Voting Early & Often
Briefing | By Jesse Masai | October 31, 2008
Now Hans von Spakovsky…is warning that the nature and substance of ACORN’s activities could be more pervasive than previously thought.
With Election Day nearing, the politics surrounding the Association of Community Organizations Reform Now (ACORN) cannot just go away.
Now Hans von Spakovsky,
a fellow at Heritage Foundation, is warning that the nature and
substance of ACORN’s activities could be more pervasive than previously
thought.
At a recent briefing at Heritage, Spakovsky said ACORN might be even
more emboldened by a Supreme Court ruling this month concerning the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) in Ohio, which he suggested makes voter verification difficult.
The scholar says Democrats are not leveling with the electorate this
year regarding HAVA, yet they sought protection from it in 2004 in
Ohio.
“What is amusing is that this very issue came up in 2004, when the
Democratic party filed the first lawsuits under HAVA—against then-Ohio
secretary of state Ken Blackwell, a Republican. It was an effort to
force the state to count provisional ballots from individuals who voted
outside their assigned precincts. Of course, the Democratic party was
arguing then what the Republican party is now—that a private right for
HAVA exists,” he said in remarks also repeated on National Review’s
October 21 online edition.
Speaking of Democrat Jennifer Brunner’s 200,000 “mismatched” ballots,
voter fraud expert John Fund said on October 20 that: “I suspect a
majority, although not all of those 200,000, are valid voters, but
still even if its sixty thousand or forty thousand of those 200,000,
that’s still very troubling in a state that was won by a 115,000 votes
last time and those people, as we’ve found, some of those people did
already vote.”
Spakovsky castigated the Department of Justice for not pursuing the
case, saying the situation was setting a dangerous legal precedent.
At the briefing, he distributed three legal memoranda, outlining his
concerns about this year’s electoral process in view of the voter-fraud
allegations: Where there is smoke, there is fire: 100,000 stolen votes in Chicago; Absentee ballot fraud: A stolen election in Greene County, Alabama and The threat of non-citizen voting.
In the Chicago affair, Spakovsky says the city’s political machine
directed an enormous, decades-long voting fraud effort responsible for
at least 100,000 votes—one-tenth of all votes cast in the city—in the
hotly contested 1982 Illinois gubernatorial election.
“This fraud was accomplished by stealing the votes of the disabled and
elderly, impersonating absent voters, stuffing voter registration rolls
with fake or ineligible voters, registering aliens, casting fraudulent
absentee ballots, altering vote counts, and the outright purchasing of
votes,” he said, adding that similar tactics have come to light in
recent elections in Philadelphia and in the states of Wisconsin and
Tennessee, among other locations.
And he added: “Chicago’s experience points toward viable solutions to
the problem of voter fraud: careful vetting of voter registration lists
to remove ineligible or false names, stronger voter identification
measures such as an ID requirement, and bipartisan oversight of the
election process.”
He argued that Democrats are out to destroy the electoral process,
while at the same time presenting themselves as champions of democracy.
“The left has not had much power since 1965, and is currently
salivating for it. It now views compliance with electoral law as
optional, and not as one for which integrity is vital. We should not go
the Zimbabwe way,” he said, even as he accused the Democrats of abusing
the legal process to silence ACORN critics.
He cited recent correspondence from Democrat presidential nominee Barack Obama’s legal team to the Justice Department asking for prosecution against those questioning ACORN’s activities.
“As Election Day approaches—just as in 2004 and 2006—Republican Party
officials and operatives nationwide, including the candidates
themselves, are fomenting specious vote fraud allegations, and there
are distorting indications of official involvement or
collusion.…Accordingly, I call on you and Special Prosecutor Dannehy to
expand her investigation to include these matters, all of them entirely
consistent with the pattern of misconduct already within her charge,”
Obama for America general counsel Bob Bauer is quoted as saying in a letter availed during the Heritage briefing.
