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Obama Takes on Rush and the GOP
Podcast | January 26, 2009
President Obama shows his arrogance in a meeting with GOP leaders.
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Rush Limbaugh is probably the most divisive and hateful man in America - and, besides - he’s a dinosauric anachronism!
The GOP currently has some significant ‘electability’ issues and it seems to me the party (and the ideology) requires some significant remodeling and modernization. As it is, at least as far as I"m concerned, today’s ‘Libertarianism’ is entirely more preferable than today’s ‘Republicanism’ in every regard.
Limbaugh should disappear along with Bush and Cheney - never to be heard from again!
A viable political party must have a vision of America as it ought to be and sell that vision. We are for freedom, justice, opportunity, and kindness to all people.
Frank Vosler
So is Limbaugh! Dividing really seem to be the goal to most of the left! When people will allow the chipping away of the morales of this nation there will be division. The trilaterals, Bilderberg’s and others know this, they are the problem. They can not stand it if folks would get along as they do in the Christian realm ‘or’ before depravity ran ramped! When did that happen? Well it started w/they outlawed prayer in our schools, denial of God, evolution then took off and they are very dogmatic of there beliefs. Thats why God (of the Bible) is firm about even the slightest sin, The evil one knows this and is the master of deception so don’t be decieved!
Re: Post 3;
So, I take it you’re a card-carrying member of Limbaugh’s VIP Circle Jerk ??? What do you call yourselves ... Ditto Dicks?
Since you’re so concerned about “chipping away of morales” (sic) in your Post 5, what do you say about Limbaugh’s morals? That he’s a pillhead and doctor-shopper. That he’s a substance abuser. That he obtains controlled substances under false pretenses? Do you, by any chance, share those same morals and addictions?
Limbaugh is a loser and just another nickel-and-dime addict who purposely spouts and spews outlandish, controversial and often incendiary drivel - - and engages in the politics of personal destruction - - JUST for MONEY!
This entire conversation is exactly what we conservatives believe is the left leaning media taking words out of context, using the ones to make their point of people they don’t agree with. I happened to watch the question given to Rush from Hannity. The part Rush said he hoped Obama would fail on is the ideas of socialism, the rest he hoped he would prevail as president. Now does that sound like he is against the President, I think not. The press got what they wanted, a story. Maybe Obama should read the entire transcript before jumping to conclusions. I know why the left did it but Obama should be WAY above that crap.
Well TK—
As per usual—the left cannot make intelligent comments or converstation ins response to issues-
The only way they can handle thing is to get hateful and to resort to name calling—-which really makes them look smart—-
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“So, I take it you’re a card-carrying member of Limbaugh’s VIP Circle Jerk ??? What do you call yourselves ... Ditto Dicks?”
and the rest of his post is just as vile—
You should be happy that your man is in the White House—and if he that great—then he shouldn’t have to worry about Rush—-
You really need to cool off—-
Mark Twain:
“It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”
Re: Mary, Post 8;
Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, et. al. wrote the book on name-calling and the politics of personal destruction. I’m just returning the favor - and if you don’t care for the practice, then you certainly shouldn’t approve the hate that the extremist rightwing radioheads spout and spew on a continuous basis. (I feel the same about the leftwing loons - as in Daily Kos, Move On, etc.)
For me, unlike the Limbaugh Lemmings, I don’t have a “man” - in the White House - or elsewhere.
I am a solid traditionalist, a moderate, and a middle-of the road Independent ...
... and I DESPISE Limbaugh personally for HIS hatefulness and divisiveness.
In my opinion, a true patriot, whether a political leader or political commentator should seek to promote UNITY for the sake of the COMMON GOOD - NOT division for the sake of his/her personal good!
Limbaugh and the rest of the controversy-generating rightwing radiohead provocateurs simply create division, bitterness and hate ... for MONEY!
Personally, my favorite commentators are Pat Buchanan, Lou Dobbs and, to varying degrees, Bill O’Reilly. They’re capable of enunciating positions of the “loyal opposition” WITHOUT the ignorant and extremist nastiness, namecalling and personal destruction of the Limbaughs, Coulters and the like.
