tk is a liar a fraud and a feg.  i hope i meet you one day tk so i can put a bullet in your head.

Awwww, come on Tyler, we do not hurt the Mentally ill. <Smiling>

As for the Article: Dem Says Obama ‘We Inherited It’ Claim Stale

Boy is that the truth, it goes to prove how green Obama is, and his puppet Administration, only an idiot would claim such a thing especially after his renewal of TARP and Stimulus would stop the unemployment at 8%. Thus he made a statement on the economy, that made it his, and he is crying to get out from under that by blaming anyone but himself.

If he was so worried about the economy, why has he not worked on the economy instead of a Government Heath Care system NO ONE wants.

I would be surprised if it passes, even with the Nuclear Option, which I have NEVER heard of being used when you have a Super Filibuster Proof Majority of 60 votes. Which only proves he cannot control the Democrats in his own party.

Even when the Republicans put forth a document, which said: “If Government Heath Care passes, who will sign this document that the House, Senate, and all of Government would also go on the Government plan for the people, the Republicans all agreed they would if the Democrats would”. Only two Democrats signed the Document.

Good enough for the people who do not want it, but neither do the Democrats in power, or they would shut the hell up, and not approve it…

Re: Post 1;

What an a**hole you are!

(And the other mental midget here in Post 2 approves of your comment? – after he constantly protests that AIM should throw ME off for calling him a jerk ONCE!)
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AIM Moderator:

If AIM doesn’t throw sicko Tyler out for the “bullet in your head” comment – and keep him out – then AIM and its alleged posting policies are as hypocritical as some of the paranoid mental midgets and other muttering morons who post here.

In fact, AIM, you ought to use your IT powers to find Tyler’s real name and address – and report his sorry a** to his local police for felonious threatening with intent to kill.

And check Tyler’s earlier posts; they clearly infer a history of anger management problems and nasty name-calling.

Re: Post 2;

If you support the comment that “Tyler” made in Post 1 – even in jest – then you are every bit the intellectual, social and cultural retard that I have suspected you to be all along!

You can jerk around with all your simple-minded, juvenile and inane attacks on me in your often incomprehensible posts – but if you support ANYONE who would actually make the threat that appears in Post 1 – then you are more of an unmitigated loser than I ever could have imagined you to be!

AND – if you don’t clearly DISAVOW Post 1 here and now by posting your clear disavowal immediately – then the AIM MODERATOR ought to also kick your sorry a** out of here – paying member or not!

You either support minimum acceptable standards here – or you do not.  There is no middle ground.

The Obama administration clearly INHERITED a financial and economic meltdown due in great part to the incompetence of the Bush 43 administration – and in spite of the fact that repeating this truism may become “stale” – it is, nevertheless, the TRUTH and will remain so throughout history.

Additionally, Bush 43 engaged in deficit spending over his eight years in office to the tune of adding some $6 TRILLION to the national debt – more than doubling it!

While the Obama administration may not engineer a full recovery from this Great Recession – and might even adopt policies to cause it to become worse – Obama certainly had no part in creating it.  It’s wholly on the Bush 43 administration forevermore.

TK you show a lack of grasp of the facts.  Bush did have a part of the financial crisis, but it was a small part.  It started with Clinton and Janet Reno using thuggery on banks to get them to lend to people that weren’t qualified.  Then Obama’s financial advisers, who were in charge of Fannie May and Freddie Mac, robbed them and had them back hundreds of bad loans and then walked away, without criminal charges, with 10s of millions of dollars.  Also take into the fact that the last two years of Bush’s term the Dems were in control while Chris Dodd and Barney Franks and Nancy Pelosi covered for these people while they robbed the financial institutions blind.  Obama has quadrupled the national debt and created more debt than all previous presidents combined.  So the financial quagmire that Obama has, he and his Dems were largely responsible for.  So next time try discussing facts and quit name calling because it just shows how ignorant you are about things in general.

