
Phil Singer who served as Hillary Clinton’s deputy communications director during the 2008 presidential campaign wrote in his blog that MSNBC Hardball host Chris Matthews should not be on the air if he is considering a run for the U.S. Senate in 2010. Here are his reasons.
Singer admits he is not a big fan of Matthews and has every right to run for a Senate seat, but not at the risck of MSNBC’s credibility.

I have a problem with Chris Matthews running for any political office. What are his qualifications, except his disdain for any conservative ideas or Republicans and shrill criticism of the Republican Party as a whole, based on scurilous innuendo and half truths. His off the wall comments on “Hard Ball” should embarrass any political party. Of all the so-called “major media” figures, he has done and said more embarrassing things on a consistent basis. He has no credibilty, and his only success was that he played shamelessly to the far left. Any poltical position for which he runs is a sure loss for him. He is nothing but someone who likes to hear himself talk and make wild statements.

Both of you are correct, but who would have thought Al Franken would even had a snowballs chance in hell, now there is a recount…which should have never happened until mysterious vote for him began appearing out of nowhere.
Glenn Beck got out of there and will have a Fox News show beginning in January, if we can get Joe out safely to Fox, they should shut down the entire station. Matthews is as bad as Oblermann.
In my opinion both Matthews and Oblermann should be tried for treason. Those guys are left of Stalin.

Somehow Franken will pull this off I’m afraid! if he does somehow scrape up enough yea’s we better take a closer look! Kieth Oblermann makes me want to spew chloropicrin!

If Matthews was actually a journalist it would make a difference.
He changed his status to…well, to something else entirely by stating that it is his responsibility to see that this presidency succeeds.
I object much more strongly to his being called a journalist than I do him being employed as a cheerleader and P.R. flack for Obama while he runs for office.

The same can be said for the so called servants in the House and Senate! People like Schummer, Rangel and that audacious repugnat Weasel in Minnesota! When are we going to say that it’s enough already and put these cons out on the street where they can beg for money, not steal! We all need to acknowledge that this national bailout is really do to some activities that took place back in the mid to late 90’s. The Frank’s, Dodd’s and all of the above are the basic culprits! Now we have half of those in our nation that somehow feel that these thieving appeasers are going to make it all OK?! Let alone the life issue’s that the left seem to oppose. America’s only hope is in the God that this nation was founded upon. God Bless!

Last month, there was a huge RNC meeting, it was meant to get out the old and out of touch Republicans, and bring in new talent up to even running the new Republicans against their own who are now in office. Something that should have been done in 1998 or sooner, sadly many of the good ones have retired or left office due to what the Repubs did when they had control of the House and Senate, spend like Democrats, growing government, and as much pork as the Dems. I cannot even believe they were re-elected.
It is time to clean out the House and Senate of both parties, in time all 100 Members of the Senate, and all 435 Members of the Congress should go though independent investigations one by one, and let the chips fall where they may. That is exactly what the RNC is doing now to clean their houses, and will be subjected to investigations.

The center to the left republicans RINO’s (republican in name only) were planted by the left one score back last century! The left media boasted about this back in the 90’s (knowing that most would not remember) and really are responsible (along w/the leftist media) for the pangs that the conservative party is suffering today! It’s very annoying of the the Rep. party spending. Yes maybe a grass roots house cleaning is just what is needed. There is w/o a doubt an evil movement in the conservative party to make it more liberal. Conservatives need to rebuke these lily livered carpet bagging slim dogs and expose them, call them out and give them a thrashing! If we cower now we’ll never rebound!
What is wrong with praising the Lord and passing the ammo? Absolutely nothing! If they (left) get there way concerning the so called fairness doctrine that might be all thats left! So stock up on groceries and rebel the move, PRAY first! And no I’m not a loon, that all comes from the left to intimidate the right! Don’t fall for that! It’s another big lie from the left! So spread the Good News of our Savior!Amen?!

“Singer admits he is not a big fan of Matthews and has every right to run for a Senate seat, but not at the risck of MSNBC’s credibility.”
MSNBC has credibility? That’s a laugh!