In my opinion, Limbaugh, in particular, is a championship jerk (and an extremely divisive influence) and his unthinking, cultish and lemming-like followers may be just as jerky.
I’m am totally sick of the no-mind, ideological partisanship of the extremists, whether the Limbaughs OR the Moores, the Coulters OR the Frankens.
Namon Singleton II, Mary
While it’s true that the mentioning of Rush by the current Impostor in Chief, the fraud who continues to fight against the release of his long-form birth certificate, was un-presidential to say the least, don’t get to protective of the likes of Rush and Hannity. It was their refusal to take Bush to task for his pro-illegal alien, and big-government policies that had resulted in the usurping of the presidency by the above-mentioned. They are not conservatives, but rather, are neo-conservatives. Neo-conservatism can be considered a political party in its own right where one does not necessarily have to be a former Democrat who switched parties to be one.
Why during the campaign did Hannity or Limbaugh barely, if at all, touch on the birth certificate issue? Why were their criticisms of Bush and the Republican majority during the past 8 years tepid, to say the least?
I take it that both of you are proud conservatives, however, I don’t want to see you misled by these buffoons.
Rush compares, contrasts, and questions everything he analyzes. His perspective on the Obama policies is a legitimate concern we all should think about. As a libertarian, I’m appalled by the idea of government controlling the private sector and the expansion of welfare. Our free market is what built this great economy, and if we insert socialism, we’ll end up destroying it. Welfare is the downfall of our country. I know too many people who work, yet cannot afford to eat as well as a career welfare recipient. Obama wants to increase the already excessive benefits of LINK(food stamp card)while not considering who is going to pay for it. If anything these free food benefits need to be cut, and if the welfare recipients complain—we tell them to budget like the rest of us! In Illinois these people average between $800 and $1,200 in benefits every month( depending on the number of kids ). How is it fair when a person who never worked a day in his/her lives can eat better than a person who works 40+ hours a week? I see this BS every day when I’m in a grocery check out line—there is no denying it! People who pull out a LINK card get to dine on shrimp and steak while I am forced to endure with ramen noodles and bologna! I want nothing to do with an ever increasing welfare state in which we have increasing generations of the worthless breeding off of our taxes! If anything we need to reverse the trend before we are out numbered by non-productive members of society. In a natural environment, non-productive individuals can’t afford to procreate, but now we ensure they can have 5 or 8 children and give them incentive to multiply their numbers. Somebody needs to stop this madness before it’s too late!
I agree 100%, JSwiss! With all that is going on Obama is practically forcing communism in our face whether we like it or not and doing it so fast that most people don’t know until it hits them. And if I was Rush Limbaugh, I would have said the same thing about Obama. His approval rating is dropping very fast with lots of people, by the day so by 2010, most people will be ready for a change from him. I can’t even watch TV anymore because every time I look up, there he is on some commercial or something you can buy with his picture on it. He is trying too hard to win over those who do not approve of him and when I see him every time I turn around it just makes me dislike him even more.
“Somebody needs to stop this madness before it’s too late!”
“... practically forcing communism in our face ...”
Sounds like a couple of statements being made in a conspiratorial group plotting a political coup or assassination!
Unbelievable.
This is the kind of hate that hostile, divisive, agitate-for-pay imbeciles like Limbaugh, Coulter and Savage generate as they go laughing all the way to the bank!
I’m not trying to be hateful, TK, I’m just telling the truth, but the truth hurts doesn’t it? We conservatives have been quiet too long and I think it is time we take a stand and take back our country! If you want your money to go to the government then that is fine with me, just don’t come crying to me when you have nothing left! I am sick and tired of the government and radical liberals pushing their agenda in my face saying I had better take it or else!
Re: Post 14;
Your comment:
“I’m not trying to be hateful, TK, I’m just telling the truth, but the truth hurts doesn’t it?”
So, would “extreme and unreasonable personal dislike” (e.g.,”...every time I turn around it just makes me dislike him even more…”) sound better to you than “hate”?
And I have no clue what “truth” you’re trying to convey. I appears to me that what you’re saying is little more than emotional, very fearful-sounding, and very unsubstantiated “opinion” (or, maybe, “propaganda”?). Of course, you are entitled to your opinion (as we all are), whatever it may be and however you may have generated it.
