Accuracy in Media

In an interview with New York magazine discussing her life after the election, Hillary Clinton said that the eagerness to pin her election loss solely on her is due to “schadenfreude:”

“When I ask Clinton about the eagerness to blame her and her alone for the election result, she gets impatient. ‘Oh, I don’t know, you’d have to talk to a psychologist about it. There’s always, what’s that word … Schadenfreude — ‘cut her down to size,’ ‘too big for her own britches’ — I get all that. But I don’t see this being done to other people who run, particularly men. So I’m not going to engage in it. I take responsibility, I admit that I’m not a perfect candidate — and don’t know anybody who was — but at the end of the day we did a lot of things right and we weathered enormous headwinds and we were on our way to winning. So that is never going to satisfy my detractors. And you know, that’s their problem.’”

In Clinton’s eyes, if it wasn’t for James Comey, WikiLeaks and misogyny, she would be president today despite the fact that she turned out to be a terrible candidate who took the election for granted.





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Comments

  • JES

    Hilary will never come to terms with the fact that she lost because she is extremely untrustworthy and a practicing witch! Too bad, so sad, Hilary, that you are still so delusional. Nothing else mattered in the end, I’m afraid.

  • Jim Barrow

    For God’s sake, you wizened frump, take your damned meds and wake the hell up! You are a career criminal and the worst candidate in the history of politics. You are a liar and a fraud and no one wants you.

    Go back into the woods and die already!

  • Mark Wynn

    Is Schadenfreude her pet name for Bill?

  • gongdark

    Two things should happen with Hillary. First, get over it and point the finger inward. Second…….DIE!!!!!!

  • BobInBpt

    Is “schadenfreude” the same as “covfete” ????? Then that means that Hillary is a Russian operative also !!!!!!

  • flpbpress

    Kwitcherbitchin’, Hitlery. You ran an inept campaign. You assumed you had the election in the bag. You were arrogant and unpleasant, much as you have ben portrayed in “tell all” books from Arkansas State Troopers, and Secret Service Personnel.

    You hired a dumbass for a campaign manager, who used “password” as his password for his internet account. You cheated. You colluded with Debbie “dipstick” Schultz against Bernie Sanders, and with CNN (Donna Brasille) (sp), who fed you debate questions prior to the debate.

    And you have the temerity to get on stage, and throw blame everywhere but on yourself? You whiny twit! You deserved to lose. Go piss up a rope. Don’t go away mad, just go away. Permanently.
    .

  • Beth

    She’s the one who should “talk to a psychologist”.

  • Mesa Mike

    Hillarious ist ein witz, jawohl!.

  • MILES E DRAKE

    What the election of 2016 revealed was not that the democrat candidate was too big for her britches, but that the United States of America is too big for its bitches.

  • MILES E DRAKE

    What defeated this bribe-taking baby-killing bulldyke was not that she was too big for her britches, but that the American people are too smart for their witches.

  • Norman Frank

    So now she has a German connection?

  • mark

    Years ago i learned that both she and tony blairs wife consulted spiritists for advise…… and she must have believed lies she was fed for some years now.

  • mark

    Or maybe ask for an exorcism.

  • (deplorable) gabwin

    The more she talks the stupider she looks…and makes us all heave a sigh of relief that she was not elected.

    She is the worst candidate for President in the history of the country.
    Øbama is the worst President in the history of the country.

    You gotta admit, Democrats are good at breaking records.

  • (deplorable) gabwin

    If she was any kind of a decent “practicing witch” she likely would have won. But she can’t even do THAT right.

  • suerobb

    You lost when you called half the country deplorable, honored BLM, lied about Benghazi( not once but went on for weeks), thought you were better than the rest of us and did not have to follow rules about communications……. and that was just the present…… let’s go back to the Watergate investigation were you were “fired” for being dishonest, your investments, filegate , travelgate, bimbogate and MtEverestgate……….

  • james warren

    Do you have a library card?
    Nancy Reagan ran her husband and the White House using an astrologer. Those of us who study and read knew this full well.

  • james warren

    Typical rage-filled Republican. No facts, focused data or evidence. Putrid and immature behavior. Sounds like the president.

  • james warren
  • james warren

    What a collection of childish and immature name-calling and venom!
    What prevents ideologues like yourself from doing some focused study and reading?
    More Americans voted for Hillary than they voted for Trump. This fact STILL bothers the president.
    Why should it?

  • gongdark

    been reading some of your ramblings. Thanks, you make me laugh.

  • james warren

    Thanks, gongdark. Humor is a great way to mend fences and do some collaborative problem-solving. The family I was raised up in prized a good sense of humor.

  • james warren

    No. It is covfete, clearly.

  • flpbpress

    And what about what I said, is not true? Did she run an inept campaign? Did she ignore the voters in “flyover country?” Did she not treat her staff with disdain and contempt? Did she not hire a dumbass (Podesta) as a campaign manager, whose internet account was easily hacked? Did she not collude with her party’s chairwoman (Wasserman-Schultz) and with CNN (Brazille)? Has she taken responsibility for her debacle last November?

    And so what if more people voted for her. That;s not how our elections work, and she knew it going in. The Electoral College is there to prevent the larger and more populous states from dominating the elections. Take away California, and Trump wins the popular vote. Do you really want Governor Moonbeam dictating policy?

    Queen Hillary I lost. Get over it. She lost for the reasons already stated, and because she was unlikable as a candidate, and as a person. If you cannot see the truth in that, then you need a new pair of glasses.

  • mioahu

    Yeah James, you a relative of Pocahontas or what ? Your arguments are childish and immature, like the one about socialism, and you clearly don’t really grasp what you are talking about. It’s like saying that even if a team lost the game, they had more yards, therefore…. WHAT ? SP WHAT ? the game is played by points not by yards … Trumps strategy was to win the electoral college (that’s how american elections work) , and he did… so what if more people voted for Hillary ? If it was by the number of people, republicans in states and districts where they never win would turn out (like in California, NY where is still a significant number of republicans) and he still would have won… the truth she was an empty vessel, full of identity politics, with no strategy other than relying on class and race warfare, like lefties always do,,, cause otherwise they have 0 chances of winning, their leftis ideology is a loser one

  • james warren

    She was the more popular candidate.
    This is a fact.
    This is true.
    That’s the way it shakes out.
    Sorry about that.

    Read the book “Shattered.” It will give you a competent and fact-filled look at why Hillary lost the election. There is no hate, mockery or immature name-calling. There is only facts, data and hard evidence from many sources inside and outside the campaign.

    And now the investigation of Russia’s role begins.

    “The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.”
    –Donald J. Trump tweet

  • james warren

    You folks continually make judgments out of a deep well of rage, emotionalism and a dense, dark swamp of paranoia, proto-racism and a pointed lack of education. You are as yet unable or unwilling to see truth as nuanced and complex so you circle back to your childhood patterns of name-calling and blame.

    What prevents you from carrying on an adult dialogue with respect and fairness?

    Is this the sort of family pattern you grew up in? If so, I pity the children you will have. If you continue to make yourself willfully ignorant of your own childhood abuse, you will simply pass it on unthinkingly to the next generation.

  • Mark Wynn

    Trump carried the majority of voters in 2,626 counties across this great republic, while Hillary carried only 487 counties in high-density, failed Democrat metroplexes. Hillary’s “popular” vote advantage came from one state (CA) and one city (NYC.} Personally, I don’t want LaLaLand and NYC hijacking the will of the rest of the nation. Thanks our Founding Fathers for the wisdom of the Electoral College. Students of history, they knew that
    “Popular vote” is like two wolves and a lamb voting on what’s for dinner. Thanks

  • james warren

    Your personal opinion is noted.

    AND

  • mioahu

    Yeah, as usually, you just said exactly nothing, exactly like Hillary did during her campaign , not addressing any of the points I make related to the electoral college or any fact that I mentioned about. Instead, like Hillary, you blurbed the leftist speaking points and said zero, nada. And do not worry about my children, i bet they are well more rounded up and well educated than yours, in case you even have …cause i actually accomplished something, while you just keep blabbing nonsense. It’s a waste of my time talking to you

  • mioahu

    AHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAH, pocahontas hilarious as usual, who can’t let it go ?

  • mioahu

    Pocahontas, it just so happens that everything mentioned above is true. Stop with the focused reading and study BS, cause you do none of that, and if you did, you would know all of the above are true You proved your total immaturity and lack of knowledge through your inept understanding of socialism in your other posts, and through your total lack of arguments in any posts. the USA is a constitutional republic in case you didn’t know. So the game is played by electoral votes. And YOU LOST ! Thanks GOD we use electoral votes so that idiotic leftist big cities can’t steal the elections ! Now go do some reading , cause in spite of the blabbing you obviously don’t do much of it , and rely on leftist talking points from late night comedians

  • mioahu

    It’s BUSH’s fault !!!!!!!! AHAHHAHAHAHHA, Pocahontas, you again pretend to have read , and avoid the main discussion point entirely, like you usually do in your posts… well done, dimwit. is that your actual picture ? feels like it

  • mioahu

    The book actually says that she lost because she was incompetent, couldn’t relate to people, had no message, was too sure about the win, dismissed trump and his supporters , was not trustworthy , had the wrong campaign strategy and moved too much to the left 🙂 And that’s what everybody on this thread is saying, you just showed that you didn’t actually read the book :-), as usually, get talking points from late night comedians, and accuse people of not reading ….Pocahontas. !!!!

  • Mark Wynn

    Please reread the facts of the Electoral College, above, this time for understanding. Thanks. Here’s a succinct, 5 mon. primer. https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/do-you-understand-electoral-college

  • james warren

    Your ability to read my mind and guess at my motives is profound.

    Keep trying!

    And to be efficient at it, simply ask me directly and respectfully like any other adult.

