Never underestimate the Clinton’s…and nothing is over till it is over…she is waiting in the wings, not just for SOS..and for anyone out there who thinks conservitive is still alive is dreaming. One big bird with evil on their minds, putting together their dictatorship for the world and our freedom gone, liberity gone and along with that property, jobs and familes..How else could they rule but to take it all away. and the people just don’t want to believe anyone can still be that evil. at least an American. Now we hear how mad some are about it all, and still do nothing. For example they are real mad at the cuts on police force and borders..yet the gov and state is hiring the drug cartels who bring in the drugs to waste all America with the drugs to dumb them down. If everyone was so concerned of the violence and disease, then get off their duff and close the borders. it is not the mexican border either, it is the canadian border too and hey, how about the ships coming into ports now owned by Islam. And if the kids don’t find the gangs and drugs they get fed drugs in our schools by government and the people say OK..Here we have every disease coming back big time, more people adicted to drugs, more rapes, home invasions more gays, more false propets, more dictatorship governments and the people still say ok..It was the same thing in Iraq, had we hit them as we did, and then let the military on the borders to keep more out that is sent by Saudi and Iran and the rest of them to kill our troops and anyone in site and then weed out the jihad, it would be peaceful. and how about that war to be paid by Iraqi oil? what a joke. No the big boys want socialim world wide ruled with Islam and all of us peons bowing while the rich rule the poor and their plan to destroy 95% of the population. One thing is for sure they best wake up to who they voted in and get active. It is now or never. How they cannot see that this bailout like in the 1930’s is nothing but a scam..to finish off the US power so the shift can move to Rome. and just like ole Hitler , moving all regiongs together as one in the name of unity and diversity??? just like G-d warned would happen just before HE comes to destroy them all…Oh thats right, most don’t believe in scripture or G-d, they think they are little gods. must mean the new age is here ran by satan..and it sounds so goodddddddd…How sad. We all have a choice who we serve,,G-d or Sin..which is it. Do you all think its ok to be in rebellion of Almighty G-d?? who knows the count of every hair on your head who sees the sparrow who falls and warns us HE is coming back to destroy all His enemies and the enemies of Israel and those who eat swine..Isaiah the last two chapters..G-d never does anything least He tell us..we are commanded to know prophecy which has never been wrong..HE is Coming…and NO ONE CAN SIT ON THE FENCE..HE said so…you are for HIM or against HIM.

I agree to a point here, we will have to make a choice or have it made for us.

When things began to come at the church, no prayers in school (although that’s a kind of crock), no nativity, no recognition of Christ as the reason for the Christmas season, etc., we didn’t go to God.  We ran to the politicians.  We trusted politicians rather than God. We gave them money, power, and blind faith.

The election of President Bush II was a prime example of blind loyalty to politics.  The Christians, the churches, got in bed with politicians as never before.

You lay down with dogs you get fleas –

Well, we are loaded with fleas and it is very hard to get rid of them.  It’s painful and it requires constant vigilance to keep them away.

On the other hand, Condoleeza Rice is an example of the Secretary of State who diligently takes orders from the boss, keeps quiet, and avoids the limelight.  And – what have she and her boss accomplished?  Nothing.

There are times, places and circumstances where the straw stirring the drink can be a good thing!

Oh, I think someone is telling, and has always told,  the Clintons what to do – it just isn’t Obama – or the American people.

Oh, I think Ms. Rice and Pres Bush have accomplished a lot – none of it good.

Ms. Rice was put there by the oil companies and she evidently has pleased them.

Well, The New World Order as envisioned by the 1890’s Robber Barons envisioned a world controlled wholly by the world’s super-rich financiers and corporatists – with the workingmen being, in essence, “slaves” to their corporate masters – so, I suppose it’s not a big stretch to speculate that since the advent of free market-free trade-deregulate-trickle down days of the early 1980’s – ALL our top echelon politicians (including Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush II) have, in fact, been “bought into” the concept and have, in turn, sacrificed American independence to the rule of “Globalized Big Business” (???)

If all of this is so, there’s no doubt now that the Clintons (at least Bill, for sure) are part of the “inner circle” (as are the Bushes and many other big names in American politics and economics).  And, if true, we’re all screwed!

TK,

No, it isn’t a stretch at all.

It goes back farther than Reagan though – probably farther than Nixon, but at least that far.