Matthews has the same opportunity to run for the Senate representing Pennsylvania as does anyone else in Pennsylvania - and whether or not he is qualified for the office, whether or not his political philosophy is acceptable, and whether or not he is liked or approved by his constituents - is SINGULARLY the business ONLY of the voters of Pennsylvania. So, the opinion of people from other states is irrelevant.
However, if there’s any real seriousness on his part to actually run - then he should obviously resign from his reporting and punditry position at MSNBC. And, if he runs, he shouldn’t get any personal airtime on MSNBC during his campaign - and neither should MSNBC become his personal “bully pulpit” if he wins.
In terms of his performance on his program at MSNBC and any obvious political bias or favoritism he might be perceived to have - - he is certainly NO WORSE than Sean Hannity is on his two programs on Fox News. So, if there are those who feel Matthews should be dumped by MSNBC because of his perceived political bias or favoritism - I say it’s fine to take that position - IF you also agree that Hannity should be dumped by Fox for EXACTLY the very same reason(s).

TK, can we be real here? You are equating Chris Matthews, who is part of the giant mainstream media, made up of the entire group of big 3 news plus all the cable, most of the country’s newspapers and news magazines, all of whom it is not even argued now were as a group in the pocket of Barrack Obama right from the word go and comparing him to Sean Hannity, who among the conservative talk show hosts group is in itself an extremely limited number of outlets. Chris Matthews, like his compatriots in the MSM, has not only been in the pocket of the Democrats blatantly but used every occasion to ridicule the Republicans, while feigning giving equal time to both sides. The news programs are not supposed to favor one side or the other, they’re supposed to simply report the news. For you to call Matthews’ performance through the campaign on MSNBC as only “perceived favoritism” shows you’re solidily in the camp of the MSM. For you to compare Hannity as equal to the MSM in abilty to reach and influence an audience shows again you are in the camp of the MSM.

Charlie Seng,
TK does not know how to be real! He follows me and a few others throughout AIM just to give us on the “RIGHT” and a REAL NEWS site a hard time, he is nothing more than a leach on this site. He is nothing but a homunculus.
A few months ago, he actually agreed with a guy who said the MSM was pro republican. Write Republican on a rock, and he will be out of our hair while arguing with it…
I believe a Fairness Doctrine which includes the MSM and Internet would drive Liberals insane.

TK, aka Brian R. Sullivan
Way to go, one of your other aliases closed the comments on the AIM link:
http://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/is-rangel-a-victim-of-the-liberal-media
Title: Is Rangel A Victim of the Liberal Media?
Although I did get to read you comment by one of many aliases, Brian R. Sullivan…this is the third article you have had comments stopped, it must be the complaints against the ID: Brian R. Sullivan!
You have already run Dave (and who knows who else) off the site, just please leave so we may have our discussions amongst ourselves without the hate speech.
That or donate to this site as I did to support it and keep it going.
Thank you

By the way,(From your other post) I get my news about what the NYT prints from a site called Times Watch, and Media Research Center. If I were to be given a copy of the Times, I would just put it in the recycle bin.

Wesley, Thanks, I get that and also, I get Best of the Web Today and the Editorials from the Wall Street Journal. As you have said, getting anything from straight from the NYT is just asking for madness and lies.
Charlie

Thanks Charlie,
You are 100% correct, as for Newspapers the WSJ is the only one I subscribe to now.
Years ago here in Dallas, we had the Dallas Morning News (a right leaning paper) was bought out by the leftist Dallas Times Herald, in Houston, the right leaning newspaper was The Houston Post, it too was bought out by an extreme left Houston Chronicle.
It is a trend which has occurred in many States, sadly.

Here in the Kc Missouri area the far lefts are dominate like the KC Star (RED STAR), Sun Times etc!
Our saving grace (least for now) is Bott radio and maybe another 1 or 2 that seems to lean in the right direction, other than that as the radio media goes thats it! But!! Thank GOD for the inter net with a great outlet like Accuracy In The Media, WND, Times Tracker, OneNewsNow etc (all the sites that the liberals say are evil) for now! If the libs get their way with the so called fairness doctrine, wouldn’t it backfire (w/o giving them - left - ideas!) on them in ways that they have not for seen? This is not the mid to late 40’s! When folks yearn for the truth they will go to great lengths! They won’t put us (conservatives) back into another archaic period! Say no to the unfairness indoctrination!