Re: Post 6;

You can hold whatever opinion you choose, whether factually grounded or not.

I disagree with you and my opinion and the information I base it on are not the same as yours.

This financial meltdown was based on the insufficiently regulated, 40-1 leveraged, and totally speculative sale and re-sale of mortgage-backed securities and credit default swaps on Wall Street – and had NOTHING significant to do with Janet Reno and the Clinton administration.

tk I apologize for making that statement.  Its never right to threaten people.  But in all honesty if I have to go to jail for it I will.  These issues are very important to me and many great Americans have died in wars defending this country.  Unfortunately it seems they died for about sixty years of freedom 1945-2008.  We just see things differently and you make up cable news numbers but thats no reason to threaten somebody.

What about the thermite in the world trade centers? Bush and crew should be shot on site. The fact that this can happen in the U.S.A. is enough reason that I left the fucked up united states for good.

Post 6:

Ozark_Sunshine,

Take a look at his past posts in threads, and you will see that he cannot help himself, he is a “Name Caller” and always will be, just as he will almost definitely call me a name after this or a future post, bet on it…

Post 9:

DEFINGER, you handle is exactly what should happen to you for making such a thoroughly stupid comment such as Blaming Bush for the WTC towers, the Architect who built both buildings said they were designed to fall straight down if a fire was hot enough to burn through the insulated steel. He also said if they had put another coating for the fire retardant had been added, the buildings would not have fallen. But he went on to say that the planes scraped off the insulation upon impact.

You also have to take into effect that each plane was full of JP-5 fuel, extremely hot burning once ignited.

YOU tell that to the families who were lost in the two WTC buildings, on the planes, in the Pentagon. They would beat you to death for saying such an ignorant thing. People like you should not be allowed to have access to a computer. In fact perhaps the FBI would be interested in your post, they have the power to stop you from ever using a computer again.

You are no American!

Your language will also be reported, it is not tolerated here, we are not one of your hate sites.

Post 7:

TK, the Economic melt down began due to a Credit Crises, and all the to Sub-Prime Mortgages, many given out to people who would not have the credit to get a buy a Timex watch.

We the taxpayers are the ones footing the bill for the $143 Billion for the Freddie Mae, Mac bail-out, or refer to the list of Taxpayer bail-outs:

AIG Received other federal aid. Insurance Company N.Y. $69.8 billion.
 
Bank of America Received other federal aid.  Bank (Public) N.C. $52.5 billion.

General Motors Auto Company Mich. $50.4 billion.

Freddie Mac Financial Services Company Va. $70.2 billion.
 
Fannie Mae Financial Services Company D.C. $73.1 billion.

General Motors Auto Company Mich. $50.4 billion.
 
Citigroup Received other federal aid. Bank (Public) N.Y. $50 billion.
 
Wells Fargo Bank (Public) Calif. $25 billion
 
Chrysler Auto Company Mich. $14.9 billion.
 
GMAC Financial Services Company Mich. $12.5 billion.
 
PNC Financial Services Bank (Public) Pa. $7.6 billion.
 
Bank of America, NA Mortgage Services Calif. $6 billion. 

Thirty-two banks have so far gotten the nod for $163.2 billion in taxpayer money.

Those amounts are no where near what was spent, just enough to keep them afloat, now the “Freddies” are lending sub-prime mortgages one again, while being held by our current Government…How does that happen??

What is missing from the master list is Goldman Sacks, they too are government owned, and a major player (as is AIG), their CEOs are working in concert with Obama.

Instead of Obama working on our economic situation, why is he so focused on Health Care, does it not make sense to get the economy working again, before we spend Trillions on an experiment which will affect all Americans negatively (except the government, who are exempt from his plan), I say good enough for all of us, buy not the people we elect to represent us?

Let us not forget, Obama has yet to fill 43 Cabinet positions, but he has Czars in their place, who do have to answer or be vetted by the House to be voted on by the Senate.

