You know, I think charitable giving for worthy causes (not to promote an idealistic agenda) is honorable and compassionate. The world at large could use more of this in a big way.

But, in this case, I would rather see the Times sink and let someone else send the help. No hard feelings for those working there (we all need a job), but with such an overwhelming leftist media, the world could use a few less like the Times.

What do you think happened to “charitable giving” during the Depression?

Obviously, any individual or business facing financial difficulties is NOT going to be very apt to “give away” their money when the need it, first and foremost, to keep their own thing going!

This article is the equivalent of saying that someone who had nothing to eat or drink for 3-4 days was probably “hungry and thirsty”.  Duh!

This IS news because the liberals always tout how much they care for and give, when in fact it is lies.  So TK, wake up and smell the roses.  Even in this economic downturn, conservatives open their pocketbooks even more.  That shows the difference between the hypocritcal liberals and the truly compassionate conservatives.  It is a shame that I gave more than Obama and Biden last year, yet I make lots less.

Re: Post 3;

Obviously, when the economy is in the tank, ‘charitable giving’ declines all around – whether ‘corporate’ or ‘personal’.  One’s “politics” has NOTHING to do with it.

As far as your claim that you … “gave more than Obama and Biden last year” … as I recall, Obama’s tax return included charitable donations totaling some $180,000 to $200,000.  I don’t recall the amount of Biden’s contributions – but – if you gave more than $200,000 to legitimate and worthy charities last year – then you deserve gratitude and appreciation from the recipients of those funds for that generosity.

However, attaching almost indefineable political labels to giving – and – measuring charitable and political “worthiness” in dollars – is ridiculous!  I know people who are in personal situations where their $100 worth of charitable donations is FAR superior in “worthiness” and sacrifice on their parts than is the $200,000 that a professional athlete making $20 million annually might contribute.

And, I think one of the pinnacles of hypocrisy occurs when someone brags about the amount he or she has “contributed to charity”.

I wasn’t bragging about the amount, I was bragging about the hypocrisy of Obama and the Democratic Party.  By the way, you must not do any research because a report came out last year that proved that liberals lagged far behind conservatives in their charitable giving because they think they shouldn’t give because the government will for them.  So you might come down off your sanctimonius soapbox into the real world and do research before you make yourself look even more ignorant, TK.  You spoutoff, as do most liberals without knowing the facts and expect people to bow at your wisdom when there is none in your posting.  So take your whiney attacks elsewhere because you have been exposed for the liar and deceiver that you are.

Re: Post 5;

Funny, Former, I don’t ever recall hearing very many people bragging about a negative – e.g. – “I was bragging about the hypocrisy of Obama”.  Pretty illogical “brag” if you ask me.

And, I have absolutely NO INTEREST whatsoever in whether “liberals” or “conservatives” give more to charity – - and I think it’s pretty “ignorant” that one would measure the worthiness of a political philosophy in terms of the amount of charitable giving by its adherents.

(Most people give to charity through their houses of worship – NOT through their political parties – - and, of course, you must know this – - by far and away, the largest “political philosophy” in this country is not “Liberal” or “Conservative” – - it is “Independent”!  Does your research tell you how the “Independents” compare to “Liberals” and “Conservatives” in terms of charitable giving?)

And, take note, you’re the one doing the whining here – and the labeling and the name-calling and the spouting-off and the standing on a sanctimonious soapbox.

So, Former, BY HOW MUCH did YOU EXCEED Obama’s 2008 contributions to charity?  (Even though you “made way less”!)

Just buzz off!

You have no interest in the truth because it does not serve your purpose, so you lie and try and misdirect your comments.  Where did I name call, I didn’t so just another lie from you to cover the facts that you can’t hold an intelligent discourse.  It is not my research that shows the facts, so why don’t you do a little Gooling and find the report yourself, or are you too scared of the fact that you will be caught in another lie?  The only labeling I have done here is liberal and conservative, does that offend you?  If so, grow up and act like a man.  I have done no whining here, like you lie says, I stated facts succinctly and you have yet to state one fact but resort to misdirection.  If you don’t like me and my sancitmonious soapbox, what are you going to do about it?  Same old cowardly name calling without the courage to face reality!  Why do you want to know how much I gave, if it doesn’t matter to you?  Just another liberal coward with no substance, just like your president and party.

Re: Post 7;

First – as I clearly said before – I HAVE NO INTEREST in the charitable “GIVING HABITS” of “Liberals” vs. “Conservatives” – just as I have NO INTEREST whatsoever in which team won the most recent Soccer World Cup nor which NHL team wins this year’s Stanley Cup.

I DON’T CARE about “the truth” in these matters because I have NO INTEREST IN THE ACTIVITY to which the respective “truth” belongs!  Who won or wins each respective championship is simply irrelevant to me because I have no interest whatsoever in either sport.  Similarly, I have no interest whatsoever in the amounts of money that people may or may not contribute to charity. 

AND – however much one may choose to or be able to contribute to charity HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY – and ESPECIALLY nothing to do with “proving” which political philosophy might be considered “better” than another.  To make that connection is absurd.

Second – you ask … “Where did I name call” …?

How about these names that you called me:

- – “ignorant”
- – “scared”
- – “whiney”
- – “liar”
- – “deceiver”
- – “cowardly”
- – “liberal coward”
- – “coward with no substance” – which, along with me, you said also applied to Obama and the Democratic Party.

You really ought to read (and be able to remember) your own posts before you go off the wall in very far-out left field criticizing the posts of others!

Third – I’m really not interested in how much money you may have given to charity last year – OTHER THAN you clearly stated you “gave more than Obama and Biden” – and, I suspect, finding “the truth” behind that statement will likely prove YOU to be “the liar”, here!

BTW: Can you even accurately define “Liberal” and “Conservative”?  I doubt it.  How about “Ideologue” – or – “Lemming”?

As I’ve said – buzz off!

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Obviously you skipped English classes, TK because those words are adjectives, go look up the definition.  Again you refuse to address facts and truths and try with lies to change the subject.  The point is, you have been exposed.  You know what you are as well as those who have seen you posts without substance.  So with you standing there, exposed, I leave you and your pitiful mind to it’s mental illness.  You can go back to your hiding behind your lies, now because you aren’t worth the trouble.

Re: AIM Moderator, Post #9;

So – take a look at Post #10.

I believe …

“So with you standing there, exposed, I leave you and your pitiful mind to it’s mental illness.  You can go back to your hiding behind your lies, now because you aren’t worth the trouble.”

… is an “ad hominem attack” … and “I leave you and your pitiful mind to it’s (sic) mental illness” is probably at least the equal of (and, I think, somewhat beyond) “nasty extremist rightwing nutcase” … don’t you?

And, of course, this particular Post #10 is a continuation of a pattern – just see above.

Just askin’, you know!