It is easy to see that Obama is a Christian. His values are indicative to his words and actions.

Trinity doesnt seem to be a Christian church, just cover for people who are full of hate and preach intolerance. It didnt much surprise me to learn Rev Wright was once officially a Muslim, or that Obama went to a Muslim school in Indonesia. Trinity had to change Christianity to reflect the hate of its parishoners. They desire the destruction of white people. Forgotten are the many whites who didnt support slavery at any time in this nations history. How about the many white people who laid down their lives in the civil war. They dont get any credit from these hate filled preachers because it would weaken these so called “communtiy leaders” hold on their followers. This isnt what Christianity is about, and we ought to see that most people agree come Nov. They even circulated a Hamas manefesto in that church. What do you think Jesus would have to say about terrorism?

MIssionaries don’t lie, they sent a notice with their picture, who live in Yemen. they have been working with Obama’s family for over 12 years and said he is a muslim, born one and is one. Now he and his big friends have torn down the government there and they will never be able to count the dead and that over 380,000 people have ran, left..people need to read the Koran, it states everything they live …one is only a muslim can carry the name Hussien or Muhammad, Obama’s middle names to this day. How many heard him say he was also baptised? To say nothing of one can like for Allah and looks like they will get there wish or threat,to have their flag over our white house as the three running on both sides is about one bird and people have been promised lies..handouts from gov. but gov never saved anyone and never will. Proverbs 22:7 is being fulfilled, the rich will rule the poor. To not know the black panthers, commies, Islam and phony christians are all one mix..is to say the people have NOT done their homework, and G-d told us men do NOT learn from history. America is going down fast. the kids are dumbed down, the sixty hippie’ s are in office state and federal, and they are breeding more in schools, It was the Hitler plan, and if alive, he would be so proud,,Then to top it off, Genesis 12 tells us,,I will bless those who bless Israel and I will curse those who dont, even the silent ones. G-d tells us HE will destroy those who do not bless Israel or try to take the land Joel 2, Joel 3..but then who believe’s G-d these days. He also tells us Apostasy has to come before He does..The churches are dumbed down to with the wolves and their greed , humanistic gospel..YEP the old crusaders are back as G-d told us, what was will be, like in the days of Noah,,pure wickedness as the gov build or try to build another tower of babel that G-d tore down because of,,,,YOU GUESSED IT..Violence…Soon enough Islam will rule the world from Rome..and no one here will like it,,it will be a terribel day. All true because G-d said so..whether you want the truth or not. And Isrel wil win this war too..

Like so many people today, Obama is a Christian only in a Marxist sense of the word.  He is a Christian in the same way the Jesuits are still Christians.  Both have supplanted the will of God with the will of man.
It is easy to be frustrated by the inequities in life, mostly caused by greed and avarice.  Yet the plight of the human beings on this planet cannot be helped by ignoring God’s will.  He wants us to follow certain rules and we want to modify them to make life easier. 
While no one can love God while hating his neighbor, no one can love his neighbor at the expense of God’s law.  While I admire those who fight for human equality in the world, it is not enough to suppose that this agenda is more important than the Deity’s plans for us.  That requires a bit more humility than famous people seem to have.

Obama is not real Christian. How can Democrats be real Christians when they deny GODS WORD by being Pro Abortion. All agony hurt pain that they cause Babies to suffer will be visited on them manyfold according to our LORDS own words. Same here in Australia for those in ALP. They are all Pro Abortion supporting Partial Abortion & other methods of killing Babies in wombs.

I am sorry to say that I have no confidence in Obama as to his Christianity. Under no circumstances would I believe that Christians would set under the ministry of Rev. Wright. Neither do I believe a Christian can knowingly vote for a politician who supports abortion. Neither do I believe that Christians are in bed with terrorists. Obama has some strange friends and attachments. Mr. Frank Marshall and others, Alice Palmer, communists. I hope Americans will wake up before they vote for this man.

Scripture tells that in last years of End Time Nations will not support Israel. So whoever is next presidents will fulfill Bible prophecy when Israel is invaded. Ez 38 & 39

I am a Liberal Christian who happens to be a democrat and an Obama supporter. I am also pro choice but not pro abortion. There is a difference. Jesus and God are one and the same and if Jesus were on earth today, He would be a Liberal. His friends would be sinners (homosexuals, prostitutes, and drug users) and He would be compassionate towards them, love his neighbor and share the Gospel. Through his actions of not condemning sinners, many would be converted and follow Him. God gives us the freedom to make our own choices and a woman’s right to choose should be hers alone.