    And–sorry to be blunt–but the fact is, Hillary won the popular vote.

    This simply means more American citizens voted for her than they did Donald Trump.

    This is true.

    This is a fact.

    It is evidence that will be documented and remembered by history.

  • james warren

    It is not our job to educate; you should have gotten your education in school and in your family of origin.
    Our job is to listen–not to dodge, weave and name-call like Donald Trump does.
    Reality is your teacher and Trump’s teacher.

  • james warren

    I think you read it with inattention and to confirm your own prejudices.

    The book itself does not conclude anything. It quotes many people inside and out of her campaign what THEY THEMSELVES thought.

    That is all.

    That’s what real journalism does. It provides contradictory data, facts and evidence and lets the READER make his/her mind up.

    The best books do not convince.

    They make you think.

  • james warren

    “…you would know that all of the above is true.”

    There you go again.

    “…all of the above are true.”

    Really?
    ALL the above are true?

    Be careful using adverbs like all, everyone, never, no one, always, all, every single one, etc.

    They promote sloppy thinking.

    Trump said himself the electoral college was rigged. He won the electoral college. And even though the election was seven months ago, he STILL brings it up.

    Why in God’s name would he keep DOING that?

    Again, what does “winning the popular vote” mean to you?

    I think if you were honest, you would simply admit that the fact still makes you a bit angry.

    Every time I have brought up that fact, you respond with disrespect and mockery.

    Are you willing to be accountable for that anger?

  • james warren

    Thank you.
    AND, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote.
    This simply means a majority of American citizens voted for Hillary instead of Trump.
    I can only provide the facts. I will not be responsible for smoothing your ruffled feathers for you.

  • james warren

    You should have seen me BEFORE the plastic surgery!
    I read “Shattered” and posted a review on Amazon.
    I have a hint. If you really DO enjoy reading and have a library card, you can request the book and they will order it for you.
    If you are browsing at a bookstore, just read the first and last sentence of every paragraph and that will give you enough information to learn what the book is about.
    Thank God for our socialist library system!
    All for One and One for All!

  • mioahu

    Well if you did read it, must have not been really helpful 🙂 or you just took away what didn’t really cause you any cognitive dissonance .
    And that motto is associated with “The Three Musketeers”, and loosely with Switzerland AHAHAHAH….The United States motto is “Et Pluribus Unum”
    Bye now commie…

  • mioahu

    Trump said many things :-). He sometimes says what he feels serves him best.. Hillary won the populat vote, but in US elections that means nothing, the game is played for electoral vote, and Trump had the right strategy to win the majority of electoral votes. If the game was played by winning the popular vote, people would have different strategies, and there is absolutely no guarantee that Hillary would win .
    Bringing up the popular vote is just ridiculous, it means nothing. The only reason you guys keep bringing it up is because of the devastating defeat your candidate suffered, and you have to make it look better and deal with the cognitive dissonance. And you must admit that the fact that she lost such a massive defeat still makes you a bit angry 🙂 like every day, just a bit 🙂 Bye commie

  • mioahu

    ha, that’s exactly what I said about the way you read it 🙂 Projection :-). I guess we think differently, and the facts and evidence lead us to different conclusions 🙂 but we already know that by now.

  • mioahu

    And it means nothing, so not sure why you bring it up. Donald Trump won the electoral vote, that what counts in THIS country , maybe in mother Russia that you admire it’s different…So he is president, Hillary is not, she suffered a massive defeat in the United States election. I know that the fact that she won the electoral vote makes you feel a bit better , but it does not matter 🙂

  • mioahu

    Well yes, but since you didn’t I tried. And the harsh reality for all lefties is that Trump is president, and he’s undoing the leftist agenda every day. he’s not perfect, by any stretch of the imagination, but he is the perfect vehicle for the job at hand, reversing the leftist takeover of the united states. No other republican would have had the balls to do or attempt to do even half of what he’s done sofar, and he has a long way to go. Usually republicans cave to the leftist pressure. He doesn’t, and that makes him perfect for dismantling the leftist agenda. He is a tool , and it does not have to be perfect as long as it does the job, and it does it indeed …must be painful for all you armchair socialists out there

  • james warren

    It’s difficult to let facts and evidence go, particularly by those who are able to do focused research and critical thinking.

    These are FACTS:
    Trump is president because he won the electoral college vote.
    Hillary is not, even though she won more votes from the American population at large.

    Trump himself was long quoted as referring to our elective franchise as “rigged” when it concerns the electoral college system.

    Hillary as a demon, or as unattractive or as a criminal are statements of opinion and interpretation, not factual statements.

    Most people who were fortunate to attend junior high schools and good high schools that offered political science classes and civics teaching largely know full well what the electoral college is all about.

    An ignorance of this important part of our system probably causes a reflex action among those who are emotionally connected to a desire to have their voices heard–which is much of the reason Trump was elected in the first place.

    Anything that appears to challenge the interpretation that Trump is a strongman who best exemplifies “the only hope” America has is denigrated, mocked, and is seen as being “fake news.”

    There is reality, there are facts that are based on that reality and then there are the opinions and interpretations of those facts.

    As Kellyanne Conway observed, there are facts and then there are “alternative facts.”

    Indeed.

  • james warren

    I don’t think you have much familiarity with American history and the Progressive Movement.

    Liberal ideas include our national park system and wilderness areas, the 8-hour work week, the weekend, overtime pay, Social Security insurance, government help to rebuild areas decimated by the weather and other circumstances, safeguards to protect us from badly prepared food, child and auto safety laws, a focus on maintaining clean air and clean water, etc.

    ***Attempting to convince me that all liberal tenets are evil and all conservative tenets are good is just as ignorant and ill-informed as saying something like all conservative ideas are evil and all liberal ideas are good***

    If you can stand back from deep emotional reactions, you will hopefully learn what I am trying to say here.

  • james warren

    Your intentions are good, yet you seem still unable and unwilling to be aware of or accountable for the EFFECTS of those “good intentions.”

    This is not easy–take it from me.

    But doing that is good because it makes us keep doing a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

    To imply that all progressive ideals are evil and all conservative ideals are good is just as ignorant as asserting that all ideological conservative ideas are evil and everything progressive is without moral blemish.

    THINK about what you are saying first. Being able to admit to and accept our human shortcomings takes strength and is not a sign of weakness.

    Please remember that!

  • james warren

    Sorry to be blunt: Trump won the presidency, despite famously saying that the Electoral College is “rigged.”

    Hillary lost the presidency, even though more millions of Americans voted for her instead of
    Trump.

    I have not yet seen any evidence yet that has changed my mind. Name-calling and mockery of Hilary or Trump is not the kind of information I accept.

  • james warren

    So because America has many bedrock socialistic ideas, that then means we are socialist?

    Don’t be ridiculous.

    “Out of many, one” is also a good definition of American socialism. Out of the insurance payments of many comes operations that save lives and families.

    Out of our taxes highways are built even though not all of us have cars and drive.

    Out of the fees we all pay comes the luxury of
    libraries where all people can have easy and equitable access to knowledge.

  • james warren

    What makes me angry is childish and disrespectful and violentbehavior towards others.

    That’s how I was raised and I take my small-town values seriously.

    I am an American who believes in human rights, dignity as well as liberty and justice for ALL.

  • james warren

    Trump cannot let it go and you, obviously being a follower, cannot either.

    Are you aware that the “popular vote” is a helpful legitimate standard that statistically accounts for the complexity and data that emerge from our election process?

    Trump has said many things that he suddenly disagrees with the next day. Our allies abroad have made up their minds to largely ignore him because he is “less than candid.”

    ***Trump is president.
    ***Hillary is not.
    ***Trump won only through the Electoral College system, which he had previously claimed is “rigged.”
    ***Hillary garnered almost three million additional votes than Trump purely based on the fact that more American citizens voted for her than they did Trump.

    What I find perplexing is that folks like you cannot let these facts go. And neither can Trump.

    I may be wrong, but it seems to me this all comes from a deep well of out-of-control emotion and a feeling of being disrespected by the world.

    Whatever it is, it is certainly not based on facts.

  • james warren

    You are reading with inattention and to confirm your own ideological anger.

    Any native speaker of English can easily count on two hands the number of times I have accepted the Electoral College’s role in the election.

    I am still waiting for you to acknowledge that according to the data and statistics, more citizens voted for Clinton than Trump.

    Sadly, however, you cannot. And that is just plain weird in my view. I am TOTALLY able to tell the statistical truth and to still maintain a respect for both sides of the matter.

    Let go and let life go on. Good Lord! There is no excuse for this level of victim hood you are playing out.

    The repeated reference to these facts is not to make you “wrong.”

    I am simply giving you information. And based on that information, you should make your own best choice.

  • james warren

    Hey:

    Let’s try this AGAIN:
    Trump is president.
    Hillary is not.
    Trump won through the Electoral College system.
    Hillary won the popular vote.

    You seem to be afraid of the phrase “popular vote” and what it means.

    I am unafraid to accept all sides of the truth of the 2016 Election.

    I do not share the fatal ideological flaw you have. I rely on facts and evidence; you appear to believe that all facts and evidence have a liberal bias.

    You are AFRAID of the phrase “popular vote,” in my view. This is because you have not yet said Hillary won the popular vote and you are either unable or unwilling to say what the phrase means.

  • james warren

    The facts and evidence tell ME Trump won.
    The facts and evidence also tell me that Hillary’s popular vote total surpassed Trump voters by close to three million votes.

    If you can get beyond your immaturity and can honestly and bravely acknowledge and explain that Hillary supporters who voted out-numbered those voters who chose Trump I would at least better respect you–for you will be using facts instead of deep emotional pain.

  • james warren

    The fact that more American voters cast their ballot for Hillary is not “nothing.”

    And leading the vote my nearly 3 million ballots cast is massive, too.