In response, Spakovsky said: “The Obama campaign’s Stalinist-style
demand that a special prosecutor at the Department of Justice
criminally prosecute any candidates, party officials or congressmen who
discussed their concerns over voter fraud is an outrageous attempt to
use the power of the federal government to intimidate and persecute
political opponents. It is almost as if Senator Obama wants to
reinstitute the Alien and Sedition Acts and it brings into sharp focus
the issue of whether he understands the protections of the First
Amendment and the importance of fair and secure elections.”
Jesse Masai is an intern at the American Journalism Center, a training program run by Accuracy in Media and Accuracy in Academia.
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To: TK
Voter suppression? Really? You mean to dismiss the illegal action of Obama’s fan club (ACORN) and say the problem is voter suppression? Whatever!
I think a revolution is coming.
To TK: There have been prosecutions and convictions of ACORN operatives for voter registration fraud. But Republicans are cowards. Otherwise, they would have initiated a RICO prosection against ACORN’s leaders, put them behind bars where they belong, and eliminated the crime organization.
That’s why America needs a real third party alternative, either to kill off and replace the GOP, or to force it to defend the rule of law, American sovereignty, and Middle America.
MSR, Post 2;
What I said was that if ACORN has been involved in so much (Democratic-oriented) illegal action over the last 40 years, why the hell hasn’t one of the GOP presidents, attorney generals, or GOP-dominated FECs during 24 of those 40 years brought about some indictments and convictions?
And, check your history: The most significant voter-related problem in this country, particularly in the south from 1865 to 1965, was “vote suppression”.
In 2000, just in Duval County in Florida alone, 27,000 (that’s t-w-e-n-t-y s-e-v-e-n t-h-o-u-s-a-n-d) votes were thrown out (allegedly, mostly because of small discrepancies or typos in the comparison of registration data and the on-the-scene IDs presented, e.g., James Johnson listed in the voter registration database vs. Jimmy Johnson on the driver’s license presented at the polling place) - and the vast majority were from the predominantly African-American neighborhoods of Jacksonville and its suburbs - obviously people who would have voted Democratic - in an election that Bushleaguer “won” by 537 votes.
Might than not qualify, at least to some degree, as “vote suppression”? Could you seriously think ALL 27,000 were “fradulent”? Just 1.9% of those votes being both “legal” and Democratic would have spared us the total incompetency and national destruction of Bush-Cheney. Just 1.9%!
There may be a “revolution coming” as you say. As I recall, the last one worked out pretty well for the better part of a couple hundred years. Honestly, I can’t imagine anything much worse politically and economically, internationally and domestically, than the last eight years.
To Nicholas Stix, Post 3;
More than anything - I believe the two existing major parties have made themselves useless! Both are controlled by a small minority of extremist ideologues and neither truly represents the majority of its membership - and each is as corrupted as the other. Minorities of extreme Lefty Loons and extreme Righty Rockheads run their respective parties and both are in bed with Big $$$ Big Business. In terms of real “usefulness” to the vast middle and moderate majority, Democrat and Republican are a distinction with a real difference.
If ACORN’s “badness” is so nationally widespread and so significant, then, you’re right, the entire organization should have been swept up in a program of nationwide federal indictments just has been done with regard to other types of organized criminal enterprises.
From my own personal experience, however, over the last forty years, the issue has typically been way more political smoke than substantive fire.
P.S. To Nicholas Stix, my Post 5;
My statement - ... “Democrat and Republican are a distinction with a real difference.” - - SHOULD have been WITHOUT a real difference.
(Mad Cow disease is apparently creeping in!)
I have been voting for 40 years, JFK did not win the 1960 election, Nixon did. Even if you take Voter Fraud out of the equation, a simple recount would have put Nixon in the White House. Even many Democrats at the time were saying the same thing. Nixon did not want a re-count thinking he would be considered a “Sore Loser”, although the GOP insisted.