There are some “truths” that hurt, e.g., the death of one’s child or of one’s parents. But, certainly nothing that you’re opining is going to hurtfully ring my bell.
And, keep in mind, over the last 28 years, a supposedly “conservative” administration has been in charge for 20 of them; and there’s been a “conservative” majority in both Houses of Congress for 12 of the last 14 years ... so your comment that “We conservatives have been quiet too long” seems to be, well, just plain goofy!
And, of course, talk radio is 98.5% “conservative” (and has been so for the last fifteen years) - so - where exactly do we get proof of this “conservatives have been quiet too long” assertion ???
And, by the way, if a lot of us end up with “nothing left” - it would seem to me to be the result of Reagan’s two recessions, Bush I’s recession and tax increase, and Bush II’s recession and, now, recession-turned-depression - i.e. - “conservative”, “free market”, “unregulated” Republican economic policies since the early ‘80s brought us to this current crisis - the biggest loss of equity in the history of the world!
Also keep in mind that Reagan and Bush I almost quadrupled the national debt that existed on the last day of the Carter administration - and that Bush II has more than doubled that! On Carter’s last day, the accumulated national debt (since George Washington’s time) stood at about $850 billion. On Bush II’s last day - it was some $12 TRILLION!
(Clinton had a balanced budget for 5 of his 8 years - and added little to the national debt over the other three years - in fact, he paid it down some!)
Anyway, feel free to just stick to your dittohead propaganda if that’s what makes your boat float!
Well TK—-
When I made the remark that—the only way they can handle thing is to get hateful and to resort to name calling—I was referring to you and not to the parade of names you spouted forth—-
I read the posts on this site regarding this topic and not one post used any hateful language as you did in all of your posts—
VIP Circle Jerk
Ditto Dicks?
a pillhead and doctor-shopper.
substance abuser nickel-and-dime addict
Limbaugh Lemmings
This is the kind of hate that hostile divisive, agitate-for-pay imbeciles like Limbaugh Coulter and Savage generate as they go laughing all the way to the bank
Anyway, feel free to just stick to your dittohead propaganda if that’s what makes your boat float
And you referred to ‘MONEY’ in all of your posts in one form or another—-That sounds like envy to me
You sound like a very angry and hate filled person—-
As far as your comments about Clinton and balanced budget—the only reason that happened was because the Republicans had control and were mainly responsible for this.
During the Reagan years America into what is now widely regarded as a remarkable 15-year low-inflation, high-employment bull market (the Dow was at 800 in 1982, 8,000 today)—interrupted only mildly in the middle Bush years. These 15 yrsof prosperity were propelled by Reaganomics—lower tax rates, a long-run decline in inflation and interest rates (which also lowers tax rates), freer international trade and a strong dollar. Even with the anti-supply-side Bush and Clinton tax hikes, the top tax rate today of 40% is far below the towering 70% tax rate that disabled the economy in the 1970s.
Pizcaj
In reference to “I don’t want to see you misled by these buffoons—let me say that I am quite intelligent enough to make decisions on my own. I don’t always agree with what they say—if they say something and I have questions—I will attempt to gather more information so I can make up my own mind. I
Referring to this statement—“It was their refusal to take Bush to task for his pro-illegal alien”—I beg to differ with you on that. They constantly voiced their frustration with this issue and did take the President to task on this and other issues.
Had it not been for Conservative Talk Radio—the illegal alien proposal would have passed. It was because of them—that people got the facts and called their political representatives and told them they were against it. Had it been left up to the Liberal media—it would have passed.
Obama did a foolish thing when he took on Rush—what is going on, just in this site, is what it produced. More attention given to Rush—-
Yes—I am a Happy, Proud Conservative—I don’t always agree with what is going on and I will make sure that my representatives know it. I am not happy at the way the election turned out—but I am not angry either. I think this administration will be more fun and interesting to watch—than Clinton’s was. It’s already showing with all that has been going on in the past 14 days. He has stepped into it—more than he has wanted to.
Mary - [“Referring to this statement—“It was their refusal to take Bush to task for his pro-illegal alien”—I beg to differ with you on that. They constantly voiced their frustration with this issue and did take the President to task on this and other issues.”]