Obama is unique. He is unlike any presidential candidate in the history of the United States of America. He has opened his soul to the America people and many still do not know who he is. His diverse background has taken him on a type of pilgrimage across many nations and personal associations. He tells about all in his memoir, as he struggled with his own identity and personal demons.

He turned out to be a wonderful soul, full of wisdom and temperance. His aspirations and dreams are his alone and it is impossible for him to deny his past. His affiliation to Rev. Wright and his Church is no different than my affiliation to my family and friends. They have their opinion and I have mine. Approximately 42% of American have relatives or close friends who are bigots and racist. Does that mean they all share the same values hate and bigotry because they bowl together or attend the same lodge? The real truth is America is afraid of Obama because they have never had a black man get this close to being the leader of this nation. For some people, It would be easier to elect Bush for another term than vote for Obama.

Prochoice is same as Proabortion. Very clever way of pretending not to be killing babies in womb. Obama also denies Yeshua is only way of Salvation. He changed his name from Barry to Barack. So why did he do this?

I find it hard to believe, no impossible to believe that a Christian can be prochoice ar proabortion.What is so hard to believe about the commandment,Thou shalt no kill?

To understand Obama or any African American, you must understand that their American experience is not the same as a typical white person. Consider for the moment that America was founded on Christian principles, yet prior to the Jim Crow, blacks were treated with extreme hatred, segregation and discrimination. The black churches were formed and form their own opinions. You really need to walk in a man’s shoes before you can really understand who he is and what he has experienced. Obama does come from a Muslim heritage and spent many years soul searching. If you take the time to read his memoir you will see into his journey. He talks about struggling with being of mix race, religious beliefs and drug use. He was one of the luck ones and came out okay. He chose to follow his mother’s advice and get a good education and Christianity over Islam.

No one – not even pro-choice Christians like myself – want abortions to occur.  Everything cannot be defined as right or wrong, good or bad, full stop or slow. The circumstances and situation are different and that is why there is a huge division in opinion. Does life begin in the womb or in the sperm/egg? Should condoms be outlawed, as the sperm dies if not inseminated. Should birth control pills be outlawed, as they destroy the egg? I say let your own conscience be your guide and that is why the Pharisees could not back Jesus into a corner concerning politics and religion.

Obama will always be regarded as a Muslim by followers of Islam. There are many churches with blacks & whites worshiping together as Loving Brethren in Christ who remember there is no black or white resurrection bodies but according to a persons rewards at Bema seat they will have Shining bodies. We are called to hate the sin with all our hearts but still the sinner love even as Yeshua loves us. Our LORD has made it quite clear what HE has said about abortion even though that word is not in HIS written WORD.

Well I do not see how any Muslim can believe Obama is a follower of Islam? Neither have I read any such accusation from the Muslim community? Obama has been the member of a Christian Church for the last 20 plus years. Water and oil does not mix and I think people who do not support Obama take pleasure in linking Obama to Islam.  Concerning blacks and whites worshiping together, Sunday morning is well regarded as being the most segregated hours in the country. It is getting better, but we have a long way to go. Concerning abortion, we have to agree to disagree. There are Christians who are pro-life and pro-choice.

Even Obama squirmed when he admitted that to be Prochoice was to choose to kill Baby in womb.    Job10:8-12 ; Isaiah49:1,5 ; Jer.1:4,5 ;      Ps139:13-16, 127:3 ; Ex21:22-25 ; 23:7 ; Gen9:6   Luke1:41, 44 ; Gal. 1:15, 16 ; 1 Peter 4:15.  There have been articles re his friends from boyhood & Teenage years who said he was a Muslim & Islam says if your father (stepfather as well) is Muslim than son is regarded as apostate if he converts elsewhere.

Kenneth
My objections to Obama are not based om his color. I have worshiped with persons of color, worked with them, employed them, and fellowshipped with them at my dining room table. It has everything to do with his associations with people who have a different ideology than what I can accept. The View which he takes concerning abortion and the “change” that he wants to make. I don not have to hate someone to be against their agenda or their beliefs. He is too close to the communist party to gain my respect and approval.

Julius
I don’t know whether or not Obama is a muslim or not. This I do know, the Islamics support his campaign. How can a good Muslim support a good Christian. Some things are no brainers.