Every administration has pushed that agenda along.  It hasn’t mattered what party, what party was the ‘majority’ or ‘minority’, the agenda has rolled along.

I’m thinking because it is coming close to the achievement now, the agenda is now visible to some, but I think each president helped it along, as did each and every congressperson.  Even those who might not agree, didn’t let the country know what was going on.

I don’t think we have free market, or deregulated market.  I’m thinking it is regulated a lot.  Our trade agreements are not free market – they are very regulated in favor of corporations.  They are very regulated to make corporations stronger. 

Each new NAFTA type deal we make, puts more and more indigenous people out of work.  We flood the country with our highly subsidize products, mostly from big corporate agribusiness, and the little people can either give up or starve.

Our government has allowed big corporations, like Monsanto, to get patents on indigenous plants around the world.

Large corporations have bought up water rights from despotic rulers and poor people now have to pay for water from their own wells.  I would not be surprised to find that has already happened in this country.

America needed to brought to is knees before the globalization came into being.  That was accomplished in many ways.

Oursourcing jobs – the government helped companies move offshore.  Pres. Bush was asking for money for companies ‘who operated offshore so they could be more competitive in the world market’.

Our insane immigration system.  The new rules make decades ago that demanded a certain percentage be from third world countries, poor and minorities, and it has filled this country with people with no skills. 

Our illegal immigration problem is costing taxpayers huge amounts of money – not only in taxes for their upkeep, but in auto insurance premiums, it is keeping our healthcare costs up, and our education system, not very good at any time, is hurting even worse, our infrastructure is suffering.

This has brought the wage scale down, for Americans.

Then let’s import educated workers.  We have been hearing for years that we have a shortage of RN’s.  How long does it take to become a Registered Nurse?  We have had time, if the government would have helped and encouraged it, to have educated our own nurses.  But no, we are now importing them.  One of Jimmy Carter’s sons is working with a program that does just that.

How about teachers?  It takes 4 year.  I saw an article abouit 5/6 years ago.  A very affluent school district in another state was solving some of it’s financial problems by importing teachers from India.  They were forcing retirement of those eligible for retirement.  They were forcing/buying out those eligible for early retirement and importing teachers from India.

It was a plan and we now see it coming together.

AIM is not a news source – it is an opinion site.

Of course, neither are most newspapers or networks either.

all this sounds frighting, at 69 yrs, what can i do to help america survive the global assholes that are in the u.n.also is there any way that th
“clinton con atrists hill & bill can be put out to pasture. both are equally dangerous to the american freedoms and sovereignty

Bob, I’m 67, and I don’t have a clue.

I’m not sure we haven’t gone too far to be able to pull out.

The main problem, however, is to get people to wake up and understand this.

We just had a national election, a heated election, people were involved.  I doubt more than 200 people had this in mind when they tried to decide how to vote – not that it would make a difference, but it just isn’t on anyone’s mind.

People are too hooked on TV, buying things, and supporting their party to realize there really are no parties – it’s all one big gang.

‘I could have freed more if they had only known they were slaves.’ 

I think that is the problem in a nutshell.

There are things we can do, but when you suggest it, the eyes start glazing over.  Not many want to actually DO anything.

Our Constitution is being ignored, chipped away, and changed without due process these days.  Our sovereignty is being blurred with our trade deals, open borders, illegal immigration.  Citizenship means little these days. 

On another thread someone mentioned that Alan Keyes is suing to force Obama to produce proof he is actually an American born citizen.  I wondered how many would say, ‘What difference does it make?’  There were quite a few who thought it made no difference if he was legally, constitutionally, eligible to be President.

That’s the problem.

“clinton con atrists hill & bill can be put out to pasture. both are equally dangerous to the american freedoms and sovereignty”

you get the prize for preposterous hyperbole of the day, maybe the year! Sheesh!

I agree with Bob, he just didn’t go far enough,  I would add all politicians – no matter what jersey they wear.

We need to clean house and start over.

Ladytexas, Post 6;

I guess I can recall the lifting of some protective tariffs on certain non-essential imported products going back to some point in the ‘70s.  But, in terms of the “free market” and “open trade”, and the de-regulation thereof, it occurred to me immediately, even way back then, that this could be the eventual kiss of death to U.S. manufacturing – and the wages (and even the jobs) of American production workers – and, consequently, also the kiss of death of the entire American economy!