Charlie Seng, Post 12;
Chris Matthews has NEVER been presented or represented by NBC or MSNBC as a “newsman”. His on-air role has ALWAYS been one of a “commentator” or “analyst”.
Your comment:
“Chris Matthews, like his compatriots in the MSM, has not only been in the pocket of the Democrats blatantly but used every occasion to ridicule the Republicans, while feigning giving equal time to both sides.”
If you don’t think you can change the name in your statement to “Sean Hannity”, while reversing your order of “Democrats” and “Republicans” - and have the statement read just as accurately when relating to Hannity as it does to Matthews - then you’re obviusly just blowing ideological, partisan smoke.
However far left Matthews may be - Hannity is equally as far right; however much in the pocket of the Democrats Matthews may be, Hannity is equally in the pocket of the Republicans; however often Matthews may ridicule a Republican and/or a Republican talking point, Hannity does the same to a Democrat or a Democratic talking point.
They are absolutely equal in their perceived divergence from “objectivity” and their “favoritism” of the opposite ends of the political spectrum.
And, obviously, if MSNBC/NBC is the network of the Democrats, Fox News is most assuredly and equally the network of the Republicans. And, in the end, who the hell cares? They each have selected a market segment or niche to appeal to and from which to hopefully generate profit - and, as with so much else - its all just about the money!
And, for the record, it’s obvious to me that Matthews is not a traditional “reporter” and that he is a lifelong and fervent Democrat - but NOT EVERYBODY - “perceives” him that way - similarly to the way you may well fail to “perceive” the conservative Republican reality of Sean Hannity and Fox News.
And, also for the record, my favorite TV political commentator is Lou Dobbs.

Wesley, Post 13;
There’s probably no one more useless than the person whose intellectual prowess is defined solely by an ability to engage in incessant namecalling.
(Compounded, in your peculiar case, by also being a blatant liar: your statement ”... he actually agreed with a guy who said the MSM was pro republican ...”)
Middle-school mini-mindedness.

Wesley, Post 15;
Just another example of how WRONG you ALWAYS are!

TK, you will lose this argument! Yes, I agree Matthews is not a newsman and I don’t think I ever said he was a newsman. I just pointed out that he was totally in the pocket of Obama and didn’t even try to be equal to each side in his comments. But, the overriding difference, and I pointed this out and this was my main point and you didn’t refute it or even address it, and that is, to compare the right (talk radio) and the left (MSM) as evenly influencing the public, each would have to have an equal ability to influence the listening and watching audience. Based on that type of measurement, the MSM has about 98% of the ability to control what goes out on TV, radio, newspapers, magazines, whatever type of medium you want to use, so trying to compare Sean Hannity and his compatriots on talk radio and his influence on the public with the overwhelming influence of the MSM, the MSM have it in a cakewalk and I think you know that. Case closed. Drive home safely!
Charlie Seng

Charlie Seng, Post 24;
Your comment:
”... he was totally in the pocket of Obama and didn’t even try to be equal to each side in his comments.”
My point: Hannity was totally in the pocket of McCain (and, especially, Palin) and didn’t even try to be equal to each side in his comments.
Further:
Check Neilsen: Hannity has a bigger daily audience than does Matthews; Fox has more than double the daily audience of MSNBC (sometimes - a 5-6-7 times B-I-G-G-E-R audience); among the talk radioheads, Savage has a daily audience of about 10,000,000 (ten times more than Matthews) and Limbaugh has about 8,000,000; even O’Reilly gets some 4,000,000 on daily radio - and there are DOZENS and DOZENS of other conservative talk radio programs - representing probably the biggest audience of anything on radio and probably bigger than all the nightly network news programs combined. ALL of these “conservative” numbers are larger, on average, than are the average audiences for the nightly news on ABC, CBS and NBC.
And, while there are probably more daily newspapers that lean “liberal” rather than “conservative”, newspapers, in particular, typically reflect the market in which they operate.
On the other hand, I would guess that “conservative” websites far outnumber those which are clearly “liberal” in their perspective.
Furthermore, according to a recent survey (very similar to the same survey results over the past many years), approximately 25% of voting age Americans call themselves “liberals” - whereas - approximately 35% of voting age Americans describe themselves as “conservative”. So - who’s outnumbering who, here?
And, personally, I happen to listen to a lot of radio - and I end up often listening to O’Reilly, Savage and Medved - and, believe me, I couldn’t find a “liberal” talk radio program in my listening area if my life depended on it!
And, since we’ve had ostensibly “conservative” Republican presidential administrations for 28 out of the last 40 years - 20 out of the last 28 - and a GOP Congress 12 out of the last 14 - just how the hell much “liberal influence” do you think the mainstream media has actually had ???
I’ll forgo matching your petty sarcasms.