The only talk-show host that I’ve observed taking Bush to task on this and other issues was Michael Savage. It was his constant criticism of Bush’s open-border and big-government policies that has made Mr. Savage ‘persona non grada’ to the supposed ‘fair and balanced’ Fox News Network. It was Savage’s vitriolic outrage over the Dubai Ports issue that had led to it’s defeat. He also had the courage of his convictions to label Bush a fiscal Socialist, something the other ‘right-wing hosts’ would never do. Savage was also the only host to constantly point out Bush’s “Mr Rodgers” handling of the Iraq war, calling it a ‘low-level’ conflict which he concluded was to make Cheney’s friends in Halliburton richer.
Rush and Hannity did not give anywhere near the criticism that Bush deserved, and in my opinion, were way too protective of him. Instead, they chose to keep the focus of their outrage on the Democrats while playing down Bush’s role in the destruction of the GOP.
It was Rush and Hannity who helped contribute to the Republican’s losses in 2006 and 2008 because of their over-protective coverage of Bush. This turned off a lot of Conservatives such as myself.
Re: Post 16;
You’re just full to the brim of plain baloney! And, if you choose to be a slave to your ideology and your rightwing radio ideologues (hence, a “dittohead”), so be it.
And, it would seem that you have the typical, hypocritical, ideologue’s double-standard: If one who disagrees with you says something impolitely, he/she is “angry”, “hate-filled” and chasing “money” - if, on the other hand, some angry, hate-filled, money-grubbing so-called “conservative” Republican ideologue (like Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Levin, Savage - and YOU) impolitely rant and rave and spout and spew - - - it’s EXPERTISE (?!?!?!)
Dopey!
As I said - “feel free to just stick to your dittohead propaganda if that’s what makes your boat float”.
And - a personal note: I think ANYONE who has NOT developed a little anger and animosity regarding the mess created by Bush II and Cheney over these last almost-incomprehensible eight years - and who will actually DEFEND Bush II, Cheney and the GOP-controlled Congress from (‘94 to ‘06) - must be W-A-Y beyond a dittohead and a lemming. They must be totally deaf, dumb and blind - or brain dead!
I despise the two-faced, hypocritical, drug-addict Limbaugh and the divisiveness he creates (as I do Coulter for the same reason).
However, the commentators whose demeanor and message I tend to go along are Lou Dobbs and Pat Buchanan. I generally also listen to some of O’Reilly’s radio program daily - and generally watch his evening TV show. And, in fact, I often catch part of Savage’s radio program - and I conceptually go along with his “border, language and culture” mantra (although his vitriolic act is designed to generate antipathy, anger and agitation - for money - as is Limbaugh’s).
Enjoy your weekend.
TK - [“I often catch part of Savage’s radio program - and I conceptually go along with his “border, language and culture” mantra (although his vitriolic act is designed to generate antipathy, anger and agitation - for money - as is Limbaugh’s).”]
I don’t know what more you expect from Savage, TK.
As a self-described ‘Independent Conservative’, Savage had done the unthinkable during the Bush years by strongly criticizing his own Party’s president like no one else had, including Buchanan, when he saw Bush stray from his supposed Conservative positions. This is why none of the right-wing shows will have him on and pretend he doesn’t exist, including O’Reilly, Hannity, and Limbaugh, even though Savage is the 3rd most popular radio talk show host in the nation. The current blackout of Savage is even more curious considering that O’Reilly and Hannity seem to have no problem inviting the likes of Al Sharpton, Coulter, David Duke and other controversial bomb-throwers on their shows.
What is it about Michael Savage that creates such fear among the established right-wing talk show circuit?
Answer - He is a true conservative and patriot who navigates through the partisan B.S. that both major political Partys spew out, and is willing to go up against his own Party’s leadership when he sees them stray from the conservative platform from which they campaigned on and which got them elected in the first place. He has been a true watchdog on the political scene as opposed to being a political hack and has paid the price for it.
As far as making money, I feel Savage could have been making much more of it had he become another Republican Party lemming such as Rush or Hannity, however, his self-respect and love for his country embodied by his ‘borders, language, and culture’ philosophy would never allow for this.