    It’s not easy to confront one’s own contradictions, but once you learn to do that you will broaden your outlook and begin to see reality as more fluid than stagnant.

  • hd625b

    Bush new the capabilities of the intelligence community and he also knew that to commit a crime and get away with it, the evidence must be controlled.

  • mioahu

    I am saying that leftism is a cancer that has to be stopped, It will devour liberals and conservatives alike. Of course not all ideas of conservatism are great, and of course the republican party , who is the only flawed representation of conservatism we have, is far from being perfect. I have nothing against liberals, but liberalism is being taken over by leftism, and you guys are too blind to see it.

  • mioahu

    There is no contradiction anywhere else than in your mind (and the ones alike) Hillary won the popular vote. The president is the one who wins the electoral vote. Trump won the electoral vote, therefore , logically, he is our president. It is leftists and their useful idiots, which unfortunately i suspect you are one, who can’t accept that 🙂 I am pretty happy with the result, and will say as many times as you want that Hillary won the popular vote, which in the context of us elections means zip, and Donald Trump won the electoral vote, which means he is the president… can you guys accept that ? want me to write it again 🙂 ??? it is my pleasure indeed, mr Trump the president ahahahha

  • james warren

    I don’t think your superlatives are well-thought out at all.

    “…the worst candidate for President in [U.S. history.] and Obama being the “worst president in history” show no sense of historical reality–either present or past.

    Read up on Andrew Jackson, Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, Millard Fillmore, William Henry Harrison, John Tyler, Ulysses S. Grant, Zachary Taylor, or George W. Bush.

    There is a difference between historical fact and political opinion.

  • james warren

    If anything gets out of control–whether it comes from the left, the middle or the right–must be stopped.

    To insist that only one side or one movement can be cancerous is just an example of limited and sloppy thinking.

    I never want to get so arrogant as to fail to see and acknowledge my own blindness.

  • james warren

    Your immature mocking laughter aside, this matter has been in the news media even before the 2016 election.

    Trump had insisted the Electoral College system was “rigged” and that lie was immediately put to rest by the American Free Press.

    Trump could have easily garnered 24% of the total vote count and still won the presidency.

    Next time just post that “you and I have a difference of opinion.” There is no real reason to descend into a rage-fueled emotionalism.

    In the end, respect and dignity end up carrying the day.

  • Richard Schmidt

    Hilary will keep spinning until it ceased to sell.

  • dumbvet

    Also blame Willy Nelson, electric cars, election during wrong phase of the moon,ETC,ETC!

  • mioahu

    Trump said many things, and everybody with half a brain didn’t take it literally. Conservatives didn’t take him literally, but took him seriously. Libs like you didn’t take him seriously and took him literally. Guess who lost ?

  • mioahu

    Well, but you fail miserably at that. Leftism is the biggest threat to democracies, and there is virtually no danger from the right around the world. Leftism is engulfing Europe, South America and slowly, through useful idiots like you, the US (Mexico and Canada are on their way). The atrocities done by the few “right” governments pale in comparison to the murders in the name of communism, and to the misery and fear in which ALL citizens of communist regimes live. But I guess you don’t care about that from the comfort of your living room, in the United States of America. Only Capitalism has ever created wealth. I had enough now, you are too stupid. Bye

  • mioahu

    Liberal ideas are fine, as I mentioned many times. But the liberal days are gone, and you live in the past. Leftists are dangerous, and you are their useful idiot, as they take over the education system, the media, and politics. And it’s useful idiots like you who first fall victims, like many liberal professors on campuses are bitterly experiencing, when they are not left enough. Countless cases where they were forces to resign or bullied because they made a liberal point. Leftists will devour both liberals and conservatives, but you my friend are too blind. Maybe one day, but I actually pray that will never come, cause when you will understand, it will be too late .

  • mioahu

    I guess you didn’t go to a good high school… cause it seems you don’t know what the electoral college is about, and keep bringing up the popular vote, WHICH DOES NOT MATTER 🙂 I guess you are a complete idiot…what a shame. So which part of the electoral college did I not understand, you moron ? Or were you just blabbing , cause there was nothing else to do in mommy’s basement ?

  • james warren

    The latest poll numbers–as of Wednesday–show that 60% of Americans do not like Donald Trump.

    “Oh how I LOVE the poorly-educated!”
    “Two million more people just dropped out of Obamacare. It is in a death spiral.”
    “China will be allowed to build hundreds of additional coal plants. So we can’t build the plants, but they can, according to this (Paris) agreement.”
    Deals struck on his first foreign trip as president made and saved “millions of jobs.”
    “This Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should’ve won.”
    “Dems want billions to go to Insurance Companies to bail out donors”

    LIES.
    UNTRUTHS.
    OBFUSCATIONS.

    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/pants-fire/

  • james warren

    Anyone who actually believes and says that “Leftism is the biggest threat to democracies is just as addle-brained as those who say “Right-wing politics is the biggest threat to democracies.”

    Period.

    Thinking things through is not one of the things Trump supporters readily do.

  • james warren

    Liberal ideas are gone is just as silly as asserting that conservative days are gone.

    Think.

  • james warren

    You guess wrong. As an adult, all you need to do is be honest and ask me directly.

    Your mockery is cruel and puerile.

    Hurt people hurt people.

    I hope you do some serious thinking before you have children. Or if you already do, use your own childhood history to point you in the right direction.

    I took civics in both junior high and high school. I took political science in a university. I know full well what the electoral college is and what the popular vote is.

    I also know that Trump once bleated that the electoral college system was “rigged.”

  • james warren

    Saying stuff like “…the lefties always do” is just as silly as saying “…the righties always do.”

    Let’s go over it again:

    Words like always, never, every time, no one, every one are ALL imprecise words that have no place in focused communication between and among adults.

  • james warren

    Anyone who has paid the slightest attention to Trump for the past half-century know what he is like.

    We tried so hard to tell you in so many ways.

    Now just look at today’s White House being forced to follow the truth wherever it leads.

  • mioahu

    Yeah, he’s like your nightmare, dismantling Husseins leftist dream, we knew exactly what he was, that’s why we voted for him. You guys on the other hand had NO IDEA who he was. You took what he said literally and didn’t take him seriously, we took him seriously and didn’t take what he said literally … and you lost !
    OH, Trust me, i am looking forward to where the truth leads, and you will be surprised. It will lead to uncovering the criminal behavior of Clinton, Loretta Lynch, Comey , maybe Obama and many others who obstructed justice , lied, leaked , … It will show how ridiculous all the democratic circus in the house and senate is, and how irresponsible liars the press is, with the ridiculous russian collusion crap. Comey already indicted himself and Loretta Lynch when he admitted leaking memos and being told by Loretta to downplay the Hillary investigation, just after she met with Billy .., Sessions already destroyed the stupid questioning line of the lefties in the intelligence committee, And the supreme court will uphold the travel ban, cause the rulings by the leftist courts and judges are a disgrace. So yes, i can’t wait to see where the truth leads

  • mioahu

    Exactly, we are not socialist, AND THOSE ARE NOT SOCIALIST IDEAS. Again, go back to your post where you mentioned what the tenets of a socialist systems are, compare with what you said above and there, the beauty of logic, you are wrong according to YOURSELF :-). Hilarious

  • mioahu

    You hate violence ? You mean like the behavior on leftist campuses, where they riot, destroy property, and beat up conservative speakers,
    take over deans offices, ask white people to take a day off campus, declare all black regions ? Like ANTIFA, that riots and throws full coke cans, bottles, rocks at trump supporters, has manifesto for bringing weapons to antirallies ?/ Like BLM, who riots, supports killing of cops, kills cops, destroys property…like the bernie supporter who shot the republican congressmen today ? That violent behavior, that is all coming from the left ? That one you hate ? I do not remember a violent march from the right, interestingly…All the name calling racists, and all the other stuff always comes from the left as soon as you try to reason…empty words, my friend. You don’t like justice, you like SOCIAL justice…confused again…And again, a bit of logic…if you want liberty and justice, for sure you can’t support communism,,,but wait, you do …hmmm

  • mioahu

    Yeah, thanks for the great advice. My children are well, thank you, bright young men with accomplishments. Which probably can’t be said about you… It’s called PROJECTING, my friend.

  • mioahu

    POLITIFACT is heavily biased, so please stop pointing to that.
    Thing is, he’s not a politician, he says what he thinks. And people bend backwards to interpret everything as a lie, cause you leftist hate his guts and the fact that he crushed Hillary .
    He actually does love the poorly educated, he grew up working among them on construction sites.
    Obamacare is in a death spiral. Insurance companies are pulling out oif exchanges, There are counties which have NO company left in the exchange. Premiums have doubled at least. Obamacare IS imploding.
    The Paris agreement does not bind China to stop building coals plants, and they won’t…
    The Russia thing IS a made up story, to justify Clinton’s historic defeat, and the democrats shellacking, with the inability to take beck the senate or house.

    So yes, lies, untruths and obfuscations from the leftist media and politicians, and their useful idiots (we know who that is :-))

  • mioahu

    Liberal ideas are expressed mostly by conservatives these days.
    The democratic party has moved left, and left you behind I suppose.
    You are like Reagan who said ” I didn’t leave the democratic party, the democratic party left me”. You just don’t know it yet, but eventually you will grow up. And maybe think.

  • james warren

    Watch what Trump DOES, not what he says:
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/24/donald-trump/how-do-donald-trumps-first-100-days-rate-historica/
    Now, over 60% of Americans disapprove of the job he is doing.

  • james warren

    Of course she does. Trump’s Russia connection is bogus. Even though he admitted to it.
    The wheels of justice grind slowly….

