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]]> By: Brian R. Sullivan http://www.aim.org/guest-column/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16631 Brian R. Sullivan Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:29:34 +0000 http://beta.aim.org/uncategorized/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16631 <p>Dear Mr. Alberti,<br /> My guess is that if you believe what you have written in your #7, you’ve never been to Russia nor the Middle East, know very little about the state of Russian armaments and know little or no history of Russian-Arab relations.<br /> It DOES matter if the Russians are much fewer, much poorer, less well-armed and far away. What are they going to threatnen us with, directly? Their nukes? Do you think the Russians would put their national survival at risk for the sake of any Arabs? Russians despise Arabs and Moslems - and the latter knows that well. Look into the history of Egyptian-Russian relations. <br /> Furthermore, the Russians have virtually no seapower projection capabilities nor strategic lift assets. The days of the Soviet Mediterranean Fleet are long gone. Any Arab knows that if there were any type of clash with us in the Middle East, the Russians would leave their beloved Arab brethren on their own. Even in the glory days of the Soviets, look how they behaved during the 1973 Middle East War. And that marked the high water mark of their influence in the region.<br /> As for the oil weapon, that could threaten Europe and Japan but hardly us. Do you realize how LITTLE oil the US imports from the Middle East? Look at the figures. We get the vast majority of our petroleum from our own fields, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Nigeria, Angola, Indonesia and, almost certainly in future, from the newly-discovered Brazilian offshore discoveries. (Despite widespread misunderstanding by the American public, beginning in the 1960s, the US government gradually began ending our reliance on Middle East oil, a process accelerated after the fall of the Shah in the late 1970s.<br /> The Arabs (who, by the way: Syria, Libya, Algeria? Most Arab states are our allies) aren’t going to risk attacking Israel, given the latter’s nukes. And even if any Arab state did get nukes, how could that threaten Israel given the Middle East mini-equivalent of mutual assured destruction? <br /> Finally, to jauntily dismiss the declining Russian population ignores the economic aspects. The Russian economy is almost certainly going to soon begin to contract in a radical manner, due to shortages of young male labor and, more recently, of capital. Yes, the Russians can import “guest workers.” But those available and willing to work for wretched Russian wages are Moslem Central Asians and Caucasians of various stripes. They are treated in a miserable, racist fashion by the Russians. They don’t have advanced skills. In many cases, these foreign workers lack the ability to read or write. Many don’t even speak Russian. There’s no way the Russians can survive as a major advanced post-industrial economy, due to demographics alone. When you add in the public health, drug and alcohol problems plaguing Russia, their prospects are even worse.<br /> Finally, look at what’s happened to the Russian economy over the last six months. We certainly face major problems in the gloabal financial meltdown. But what has happened to the Russians is far worse and they have NO money to address their own banking, credit and financial catastrophes. They can’t even borrow. (Look at the fall of the ruble vis a vis the dollar since the autumn.)  <br /> There are plenty of potential foreign problems facing the US and more to come. But to worry about Russia - except as a failed state - is to remain fixated on a Soviet threat that disappeared 20 years ago.<br /> Putin seems to have thought he could revive Russia as a great power, especially with oil revenues. He failed. He knows it. That’s why the Russians are now sounding so reasonable. Soon, they will be sounding desperate.<br /> Brian R. Sullivan </p> Dear Mr. Alberti,
My guess is that if you believe what you have written in your #7, you’ve never been to Russia nor the Middle East, know very little about the state of Russian armaments and know little or no history of Russian-Arab relations.
It DOES matter if the Russians are much fewer, much poorer, less well-armed and far away. What are they going to threatnen us with, directly? Their nukes? Do you think the Russians would put their national survival at risk for the sake of any Arabs? Russians despise Arabs and Moslems – and the latter knows that well. Look into the history of Egyptian-Russian relations.
Furthermore, the Russians have virtually no seapower projection capabilities nor strategic lift assets. The days of the Soviet Mediterranean Fleet are long gone. Any Arab knows that if there were any type of clash with us in the Middle East, the Russians would leave their beloved Arab brethren on their own. Even in the glory days of the Soviets, look how they behaved during the 1973 Middle East War. And that marked the high water mark of their influence in the region.
As for the oil weapon, that could threaten Europe and Japan but hardly us. Do you realize how LITTLE oil the US imports from the Middle East? Look at the figures. We get the vast majority of our petroleum from our own fields, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Nigeria, Angola, Indonesia and, almost certainly in future, from the newly-discovered Brazilian offshore discoveries. (Despite widespread misunderstanding by the American public, beginning in the 1960s, the US government gradually began ending our reliance on Middle East oil, a process accelerated after the fall of the Shah in the late 1970s.
The Arabs (who, by the way: Syria, Libya, Algeria? Most Arab states are our allies) aren’t going to risk attacking Israel, given the latter’s nukes. And even if any Arab state did get nukes, how could that threaten Israel given the Middle East mini-equivalent of mutual assured destruction?
Finally, to jauntily dismiss the declining Russian population ignores the economic aspects. The Russian economy is almost certainly going to soon begin to contract in a radical manner, due to shortages of young male labor and, more recently, of capital. Yes, the Russians can import “guest workers.” But those available and willing to work for wretched Russian wages are Moslem Central Asians and Caucasians of various stripes. They are treated in a miserable, racist fashion by the Russians. They don’t have advanced skills. In many cases, these foreign workers lack the ability to read or write. Many don’t even speak Russian. There’s no way the Russians can survive as a major advanced post-industrial economy, due to demographics alone. When you add in the public health, drug and alcohol problems plaguing Russia, their prospects are even worse.
Finally, look at what’s happened to the Russian economy over the last six months. We certainly face major problems in the gloabal financial meltdown. But what has happened to the Russians is far worse and they have NO money to address their own banking, credit and financial catastrophes. They can’t even borrow. (Look at the fall of the ruble vis a vis the dollar since the autumn.) 
There are plenty of potential foreign problems facing the US and more to come. But to worry about Russia – except as a failed state – is to remain fixated on a Soviet threat that disappeared 20 years ago.
Putin seems to have thought he could revive Russia as a great power, especially with oil revenues. He failed. He knows it. That’s why the Russians are now sounding so reasonable. Soon, they will be sounding desperate.
Brian R. Sullivan