TK, anyone who believes that the MSM, in its entirety, doesn’t have 10, no 100 times more influence than talk radio, doesn’t deserve to have a logical conversation. And, I did not use petty sarcasms, although with this post, you tried to and failed.
Charlie

Problem with Fairness; No ‘commercial station’ will air two opposing views! People know the liberal view, the reason conservative talk is so popular is because big media leans left! A commercial station can not afford the airing of a liberal voice since 95% of the listeners are conservative. What people will do is either change stations or just turn the radio off! How many people listen to (tax funded) NPR? We do not want to here what the left has to say 24/7! It is nice for now to have a little fresh air! Next the libs will want control of the net! I hope those in our government that want to appease the O’s, Nancey’s, Harrie’s etc would give this a lot more thought!

No comment; sorry for the mis spells and penmanship, Was on the phone and my grand daughter tugging on my arm!
BUT! Hurray for conservative talk!

Seng, Post 25;
Be my guest, Dude! Keep on smokin’ whatever it is that makes your day - and you’re free to ignore or twist the real facts all you want!
In the end, you can whine and pine about the “liberal” media all you want - but there are more self-described “conservatives” than “liberals” in the country - 60% to 40% - and Republicans have owned the presidency for 70% of the last forty years - so - apparently, your “liberal media bias”, regardless to what degree it may or may not exist, hasn’t had any really significant effect on “squashing” either conservatism or Republicanism.
Now I think I know what they mean when they call someone a “parrothead”.
De nihilo nihil.

I’m against the Fairness Doctrine because I think it’s a dangerous concept to allow the government to determine the percentage of airtime that ANY viewpoint should have; whether it be on radio shows, newspapers, or most importantly, the Internet. Let the public decide, through a free market, which news outlets thrive or which ones bust.
As a Conservative, if this means the continuation of a left-leaning MSM, so be it, it’s their freedom and I don’t have to buy their newspapers or watch their news broadcasts if I choose not to. I would no more want the government to interfere with their bias, as I would want interference with the right-wing (neo-conservative) bias that predominates talk radio or the much wider spectrum of various bias’s found on political/news websites on the Internet.
Even if the Fairness Doctrine included the MSM, the concept of a totally unbiased MSM, even if genuinely pursued by the electronic and print media outlets, would probably be an impossible task to implement and sustain.
The whole concept of a Fairness Doctrine stinks of fascism no matter which entity it would apply to.

The nicotiana glauca and that fungus some people divest in seems to affect the way they think. Solution stop indulging, accept Christ and look up, for our redemption draweth nigh!
This lace is worn out!
Good Day!

pizcaj, Post 30;
Your comment:
“I’m against the Fairness Doctrine because I think it’s a dangerous concept to allow the government to determine the percentage of airtime that ANY viewpoint should have;”
Coming from experience with the Fairness Doctrine being in effect from 1949 until 1987 - the government DID NOT “determine the percentage of airtime that any viewpoint should have” - but, rather - the FCC simply tried to assure that ALL viewpoints got EQUAL TIME - however much time that might be.
For example, if NBC interviewed the GOP candidate on-air for president for 30 minutes - they had to offer a similar interview and a similar amount of airtime to the DEM candidate. There was no requirement, however, that the opposition HAD to participate in an interview for the allotted time.
This issue is more red herring than anything else. The real issue is that the rightwingers know that they dominate and control “talk radio” almost completely - and if the Fairness Doctrine is reinstated, “conservative” talk radio will have to split available airtime, station-by-station, with “liberal” talk radio (which really doesn’t exist to any significant degree). The GOPs don’t want to do that - hence - all the crap about “free speech”, “fascism”, “socialism” and “the sky is falling, the sky is falling!”
As I’ve said elsewhere, according to annual surveys, self-described “conservatives” outnumber self-described “liberals” in America 60% to 40% - and for 70% of the time over the last 40, there’s been a Republican presidential administration - and for 12 of the last 14 years, the Republicans have controlled Congress - and you have to go back to the election of 1928 to find a Republican administration that did not include a Nixon or a Bush - so this whole brouhaha is little more than a fine GOP whine!
And I sure don’t recall any GOP complaints about the doctrine from ‘49 to ‘87 - BEFORE the talk radioheads came into vogue.
We have REAL problems in this country. The Fairness Doctrine is not one of them. (And, with it in force, the GOPs might find themselves getting much more face time on MSNBC and the other media outlets they always complain about.)