In Chicago, ...“some fraud clearly occurred in Cook County. At least three people were sent to jail for election-related crimes, and 677 others were indicted before being acquitted by Judge John M. Karns, a Daley crony. Many of the allegations involved practices that wouldn’t be detected by a recount, leading the conservative Chicago Tribune, among others, to conclude that “once an election has been stolen in Cook County, it stays stolen.” What’s more, according to journalist Seymour Hersh, a former Justice Department prosecutor who heard tapes of FBI wiretaps from the period believed that Illinois was rightfully Nixon’s. Hersh also has written that J. Edgar Hoover believed Nixon actually won the presidency but in deciding to follow normal procedures and refer the FBI’s findings to the attorney general—as of Jan. 20, 1961, Robert F. Kennedy—he effectively buried the case.”
Re-creating new parties is not the answer, it will just start all over again. The three-term Rep. J.C. Watts (R-Okla.) a popular black man (in both parties) has even suggested he is stunned by the voter fraud perpetrated by ACORN and other nasty tactics, and saying Obama has changed policies more than he changes his underwear, and that the Dems definition of taxes keeps changing and fears a sever Depression.
Obama says, “The only time I was involved with ACORN was to litigate for them.” Then we find that he was on the Board of the Woods Foundation (With William Ayers) and created and ran Project Vote, which later became ACORN, then we find out that during this election, Obama gave ACORN $832,000.00 from his campaign.
ACORN is now being investigated by the FBI in 14 States, and we cannot even get our military votes counted.
Be it Republican or Democrat, I would NEVER vote for someone who has yet to be vetted. When you have the MSM being part of Obama’s campaign, every time there is a question about Obama’s past, be it the lack of his Birth Certificate (as it stands now he has an original Kenyan Birth Certificate, but only a copy in Hawaii), dealings for 20 years with William Ayers, Frank Marshall Davis, Tony Rezko (Now Convicted) and other nefarious “friends”, the Main Stream Media will not pursue any of this. Instead they make allegations against anyone who brings these things up, or blames Republicans.
What if a Republican had these associations, the MSM would be all over it, 24 hours a day.
ACORN should be shut down and its members arrested, or at the very least, take away their Federal funding.
Someone in the Justice Department warned ACORN the FBI was to investigate two of their offices, the evening before, their computers were reported stolen. Then suddenly the hard drives were replaced in hundreds upon hundreds of Hard Drives were replaced.
With the prospect of an Obama win, the Senate gets their 60 vote margin, the Democrats will control all three Branches of Government there will be no oversight.
Or as Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have said, “We will finally be able to do what ever we want with Republicans out of our way.”
Wesley in Dallas, Post 7;
JFK’s win in 1960 was exactly, EXACTLY the same as GWB’s win in 2000. The only thing that differed is the state in which the tomfoolery occurred and the party that perpetrated the tomfoolery. (A simple statewide recount in Florida in 2000 would have put Gore in the White House.)
And, regardless of who wins this presidential election, the DEMs will very likely have up to a 100-vote majority (270-165) in the House and a filibuster-proof majority (60-40) in the Senate - so - whether Obama wins or not, his party will be running the show, pretty unilaterally, and he will be its leader-and-chief with, probably, nearly the same level of power (excepting the veto) he might have as president.
ACORN has been around for more than forty years and for the majority of that time, there’s been a GOP president, FEC and Attorney General so - if ACORN has been consistently guilty of anything criminal insofar as voting goes, one would think one of those GOP presidents, FECs, or Attorneys General would have gotten some indictments and convicions by now.
You have a very short memory of the Florida election of 2000. A state wide recount was requested by the Republican Party; Dem attorneys fought that in the liberal Florida Supreme Court and won. The Dems only wanted recounts in certain precincts.
Four months after the election, the bill for a storage facility had not been paid and could not locate the renter. They later found that the renter was using a fake name and the credit card used to pay for the storage had been stolen.
When the owners opened the door, they found 44 Official election ballot containers which contained 46,000 military ballots, once counted they found 86% were for Bush. So he won anyway, the U.S. Supreme Court severely sanctioned the members of the Florida Supreme Court, all registered Democrats.