Julius
You said: It is easy to see that Obama is a Christian. His values are indicative to his words and actions.
Please educate me on his values. I know what his sanctity of life value is, He said we shouldn’t punish them with a baby.
What are some others?

Julius you said: No one – not even pro-choice Christians like myself – want abortions to occur.  Everything cannot be defined as right or wrong, good or bad, full stop or slow. Correct me if I am wrong but if this is true then we could just legalize murder or bank robbery and rape. It benefit society so much. We could convert our jails to places of entertainment, boys clubs, factories…..
What do about it?

All I can say now is that our LORD will work all things to HIS Will & design. HE knows what people will choose in all choices they make so everything will take place re HIS Bible prophecies. Church has become Laodician Church so they will follow politicians who support their agenda. Only a Faithful Remnant still believes our LORD & will not deny HIS Written WORD. “House divided against itself will not stand.”

Trimble
On this we are in perfect agreement. I am afraid that America is divided. Our young people are well versed in socialism and the tax payers have paid for it. Many young people I meet know little about Jesus Christ. Oh well that is a different discussion.

Obama is a Christian and is not receiving money from lobbyist or the nation of Islam. Why would he jeopardize his candidacy, as donations are publicly scrutinized? Obama has publicly stated that he has accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. According to Romans 10:9-10 that makes him born again and regardless of what or what he was not prior to conversion does not matter to me. He is a brother in Christ.

Most of Democrats USA & ALP Australia Christians belong to Laodician Church. Those who are not Prochoice are Philadelphian Ecclesia. So our LORD distinguishes between them in HIS letters to 7 Churches.

When did it come to the point that being a Christian meant caring about only two issues,­ abortion and homosexuality?

Ask the nonreligious what being a Christian today means, and based on what we see and read, it’s a good bet they will say that followers of Jesus Christ are preoccupied with those two points.

Poverty? Whatever. Homelessness? An afterthought. A widening gap between the have and have-nots? Immaterial. Divorce? The divorce rate of Christians mirrors the national average, so that’s no big deal.

If Jesus were here today, He would be a Liberal

Julius Our LORD said we are to hate sin but to love sinner even as our Heavenly Father hates sin & loves sinners. This includes all sins like Fornication including Homosexuality, Adultery. Babies in wombs are persons according to our Heavenly Father so killing them is MURDER. I would not be surprised to see spirits & souls of babies in Kingdom of GOD outnumbering adults when we are all together with our LORD Yeshua never to be separated from HIM for Eternity. We are called to fulfill Great Commission this includes Word of Warning regarding SINS which our Heavenly Father HATES. “It is far better for one to put a millstone around neck & throw himself into sea than to harm one of these little ones.”  Better than what??  Only rights we have is RIGHTS our LORD has given us, this does not include rights to murder babies in wombs. Our LORD loves all Babies in wombs as HE loves you & me.

Kenneth Tremble I agree with you statement on abortion and who God’s see it. But it is one of those gray areas that have divided Christians. You cannot legislate morality. We see that in the Old Testament law and it does not work. If you outlaw abortion, then you will have people doing it underground. It will create other vices. There are many circumstances that need to be taken into considering, such as saving the mother by aborting the baby, rape, etc. These are the gray issues and that is why many people feel a woman has a right to choose.

Julius Babies feel all the agony of their pain when they are aborted. Do women have that right to inflict it?

I believe Obama is a Christian and I agree that a woman has a right to choose. No one will win this debate because it involves exercising power over a woman’s body.

Julius we have no rights but those which our LORD has given us. Blacks only churches have that free will choice to reject all other Christians of all other races, but our LORD has said we are HIS Disciples if we truly love one another. Here in Australia all races join together in truly LOVING our LORD & LOVING all Brethren who belong to HIM. Kenneth

Things in America are a little different. The traditional black church was form out of segregation. Jim Crow laws prevented blacks from fellowshipping with whites. Even to this day, it is said that Sunday morning is the most racially divided time in America. Some churches are boasting how diverse they are and for good reason. It is not the norm, but times are changing. America has a lot of racial problems and our current presidential election has brought out the worst on both sides.

Julius as you said—-“has brought out the worst on both sides.”—- This shows they are not Real True Christians. “Love you ME & Love all peoples, Love as I have loved you. This your Calling This MY Purpose, Thus be MY Disciples TRUE.”