From that day – some 35 or more years ago – I have NEVER heard one of the fast-talking, pseudo-expert, smarter-than-thou free-market/open trade fundamentalists EVER explain (or even acknowledge) the effect of these policies on the American wage-earner and American manufacturing!!!

It seemed as obvious back then as it has proven to be today that – THERE IS NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER to the American worker in engaging in unregulated free trade based on free markets – UNLESS the American worker was willing to work for the same wages paid in Malaysia, Indonesia, China, Mexico, at al – some $2 per day!!!

These unregulated free market wackos, over 35 years, have had only one “rationalization” for their destructive variety of economics – i.e. – ”  Of course, it means cheaper prices for all goods for all Americans”!  How much of even these “cheaper goods” can an American worker buy if he’s either chronically unemployed or willing to work for “Third World” wages of $2 per day ???

The only people who have benefited from this sham are the fatcat “importers” and “distributors” of the foreign-made junk products – and the peasants in the Third World countries that the retail fatcats import from – because those so-called “workers” gone from $0 per day to $2 per day in income!

I’ll never understand why semi-skilled and skilled blue-collar American production workers and unions didn’t seriously rebel against the concept from Day 1 !!!

Apparently, the average American doesn’t pay too much attention to things more significant than Britney Spears problems and who’s been kicked off of American Idol.

Pretty pathetic for what I once thought was “The smartest and most capable nation in the world.”

The Malaysians, Indonesians, Chinese and Mexicans must be laughing their asses off at “those stupid Yankees”.

TK,

You summed it up pretty well.

The idea was we would raise, or equal the standard of living of the world.  It seems no one pointed out in order to equal the standard of living, we would have to seriously bring ours down.

I’m not sure we have free trade.  I think we have ‘managed’ trade – managed for the good of big corporations.

You bet the rest of the world is laughing at us.

I’m sure the rest of the world thinks we are nuts.  Not only do we allow our government to export our jobs, we also allow them to import workers to replace us, and leave the border open for anyone else who wishes to come in.  Not only do they let them come in, then then force us to provide them with the basic necessitities so they can then send tons of money back to their homeland.

They must have looked at our two candidates and wondered at a country like ours seeming to have no better choices than the two we got stuck with.

Then they watched while our media and our people spent days on end discussing Gov. Palin’s family, and her wardrobe.  We have so many problems in this country, and the media was able to distract us like that. 

They should be laughing.  If it weren’t so very tragic, it would be hilarious.

You know it is true that many things are cheaper to purchase than they were.  They are also cheaply made.  The quality is such that things must be bought over and over again. It isn’t cheaper in the long run – it is just cheap.

It robs American families of their dollars, chokes our landfills, kills our pets and sickens our children.

I read once that some foreign country, Russia, I think, had once done an experiment using fluoride in thought control. Someone once said that fluoride was very close, in composition, to one of the mood altering drugs.  Then there is the theory that aspartame was something the military used in interrogations to control memory.

I’m beginning to wonder—————-

Please rest assured.  All is under control.  George Soros is running the ship, and he pulls all the strings now.  It took him two try’s, but this time he finally pulled the wool over the American people’s eyes.  Obama, he’s just a front man.  Axelrod and Emanual will be the implementers and the #### will begin to hit the fan when all the judges are appointed.  They will do all the dirty work of moving the nation to full blown Socialism while “The One” remains above it all and gives stirring speeches as the AMerican public chants his name.  Comrade Soros will not let things get out of control.

You are probably on to something, although I think it is bigger than just one man and worse than socialism.

I think it is the outright dissolution of nationhoods and the implementation of the world government, run by corporations.

Since the night I saw Obama make his debut speech, I realized he would be president.  I wondered exactly what his part in the ongoing agenda would be.

I’m not clear yet, and I may change my thinking, but right now I think it may have to do with the idea that the Constitution’s eligibility requirements for President are just not important.

Have you heard the number of people who are saying, ‘it doesn’t matter’, or ‘the people have spoken’, etc. etc.

After this President, it may be possible for anyone, from anywhere who has the money, and the backing of the media to come to this country, run for President and take it over.

Think about it -

john post 13-

yeah, there oughtta be a law against those billionaire socialists!

what a dimbulb.