  • james warren

    Most people actually believe there are two–and only two–ways to deal with conflict:
    1. Giving in or
    2. Fighting back
    During World War II, every time organized nonviolent resistance was used against Nazi Germany, it worked.
    In 1989-90 a dozen nations went through non-violent revolutionary change and it worked everywhere except in Red China.
    If we count all the nonviolent actions in the 20th century, more than 65% of the world’s population was involved.
    The nonviolence of Antoinette Tuff during a school shooting proved conclusively that nonviolence can be profoundly effective.
    I was able to successfully use nonviolence to confront a drunken gang of bikers who were making noise near our home one 4th of July.

  • james warren

    Trump said the electoral college was “rigged.”

    After the election, he said no more about the topic.

    Trump won the electoral college and thus won the presidency.

    The “popular vote” only reflects the number of Americans who voted for a specific candidate.

    Clinton received 65,844,610 votes, or 48.2% of the total vote.

    Trump received 62,979,636 votes, or 46.1% of the total vote. (That’s a difference of 2.86 million votes.)

    These are facts. This information is true. Just because Trump is still talking about his statistical win does not mean you and others have to.
    Trump is insecure in my view and just wants to be liked. This stance has caused a lot of problems for him vis-a-vi the investigation’s focus on possible obstruction of justice charges.

  • james warren

    What stops you from telling the facts and evidence on the matter?
    Did Hillary win the popular vote or not?
    It sounds like you are uncomfortable being investigated for obstruction of justice or something…

  • james warren

    I bring up the popular vote because it is a FACT. You guys operate from a place of deep, dank emotion instead of facts and evidence, so those of us who are curious, inveterate students of American history are not really surprised.
    It’s almost laughable as you continually insist I know nothing about the Electoral College. And that you say nothing about the popular vote and what it means.
    It’s a pattern. You are more transparent than you realize!

  • james warren

    If you treated your children anything like you have treated me, your children will only pass it on down to their own children.

    In the short term, corporal punishment and verbal abuse may produce obedience.

    But it is a fact documented by research that in the long term the results are inability to learn, violence and rage, bullying, cruelty, inability to feel another’s pain, especially that of one’s own children, even drug addiction and suicide, unless there are enlightened or at least helping witnesses on hand to prevent that development.

    If your children have such a “helping witness” such as a kind, open-hearted relative or friend, they will learn kindness and compassion from that person. That’s sometimes the best thing that can happen.

    It is not true that evil, destructiveness, sarcastic mockery , and perversion inevitably form part of human existence, no matter how often this is maintained.
    But it IS true that we are daily producing more evil and, with it, an ocean of suffering for millions that is absolutely avoidable. When one day the ignorance arising from childhood repression is eliminated and humanity has awakened, an end can be put to this production of evil.
    We are all responsible. Learn our own history and what really went on between ourselves and our parents.

  • james warren

    If you want more proof of what socialism actually IS and how it manifests itself in this country, let me know and I’ll be available.

    It is easy to learn the features and some examples of socialism and it is also easy to find those same features in our American system.

  • james warren

    If you cannot say what you think, that–in my view–is simply dishonesty.

  • james warren

    Life is more complicated and nuanced than we are led to believe. Simplistic either/or black/white formulations are neither compelling or persuadable in a global culture.

  • Mark Wynn

    I agree with everything in your comment. I only talk about the electoral college vote, and the fact that Hillary’s pure democracy vote advantage came only from CA and NYT … to correct the record when Democrats still claim she won the presidency.
    A pure democracy falls to a tyranny of a majority. Nations with pure democracy elections have ended up communist, socialist or theocracy … and once that happens their democracy is over, as the utopian regime assures they will never lose another election.

  • Mark Wynn

    I wouldn’t blame james, as the progressives that took over our school systems from K through grad school, starting in the 1950s don’t teach the value of the electoral college … or the Constituition, for that matter.

  • james warren

    I differ, I think, because I don’t believe we have a “pure democracy.”

  • mioahu

    Well if you know, stop bringing up the popular vote, cause it doesn’t matter in American elections, you lost, end of story.

  • mioahu

    HUH ? WHAT ? My point is that he is saying exactly what he is thinking, and that he is correct 🙂 I guess you just have to comment anything to have the last word, ok 🙂

  • mioahu

    Yeah, just not the ones you enumerated , and so aptly contradict everything you say. I guess you wanna have the last word, so it does not seem that you lost the argument, OK comrade 🙂

  • mioahu

    My children have a trait that you don’t have. They look at facts, admit when they are wrong, are willing to learn , are not brainwashed thank god, and are not demonizing others because of different views. You say I have treated you badly, look at your comments and see the number of insults you hurdled, admittedly using a “higher” language. So now you have lowered yourself like any reputable leftie to attack my children, since attacking me does not work, and you obviously have been destroyed in the debate :-).. seeing you bathing in the mud , spewing some pseudoscience psychology BS, is DEPLORABLE (yes, that word). Sorry for you, buddy. Adios comrade

  • mioahu

    A fact that does not matter in US elections. Like “The sun rises in the east”.. it’s a fact. It does not matter in US elections. And you fail to admit that if elections were decided based on popular vote, then candidates would have had different strategies and different people who abstained because they are in states of different ideology and can’t make a difference would have voted. So the popular vote means nothing in a electoral college election, because the numbers would be different if it would be a popular vote election, and neither of us knows what those numbers would be. So… logic again…sorry to bring that word up again and again. seems not to have an effect on your comments 🙂

  • mioahu

    Yes, Pocahontas, she won the popular vote, and it does not matter. She lost the electoral vote which matters in THIS country. As I mentioned many times, if the president would be elected by popular vote, candidates would have had different strategies, different people would have voted (like republicans in California and New York, and democrats in Texas) and the tally would have been totally different (and none of us knows who would have won). can we please stop this silly game now ? Ciao

  • mioahu

    So basically you agreed to everything I said, that most violence comes form the left, and saying that you are against violence when people with same ideology engage in almost all violence is like saying that you support the Nazis, but are actually against any kind of violence.. nice hole you dug yourself in. I didn’t see any reply to what I actually said. You are just blabbing again , and your lack of knowledge is actually impressive. So , let’s see how your comments rate on the truthometer and logicometer again 🙂
    1) Can you name one organized nonviolent resistance against Nazi Germany that actually worked and set Nazism back ? In my recollection , a very bloody war was fought to stop them… hmmmm…you must read history from an alternate universe
    2) a) those were all non violent revolutions of the RIGHT against leftist communist regimes. All leftist revolutions are violent and bloody.
    b) Not true.that they were all non violent …Romania went through a violent revolution, because the communist government would not acknowledge the fall of the soviet union and wanted to continue the red ideology.
    c) The reason that the revolutions were non violent was that actually the regimes in those countries were not truly communist, and were just playing along with the soviet union so they don’t get invaded and destroyed. So when the Soviet Union collapsed, they were pretty happy to return to normal capitalism, because communism was imposed upon them by the soviet Union, and it failed in every single one of them, destroying the economies and having people live in poverty and fear.
    I am happy that you stood up to those bikers, But the reason they did not kick your butt was probably because they were conservative, If you would have confronted a bunch of ANTIFA thugs , or BLM protesters, i bet the results would have been very different. Sad that you don’t see how your own life experience invalidates what you say and is proof of my point of view, it happened how many times now ? 🙂

  • mioahu

    Well, he does very well actually. He did more for dismantling the leftist dream than any other candidate would have done. So I don’t really care how many orders he signed, or how much actual legislation ws enabled.
    He rolled back tens of unconstitutional Obama executive orders, he named a guy who fought the EPA his entire life to run the EPA, he named a woman who fought for charter schools, her entire life to head the education department, he reversed the Obama Cuba policy, pulled back from the Paris accord, prayed in Jerusalem standing strongly with Israel, sent a message to the world that the era of impotence is over by actually enforcing the red line cowardly established and ignored

  • mioahu

    He, he does very well, and it drives you leftists nuts. he is dismantling the leftist utopia of Hussein. He did more for conservative ideas than any other candidate would have done. let’s remind you of some of the actions you lefties love
    1) he named an originalist on the supreme court, not allowing the leftist to tile the balance
    2) he named a guy who fought the EPA as head of the EPA
    3) he name a woman who fought for charter schools as head of the education department
    4) he withdrew from the Paris accord
    5) he rescinded the CUBA deal
    6) he reversed tens of unconstitutional executive orders by Hussein Obama
    7) he enforced the red line cowardly established and then ignored by Obama in Syria
    8) he prayed in Jerusalem, reinforcing our ties to israel
    9) he started to punish sanctuary cities for ignoring federal law
    10) he started dismantling the collapsing Obama Care
    i can go on an on, and I am sure you enjoy reading all these AHAHHAHA (but don’t worry, he didn’t accomplish anything)

  • Mark Wynn

    We have a pure democracy (one citizen one vote) in most elections except the presidential election. There, we have a pure democracy at the state level, that elects electoral college representatives who cast their votes for president.

  • james warren

    Trump won the presidency according to the Electoral College. And he won it in spite of his public pleas that the Electoral College system is rigged.

    AND, Hillary won the popular vote–which had nothing to do with winning or losing the presidency.

    All it means is that nearly 3 million American voters cast their ballots for Hillary instead of for Donald Trump.

    Let go of it.

  • james warren

    He said he was not under investigation, but today he tweeted that he was.

    He said the coming health care bill was a good bill. This week he called it “mean.”

    He promised us that he would rarely leave the White House “because there’s so much work to be done,” Trump said. “I would not be a president who took vacations. I would not be a president that takes time off.”

    “You don’t have time to take time off,” Trump adds.

    He plays golf every weekend in either Florida or New Jersey.

    It costs us taxpayers more than 3 million dollars for every trip.

    Try to blame Obama on this one!

  • james warren

    The last word:

    The military, police and fire departments, insurance pools, our highway system, our libraries, etc. are socialistic!