]]> By: Jock Williams http://www.aim.org/guest-column/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16630 Jock Williams Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:15:52 +0000 http://beta.aim.org/uncategorized/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16630 <p>So as I see it _ most if not all of you believe that it would behoove us (all of us!) to become better friends of the Russkis!</p> <p>What a revelation!</p> <p>It would also have been better in about 1945/1946 -but when we really blew it was then!</p> <p>Not that we are in any way natural friends -communism and captitalism are natural enemies -but if we could just have co -operated -we could each have saved ourselves gazillions of dollars ( is that even more than trillions?) -and the world would be at least as good today as it is -and I personally believe -BETTER!</p> <p>We just have to open our minds.</p> <p>As a professional soldier (airman too!) from 1960 -1996 I got to meet many of the former enemies/now friends -and found them all worthy allies.</p> <p>If our political masters would do so too -in a spirit of openness -we would all be a lot better off!</p> <p>Jock Williams </p> So as I see it _ most if not all of you believe that it would behoove us (all of us!) to become better friends of the Russkis!

What a revelation!

It would also have been better in about 1945/1946 -but when we really blew it was then!

Not that we are in any way natural friends -communism and captitalism are natural enemies -but if we could just have co -operated -we could each have saved ourselves gazillions of dollars ( is that even more than trillions?) -and the world would be at least as good today as it is -and I personally believe -BETTER!

We just have to open our minds.

As a professional soldier (airman too!) from 1960 -1996 I got to meet many of the former enemies/now friends -and found them all worthy allies.

If our political masters would do so too -in a spirit of openness -we would all be a lot better off!

Jock Williams

]]> By: TK http://www.aim.org/guest-column/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16629 TK Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:00:54 +0000 http://beta.aim.org/uncategorized/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16629 <p>Re: Post 7;</p> <p>Generally, I would agree with much of Sullivan’s “demographic profile” of the Russians - - and I would also agree with his statement ... “The Russians would still make formidable opponents” - - and I would tend to agree with your description of how they might successfully “oppose” us.  On a bad day, I think they could very well align themselves with other oil-producing nations and various Arab interests to make life difficult for the U.S.</p> <p>As I said, I feel Clinton and Bush II blew it by not developing a closer and more successful/effective relationship with Russia. </p> Re: Post 7;

Generally, I would agree with much of Sullivan’s “demographic profile” of the Russians – - and I would also agree with his statement … “The Russians would still make formidable opponents” – - and I would tend to agree with your description of how they might successfully “oppose” us.  On a bad day, I think they could very well align themselves with other oil-producing nations and various Arab interests to make life difficult for the U.S.