TK,
<<“if NBC interviewed the GOP candidate on-air for president for 30 minutes - they had to offer a similar interview and a similar amount of airtime to the DEM candidate.”>>
While your statement is true (except for their limited coverage of third party candidates by the MSM), my concern has more to do with day-to-day news coverage of various media outlets rather than with the occasional election cycle coverage of various political candidates. After all, the Fairness Doctrine would not be limited in its scope solely during political races but on a 365 day a year news cycle.
For example, various political biases from various outlets such as newspapers, the nightly news, talk radio, etc., in covering Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath were evident. It turned out to be more than simply covering the storm and its devastation because political finger pointing occurred as well. The same was in the case of Terri Schiavo in which the political issue of euthanasia became a hot topic. The coverage of the Iraq war became more than simply a daily account of battlefield occurrences and progress or non-progress of the conflict itself, but also the politics of whether we should remain there or not, or having gone there in the first place.
The MSM and talk radio both provided their own spin in their ‘coverage’ of these various news events, so how would the implementation of ‘fairness’ be possible during day-to-day news cycles regardless of which outlet is doing the reporting?
The resistance to the Fairness Doctrine by right-wing dominated talk radio is, to me, as understandable as the certain resistance that the left-wing MSM would exhibit if the same doctrine was going to be imposed on them. You can be sure that they would be crying “free-speech infringement” and “fascism”.
<<”As I’ve said elsewhere, according to annual surveys, self-described “conservatives” outnumber self-described “liberals” in America 60% to 40% - and for 70% of the time over the last 40.”>>
That is precisely the reason for the Right’s fierce opposition to the Fairness Doctrine, because most of the MSM do not reflect their views. Remember that famous poll taken after the ’96 election showing that 89% of Washington reporters supported Clinton even though he never received 50% of the popular vote in both his presidential bids? The MSM have obviously been out of touch with the majority of Americans in their biased news reporting. Talk radio and the Internet are all that the Right has to represent their views.
<<”there’s been a Republican presidential administration - and for 12 of the last 14 years, the Republicans have controlled Congress”>>
That has happened, thanks to talk radio and the Internet. It’s unfortunate, however, that a majority of those elected Republicans, including George Bush, had turned out to be phony Republicans, which is why they lost the House and Senate and ultimately, the Presidency.
Before talk radio and the Internet, the Democrats controlled Congress for 40 years, approx. 1952-1992 due the MSM’s monopoly at that time.
<<” And I sure don’t recall any GOP complaints about the doctrine from ‘49 to ‘87 - BEFORE the talk radioheads came into vogue”>>
The MSM was basically the only source they had at their disposal, so the public had no choice in the matter. They trusted Cronkite, Reasoner, and the rest of those phonies.
<< “We have REAL problems in this country. The Fairness Doctrine is not one of them.”>>
I agree, the Obama Administration should just drop the issue and let the people determine through airwave ratings and newspapers sold, which outlet survives and which outlet folds. Trust me, if Rachel Maddow, Lionel, or Ron Kuby pull in the ratings, their shows are not going anywhere.

TK, Brian,
كنت لا تعرف ما الذي تتكلمون عنه
The FCC issued the Fairness Doctrine in 1949 on the principle that public broadcasters had a duty to the public interest given the media extend equal time to all. Since that time, the landscape of telecommunications has greatly changed, with an increase in television stations, radio stations, and more significantly, the introduction of the Internet.
In 1969 the Democratic Congress excluded Television and Newspapers, not what the original 1949 version by the FCC.
The Democrats tried Talk Radio, but no one listened, due to that the advertisers would no longer participate.
Not so in the case of Republican radio where the listeners are vast, the reason is, it is the only way republicans could get their points across.
And TK, for the record, calling people names is an excuse for your own failings and inability to prove your point, and your lack of the language.

In a single day, Fox News has more Democrat anylists on than all MSM News stations (CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, and PBS combined) in a month.