    Oh, the horror!

  • james warren

    I know full well what values you have. You call names, you dodge the subject when things get too close.

    Hell, I don’t think you are capable of admitting that Hillary won the popular vote.

    Your children will turn out the same. That’s how it works, dad.

    Contempt is your weapon and it is the weapon of the weak and a defense against one’s own despised and unwanted feelings.

    The grandiose person is never really free; first because he is excessively dependent on admiration from others, and second, because his self-respect is dependent on qualities, functions, and achievements that can suddenly fail.

    You have been damaged. No one who is open-hearted, curious and kind to others acts like you do in these forums.

    The more we idealize the past and refuse to acknowledge our childhood sufferings, the more we pass them on unconsciously to the next generation.

  • james warren

    I challenge you to show ONE TIME you have even hinted any liberal idea is fine.

    One time.

  • james warren

    You can’t try to do ANYTHING. You either do it or you don’t.

  • james warren

    Or critical thinking, Or collaborative problem-solving skills. Or mediation and negotiation skills. Or nonviolent communication. Or American history. Most of the schools that get the money very often teach civics and political science.

    After the 2012 elections, House Republicans promised to read the constitution on the House floor. They left some amendments and whole sections out. It was embarrassing.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/06/AR2011010603759.html

  • james warren

    How would YOU determine how many voters voted for the two candidates.

    Is “popular vote” one of those horrible, disturbing words like “communism”?

    It “doesn’t matter”?
    Really?
    Hmmm. I wonder why it’s in the dictionary?
    What do YOU think?
    Silly game, eh?

    You know better. It seems to stick in your craw just as the inauguration crowds did.

    You AND Trump.

  • james warren

    I agree with everyone. All human behavior has good intentions. I cab readily find the kernel of truth in ANY criticism. I love nothing better than to have my comfortable little rug ripped out from under me,

    I have always been able to see both sides of any issue and because human beings make the arguments, I would be less than candid if i said I can understand completely why someone else thinks the way they do.

    I have worked as a mediator to help disputants use safe, nonviolent and respectful language to each other. I don’t throw out solutions, Mediation helps people come to their own agreement.

    Years ago at my daughter’s preschool I learned how to mediate a common solution to problems between two hysterical four-year-olds.

    Good communication is like a lovely spring rain!

  • james warren

    As long as we keep money in politics, there is no “purity.”

  • james warren

    Donald Trump certainly can’t. He even brought it up with the Prime Minister of Australia, Michael Turnbull. He was also the guy Sean Spicer kept calling “Trumble.”

    “Oh how I LOVE my poor information voters!”

  • mioahu

    well, that’s his problem, and the ones who can’t seem to let it go are you leftists and Hillary. This defeat will haunt you forever. It’s probably because of global warming though !!!!! AHAHHAHA

  • mioahu

    I have no doubt you are a good person

  • mioahu

    See, I am trying to have a decent communication, but you completely ignore what I say , although it is completely accurate and logical. So a decent communication is useless with people like you, who can’t acknowledge simple truths. so I am done here, you are unable to understand

  • mioahu

    well, with you I can only try, cause you are obviously incapable to understand most basic concepts and logic, and the truth. Ciao

  • mioahu

    The idea that race does not matter, a liberal idea, is excellent. However, that has become a conservative idea today. Conservatives want to treat black people like anybody else, while progressive leftists want to make them feel victims, think they are dumber than anybody else and cannot get id’s to vote, think they need to give them special treatment for admissions cause they are not smart enough, encourage race separation by supporting all black dorms, all black graduations, you want me to go on ?
    Freedom of speech is a great liberal idea, but it’s conservative now. The left and the progressive are trying to shut down free speech, under the pretense that it is hate speech, from conservatives invited on campuses and beat up or shouted down, to boycotts of conservative shows, programs, actors, radio show hosts, to violent counter demonstrations.
    So there you go, I can give you more !

  • mioahu

    You know nothing, actually, literally. And the only one dodging the subject ALWAYS is you, aside from contradicting oneself , and posting comments that disprove their own comments , having historical facts wrong and unable to understand basic logic. So good luck with your pseudo scientific psychological blabber, i thinks that’s it, you might be a failed psychologist, pretending to be a scientist , like other psychologists, burdened with a napoleonic complex ….You are hilarious in your stupidity, you know nothing about me, and i have only pity for failed intellectuals like you. You are an idiot, it has been proven in all your contradictory posts, bye now.

  • mioahu

    I don’t care. I care about the fact that he dismantles the wet Obama leftist dream with every gold stroke. U know the old saying, don’t do what the priest does, do what he says. Your obsession with Trumps character is hilarious. We didn’t elect him for who he is, but for what he does.

  • mioahu

    Yeah, please, do not mention critical thinking, cause i have rarely seen a person more confused than you , contradicting himself more often, and being totally incapable of simple logic. I pity those guys you “help” solve problems. And your mediation and negotiation skills seem pretty weak, almost nonexistent, cause you haven’t really mediated or negotiated anything here, you pretty much got destroyed in all arguments. As for trying to read the constitution, at least they tried, as opposed to leftists democrats who think to be patriotic is embarrassing and to waive the american flag is offensive. I am truly disgusted. I hope you are more successful in your job than on these forums, otherwise it is pretty sad

  • Mark Wynn

    Especially if that money is in the form of dole from a socialist/progressive elite government. Once we reach a tipping point of voters on the dole we are doomed to suffer the fate of other socialist and communist nations.

  • Mark Wynn

    That was the dumbest, fake-news article I’ve ever read in WaPo, and that takes in a lot of fake news. So, this wonk writes that the Republican Representatives “left out” things that were long ago amended out of the Constitution! Where was this writer’s “critical thinking?”

  • james warren

    Donald Trump is insecure. That’s why he keeps bringing up the election. That is why several who work in the White House say he watches FOX “News” most of the day and rages and yells at the screen.

    Hillary was defeated but I am the kind of person who does not dwell on defeats once I have done some critical thinking about them.

    I am happy to be happy. I don’t have to keep spewing the sadness of my childhood on others.

    My mother scraped my penis with an “orange stick” at least once a month during puberty. But when I reached maturity I discovered her intentions were good.

    And that ALL human behavior is driven by good intentions.

  • james warren

    I look within and do many searching inventories on myself. I am unafraid to do so. To me, it’s the moral thing to do.

    If you think I am a “good person” then think again. I have done much that is less-than-good that has resulted in bad consequences.

    “For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do–this I keep on doing.”
    –Paul in Romans 7:19

  • james warren

    As long as you are unable or unwilling to confront my views on American socialism no helpful exchange will be useful.

    Again, here are 75 examples of socialism in America and how they have made us stronger:

    75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/29/1078852/-75-Ways-Socialism-Has-Improved-America

    Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability.

    Sounds horrible, huh?

    Well I hate to be the one to tell you, but Socialism, which you have been told to fear all your life, is responsible for all this…

    1. The Military/Defense – The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.

    2. Highways/Roads – Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one’s use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany’s autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That’s right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.

    3. Public Libraries – Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.

    4. Police – Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?

    Read these numbered points with a critical eye and show how they are not true. But use facts and rational data–don’t get tapped into emotion or rage.

  • james warren

    I keep waiting for objective facts, not artful dodges made with emotion.

  • james warren

    Denial of racism is the new racism.

    Apparently, something about the statement “Black Lives Matter” makes conservatives uncomfortable.

    Why is that?

    Now some white people might say that singling out Black people’s lives as mattering somehow means that white lives don’t matter. Of course, that’s silly.

    If you went to a Breast Cancer Awareness event, you wouldn’t think that they were saying that other types of cancer don’t matter.

    If you think that “Black Lives Matter” means that black lives matter and white lives don’t, we’re having a misunderstanding.

    If I say “White privilege is real and it means White people have some unearned social advantages just because they’re White”
    and you think I mean, “White privilege is real
    and it means White people should be
    ashamed of themselves just because they’re
    White”
    We’re having a misunderstanding.

    If I say “we have a problem with institutionalized racism in our legal system”
    and you think I mean “we have a problem with
    everyone in our legal system being racist”
    We’re having a misunderstanding.

    If we are having these understandings, where are they coming from and what can we do about them?

    Let’s just talk about it then.

  • james warren

    The writer was familiar with the constitution. The GOP were willfully ignorant of the document. Calling him a “wonk” is probably true. Most average legislators actually know very little about American history.

    I think you really resent the phrase “critical thinking.” It is actually a valuable tool for studying politics in America.

    By the way, the GOP skipped section 4 of Article IV as was a part of Article V.

    The part that declared blacks to be three-fifths of a man was also skipped [the 13th Amendment].

  • james warren

    You are saying that the popular vote does not matter and that Hillary did not win it.

  • james warren

    Why do FOX “News” broadcasters talk over the liberal guests? And women?

    I don’t think that’s freedom of speech.

  • james warren

    I don’t blame you for voting for Donald Trump. Many of you feel like strangers in your own land. You have felt disrespected by people with more schooling than you. You have gotten to the point where you shut out facts. You feel like the working man has gotten a raw deal.

    I am afraid that you will be the ones who suffer the most.

    We need to accept that the Trump promise to help the everyday worker was a con.

    You may remember Trump’s closing ad of the campaign, in which he said, “Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American people” over images of Wall Street, piles of money, financiers like George Soros, and other symbols of established power and wealth.

    “It’s a global power structure,” he went on, “that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth, and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities.”

    So in order to take on that global power structure, Trump is hiring a bunch of billionaires and Wall Street tycoons, cutting taxes for corporations and the wealthy, scaling back regulatory oversight of Wall Street, and offering an infrastructure plan that consists mostly of tax breaks to corporations to encourage them to build projects that they’ll then charge the public tolls in order to use.

    All of these are backed by facts–objective facts that are clear to anyone who reads them.