Well I wont say they are not true Christians. We all are a work in progress. When Jesus made the statement you quoted, the disciples were bickering between one another concerning various issues. The Church at Corinth had many issues. Believers are saved by grace and without grace no one is saved.

Julius 7 letters to 7 churches. They are all HIS churches. But Church today is Laodician Church. So our LORD tells us what will happen to them. So in rejecting what HE has said they are spurning HIS LOVE. They need to Truly repent & follow HIS teachings 100%. “Judgment must first commence at the House of GOD”  HE is sifting HIS church, many will be shocked in being LEFT BEHIND. Apostle Paul tells us that HIS true Disciples belong to Ecclesia of Theos.  Not Churchianity or Christendom.

I am so proud of our country and the people who hoped for change. I remember my youngest son watching me work on my car. He just set there watching me. I asked him what was he doing and he said “waiting for something exciting to happen”. Last night, something exciting happened for all Americans. Who would think a skinny community organizer with big ears, would excite the whole world. Obama 08

Well Julius, It sure was exciting. I couldn’t believe how ignorant the people are . Electing a Marxist to fill the White House. A Marxist with a wife who is just now proud , for the first time, of her country. Biggest bunch of excitement I have ever seen.

Well RazzWV that is your opinion which sounds like a sound bite from Shawn Hannity or Rush. If anybody is a Marxist, it would be Bush and the Republican Party. I am so glad the greater majority of Americans know better. Concerning Michelle Obama being proud of her country for the first time, she did not mean it the way it has been twisted. I will say as an African American, I have not been exceptionally proud of America and how it has treated it’s citizens of color. Christian nation? By whose standards? Surly not God’s

I believe you know better than this. Redistribution of wealth is Marxism. I have never heard Rush of Hannity promote such theories. You know this, don’t you?

First of all America is not a communist country and redistribution of wealth or Marxism is a moot point. Right-Wing pundits made a big deal out of this to get McCain elected. Obama will not raise taxes on 90% of American. Big business and corporations will loose the Bush tax cuts and those will go to people who earn $250,000 or less. President Obama believes American will use the money to buy goods and services, which will boost the economy. Joe the plumber does better under Obama than Bush, but Joe is to dumb to know it.

Julius,    First of all , redistribution of wealth is what socialist countriues do.  Nothing moot about it. Obama said that he will redistribute wealth. He also said he has bought into global warming and will raise taxes so high on energy companies that Electricity costs will skyrocket and coal companies will go bankrupt. What do you think people will do when the corporate taxes become so high that we lose them to foreign countries? Most of them have already left. We have the second highest corporate tax rate now. Corporations have been leaving the US rapidly for several years. Long before Bush took office. Try Clinton’s administration for instance. Gas prices do not need more taxes added to them and the Big Oil companies make less percentage than most other corporations in the US.Last I heard from Biden the figure wasn’t $2590,000 it was $150,000.  My family and friends received tax cuts under Bush and we are not in the $250,000 income range. Joe sounded rather intelligent to me.
Chavez said that it looks like the US is ready for the change like other countries. Come on Julius open your eyes.
There is none so blind as he who will not see.

Like JWs Church Obama is member of does not believe in Deity of Christ also what HE has said about HIMSELF. “No one can come unto ME unless FATHER first draws him.”“No one can come unto FATHER but by me.”“If you do not believe I AM you will die in your sins”.

What most Republicans and conservatives know about Obama comes from right-wing media. Everything Rush or Hannity says about Obama is regurgitated on these blogs. First it was the empty suit mantra, despite the FACT he graduated from two of the best colleges in the country, Columbia and Harvard. Then it was his ability to lead, despite the FACT he organized and ran the best presidential campaign in American history, turning traditional red states blue. Then it was his associations, despite the FACT Ayers is a college professor who has been cleared of any wrongdoing. Rezco, the housing developer, who was not convicted of anything during the time he was working with then Chicago senator Obama. Rev. Wright, who by many opinions was dead on when he said God condemns the behavior of this country, as it relates to racism and bigotry towards people of color. The lies and smear cut deep, accusing Obama of being everything and anything but a child of God.

The only socialist I have seen in my generation is President Bush administration. How can you be a conservative, run up debt to 10 trillion, continues one of the longest war machine in history at 2 billion pre month and say we wont raise taxes to pay for it?

I’m sorry but I didn’t realize that the criteria for socialism was running a war machine and spending money. If that is your definition for socialism then this conversation is meaningless. You could not debate this issue.