Right, pizcaj! Savage tells the TRUTH whether it is his own party or not. I wish we could have more like him on TV instead of just the radio so people will really know what is going on in DC and all over the US. I have never gotten into politics until about July of last year and I discovered a website that really tells the truth about the people in DC who are destroying this country. Sign up for their newsletter at http://www.newswithviews.com You will really be surprised at some of the people you read about who you “thought” were conservative. I thought FOX was “fair and balanced”, but now I consider them just like the rest of the “news” channels. Have you noticed how none of those on FOX have even mentioned Obama’s citizenship issue? Hannity was the only one for the past 2 years bringing up Wright, Ayers, and others tied to Obama, but he has NEVER mentioned anything about Obama’s birth certificate issue. Don’t you think something is wrong there? You would think he or O’Reilly would be the one to mention it, but no-not a peep.
Re: Post 20;
I go along with a lot of Weiner-Savage’s concepts and positions (at least in part) - I just object to his vitriolic, namecalling, labeling, obnoxious, obsessive, extremely rude and typically over-the-top personality and manner of presentation - and his very personalized and personal (and often extremely childish) attacks on both individuals and groups.
There’s no doubt that some or all of his schtick is simply theatrics - much like that of obnoxious and foul-mouthed stand-up comedians - designed to get attention. The Shock and Schlock Jocks.
I’m about Weiner-Savage’s age, with a somewhat similar (non-Jewish) background and from a somewhat similar place - and, while growing up, if he shot his mouth off in school or in the neighborhood like he does on his radio program - he’d have had the crap kicked out of him by his peers on a weekly (or more frequent) basis!
For me, Pat Buchanan, Lou Dobbs and, sometimes, Bill O’Reilly, evidence many of the same political perspectives as Weiner-Savage - and they seem to be able to do it in a much more intelligent, enlightened and appealing way. There’s not a lot of difference between O’Reilly’s ‘Culture Warrior’ precepts and Weiner-Savage’s ‘Borders, Language and Culture’ mantra. And as officious as O’Reilly can be - he, nevertheless, presents the “traditionalist” perspective much more appealingly than does Savage.
(I believe Weiner-Savage was bumped off of TV because he was just too obnoxious and mouthy - like Limbaugh. Both of them say some outlandish crap that is just too far out there for many, many more-or-less “normal” people. I do think Weiner-Savage is a helluva lot more intelligent and more educated than Limbaugh - and if he didn’t run his nasty mouth so much and so offensively - he might have more influence among the ‘conservative constituency’ than does Limbaugh.)
TK you need to get a life other than listening to NPR and also U could actually learn to expand your intellect by listening to Rush,Kirby Anderson, Micheal Reagan, And even Hugh Ross, Morris, Jack Kelly, Bill Keoning U know, real thinking folk’s! You already shown us that your an idiot, but theirs good news! I have seen idiot’s reform which is the first sign of true wisdom!
Good Day!
Re: Post 23;
You just keep right on followin’ and parrotin’ and idolizin’ and reverin’ them “real thinking folk’s!” And, one day, when you grow up, maybe, just maybe, if you’re real good, and figure out what to do with that big, hard, growth between your ears, you’ll get “reformed”, too - - and, maybe then, you might really want to have, and maybe even deserve, an original thought of your own!?!?
(Probably not, though.)
Maybe their is some truth to evilution! I’m beginning to think that some folk have evolved from green slim! If not, they where captured by the green bubble of indoctrination w/o absolutes! TK! U might try taking omega 3’, it could help you with all that tide they used when washing your limited capacity to reason! You could start by reading the book of John, start w/ Jn 3:16 (Bible), coming to know God is the birth of wisdom, we’ll pray for you.
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Mr. Obama does not care what the Christians think! He is digging a hole, let him dig! What will be interesting is how the liberal media is beating up on each other, he he! Could it be that the reason the media wanted to get this fellow in office so that they will have plenty of material for the next four years? I doubt it, but it will be fun watching the children nit pic and whine at each other! You can bet your big toe that some how they will find a way to blame Bush and of course when that wears out there’s always the right!