The Congress or any Government entity wrote the Cap and Trade bill (which as Obama has said on television, that once Cap and Trade (a misleading name, will raise utilities by 90%), they wrote the Bill for ObamaCare (NHC). More here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2319924/posts

They are also connected to the Tides Foundation (and other Tides names), both are associated with ACORN, the SEIU Union, CCI, all of which controls 343 known agencies, all who funnel monies to the various organizations.

When Glenn Beck first began exposing the ties, the White House paid a company to begin a Boycott on the Beck Show. All that did was to more than double his viewership. They are also connected to the Czars, one who is well known to police and the FBI. When Van Jones, our new Green Czar is an ex-con, and an admitted Communist, one must ask why would Obama want him working for the Government?

Re: Post 11;

SNAFUmeister;

Spread whatever tripe you want.  You continually display how much you don’t know and how blindly partisan you are.

The catalyst for the meltdown was what I said it was – and the biggest of the “credit crises” was AIG’s inability to financially make good on all the credit default swaps it had written to “guarantee” securitized mortgages of ALL TYPES. 

(Thus far, the LARGEST categories of defaulting mortgages are Prime and Alt A – and the various mix of mortgage-types of the long-term unemployed.  And, there is every reason to believe that mortgages held by “investors” and “flippers” have accounted for more mortgage defaults than have the so-called sub-prime loans.)

The list you present is composed primarily of financial services firms that the Bush 43 administration chose to assist with their TARP funds.  ONLY Chrysler and GM on that list were assisted by the Obama administration.

You only pretend to know.

Re: Post 6;

The ENTIRE financial services meltdown – 100% of it – is the fault of the Bush 43 administration – due, primarily, to insufficient, faulty and non-existent regulation – a legacy of Reagan and his Voodoo Economics.

YOU are the one evidencing ignorance of the facts – and mindless partisanship.

(And note: YOU started the name-calling – calling me “ignorant” in your Post 6.  So, cupcake, stuff your hypocrisy back up where that Ozark sun DON’T shine!)

There is no getting through to tk.  Its pointless to try.  I know for a fact that george bush tried to rein in fannie and freddie.  He was stopped by barney frank and chris dodd.  You haven’t heard that in the msm, but conservative media has reported it.  The housing bust has democraps finger prints all over it.

Re: Post 14;

Yeah, you “know it for a fact” – like you “know” I’m “a liar” and a “feg” (whatever the hell that is) and like your unbridled intellectualism, knowledge and understanding lead you to make the statement “… i hope i meet you one day tk so i can put a bullet in your head …”

You’re a mental and moral midget who apparently has little intellectual ability and definitely no emotional control.

AIM is hypocritical in its posting policies:  if they didn’t kick your sorry a** off after your Post 1 above – then ANYTHING GOES (at least anything goes as regards the “protected” rantings of a right-wing nutcase who makes the Mongol Horde look like a bunch of dreaded “Liberals”).

The only thing you “know” “Tyler” is how to exhibit uncontrolled motor-mouthed, gun-wielding and threatening rage against those who don’t think exactly as you do!  You’re pathetic!

Interesting that “TK” would use the term “motor-mouthed” on someone else. Do a word count on his arrogant bloviations as against everyone else’s and see what you get!

BTW, TK, turn anyone in on Obama’s “snitch” line lately?

Re: Post 16;

“Interesting” that you incessantly and ignorantly complain about me (instead of commenting on the topic at hand) even though you know absolutely nothing about me – but you also apparently approve of some a**hole who posts the following – “… i hope i meet you one day tk so i can put a bullet in your head …”?

Like “Tyler”, you’re just an unmitigated loser – and way too far down on the totem pole for most anyone to bother with.  (The term “pond scum” comes to mind.)

Cute. Unfortunately, I know more about you than I want.