As I said, I feel Clinton and Bush II blew it by not developing a closer and more successful/effective relationship with Russia.

]]> By: jeff alberti http://www.aim.org/guest-column/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16628 jeff alberti Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:13:44 +0000 http://beta.aim.org/uncategorized/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16628 <p>Doesn’t anyone understand that Russia does not have to be close bye or have more people, more land or a better armed forces than we do. To cause real problems for us they can join forces with an Arab League of Nations take over most of the worlds oil out put and surround and try to attack our closest friends in the middle east Israel. Actually they or already in with Iran warning the U.S. not to attack Iran and its nuclear sites.  The stage is set for the biggest military action the world has ever seen,  believe it it is coming. </p> Doesn’t anyone understand that Russia does not have to be close bye or have more people, more land or a better armed forces than we do. To cause real problems for us they can join forces with an Arab League of Nations take over most of the worlds oil out put and surround and try to attack our closest friends in the middle east Israel. Actually they or already in with Iran warning the U.S. not to attack Iran and its nuclear sites.  The stage is set for the biggest military action the world has ever seen,  believe it it is coming.

]]> By: Brian R. Sullivan http://www.aim.org/guest-column/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16627 Brian R. Sullivan Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:13:41 +0000 http://beta.aim.org/uncategorized/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16627 <p>There is no doubt that Russians make magnificent soldiers. It would not be in our nor their interest to fight each other. But Russia is very unlikely to pose the threat in future that it has in the past. The main reason is demographics.</p> <p>In 1941, just prior to the German invasion, the USSR controlled about 180 million people (not all Russians, of course). At that time, the US population numbered about 130 million. Today, the US has a population of about 310 million, Russia has a population of about 145 million. By 2050, the US will probably be at about 400 million, while Russia will have declined to some 100 million. What happened?</p> <p>First of all, with the break-up of the USSR, the population under Russian rule fell significantly. More specifically, the 60 million or so Belarussians and Ukrainians both gained independence. That subtracted from Russian control about 30% of the Soviet Union’s Slavic population. In addition, the former Soviet satellites and even former members of the USSR have joined the EU and NATO. That has subtracted the Baltic Republics, Poland, E. Germany, the Czech and Slovak Republics, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania from the Russian sphere and added them to the West. Similar moves by Albania, the former Yugoslav republics, Ukraine, Georgia and Mongolia have brought those states into or close to the West. This has cost the Russians another 100 million or so allies.</p> <p>But even more important, Russian public health was already deteriorating and it has gotten even worse since. Alcoholism and chain smoking is rampant in Russia. This leads to deadly heart and artery diseases. The average male doesn’t even reach the age of 60. This is an even lower life expectancy than that of Pakistanti or Bangladeshi men.</p> <p>Abortion remains the usual form of birth control, due to ignorance and lack of access to (and habitual refusal to use) birth control pills or condoms. After several abortions, many young Russian women are no longer able to conceive.</p> <p>The serious shortage of housing makes it difficult for young couples to find homes of their own. Many live with paretns and in-laws in very crowded quarters. That discourages pregnancies. </p> <p>Drunkeness, lack of safety measures, bad policing and poorly maintained roads and vehicles leads to a very high rate of deadly industrial and driving accidents. Poor sanitation, including polluted water encourages infections and disease. Bad medical care, inadequate hospitals and out-of-date medical equipment cause many Russians to die who would not under far better conditions in the West. </p> <p>The economy, briefly buoyed by high oil prices, is collapsing. That also discourages births and increases the prevalence of the bad living conditions listed above. </p> <p>The Russians would still make formidable opponents. But the recent poor showing of their forces in the Caucasus and the outmoded equipment they fielded gives strong evidence that they are much weaker militarily than they were previously. </p> There is no doubt that Russians make magnificent soldiers. It would not be in our nor their interest to fight each other. But Russia is very unlikely to pose the threat in future that it has in the past. The main reason is demographics.