pizcaj, Post 33;
Sorry, but my feeling is that there are many more important problems to contend with than the Fairness Doctrine and the so-called “mainstream media”.
This country will NEVER be ALL “the conservative way” nor ALL “the liberal way” in its politics and governance - so, for people on each side to INSIST that the ONLY ALTERNATIVE is “my way or the highway” is just unnecessarily divisive and counterproductive.
And, with all due respect (and coming from a one-time registered Republican), since the early-mid-‘90s - I’ve NEVER heard such incessant whining about EVERYTHING as I’ve heard from extremely partisan Republicans and their so-called Religious Right base. Personally, I agree with a lot of traditional and/or conservative political perspectives (but, certainly, not all) - and I definitely disagree with a lot of liberal and/or San Francisco values perspectives - but it is undoubtable that the currently existing reality is somewhere in the middle - and that’s where the most pragmatic, most workable and most effective solutions must come from.
BUT - we might as well voluntarily separate into at least TWO countries if abjectly ideological partisanship continues to rule the day while accentuating political and philosophical disagreement and division.
For us to recover from the shambles of the last eight years; from the shambles left by an economy based on credit rather than production; from the shambles of our now generally negative foreign relations; and from the “Red state” vs. “Blue state” wars - - BOTH MAJOR PARTIES AND THEIR RESPECTIVE SUPPORTERS NEED TO LEARN HOW TO EFFECTIVELY AND PRODUCTIVELY COLLABORATE to solve SERIOUS problems and to move forward TOGETHER in a pragmatic way.
Continuing the whining and incessantly degenerating into petty bickering about near-irrelevancies or “the sky is falling”-type issues only deepens the division and makes effective collaboration more and more difficult, if not impossible.
ALL the media are profit-oriented and I know of NO businesses today, media or otherwise, who will admit, even a tiny bit, to having any corporate or “social” responsibility to the citizenry. So, the media simply “sells” what it has determined the majority of the marketplace will “buy”. And, right now, even Murdoch and NewsCorp are beginning to “sell” some stuff at least a little bit left of what they’ve been selling all along. So, you know - as the GOPs always say - “Let the market decide!”
Unless the ideologues grow up and stop acting like little teenybopper middle-schoolers hissy-fitting in the girl’s room - we’ve already seen our best political days - and the only logical conclusion to the “my way or the highway” syndrome will be some form of balkanization.
The young ninnies on the far left and the old fogies on the far right need to find some way to cooperate and collaborate in an effective way. As it is now, it’s like a war between the airheads vs. the tightasses.
I was never fond of an Obama candidacy (nor a Palin candidacy, for that matter) - but we’re at a critical point in our history (political, social, economic, cultural, international) - and I have to hope the new guy and the team he puts together, as well as the new Congress, will do what’s right for the country and the vast majority of its population - WITHOUT overt partisanship and ideological overtones. I’m willing to wait and see - while hoping for the best.
I’m just totally sick of the wimpy whiners and the bullying bitchers and the incessant agitation and provocation over trivialities.

Post 35;
The comment:
“In a single day, Fox News has more Democrat anylists on than all MSM News stations (CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, and PBS combined) in a month.”
So - that means that Fox News is really the biggest “Liberal Devil” and most partisan Democratic outlet among all the mainstream media???
Geez, I don’t know if even Attila The Hun would go THAT far!
As they say - “The view depends on where you sit.”

Your vocabulary and phraseology also is somewhat like the English who thought that there sewage had better flavor! Your anarthria reminds me of a slug dowsed with salt or even just an old stick in the mud that likes to hear himself talk! One top of that you bore me! Go and write a letter to your self! I’ll say a prayer for you!

Post 39;
Does EVERYONE in KCMO talk funny like that? Is there any cure?
Quo fata ferunt.

TK -
<<“Sorry, but my feeling is that there are many more important problems to contend with than the Fairness Doctrine and the so-called “mainstream media”>>
I totally agree, TK, which is why so many of us on the Right can’t understand why some elements on the Left are trying to resurrect the Fairness Doctrine. Don’t you think that any initial ‘whining’ came from the Left in bringing back this archaic topic back into our news cycle? I use the adjective ‘archaic’, because as Wesley pointed out, the spectrum of available news sources (mostly from the Internet), can satisfy just about any political profile you can imagine.
I, for one, no longer watch the Big 3 network news shows anymore because of their political bias, which I know you and I disagree about the existence of. I also had cut back on my consumption of Fox News as I feel they’ve lost their Conservative edge, and have become disillusioned with right-wing talk radio as I feel they’ve been carrying the water for the Bush Administration for the past 8 years, just as I feel that CNN and MSM have covered for the Clinton Administration during the ‘90’s.
The right-wing talk show hosts, in refusing to criticize Bush on his outrageous domestic spending and open-border policy in the aftermath of 9/11, underestimated the intelligence of enough of their listeners to eventually cost the GOP the House, Senate, and Presidency.
So that leaves the Internet, which is where I get virtually all of my news from.
<<“BUT - we might as well voluntarily separate into at least TWO countries if abjectly ideological partisanship continues…”>>
I share your trepidation concerning this, but I feel that your solution of collaboration between the two major Parties is what got us into this divisive state in the first place. We, the citizens, are divided; the ‘Mainstream’ Democrat/Republican forces are not and haven’t been for many decades.
They want to keep us divided and fighting with each other in order to usher in their own elitist world agenda on all of us. You’ll never hear this on CBS, ABC, Fox News, CNN, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Chris Matthews, etc. The only high profile radio host who will tell you this, as far as I know, is Michael Savage. This is why even Fox News pretends he doesn’t exist.