I totally disagree with Tyler; we need you around as proof of what a cement-headed liberal is like.

You are entitled to your own opinions. You are not entitled to your own facts, as you apparently believe.

As for commenting on the topic at hand, somehow your own blather invariably has to lambaste Bush before you get on to anything else.

As for the topic at hand, it deals with Weiner the weiner and Afghanistan. You never mentioned either, hockey puck!

BTW, as for Weiner’s beloved “health care” plans, I notice any attempts at amendments to include Congress are voted down by the dems.

Any attempts to explicitly exclude funding for abortion from the plan are likewise voted down by the dems.

Imagine that!

Post 12:

You think I am wrong about Green Czar, Van Jones?

Speaking to the East Bay Express, Jones explained that as a young person he became further politicized in the wake of the Rodney King verdict. Jones was still a law student at Yale Law School at the time. While volunteering as a legal monitor during a peaceful protest in San Francisco following the Rodney King trial, Jones was arrested along with other legal monitors and some protesters. He and the other detainees were released after being illegally arrested; the charges were later dropped and Jones was financially compensated by the City of San Francisco’s Attorneys Office for the unlawful arrest.[17] In jail, however, Van Jones said,

“I met all these young radical people of color—I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, ‘This is what I need to be a part of.’ I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary. I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th. By August, I was a communist.”[18]

In 1994 the group of activists Van Jones was involved with Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM), a collective which “dreamed of a multiracial socialist utopia”.

From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Jones

I get my facts straight, work on yours, and why not you may ask…You can’t handle the Truth, period!

BTW- YOU are the Topic Killer.

True C.Roy,

The Dems are spit, although it has made it’s way to the Senate, the split in the party is why ObamaMama is using the Nuclear Option of having a 51 vote to pass it in the Senate, even though he has a Super Majority, he is afraid of the fiscal Democrats voting against it, the count I last did was down to only 52 for, we need two more votes to stop it…If Lieberman would be there to vote, it would help, he would vote NAY.

So, how many others are being threatened by angry voters, there still may be a chance. If it could be re-voted in Congress with the public knowing now what they knew then, I would not have made it off the floor to even go to the Senate.

Thus the reason to pass it before everyone read the damn thing, which many admitted to during the August Recess.

Or as John Conyers (D) said on tape, “Read the Bill, Read the Bill, why should we take the time out of our schedule to read the damned Bill.”

According to my information, the House health care reform legislation that ended up being voted on had some 130-180 Republican amendments attached with the cooperation of the DEM committe chairpersons – and not a single GOP then voted for the bill that contained his/her amendment.

Similarly, I understand that the Senate bill, now in its second committee, had some 80 GOP amendments attached to it with DEM cooperation – yet none of the GOPs on the Senate’s HELP committee voted for their own amendments.

Is that an example of “GOP values” and DEMs “shoving it down GOPs’ throats”?

Re: Post 20;

SNAFUmeister:

I surely NEVER mentioned any “Van Jones” to you or in any other post.

I have no interest in Van Jones, period, and I’ve already explained to you several times that I have an entirely different perception of those “czars” you’re always railing about than you do.

Post 22:

The 128 amendments accepted by the Democrats, “but” tie Dems promise to remove corresponding amendments never came to fruition, therefore they did not vote for the Bill, would you had that been done to you.

Other than that, Republicans do not want this blood on their hands.

Folks, the first statement above was reported to AIM by me, Tyler has since made a sincere apology in this and another tread where I had stated to TK, and where Tyler made this apology, which TK did not accept.