Now here in 2008, soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan just received their ballots less than two weeks ago, not long enough for those in the field will no get their ballots in time to have their vote counted. In Virginia, the ballots sent to our military from their bases there and those who did manage to get their ballots in time will not be counted. That decision was made by Virginia’s Secretary of State, knowing there was a problem with the ballots sent, and did not resend the ones which required a Notary Stamp line.
These are only two instances of charges being brought:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/15/acorn-commits-fraud-in-michigan
http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=555&pst=1307341
ACORN’s primary purpose in the 70’s were to get low income blacks lower mortgage rates, when banks and home lenders refused, ACORN sued many of them, and thus started the Sub Prime lending rates. As with un-paid Credit Card debt, in the 1980’s Reagan put a stop to it all, since the Government is required to repay 75% of the debt back to the lenders.
In the 1990’s Barney Frank resurrected the Sub Prime mortgages once again, this time around it was many more people and with the dollar at an all time low, banks/lenders were hungry. By 2004 the banks began having problems absorbing the 25% losses. Republicans brought a bill to the floor to stop lenders from issuing Sub Prime rates, and Nancy Pelosi refused to let it come to the floor for a vote. House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D) killed the second attempt to stop Sub Prime lending.
By 2004, Democrats controlled both Houses, and on eight occasions, the Judiciary have killed the all requests for Special Prosecutors to look into ACORN.
That is what caused the $700 Billion bail out, which I was against and damn Bush for signing it, but what is done is done. I think in these instances, there should be a requirement that the should for the Board of Directors do not get a piece of the pie, nor the CEO, CFO, President, none of them should get a cent.
You mentioned that you are in favor of the Dems controlling all three branches of Government is just plain wrong, I would not like it if it were the Republicans, there must be oversight, that was the full intent of the Framers of our Constitution.
Now Obama says if elected he will kill the coal industry and force them out of business, and to look for “Sharp increases in your electric bills”. Millions in each of the seven coal states who voted early want their votes back, as do millions more Americans since it will affect every State. Pelosi’s Stimulus Bill of $310 Billion Dollars will now pass.
As for his tax cuts, it is ever changing, it began:
$250,000.00 per person
$250.000.00 per person
$200,000.00 per person
$150.000.00 per person
$100,000.00 per person
$80,000.00 per person
They now say he may have to go lower to pay for his 1.45 Trillion Dollar Spending Bills, so where will he get the money to pay for crap we do not need?
Verified Taxes:
*Double all Payroll taxes
*Marriage Penalty will be back
*Death Tax will be back
*Home Owner tax increase
*School Tax increase
*Automobile Registration $15.00 extra tax
*Automobile License Tax increase
*Tax increases on products purchased
*Gasoline tax increase
*Diesel Fuel Tax increase (Increases prices as most of our goods are delivered by Trucks, Trains, and Ships)
*New Internet Tax
*Wireless Tax increase (Internet WiFi and Cell Phones)
*Government Tax on each Television you own, each year (same as in many counties in Europe)
As I am watching the elections, in Philadelphia, several precincts are experiencing voter intimidation by Black Panthers, and other groups getting up in white peoples faces brandishing nightsticks telling them they had better vote for Obama, nice huh?.
Correction:
$250,000.00 per Family
$250.000.00 per person
Wesley in Dalls, Post 10;
With all due respect, it’s a waste of time for me to argue with a committed and closed-mind ideologue.
However, in Florida in 2000, 27,000 ballots were disallowed in Duval county for mostly minor technicalities. The issue is that 95% of those ballots were cast by African-Americans, most of those were probably Democratic votes, and only 600 of those would have changed the election. Would anyone really believe all 27,000 of those ballots were faulty? (Those ballots were destroyed before any third-party could review them.)
