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Biden and Obama Liberally Use Other’s Words


By Don  |  August 23, 2008


Barack Obama nd Joe Biden share some things that they would prefer the voters forget.

From ABC News' Jake Tapper.

Trying to make hay out of Sen. Barack Obama's use -- with permission but not attribution -- of some language from previous speeches by Gov. Deval Patrick, D-Mass., Clinton essentially called Obama a copycat.

The controversy soon died down.

But lest we forget, the man whom Obama has apparently chosen as his running mate -- Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del. -- has an episode in his past where he used someone else's lofty rhetoric, unattributed, as well.

Biden withdrew from the Democratic primaries for the 1988 presidential campaign after it turned out he had lifted passages from British Labour Party leader Neil Kinnock without attribution.

"Stupid," an older, wiser Biden judged for ABC News' Charlie Gibson twenty years later, for a profile of the major 2008 presidential contenders. "My mistake. Born out of ignorance, thinking I didn't have to prepare. And I didn't deserve to be the nominee. And all of a sudden, internationally, I'm this guy who cuts corners, who isn't honest, who's using other people's words. And it was, it was, man, it was, it was terrible."

Since Obama had committed the same offense it may have made Biden even more appealing than other candidates with cleaner slates.



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Nana
August 23  at  6:04 pm  |  #1  |  Link

God help us all.

Dave
August 23  at  6:31 pm  |  #2  |  Link

It is becoming clear why Obama never was a trial lawyer and instead opted for a low key civil activist role.  He is not intelligent enough to speak without someone else writing his speech’s.  He can’t seem to speak coherently without the aid of a tele-prompter to cue him on words written by someone else.  With Biden on the ticket we should be elated, and waiting with baited breath, to see which one plagiarizes first and most often, when no tele-prompters are present.  Of course neiter of the two are honest to begin with so it will be interesting to see how many lies they get caught up in also.

blackHat
August 23  at  7:10 pm  |  #3  |  Link

So what you’re saying is, we’re in for more of the same, then?  Considering Bush can’t deliver a coherent sentence with a teleprompter, add to this the fact that his speech-writer is one of the most pedantic hacks ever to vulgarise the English language.

But so much for comparisons…they’re fairly irrelevant anyhow.

Politicians, as a rule, are not honest.  Nonetheless, since Obama wasn’t a trial lawyer, as you say, and obscuring the truth wasn’t a primary job function for a while, i’m hoping for maybe a modicum more honesty with this administration than with the last two…

Brian R. Sullivan
August 23  at  8:03 pm  |  #4  |  Link

Dear Mr. Dave, I find myself amazed. Are there two completely different Obamas? The only one I know of is running for president as a major party candidate. He has achieved a political rise so swift he has no peers in that regard in US political history except Lincoln and Wilkie. So this other guy named Obama is a low key civil activist. What is his first name? Where does this second Obama come from? Now, this second guy isn’t smart enough to be a trial lawyer? Perhaps that indicates virtue. After all, Republicans have been attacking trial lawyers for years as epitomes of all that is wrong with the US legal system.
Get serious.
Strengths and weaknesses are relative in politics. What counts is your abilities stacked up against your opponent’s. Have you watched McCain trying to read his speeches? Notice the way he constantly looks down at a note, to remember what to say? And how about getting into Columbia College and Harvard Law School? I guess they must accept people who aren’t “intelligent enough.” And where are Obama’s teleprompters when he delivers most of his public comments? I guess they must be hidden, right? Oh, and he can’t speak coherently? Do you really mean that YOU can’t understand him. That seems more likely.
Stupid people confronted by those more intelligent are often intimidated. The former can’t admit the latter are smarter out of fear. So they fall into fantasies like you have. Have you ever considered that it’s possible to disagree with you and be intelligent? That - impossible as it may seem - there might be two sides to a question?
Nah! People with whom you don’t agree just must be inferior to you. Cervellino!

Dave
August 24  at  10:20 am  |  #5  |  Link

Well Brian I see that intelligence is also realtive to you.  Let me just use a quote from someone who most agree was an intelligent journalist, political essayist, and novelist, who mastered the english language.

“The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one’s real and one’s declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink.- George Orwell

If you were not blinded by hate and vitriol for the current president, you would surely use the little intelligence necessary to question Obama’s lack of ability to answer simple queries without slipping into incoherent rantings that people like you choose to call ‘nuance’ and most other people choose to call evasion.

Try to read and understand others concerns before dipping into the same old liberal drivel trough.  You show your core values, of which liberals have very few,when your soapbox caves in.

Oscar Y. Harward
August 25  at  8:56 am  |  #6  |  Link

There is a comparison between Obama and Biden. In September1987, Biden was charged he had plagiarized a speech from Neil Kinnock, a candidate from the Labor Party in the UK. With that, Joe Biden resigned as a candidate. A few months ago, on February 19, 2008, Barack Obama plagiarized a speech from Democrat Party candidate from Massachusetts, Gov. Deval Patrick. He gave no credit to the original author, until the Hillary Clinton campaign called that Barack Obama had plagiarized the speech. Webster’s defines ‘plagiarized’ as ‘to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one’s own’.

OldNavyVet
August 25  at  11:12 am  |  #7  |  Link

Why did Obama reject McCain’s challenge to a series of town hall meetings?  I think it is because Obama does not do well without a rehearsed script.  McCain on the other hand seems to do quite well.  The Saddleback forum seemed to illustrate that difference.  Somethings are simply are simply above Obama’s pay grade.  Obama has said he would meet with foreign dictators and despots but will not meet with McCain, interesting.

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