T K ! The name is Byron! No wonder you only use initials!
Have your dear mother change your diapers and wipe your nose. When you graduate from pre school then post! The defecating chicanery that you spew is a leftest ploy used when they do not get there way! I do not believe in any form of macro (micro, yes) evolution but if I did You could of revolved from phallus impudicus! Your best and only hope can be found in the Biblical verse John 3:16! The Lord tells us not to call a person a fool! I don’t recall calling you any names! BUT (I can not help this) your a IDIOT and anymoe inflammatory comments your on your own, child! No more from me!

pizcaj, Post 41;
I can agree with quite a bit of what you say - although, maybe not at the same intensity level.
However, if “collaboration” by and between the major parties is no good - and if ideological partisanship between these same two major parties results in gridlock (as has been more than amply evident in recent years) - what’s left ???

Post 42;
I think the name “Jack H Hansen” fits you better than the one you’re using - but I have my own preferred name for you that can’t be used here.
Of course, this designation works, too:
Asinus asinorum in saecula saeculorum.

Democratic Congress and there earmarks! Who said housing for all? Yes thats right during the Bill.C reign!
Now where was Barney F. Chris D. and your buddy Rangel along w/others had their grubby’s all over the fleecing of Americans! There now saying is not what you can do for our country but what will the country do for (even non citizens) you! The monies are not there, so we have to borrow it from the stab in the back Arabs and the like! In this country we are awash in natural resources but these freak tree huggers are against this. I’m not a sheep that needs to be lead around by some bureaucrat that does not know his bung hole from his mouth!
Byron

TK (re: post #43),
The only answer I see, is the support for Libertarian or some other Constitution-based 3rd party candidates in future elections.
Going by the commendable recommendations you provided in post #4 from the “Are We at War or Prosecuting Criminals?” thread, you should fit in quite well with us.

pizcaj, Post 46;
For me, I think I’d like to see “The States’ Rights Party” win it all - wherein, maybe, on a state level, we’d then ALL have greater input into developing the political philosophies, policies and procedures that best represent the interests of the population of that particular state - e.g. - Alabama and New York have COMPLETELY different social, cultural and political interests, as well as significantly different problems - so let them each follow their own star without having to conform to uniform national standards (???)
That’s how it really was back in the time of the original 13 colonies - each differing markedly from the others - and each populated by people who were in tune with each respective colony’s particular raison d’etre.
I suppose that’s a form of balkanization - but I believe this country’s increasing social, cultural and political diversity and exploding population has made it far to big and far too complicated for “the left” or “the right” or “the conservatives” or “the liberals” or “the Republicans” or “the Democrats” to deal with effectively.
I’m one of the original mid-century “traditionalists” (and I hate knowing it’s Savage’s war chant), but I do believe we should have protected our borders, our language and our culture - I believe we’re a nation that should have preserved our Western Europan tradition - and I believe we were founded, if even by Deists, as a nation in the tradition of Judeo-Christian philosophy.
I believe Mexico is physically and China is financially taking over the nation - and I believe Washington and Wall Street have sold out our economy and all of us working people who depended on how it used to be before “free markets” instead of “properly regulated markets” - before “free trade” instead of “fair trade” - and before the executive branch decided it could unilaterally decide which laws it would enforce and which it wouldn’t.
Unfortunately - my perspective is apparently not a majority perspective - nor does the majority support the far left OR the far right - or even the Republican or Democratic point of view.
It seems that trying to retain (or regain) “the traditional way” is like trying to teach a roomful of cats how to walk backwards!
For me, the real decline of all things “traditional” (at least in my mind) began in the ‘80s and has picked up speed with every passing year.
About 30 years ago, I read a socio-political tome, the name and author of which I have forgotten, wherein the central thesis was that American society and politics would soon become so complex and would be sujected to such diverse demands that - - it would become impossible to effectively govern any political unit that contained more than 25,000 people!
I saw the guy’s point at the time - and I believe it has come to pass!
Happy Weekend!