Otherwise, 18 Florida counties, all with Republican Supervisors of Elections, REFUSED to participate in a statewide recount and there was no statutory basis to require them to do it. Of course, Gov. “Bush” and Sec. of State Harris could have “cajoled” them into recounting - but, obviously, ideology said “no way”. The State Supreme Court ordered a recount - but the Bush campaign appealed to the Supreme Court - which reversed the Florida Supreme Court. An honest and fair-minded governor and state and county administrations would have willingly cooperated in a full and open recount, don’t you think?
If you think the last eight years and the Bushleaguer administration was so great, good for you, and, by all means, feel free to go vote for more of the same.
For me, I believe government over the last eight years was the worst in my lifetime. Further, I believe extremist ideological partisanship and rumormongering (brought to real fruition by Newt Gingrich in the 90’s and promoted full-bore by the Rove/Bush II crowd, the rightwing radio wingnuts and flaky pentecostals and evangelicals) is a much greater threat to the future of America than are foreign terrorists.
(And, I must say, you’ve taken the “tax paranoia” rumormongering bit, here on election day, to a new height! Nothing but propaganda and provocateuriship. Why don’t you go for your own radio program ??? BTW, What will you do if Obama wins and the House and Senate have DEM super-majorities?)
Amor patriae.
First of all, my love for my Country is stronger than most all Liberals. At least I have served my Country, have you? Liberals are cowards when it comes to the military, the are so hard headed you could not drive an iron stake through their heads.
It is and always has been the military which allows the very freedoms you enjoy.
As for the Super Majority, I have already answered that, NO ONE should have it, Republican or Democrat.
As for the Coal deal, obama now is (although too late for now) losing Union Support and will add another 80,000 people to the unemployment rolls. What an egg-headed move.
McCain is not Bush, you watch too much MSM, and obama’s rhetoric.
Believe me, after a few years if not sooner, remember that “I told you so”. 
Notice I am not giving him the honor of capitalizing his name that is reserved for Patriots, and those who earn it.
http://www.timeswatch.org/articles/2008/20081104142052.aspx
Conservatives/Republicans are happier and have a better sense of humor, study done by a liberal group. ROLFMAO
Will America Get Chamberlain, When We Need Churchill?
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/11/will-america-get-chamberlain-when-we.html
With the leak of an obama memo almost two months ago, which mentioned that during the campaign, he would only cut Capital Gain Tax by only 5%, would actually double after inauguration, plans to double it. In that memo, he plans to tax 401K’s and IRAs, more than half of our home office have cashed in those, so they will avoid the upcoming taxes, we have paid the early withdrawals, but will still come out ahead in the long run.
Businesses have began laying of employees, the numbers for October are astounding, and estimated 200,000, and economist are expecting 250,000 to 300,000 in November.
Yesterday our company had a lay off of 16,000, there will be more in November and in late January, we will close 14 of our 36 Domestic Offices.
As for the MSM, they are committed to Democrat/Liberal/Socialists, now they (the Dems) are planning on reinstating the Fairness Doctrine which will shut down Republican Radio, the 47 million Republicans and Republicans who didn’t vote, and many Democrats are planning on shutting down MSM Television News and Liberal Newspapers by petitions to televised news advertisers. We have already gotten to the New York Times and LA Times subscriptions are down 61% and 59% respectively.
Dear Mr. Wesley in Dallas,
If you actually believe the statements you have been making, why are you creating an electronic trail to your door? Instead, why haven’t you fled the country or gone into the wilderness to begin an insurrection? I assume you are aware that several different government agencies have the ability to trace your location and identify you through your e-mails. (Your use of a pseudonym, although an act of cowardice on your part, offers you no protection whatsoever against professional electronic surveillance.) If the present political situation is as you describe and if it will unfold as you predict, you are either going to be murdered or put into prison, possibly even horribly tortured in one or the other case. So that leads to only a few possibilities: 1) Either you want to become a martyr or 2) You don’t actually believe your own statements or 3) You are mentally unbalanced. Do tell.
Brian R. Sullivan
Eventually, I guess incessant anxiety, chronic disputatiousness, political paranoia and ideological overload can eventually get to a person and cause terminal off-the-wallism or some such ???