It was posted here:

Dems Wobble Towards 2010
Tyler Post #180

“Wesley, I understand you reported me, and thats fine.  I regret what I said and if aim wants me to go to jail for it I will.”

http://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/dem-says-obama-we-inherited-it-claim-stale

In addition to Tyler’s post here #8:

“tk I apologize for making that statement.  Its never right to threaten people.  But in all honesty if I have to go to jail for it I will.  These issues are very important to me and many great Americans have died in wars defending this country.  Unfortunately it seems they died for about sixty years of freedom 1945-2008.”
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I am a contributor to AIM at every chance I have, I do not represent AIM, nor do I make policy here or enforce it, but since there has been no further comment to me from AIM, I am sure the apologies were accepted, as we are still able to post to blogs.

Personally, I thought the apology to be sincere…both times, and having seen many of their back and fourths, TK and Tyler were confrontational, much as many are with TK’s disagreements, calling anyone who disagrees with him names. I believe it should now be settled between them. 

I have never received an apology from the extreme language directed at me from TK, nor do I expect one.

Thanks everyone,

Wes

Let’s get back on topic, if you all agree.

Post 23,

Dear Name Caller,

I think you should care about Van Jones and many of the other Czars as we learn more and more about them, many have criminal records, btw-Jones is no longer a Czar, he has been made part of the Obama Cabinet. So we have an Ex-Con, and a self proclaimed Communist working on the President’s Cabinet, that is something every one should be worried about.

Take away to Obama component, and insert Bush hiring a Con/Communist, and would you support him then?

Many of his Czars have police records, some who work for ACORN, the Apollo Alliance, the Tides Foundation…we already know as a matter of record, Obama gave ACORN $800 Million USD.

Take a bite out of that apple.

Bush fought to wars, dealt with all of 9-11, fought 2 hurricans that took south Louisiana practically off the map, had to deal with artificially created high oil prices, and a housing bubble that popped, (Created during Bill’s Presidency), and Obama is saying it is all Bush’s fault.  Ok say it.  BUT…take a look at what he (OBAMA) has done in 7 months.  It makes the so called Bush mistakes look like a drop of RED INK compared to his own doings.  This Marxist will not be president on January 21st, 2013.  I can only imagine what will happen in the next 3+ years.  GOD help us.  The Democrats have been taken over by an extreme left wing and America does not fly with one wing much less a big Marxist wing.

TK,

What country are you typing from? You do not speak like an American.

Cambodia?

The other bloggers would like to know.

BB

Post #26 Wesley,  YOU ARE SO RIGHT !!

Whenever I have had the time,( between working and blogging some); I have been reading Michelle Malkin’s book : “Culture of Corruption”, and it is amazing leaning more about those Czars, and where they have all come from, and where their connections and special interests are, as well as their past criminal records.  WHERE is the MSM regarding all of this horror ?  No one is getting any of this extremely important information from MSM channels such as ABC (The ALL BARRACK Channel).  OR NBC (National Barrack Channel). But of course, Glenn Beck is exposing so much right now, along with Michelle Malkin (who is also a guest on his show this week), as you know ; and they are serving to reach so many with the truth.  THANK GOD ! 

Going to have to put my book away for the night and get some sleep. Eyes are blurry.     

I shared the following in another thread tonight, and meant to ask you the other day if you ever read this letter, which has been around for awhile : 
http://www.afa.net/youscareme.asp
     
Take care.

Regarding “Obama inherited …”, to an extent, the truth.

Having said that, what has he and his administration done to fix problems admittedly the creation of previous administrations and their political appointees?

BTW, comment one hears about unemployment at 8% or is it now 9.5% is something of a politically inspired understatement, as the real level of unemployment/underemployment runs closer to 15%, if one includes the “discouraged”, which government numbers, oh so conveniently, do not.

Governmental politicians have their way with, facts, figures, inheritances and taxation as they see fit to feed their covert desire. Private individuals go to prison for many years for the same.

Then there are the “PIGS” of society that lap it all up like ice cream after being starved and with out water for several days.

Simple as pie.

Diane,

I have read the letter, in fact it had been emailed to me, and I must agree with it in it’s entirety.