In 1941, just prior to the German invasion, the USSR controlled about 180 million people (not all Russians, of course). At that time, the US population numbered about 130 million. Today, the US has a population of about 310 million, Russia has a population of about 145 million. By 2050, the US will probably be at about 400 million, while Russia will have declined to some 100 million. What happened?

First of all, with the break-up of the USSR, the population under Russian rule fell significantly. More specifically, the 60 million or so Belarussians and Ukrainians both gained independence. That subtracted from Russian control about 30% of the Soviet Union’s Slavic population. In addition, the former Soviet satellites and even former members of the USSR have joined the EU and NATO. That has subtracted the Baltic Republics, Poland, E. Germany, the Czech and Slovak Republics, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania from the Russian sphere and added them to the West. Similar moves by Albania, the former Yugoslav republics, Ukraine, Georgia and Mongolia have brought those states into or close to the West. This has cost the Russians another 100 million or so allies.

But even more important, Russian public health was already deteriorating and it has gotten even worse since. Alcoholism and chain smoking is rampant in Russia. This leads to deadly heart and artery diseases. The average male doesn’t even reach the age of 60. This is an even lower life expectancy than that of Pakistanti or Bangladeshi men.

Abortion remains the usual form of birth control, due to ignorance and lack of access to (and habitual refusal to use) birth control pills or condoms. After several abortions, many young Russian women are no longer able to conceive.

The serious shortage of housing makes it difficult for young couples to find homes of their own. Many live with paretns and in-laws in very crowded quarters. That discourages pregnancies.

Drunkeness, lack of safety measures, bad policing and poorly maintained roads and vehicles leads to a very high rate of deadly industrial and driving accidents. Poor sanitation, including polluted water encourages infections and disease. Bad medical care, inadequate hospitals and out-of-date medical equipment cause many Russians to die who would not under far better conditions in the West.

The economy, briefly buoyed by high oil prices, is collapsing. That also discourages births and increases the prevalence of the bad living conditions listed above.

The Russians would still make formidable opponents. But the recent poor showing of their forces in the Caucasus and the outmoded equipment they fielded gives strong evidence that they are much weaker militarily than they were previously.

]]> By: TK http://www.aim.org/guest-column/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16626 TK Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:00:50 +0000 http://beta.aim.org/uncategorized/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16626 <p>Re: Post 4;</p> <p>I, too, believe Russia could have been (could still be?) one of our best (if not ‘the’ best) allies possible - and I really believe the Clinton and Bush II administrations blew it by not trying to cement a real solid working relationship with Russia.</p> <p>Personally, I feel Russia has almost limitless natural resources that we could use - - and we have the manufacturing and production expertise and capability that they could use.  Furthermore - I do believe Russia is capable of being everyone’s ‘worst nightmare’ - so, better an ally than an enemy! </p> Re: Post 4;

I, too, believe Russia could have been (could still be?) one of our best (if not ‘the’ best) allies possible – and I really believe the Clinton and Bush II administrations blew it by not trying to cement a real solid working relationship with Russia.

Personally, I feel Russia has almost limitless natural resources that we could use – - and we have the manufacturing and production expertise and capability that they could use.  Furthermore – I do believe Russia is capable of being everyone’s ‘worst nightmare’ – so, better an ally than an enemy!

]]> By: Jock Williams http://www.aim.org/guest-column/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16625 Jock Williams Tue, 03 Mar 2009 01:07:31 +0000 http://beta.aim.org/uncategorized/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16625 <p>These countries (or their leaders) never look that far ahead. That pretty much explains why they are “third world countries”. First (and probably second) world world countries have the imagination to realize that the US could vapourize them if it felt so inclined.</p> <p>Failure to draw this conclusion usually (but not always) results from religious fanaticism -or illiteracy. Venezuela has only the latter whereas Iran suffers from both. Russia just doesn’t “get it” -and hasn’t for about 60 years. Too bad!  They would make magnificent allies and friends.</p> <p>As a professional soldier during the “Cold War” I was just delighted that the Germans were finally on our side. My family had fought them for 2 generations -and barely won! They were good war makers -as are the Russians. Let us try to avoid testing their mettle!</p> <p>I also respected the Russians -and their ability to outgun us by a factor of (usually) 3 to 1 or worse.</p> <p>For those not professional soldiers reading this -I will point out that 3 to 1 is exactly the ratio required to pretty much guarantee success in the attack.</p> <p>Do not discount the newly awakended Russia. They are a real threat -or as I said an excellent potential ally. Let us not choose the wrong option!</p> <p>Jock Williams </p> These countries (or their leaders) never look that far ahead. That pretty much explains why they are “third world countries”. First (and probably second) world world countries have the imagination to realize that the US could vapourize them if it felt so inclined.