Brian, dave, lauren, larurens daughter…ect.
What exactly have I said that is any less than the article itself, or have we already lost freedom of speech.
I am a paying member here, which means they have all my information from credit card down, why would I hide for telling the truth…because I disagree with, as Farrakhan that I have differed with the Messiah?
At least I have only used one ID on this site and with my real name, unlike some of you.
Oh, and by the way, ACORN is going to trial here in Dallas this month, according to our CBS affiliate KTVT.
The day I lose my freedom of speech in this country, then no one will be able to speak their mind, including you.
So, you tell me exactly what I should be afraid of?
This was to be the post instead of #17
Brian R. Sullivan, dave, lauren, laurens daughter, we can now add TK to that list, I have gone back through many postings, your writing style are the same, as TK you mentioned Jack Hanson, when he has not posted in quite awhile. You also proved you are the same people I mentioned when you look at post #‘s 15 and 16. Seems to me you are the one hiding behind a pseudonym or should I say several pseudonyms.
As for you post #15, has freedom of speech died? I have said nothing which would cause anyone to look for me. Since I am a paying member, if they want to find me, all my info is here on AIMs membership. At least I use my real name here, it will match my membership info.
As in my post #9, most all of that information is true according to various sources. We still do have freedom of speech in this country, do we not? What have I said that I should be afraid of, it is certainly much less than other posts here.
Or was that a threat?
To Wesley in Dallas, Post 18;
Your comment:
“Brian R. Sullivan, dave, lauren, laurens daughter, we can now add TK to that list, I have gone back through many postings, your writing style are the same, as TK you mentioned Jack Hanson, when he has not posted in quite awhile. You also proved you are the same people ... ”
You’re certainly wrong here about me, Prof. Writing Style Analyst, just as you’re patently wrong about so many other things you puff and pontificate about. It never ceases to amaze me how extremist rightwing rockheads ALWAYS regress into berating the messenger - - evidencing expertise ONLY in the politics of (attempted) personal destruction.
Note: Regressing to the selection of the Boondocks Diva and spending his (and her) time attacking Obama on a personal level is why McCain lost. If he had stuck to HIS proven moderate and bipartisan principles and had he evidenced a tone, tenor and demeanor similar to that of his concession speech throughout the campaign (and chosen Charlie Crist as V-P instead of Carobou Barbie), McCain likely would have won.
But - his handlers, instead, pushed him into being, like you, nothing but a deprived mongrel attack dog mindlessly snapping at the air!
Have a great weekend!
P.S.
Sure you’re not really a “Jack H Hansen” alter ego, just huffing and puffing and spouting and spewing as usual, but without the usual vulgarities and profanities ???
Aw, who the hell would care, anyway!
Well then, do this, turn the tables. Say it was an unknown Republican with a nefarious background, dealings with ?former? terrorists, under the table loans from a convicted criminal from Syria. Would never answer direct questions and had the media and internet behind them. Spewed out policies that drove you nuts, wanted to gut the very military you had served? Wanted to take from low income wage earner to give to the rich, and still the media would not speak about anything about this Republican no matter how damning to your causes, lied and really was a, well I wont go there.
I was seriously worried about the character of this country before obama, now it is a lost cause.
Only in this country could a Democratic Congress have a 12 point approval rating, with Bush at 31% and gain more seats.
Not mention, maybe, just maybe I enjoy getting under your skin. 
Think about it.
Re: Post 20;
Your statement: “Only in this country could a Democratic Congress have a 12 point approval
rating, with Bush at 31% and gain more seats.”
First of all, Bush has a 21% rating (NOT 31%) - the lowest ever recorded for a sitting president.