    There is no irrational emotionalism, name-calling and other childish personal insults.

  • james warren

    You’re making me confused.

    On one hand, you say that progressives took over schools and so civics and political science and our electoral college system is not taught.

    Yet I attended public schools in Wyoming and Utah and learned all about the electoral college.

    So you need to decide what you are really trying to communicate here.

  • james warren

    Facts do not matter–especially if they contradict one’s beliefs.

  • james warren

    What are you so angry about?
    Why the insults and the meanness?
    Where is your adult control here?
    What prevents you from just saying “I get angry when you say_____.”

    When GOP congressman Joe Wilson shouted “YOU LIE!!!” to interrupt the president during the State of the Union address, he was finally forced to apologize.

    “I guess I let my emotions get the better of me,” he said.

    Exactly.

  • james warren

    The sun does not rise in the east. It’s the earth turning toward the sun.

    You are quite logical in your explanation of the electoral college. But it is not logical, in my view, to accept the idea of the popular vote.

    I accept both. Understanding each allows me to know much more than deniers do.

    Who garnered the most votes from individual American voters?
    Who lost the electoral college?
    Why did Trump claim that system was “rigged”?
    Why is it so hard to state the truth: more voted for Hillary than Trump?

  • james warren

    Trump won the presidency according to the Electoral College. And he won it in spite of his public pleas that the Electoral College system is rigged.

    AND, Hillary won the popular vote–which had nothing to do with winning or losing the presidency.

    All it means is that nearly 3 million American voters cast their ballots for Hillary instead of for Donald Trump.

    Let go of it.

  • james warren

    I know that progressive values are becoming more compelling and persuadable. Even the GOP is starting to count their blessings brought to them by progressive values. As the world gets smaller, it’s the pragmatic and workable ideas that will survive.

  • james warren

    “…not addressing any of the points I make related to the electoral college or any fact that I mentioned about.”

    Trump won the presidency according to the Electoral College. And he won it in spite of his public pleas that the Electoral College system is rigged.

    AND, Hillary won the popular vote–which had nothing to do with winning or losing the presidency.

    All it means is that nearly 3 million American voters cast their ballots for Hillary instead of for Donald Trump.

    Let go of it.

  • james warren

    Trump is not a harsh reality. I have been following him for 20 years. He is a lewd braggart who is as often as not “less than candid.”

    I have survived a lot growing up in America. As well as overseas.

  • james warren

    To negotiate or mediate requires both parties to want to use the techniques. They don’t work otherwise.

    When I worked with end-stage cancer patients and their families I soon realized that helping these folks was the worst thing I could do.
    I learned how to slow down and stay in the moment with them and deal with whatever came up. Even death.

    The American flag is a swath of colored cloth.

  • james warren

    I want my elite government to plow the streets, maintain parks, give me police and fire coverage, etc.

    We will surely suffer our own fate as well. The income inequality is doing real damage, as is the lack of money allocated for the poor such as trained police, access to voting, and better schools.

    Any careful reader of history knows full well that capitalism is suffering from instability and inequality.

    The Great Depression and the Great Recession since 2008, plus eleven “downturns” in the US between those two global collapses proves my point.

    Each time, millions lost jobs, misery soared, poverty worsened and massive resources were wasted.

    Leaders promised that their “reforms” would prevent such instability from recurring.

    Those promises were not kept.

    Reforms did not work or did not endure.

    The system was, and remains, the problem.

    Thanks to Occupy Wall Street most people are now familiar with the one per cent and the 99 per cent.

  • Mark Wynn

    Food for thought. Thanks. My observation is that socialism and other utopian theories sound great! … but fail in practice. A rich, privileged elite remains (now connected to the ruling government), the middle class suffers a lowered quality of life, and the poor become poorer, and everyone loses their individual rights and freedoms. Capitalism is the worst economic system … except for all others.
    “Socialist policy is abhorrent to the British ideas of freedom. Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the object worship of the state. It will prescribe for every one where they are to work, what they are to work at, where they may go and what they may say. Socialism is an attack on the right to breathe freely. No socialist system can be established without a political police. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance.” —British Prime Minister Winston Churchill in 1945

  • Mark Wynn

    I’ll stand by my observation. If you learned why the electoral college was considered essential by our Founding Fathers (to protect against a tyranny of the majority that they’d observed from history) then bless your Wyoming and Utah school teachers. Do you think New York and California teachers taught the benefits of the electoral college?

  • Mark Wynn

    James, what does our CURRENT Constitution read? Why would someone fault Republicans from leaving out obsolete stuff that was long ago amended out of the Constitution. I hope you’re not just being contrary.

  • Mark Wynn

    The popular vote decides most elections in the U.S. except the presidential election.

  • Mark Wynn

    You have many solid arguments, james, but that old argument that our military, police and fire departments make us “socialist” is bogus. Sorry.

  • Mark Wynn

    I just watched Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday. He grills Republican guests even harder than he does Democrat guests. Shepard Smith, same …. O’Reilly used to talk over guests but he’s gone. If you want examples of moderators talking over, interrupting and “lecturing” to guests, watch MSNBC and CNN.

  • Mark Wynn

    This “socialist” narrative is widely quoted (by socialists), but is just plain false, james. It would be like saying Saddam’s army, police and fire departments meant Iraq was socialist.

  • james warren

    I was raised to be thankful that our socialist system helped my dad go to college on the G.I. Bill. I breathe freely when an indigent child in a hospital can have his open-heart surgery taken care of. I breathe freely when our Wyoming neighborhood streets were maintained in the winters. I breathe freely when I don’t have to take our garbage to the dump and can rely on our city to collect garbage twice a week.
    I was raised with caring, fairness and respect. I was taught to see the good in everyone and learn that good intentions lie behind every human behavior.
    That’s just how it is with me.
    It’s why I worked in oncology with end-stage cancer patients and their families–many of whom could never afford the expensive chemo and diagnostic facilities.

  • james warren

    In my poly sci and civics we learned how to research an issue, to work collaboratively, to think from multiple perspectives, and to write persuasive arguments.
    A quick look at some of the contributors to many of these forums tells me that most schools don’t even teach these subjects. I think the damage is done.
    A lot of people play the victim when they are confronted by science, the academy, scholars or people with some higher education under their belts.
    In my opinion, the dichotomy comes from the country bumpkin-city slicker type of American mythology. And the unwillingness to learn new things does not help very much….

  • james warren

    I guess I just believed the GOP. I trusted them.
    I remember many legislators reading the document from their pocket copies. If you have one of these copies, take a look at it and see what it actually says.
    I am sorry that you view disagreement or another opinion as “contrary.” What prevents us from just seeing as a different perspective?

  • james warren

    All I am saying is that America has many socialist features that have and continue to serve us well.

    Every day at dawn, a bugle sounds and members of our military wake up for another day.
    These are brave men and women of different races and backgrounds who rise as one–united by a common cause. They march in formation, keeping in step by their own voices joined in song.
    They leave their communal housing arrangements and “toil in the field.”

    While they are out doing their day’s labor, their young are cared for in subsidized childcare programs.
    If they hurt themselves on the job, they can count on universal health care.
    The fenced-in military bases you drive past on your way to work or see on the TV news, are examples of a successful experiment in collectivization–that has been going on for years.
    What’s bogus?

  • james warren

    Rather than leaving each individual responsible for protecting their own home from fire or crime, everyone pools their money together, through taxes, to maintain a fire and police department.
    Fire departments operate under a non-profit status, and yes, your tax dollars pay for putting out other people’s fires.
    It seems absurd in my view to think of some corporation profiting from putting out fires.
    But it’s more efficient and far less expensive to have government run fire departments funded by tax dollars.

  • james warren

    Rachel Maddow’s show has felt an incredible explosion of viewership, beating out news rivals consistently.
    Now that more of Trump’s base is finding out what’s in the political winds these days, her numbers can only get bigger.
    Women are often interrupted. I have seen this happen so much I am getting very sick of it. You will find that happening often on cable networks, except from maybe, FreeSpeech TV.
    Chris Wallace’s father was Mike Wallace. He was another broadcaster who was unafraid to follow the truth wherever it led. I pay close attention to FOX “News” and have done so for 15 years. Chris Wallace knows politics and has no use for adolescent name-calling or blaming Hillary and Obama.
    I also watch FSTV, Al-Jazeera, BBC, Newsmax and ABC {Brian Ross is an outstanding investigative reporter].
    It drives my wife crazy but I do not want to ignore any news.

  • james warren

    The Ba’ath Party was socialist. The people of Iraq under Saddam Hussein enjoyed many socialistic programs. In fact, Saddam himself said he was a socialist.
    No nation is ALL socialist or ALL capitalistic. Reality is much more complex and nuanced than facile generalizations.

  • Mary

    Yah, and most of those were voting illegally.

  • james warren

    Mary, show us the evidence, please. Ya?

  • Guest4ever

    ROFLOL!!!! Does she REALLY believe this? OHMYGOSH, that is too funny, stupid, and arrogant!

  • Guest4ever

    No need to take God’s name in vain over Killary! Thank you.

  • Guest4ever

    And that’s the SHORT list!

  • Guest4ever

    ROFLOL! Seriously? Lame stream media as a source?

  • Guest4ever

    Good one!!!

  • Guest4ever

    That about says it (almost) all.

  • Guest4ever

    It’s the international bankers behind ALL the evil and misery in the world!

  • Guest4ever

    Your dad EARNED his college education because of his service to his country.

  • james warren

    I can learn new information from everyplace. I am lucky to be curious, critical and an inveterate reader. I don’t let talking points or ideology determine my sources.

  • james warren

    Show me.

  • james warren

    Who paid for it?

    We did.

  • james warren

    Inequality.

  • james warren

    All “winning the popular vote” means is that she garnered more votes from American citizens than Trump did.