Failure to draw this conclusion usually (but not always) results from religious fanaticism -or illiteracy. Venezuela has only the latter whereas Iran suffers from both. Russia just doesn’t “get it” -and hasn’t for about 60 years. Too bad!  They would make magnificent allies and friends.

As a professional soldier during the “Cold War” I was just delighted that the Germans were finally on our side. My family had fought them for 2 generations -and barely won! They were good war makers -as are the Russians. Let us try to avoid testing their mettle!

I also respected the Russians -and their ability to outgun us by a factor of (usually) 3 to 1 or worse.

For those not professional soldiers reading this -I will point out that 3 to 1 is exactly the ratio required to pretty much guarantee success in the attack.

Do not discount the newly awakended Russia. They are a real threat -or as I said an excellent potential ally. Let us not choose the wrong option!

Jock Williams

]]> By: TK http://www.aim.org/guest-column/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16624 TK Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:03:36 +0000 http://beta.aim.org/uncategorized/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16624 <p>Russia will always be jockeying around for “influence” and, by its nature, will, as someone else said here, always be “stirring the pot” just to see if something might result that it might benefit from.</p> <p>But - what never seems to make much sense: How does a country like Iran (or, Venezuela, or even North Korea, for that matter) rationalize that it might use some form of nuclear armament against the U.S. (or against a significant American ally) - - without suffering an immediate retaliation by the U.S. that could wipe IT completely off the map ??? </p> Russia will always be jockeying around for “influence” and, by its nature, will, as someone else said here, always be “stirring the pot” just to see if something might result that it might benefit from.

But – what never seems to make much sense: How does a country like Iran (or, Venezuela, or even North Korea, for that matter) rationalize that it might use some form of nuclear armament against the U.S. (or against a significant American ally) – - without suffering an immediate retaliation by the U.S. that could wipe IT completely off the map ???

]]> By: Jock Williams http://www.aim.org/guest-column/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16623 Jock Williams Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:56:23 +0000 http://beta.aim.org/uncategorized/chavez-ahmadinejad-and-the-next-missile-crisis/#comment-16623 <p>Indeed it is happening again at both the north and south ends of the continent!</p> <p>Just last week when President Obama was visiting in Ottawa it was announced that Russian “Bear” bombers were skirting the north edge of Canadian arctic airspace -as they did for 30 or so years on our east and west coasts during the “Cold War”.</p> <p>They were, of course, met by Canadian F18s, as they would have been by American F15s had they been in or near Alaskan airspace.</p> <p>They are really no problem or immediate threat -except that they demonstrate that Russia is “at it again.”</p> <p>Iran has no common cause with Venezuala -as Russia in truth has no common cause with either Venezuala or Iran -but Russia will continue to “stir the pot”. Russia has a vested interested in worldwide political disturbance. “Twas ever thus!”</p> <p>Look for the same sort of thing in Gaza.</p> <p>Jock Williams </p> Indeed it is happening again at both the north and south ends of the continent!

Just last week when President Obama was visiting in Ottawa it was announced that Russian “Bear” bombers were skirting the north edge of Canadian arctic airspace -as they did for 30 or so years on our east and west coasts during the “Cold War”.

They were, of course, met by Canadian F18s, as they would have been by American F15s had they been in or near Alaskan airspace.

They are really no problem or immediate threat -except that they demonstrate that Russia is “at it again.”

Iran has no common cause with Venezuala -as Russia in truth has no common cause with either Venezuala or Iran -but Russia will continue to “stir the pot”. Russia has a vested interested in worldwide political disturbance. “Twas ever thus!”

Look for the same sort of thing in Gaza.

Jock Williams

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