TK,
The idea of “The States’ Rights Party” is definitely a start. Anything to get rid of this UN-American centralized government which has turned our country into something we no longer recognize from our youths.
If any baby-boomer or older generation would like to see how much things have changed, rent out a DVD or go on the Internet and view TV commercials from the 50’s, 60’s, and early ‘70’s. You can pick up the wholesome positiveness of that era and realize that we are indeed the frog who has been slow-cooked in a pot of tepid water which has gone up one degree at a time in temperature over the past 40 years.
I would bet that most of us would be shocked in a most pleasant way if we were transported back in time to that era and walked the streets, did some shopping, turned on the TV, ate in a restaurant, and experienced the holiday season.
I believe the overwhelming sense of peace and goodwill would bring a tear to most of our eyes.

TK, your post #46 is the closest thing I have read from you which has some truth to it.
[“For me, the real decline of all things “traditional” (at least in my mind) began in the ‘80s and has picked up speed with every passing year.”]
In my case it was the late 1960’s. That is when I began noticing the changes in the American way of life began to decline.
Our country has lost it’s moral compass, no one wants to take responsibility for their words or actions, nor do they care to treat others with any modicum of respect. We have become a modern day Saddam and Gomorrah.
TK, in our 100’s of posts throughout many different AIM articles and blogs, you have called me many names, insulted me time and time again, that is one big difference between you and I.
Remember John Rocker and his remarks about many people in NYC? There was nothing he said that was not the absolute truth, yet it cost him his career and dignity, it was not hate speech, it was truth.
Homosexuals, specifically in S.F., where they start trouble by getting into physical altercations with other protesters, defiling Churches, knocking down and kicking old ladies holding Crosses, then stomping on the Crosses. I am sick and tired of our citizens State voting results being overturned by courts, again and again. If you agree with that, why not try to overtun all elections by State. What pushed Prop 8 to pass was the 70% of blacks voting for the Prop. in S.F.
Or Atheists in Washington State putting up a hate placard next to a Nativity Scene and a Menorah. Which also has the Black community in an uproar because of what the sign says:
It says, quote, “There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens our hearts and enslaves our minds.” Yeah, that is what I want my six and seven year old nieces and nephews to see. You cannot talk or express freedom of religion, unless you happen to be Muslim where they are allowed use of the gym to pray.
Now you have, “Slavery: Teacher bind girls Hand & feet together (White Plains NY) Eileen Bernstein the Teacher”
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NY_SLAVE_LESSON_NYOL-?SITE=NYWHI&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
The White Teacher, Eileen Bernstein should face the full consequences under the law, if I were the parent, I would sue her and the school.
A 12 year old girl has been banned from school for wearing a purity ring on her finger, the school said it was dangerous. ‘It’s not a case of being religious or anti-religious. We take the view that it’s potentially dangerous.’
In the US in July last year, schoolgirl Lydia Playfoot, 16, lost a High Court battle to wear her chastity ring at school.
“The judge rejected her claim for equal rights with Muslim pupils allowed to wear head scarves.”...What!!!
Chastity and purity rings originated in America in the Nineties and became popular as a gift for parents to buy their children, perhaps it would stem the 45 million aborted babies. If you believe that Fetuses are not life, what would the Liberals say if we performed abortions on animals.
Black teacher berates and embarrasses young children for their parents voting for McCain:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/06/child-abuser-obama-supporting-teacher-bullies-soldiers-daughter/comment-page-1
Why not protect all Americans in the same manner, all cultures regardless of origin, color, or religion? The protections of certain cultures over others is wrong, and over the past 50 years has only led to mass hate…if you read the Constitution, “All men are created equally.” America would have never known of slaves if the British had not brought them to this land.
As for as your Post 44:
I am not Dave Hanson, remember, you ran him off the site, check with AIM, I have only used the one ID, whereas you have roughly six ID’s, such as Brian Sullivan, lauren, laurens daughter, and several others.
December 2 at 9:57 am | #1 | Link
I see his (Chris Matthews) pedestal crumbling! No wonder he’s looking for a seat in the governmental bureaucrat system, that’s the only thing he knows how to do! He’s a dough boy for the left and a venomous jellyfish to the right! Maybe Matthews and Rangel can open a lemon aid stand together selling lemon aid and non sweetened lemon/lime pop sickles!