    It does not mean she won the election–just that a majority of voters chose her over Donald Trump.

  • Mark Kukoda

    Apparently, Nancy’s astrologer offered much better intelligence then Hillary’s spirits.

  • james warren

    What about Iran-Contra? Selling arms to Iran to pay for U.S. illegal wars?

    AQUARIUS:
    [January 20-Febrary 18]

    You are an emotional roller coaster. Or an emotionless roller coaster. You are probably half naked just wandering. You often have no idea what you are doing. Super duper funny. You hold grudges for a year.

  • james warren

    Show me where I said “It’s Bush’s fault”?

    That’s an evaluation; a judgement; an opinion.

    Let’s get away from emotionalism and blame and look at the facts.

    In August 20001, one month away from the 9/11 tragedy, Bush was on vacation at his Waco, Texas ranch. That day he was handed his usual PDB [Presidential Daily Briefing] from his staff.

    The title of the briefing read:

    “Bin Laden determined to attack U.S.”

    After listening to the briefer, Bush reportedly replied, “All right. You’ve covered your ass, now.”

    We know what happened a month later.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html

    For almost two years, , Republican strategists, political pundits, reporters and Americans who follow them have been pursuing Hillary Clinton’s personal email habits.

    But no evidence of a crime has been found.

    But now they at least have the skills and interest to focus on a much larger and deeper email conspiracy, one involving war, lies, a private server run by the Republican Party and contempt of Congress citations—all of it still unsolved and unpunished.

    For ignoring congressional inquiries and subpoenas, the Bush administration was held in contempt for justice.

    http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy

  • james warren

    One of the important elements of critical thought is to be able to hold in one’s mind completely opposite issues.

  • james warren

    What defeats you folks is the putrid and cruel name-calling from the pie hole of a childish adolescent. Instead of using facts and data to support immature and disrespectful claims you enter into a place of dank and rage-filled emotionalism and blame.

  • james warren

    Study American history much?

  • james warren

    Hillary lost the election. Let it go,

    The only thing “winning the popular vote’ means is that Hillary garnered more votes from American voters than Trump did.

    And that’s ALL it means.

  • james warren

    We don’t have pure democracy, nor will we ever.

  • james warren

    It does not matter where the money comes from. Koch brothers or PACs.
    It’s money in politics.

  • james warren

    Great Britain has many elements of socialism, particularly their health care system.

    Be not afraid.

  • james warren

    The facts and evidence are what we should rely on, plus the dogged investigative reporting of Maggie Halberman and Glenn Thrush:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/21/us/politics/trump-obama-wiretapping-motivation.html

    Here’s the pattern culled from Trump’s own words:

    Border wall —? base likes —-? base is big —-? Democrats have an edge in electoral college —? it’s a big edge —-? I thought I would win the popular vote —-? I won the electoral college —-? My base wants to see the wall.

    Here’s more to a reporter who asked Trump NOTHING about the election:

    Reince Priebus is doing a good job —? the political environment is difficult but it’s not my fault —? Democrats should have won —-? New York and California are very Democratic states —-? Abe Lincoln —? Electoral college favors Democrats —? Clinton should have won –? I got outspent —? I won —-? I won by more than people thought.

    The point is: Dwelling too much in the past makes you a prisoner of the past.

    Trump won a historic upset. No question. But, now he’s president.

    How he got elected — and how no one called it — is now less relevant than what he plans to do in the office.

    As of now, no major legislation from his agenda has passed. This is worrying and is a sign of executive trouble.

  • james warren

    Again, you are saying the popular vote does not matter and that Hillary did not win it.

    Right?

    How many voters voted for Trump and how many voted for Hillary?
    If you are unable to find the answer, let me know. I can find it and then we can go over it together.

  • james warren

    But my schools and my teachers were not ideological. They also taught us about the popular vote.

    This is why the recount of Florida’s Gore voters was halted by SCOTUS. The result would have been an inconvenient fly in the ointment for the GOP.

  • MILES E DRAKE

    It is unfortunate that those of us who support President Trump and opposed his defeated opponent cannot engage in reasoned and logical discourse like the Bernie Bro who brought a carload of assault weapons and a list of Republicans he intended to murder. Nevertheless, it is good to see the paid Soros and Clinton trolls using words other than the f-bomb, even if they are terms of personal abuse.

  • Mark Wynn

    Great … that was all accomplished under the USA’s capitalist economic system, and a Constitution that ensures individual rights and freedoms.You continue to use “socialism” in ways that are not commonly acceptable in dictionaries or political science circles. http://www.diffen.com/difference/Capitalism_vs_Socialism

  • flpbpress

    You’re right. We have a “constitutional republic.” This was known back when the Pledge of Allegiance was written “. . .and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands . . .”

    But the bottom line, is that, according to the rules by which we play, and which both candidates knew going in, Hillary lost. Period. End of discussion.

    Get over it

  • Mark Wynn

    Great Britain has a capitalist economy and expanded welfare programs. Same with the Scandanavian countries that socialists are always, erroneously, claiming are “socialist.”

  • james warren

    You’re absolutely right. Today the world is more pragmatic. We have what are called “mixed economies.” America can be categorized as a nation that embodies many key aspects of democratic socialism. China is both communist and democratic. Most of the socialist governments say that it was the ideals and example of America that inspired them to develop the government and culture that they have today.

    As far as what socialism is, I rely on the definition I learned in high school civics and political science classes I took in college. For me, I have to rely on a legitimate standard to work from.

    As with any complex political idea, socialism means different things to different people. But there are core concepts in socialist politics that are easy to identify:

    –worker control over the nature and conditions of their work.
    –collective ownership of the major capital assets of the society, the means of production.
    –an egalitarian distribution of the wealth of a society.

    If you are still having trouble with my examples of socialism in America, let me know in a respectful and decent manner which ones you feel are in error and we can certainly go over them together.

    I know there is a gap in many people’s knowledge of socialism. I know this because many people believed Obama was socialist.

    Bill Sammon, the Washington, D.C. editor of FOX “News” has freely admitted he made up the idea as a “joke” and was surprised at the traction the specious idea spread.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u6bKUz859Y

    The truth is Obama has never argued for such principles, and in fact consistently argues against them, as do virtually all politicians who are visible in mainstream U.S. politics.

    This is hardly surprising, given the degree to which our society is dominated by corporations, the primary institution through which capitalism operates.

    Obama was not only not a socialist, he was not even a particularly progressive capitalist.

    I always saw him as part of the neo-liberal camp that has undermined the limited social-democratic character of the New Deal consensus, which dominated in the United States up until the so-called “Reagan revolution.” There was nothing in his administration policy to suggest he planned to move to the left in any significant way.

    Obama asserted that the most successful economies were driven by free market principles:

    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2016/03/23/obama-on-socialism-versus-capitalism-just-choose-from-what-works/

  • james warren

    It is an interesting idea to assert that everyone [all 7.5 billion of us] have the same idea about the definition of any word like communism, fascism, etc.

    I guess I am still puzzled and surprised to still hear that coming from posters like yourself…

    I try to follow a legitimate standard when I use such words. I rely on the dictionary definitions–the classic meaning of a word. They are ways of organizing reality and everyone is going to do this differently.

    For example, the first modern fascist in the 20th century was the Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. He defined the word as a merger between government and big business. So it would be surprising if anyone failed to see this dynamic in our own system.

    And many of these words like socialism, capitalism, communism are leftover terms from the 19th century. They are pretty much bankrupt in our modern world.

    If you are still having problems understanding what my examples of American government still are, just bring up one or two of them and I will be more than happy to go over them with you.

  • james warren

    It’s better, in my view, to rely on the dictionary definition as well as a knowledge of history and economies as a standard to use as a bottom-line rule.

    You can certainly keep claiming that socialism has no definition beyond what you think it does [erroneous].

    What is missing from your personal opinion is the breadth and depth of the examples of socialism in today’s world. Everyone has the right to see things differently.

    Most ideologues I have read and talked with have a deeply emotional negative reaction to England’s version. Others know much about the standard and traditional definition of the word.

    Each definition and interpretation adds to the overall pool of meaning.

    Diversity [including people’s views on socialism] shows strength, not something to be afraid of.

  • james warren

    This is what I mean when I talk of “mixed economies.” Today, every country is not “ALL” communist, capitalist or socialist.

  • james warren

    “Fire is a liquid.”
    –Donald J. Trump

  • james warren

    The only thing you can trust is Donald’s own words.

    “[My campaign supporters] were mean, nasty and vicious.”
    “Oh how I LOVE the poorly educated.”
    “I will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it!”

  • james warren

    Again, show me where I posted “It’s Bush’s fault.”

  • james warren

    Capitalism includes socialism.

  • james warren

    Again, you still have not shown me where I posted “It’s all Bush’s fault.”
    What prevents you from presenting facts and evidence for your silly claim?

  • james warren

    Still haven’t seen any evidence yet from you that shows I ever posted “It’s all Bush’s fault.”

  • james warren

    Don’t worry about the popular vote. It didn’t count.

    ALL the popular vote means is that more Americans voted for Hillary than voted for Trump.

    That is true.
    That is a fact.
    That’s the case.

  • james warren

    Why are you ignoring THIS:

    Again *sigh* show me where I ever said “It’s all Bush’s fault”?

  • james warren

    The popular vote does not matter. ALL it indicates is that Hillary garnered nearly 3 million votes from Americans than did Trump.

    That’s all it means.

    Simmer down.

  • james warren

    Anything that has a possibility of allowing you to confront your own contradictions can be labeled “fake news.”

    You never have to prove it’s fake. All you have to do is say it is.

  • james warren

    Do you have enough thought to let me know where I posted “It’s all Bush’s fault”?

  • james warren

    All the “popular vote” means in 2016 is that Hillary garnered nearly 3 million votes than did Donald Trump.

