ever changing rules

The dealers will remain enthusiastic.

This is the first flicker of life in this economic meltdown and the program has had a definitive “stimulus” effect overall – as well as on the car business, which has been suffering for the last three years.

Too bad the program wasn’t limited to cars manufactured by Ford, Chrysler and GM!

Bunch of morons. So we have people using made up money by the feds, buying cars that your children helped them buy with taxes they will be charged…idiots!!  Now we have more people that had to borrow to buy a car and get rid of one that was probably paid for. Short sighted foolishness!!!  But what do we expect, We’ve been dumbed down so much we don’t have a clue any longer.  You can’t borrow yourself out of a recession…we can’t pay for the BS the government is doing already….

Re: Post 3;

If you look at the economy each year since the last MAJOR recession, which began in October, 1987, ALL of the up-trending years in the economy since have been based on CREDIT – consumer credit, business credit, and government credit.  Borrowing, borrowing, borrowing – for cars and houses – for business expansion – and for an expansion of government and fighting wars in Iraq.  During the recent years of the housing bubble – the average American savings rate was (-) 5%.  And, on Wall Street, credit became a commodity and was sold just like wheat, pork bellies, or silver contracts.  In 2004, 5 and 6 – new car sales were recording-setting in the 17 million sold annually range.  And, of course, new and used houses were flying off the shelves – and speculators and flippers were making a bundle – “borrowing”.  And, when the bubble began to deflate in March 2008, the fist thing the government began doing was to borrow money to prop up the major Wall Street banks – so they could continue to “lend”.

So – the reality is – that the recession that began with the savings and loan lending scandals of the late 1980s – was ended by the borrowing of the go-go late 1990s and early 2000s – which resulted in the Great Recession beginning in December, 2007.  The proverbial “Boom and Bust” cycle – ALWAYS fueled by “lending” and “borrowing”.

We no longer have any real heavy industry or manufacturing bases to support our economy – no more real “production”.  So – we can no longer “produce” ourselves out of a recession – as the production of war materiel brought us out of the Great Depression (although – even that production was paid for with borrowed money!).

you ARE correct, as evidenced by every article ever posted on this site:

“We’ve been dumbed down so much we don’t have a clue any longer.”

but this is purely your own fault. i would blame rush if i were you.

it is nice to see some honesty here for a change.
actually, it’s a FIRST!

Re #‘s 1-5,,,you are ALL right. Go to the head of the class, & you ALL get a cookie.lol Another Obama-Euro program that does NOT work, BUT you can’t tell “The ONE”,,  NO!! All of those cars for clunkers used autos had to fall within a 136 page guideline, such as it had to be insured as of last year,pass inspection, & turn-key startable
aka a used car or truck. Poor neighborhoods both black & white, keep their cars longer due to the economy. My ‘86 chev Suburban (15mpg) hauls my 3500 Lb. horsetrailer,& my 2 1600 Lb. Swedish Warm Bloods (very Large horses) +hay+water+gear+
manure shovels(lol), with power to spare. Show me
a Jap Hybrid that can haul 12K Lbs.(Total) & I’ll
BUY IT..The German Clunkers were resold all over Europe & Africa & S.America,,as USED vehicles,but
did The One learn from this???  ” NO ”

And we are surprised?????

It should be a wash, since the dealer is getting say $3,500 less from the consumer.