Post 30:

alan, I am not sure if you have heard of a poster who called himself TK, he was kicked off the site earlier this week. He argued vehemently, that Bush 43 had the largest National Debt “Ever”, and that was why Obama’s was so high.

The CBO reported on Friday, that by separating Bush from Obama’s Debt numbers. I n Bush’s eight years, left a Debt of #845 Billion. Obama’s in Seven Months is $1.6 Trillion, and expected to reach $2.2 Trillion, as he continues to make international loans, and his plan to take $400 Billion from Medicare, empty Medicaid, and is going to cut Social Security payouts by one third to one half.

Obama wants Health Care mainly based on the UK, and Canada, at a time when they are moving away from Social Health Care, and going to Private Health Care (once social health care has been accomplished), it is very, very difficult and expensive to reverse.

Blue Dog Democrats who have been fighting against this Bill, were somehow coerced into passing the Bill in Congress the day before the vote.

If you go back to my predictions just prior to Obama’s Election and after he won, including the time it takes after the election to January 20, 2009. Much, more than I thought has come to pass. Obama once repeated what Thomas Jefferson once said, “If you want to know who a man is, look at the people he surrounds himself with.” What is sad, is Obama never gave credit to the statement.

Well, since he was chosen as a Candidate, I have devoted much of my time doing just that, investigating those who surrounded him then and those who surround him now, many are the same, some are much worse than I first thought, and it took a great deal of digging. Much of the information I got from a pal of mine who has access to the Nexis-Lexis search. If you have EVER been in the news, either print of televised, police records, most all which are available under the FOIA, are all listed on Nexis-Lexis.

I have an Uncle who has a career in the Pentagon, which is how I disproved TK’s claim he was in the Marines version of the National Guard, and claimed he had “Low Level” clearance to the Pentagon. But I nailed him when I asked what division of the Pentagon he had access to, to make a long story short, and having his real name, my Uncle checked the Pentagon records of past employees, both Civilian and Military, and his name was and never has been in the system. He too has been a source of information for me.

My Uncle Lloyd has always had a side business, he owns quite a lot of properties in Virginia, Maryland, and in D.C., roughly the last I heard, 136 properties, most of which he rents to the Military and the Government. He uses Nexis-Lexis to find out information on potential renters, many were have been turned away, although he cannot say why.
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Back to the topic:

Much of what I have discovered had also been found out by Glenn Beck. I began sending him information, and he has reciprocated. He once invited me to appear on his show, but not only did I respectfully declined, I have also asked that he not use my name, nor am I inclined to do a phone interview (My wife and I first met him at the San Antonio TEA Party). It just is not who I am, to get involved in powerful interest groups, or the Government. I am not afraid of speaking out about it here, since I use just my own opinions. I am sure I am on someones list somewhere in our Government, but unless we lose Freedom of Speech, I will continue to say what I believe. To date, my only direct involvement with the Untied States Government, was to obtain Special provisions applied to my passport under two Presidents, to travel to hostile countries for work purposes. The only people I have been directly involved in, were the Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger who had my document signed by Reagan, and Madeleine Albright who had my document signed by Clinton, When the Secretaries of State signed the documents, were also notarized. The Special Privilege travel documents are really no more than to release the US Government from any responsibility if something were to happen to me while abroad in countries where there were no friendly Embassies. In exchange, I would occasionally be debriefed as to what I saw, and any pictures of places of interest.

Most of these places would not allow cameras, but was able to get quite a few into several countries, often by giving them (most incoming and outgoing Customs Agents are Military) but not very bright, in most instances especially Arab Countries. Since you cannot get pork products in Arab Countries, we would all buy many cans of bacon (yes, bacon comes in a can).

We would tear off the labels before packing, the turn them over to our Camp Cooks (ours were Maltese). Who the owners would send to the US to learn how to cook what most of us liked. It wasn’t so bad in more civilized countries, such as most of the UAE, especially Dubai, and Saudi, which had American/British/Canadian Compounds.