    That’s ALL it means.

    Simmer down.

    Show me where I posted “It’s all Bush’s fault”?

  • james warren

    How about this fact?

    The popular vote in 2016 simply shows that Hillary Clinton garnered nearly 3 million votes than did Donald Trump.

    And after repeatedly claiming the electoral college system was “rigged,” Donald Trump won the most electoral votes.

  • james warren

    Again, let’s show me where I EVER posted “It’s all Bush’s fault”?

    I am not dodging the subject. You just wish I would.

    ALL “the popular vote” showed us this election was that Hillary received nearly 3 million more votes than Donald Trump did.

    All it shows is that more of this nation’s voters cast their ballots for Hillary Clinton, not Donald Trump.

    As one of the world’s most celebrated scientist and biblical scholar, I can say that I know this to be true.

    More than 60% of people believe this, even though I just made this statistic up.

  • james warren

    “I am a wise man because I know nothing.”
    –Socrates

  • Mark Wynn

    You’re wasting my time, here. I gave you links to the definitions of “socialism” and “capitalism” since you’re obviously confused as to the meaning of the political/economic term, “socialism.” You haven’t read them. Adios
    so·cial·ism1
    /?s?SH??liz?m/
    noun
    a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
    Powered by OxfordDictionaries · © Oxford University Press

  • james warren

    As with any complex political idea, socialism means different things to different people.

    I learned in high school civics and political science that there are core concepts in socialist politics that are easy to identify:

    Worker control, collective ownership of assets [of the the means of production]–AND an egalitarian distribution of wealth of a society.

    This tells us that our military, our insurance pools, police and fire, our highway system, libraries, some utilities, Social Security insurance and many other things we take for granted are based on a socialist model.

    It is an interesting idea that all economies and governments are monolithic and seamless. I guess I am just still surprised to hear that coming from YOU.

  • Mark Wynn
  • james warren

    Why would I be afraid to read the link?
    I am a curious and inveterate reader who is able to deal with two or more opposing thoughts and ideas in my mind.

    I saw nothing in the link that would contradict my posted points.
    In fact, the link actually says:

    “However, the truth is every developed country has some programs that are socialist.”

    And this nation is no different.

    Does that make sense to you? If not, I will be glad to illuminate the truth as I see it and we can go over it together.

  • james warren

    Hey, I dare you to acknowledge Crooked Hillary won the popular vote!

    And I dare you to tell me about that link on socialism you provided me that you accused me of not reading.

    The link said something you missed: all nations have some socialist elements, ‘Merica included!

  • james warren

    I said many times the popular vote does not matter.

    ALL it means is that Hillary received nearly 3 million more votes from Americans than Trump did.

    That’s a fact. It does not mean she won the election.

    Trump won and has the right to declare his inauguration crowds were the biggest in all of American history.

    But to be blunt, the more strange things happen the more journalists will ask questions.

  • mioahu

    You posted an article about the Bush White House losing way more emails than Hillary etc etc…unfortunately, it seems you are so confused you don’t even recall what you post 🙂

  • mioahu

    You posted an article about Bush allegedly losing emails, in response to the Hillary article. Classical leftie response, excuse bad behavior with bad behavior. At least you should remember what you post, but i guesS that’s too much to ask 🙂

  • mioahu

    It is a figure of speech, too sad you can’t figure that out… you posted an article about the bush white house losing emails , in response to the Hillary article. As always, libs can’t get over Bush and everything after Bush is somehow Bush’s fault…including all Obama’s failures

  • mioahu

    not when the opposite contradict themselves, then you are just confused, as I keep telling you

  • mioahu

    Am I supposed to keep track of your posts ? Can’t even do that right ? But since the post was not really original, and most likely copied from Wikipedia, here :
    Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production,[10] as well as the political theories, and movements associated with them.[11] Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective, or cooperative ownership, or to citizen ownership of equity.[12] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.[13] Social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.[5][14][15]
    There is no social ownership in any of the government activities that you keep mentioning.

  • james warren

    I am not surprised. Sometimes I think I am brain damaged!

    The other day my wife asked me to bring back a bunch of potatoes from the store. I ended up bringing home a bag of tomatoes!

    Can you believe such stupidity?

  • james warren

    I said nothing about Bush being at fault. I was trying to point out that his administration was found to be in contempt of congress for not providing the needed documents.

    Once you can look within and be accountable for your own mental and moral shortcomings, it will be easier for you to realize that no one or no group is all bad or all good.

    The Bush administration withheld the emails–perhaps deliberately. They were on a private server but they were never evaluated by investigators because they simply did not have them.

  • james warren

    The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth. Atomic physicists have known this since the 1920s.

    Opposites are complementary.

    So again, profound truths recognized by the fact that the opposite is also a profound truth, in contrast to trivialities where opposites are obviously absurd.

  • james warren

    I don’t usually keep track of my posts. I type pretty fast and think pretty fast. I apologize for my inability to go way back to a post, cut and paste it and then post it again for you.

    You feel frustrated.

    The military, for example, is paid for by the taxpayers and belongs to no one person or entity or corporation (in theory) and formed for the good of the general populace.

    We own our military and the social ownership that goes along with it. These days, the overseers of our armed forces are civilians that serve right along side our military leaders in making decisions.

    And if the conservatives are fine with having a large military to keep everyone safe from enemies, then why the reluctance to have the government protect us from our other enemies like disease (via socialized healthcare) and poverty (through social programs designed to help the poor)?

    More than 40 percent of Americans under the age of 30 view socialism favorably, according to the most recent YouGov poll.

    Positive responses among black Americans have ranged between 29 and 41 percent in recent surveys.

    A 2011 Pew Research Center poll that omitted the “undecided” option found that 49 percent of its young participants viewed socialism favorably.

  • james warren

    If you could be more specific, I think I would understand you better.

  • james warren

    –Capitalism has failed as well.

    –Corporations are too damn big.

    –And global corporations look down on and disdain the public.

    –Corporations are like outlaws. Millions of good jobs are either eliminated or replaced by low-wage jobs with poor or no benefits.

    –Global corporations have ravished the world and citizens of every nation live with the consequences: dirty air, foul water, and pollution of every sort.

    –Global corporations have angered the world community. In many parts of the world, a worker is not able to earn a living wage, have a bank account or drive a car, but can always obtain drugs, sex, and weapons. And while the world may not be one big village in terms of lifestyle, it shares an image of “the good life” that’s proffered in movies, TV, and the Internet.

    We live in interesting times. The good news is we’re witnessing the failure of global corporate capitalism. The bad news is we don’t know yet what will replace it.

  • james warren

    She did not win the presidency. The people who tell you she did are delusional.

    She only won “the popular vote.” ALL that means is that more voters cast their ballots for Clinton than they did Trump.

  • hap46

    Hillary was a bad candidate, thinking she could run on the coattail of her cheating husband. Ha ! Ha ! She was lazy and took for granted that many more illegals were going to vote in the Midwest states.
    Ha ! Ha ! GO TRUMP

  • Douglas Nutter

    move to china

  • Douglas Nutter

    all of you move to china just because your educated doesnt mean your smart why do you think evryone in the world wants to live in the USA ????? freedom !!! now move to canada or somewhere else thank you

  • james warren

    I think you are really, really angry. And that prevents you from engaging in a mature, adult dialogue.

    Too many Trump supporters come from a place of irrational emotionalism, fear and anger bordering on rage. And–like yourself–they are quick to make themselves the victim by believing they are being put down or disrespected by some sort of elite force.

    I prefer being challenged to learn new things by someone who is able to lose their childishness and their less-than-effective communication skills.

    If you can use facts, evidence along with a respectful manner, you will be better listened to.

  • Mikronos

    It was ‘shady fraud’ – the english language version of what Hilary Cinton, or Vladimir Putin, revealed herself to be.

  • GT90ford

    HRC has never taken blame in any of her illegal acts, but adding in the word, “schadenfreude” can be a double edged sword. The Schadenfreude in this instance, you are blaming others again, did you look the word up, or have someone write it for you? Simply put, the word “Schadenfreude means literally, “Pleasure derived by someone from another person’s misfortune.” You have a lifetime history of blaming anyone but yourself, Benghazi killings, you blamed a video (one which had been up for years before, made by Nakoula Basseley Nakoula) for the deaths of Ambassador Stephens and three soldiers. the she recommended the Destruction of Libya blaming Kaddafi, who was rebuilding a non-Sharia Democracy (I was there from ’78-’90), went back in 2013 and so much infrastructure done was unbelievable, it was as if I was at Club Med. I think Kaddafi was taken out for two reasons, one the Muslim Brotherhood did not like the non-Sharia, the other was Kaddafi had moved to the Gold Backed Currency. Hillary being at State knew Americans were there working, as well as Western E.U., but bombed with no warning to any of us. We were left to our own devices to escape and get back to our own countries. I managed to get 22 of us out. But Kaddafi had turned over all his WMD’s to Bush 43, paid Reparations to the Pan-Am Jet blown up over Lockerby, Scotland. Although he had found the Terror Group who had planted the bomb on the jet. He paid the victims families (three times what was being asked), and had become an Ally of the U.S. in the fight against Terror. Libya was about to be accepted into the U.N. This was not acceptable to BHO or HRC, the claims of his own soldiers were responsible for killing his own citizens was a lie, the killing had been done by the Muslim Brotherhood wearing new Libya Army uniforms. The film blamed for the deaths of our Americans mentioned above, keeps getting taken down, but is still on YouTube, the man who made the crappy film is an American-Egyptian Coptic Christian, it’s been added to, but at around 2:20 into the film is what was there reposted in 2012, the original went back to 2007, and only had 425 views, this one many have looked up and viewed after the blame game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmodVun16Q4&t=101s&bpctr=1501169249