Second, the so-called “Democratic Congress” (in existence for only two (actually, 20 months) of the last 14 years) may have included a House of Representatives with a clear DEM majority for the 20 months, but, to enact legislation, the Senate also has to go along with everything the House passes - - and this Senate was 49% Republican, 49% Democratic and 2% Independent. That is a “Gridlocked”, not Democratic, Congress. And, of course, anything the Congress did pass along the way (excepting the bail-out legislation) was VETOED by the GOP president (the worst president in American history). The GOP controlled Congress from 1994 to 2006 - and we (and YOU) are reaping what that Congress has sown!
(In case you don’t know this (most Americans don’t): for a Congress to be truly effective (to most easily generate legislation), it either has to be truly bi-partisan in all respects, while benefiting from a very cooperative president - or - both the House and Senate need to have a super-majority and a president of the same party.)
Your entire first paragraph sounds like the ramblings of someone who’s been dipping way too much into his homemade tequila.
Give it a break!
Wesley-
What is with the fetishists on this board who insist that someone is posting under several names? they lump Brian Sullivan and TK together, and you have the “proof” inasmuch as you claim their writing styles are the same. While they both write in complete sentences and actually make sense, which does help distinguish them from most of the posters, it’s a mystery as to why you insist they are one and the same.
My only guess is that YOU, in fact, post under different names and assume that others do also.
Incidentally, Wesley, very little of post number nine, number nine, number nine, is accurate.
Gene Poole:
http://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/hill-dems-worried-about-biden-debate
Go to this link, this is only one of few that Jack Hanson Post #57 proved he was posting under these names:
lauren, aka dave, TK, Brian R Sullivan, Hose A, and Tommy Troll
Add to those: lauren daughter, lauren’s mama and amitted to jacques, in Post #66, and it didn’t stop there.
After so many threads, Jack had had enough, and has not posted since.
http://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/ny-times-struggles-to-stay-relevant
Wesley-
I am confused, and the link to post 57 didn’t help. You seem to be saying that Jack Hanson was posting under all the names you list.
What’s up with THAT?
Jack H Hansen
October 15 at 6:45 pm | #57 | Link
Hi again lauren, aka dave, TK, Brian R Sullivan, Hose A, and Tommy Troll (did I miss anybody?). Still trolling the conservative sites slamming those you hate I see. Just love you tolerant lemmings from Daily Kos!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Gene Poole said: “Wesley-
I am confused, and the link to post 57 didn’t help. You seem to be saying that Jack Hanson was posting under all the names you list.
What’s up with THAT?”
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That is not what I was saying, and you know it, Jack Hanson was the victim here, as I have mentioned I chose to pay for the privilege of being a member here. I have the right to have IP’s checked and dupes blocked. You can contact AIM and check my IP address out, Wesley in Dallas is the only name I use here.
What I would like to know is why the L.A. Times will not release the latest video of the Khalidi going away party (Courts have ruled it is not privileged since it was sent anonymously, and not submitted by a reporter), a leak from the Times, we do know attending was obama and William Ayers, Bernadine Dorhn, several other high profile Arabs, and a Death to Israel speech.
Even radical Hamas terrorists have praised obama.
“We like Mr. Obama and we hope he will win the election,” Ahmed Yousef, senior Hamas leader was quoted by ABC radio as saying.
Watching the news as of now, pres elect obama lays wreath at Chicago Veterans memorial, there were no booing from past military, but when he turned around to address the crowd, the Vets turned their backs on him. ROLFMAO.
This after remarks about gutting the military budget, stopping all new technology, planning to meet with Ahmadinejad (Iran) and the head of the Taliban. He will also capitulate on Russia’s desire to eliminate our new highly successful Missile Defense Systems, one of those systems proved itself even more powerful and accurate when it took down the satellite which was falling to earth carrying a dangerous chemical propellant.
Russia is rapidly rebuilding their ICBMs and Obama will greatly reduce ours, if not eliminate them altogether. I especially found it funny that when Putin was asked what he thought of Obama, he replied, “He is what Americans call a Cub Scout.”
Worse yet, after Bush invited obama to the White House and gave him the skinny or our secret military Ops. Then leaked much of it to the New York Times”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/10/washington/10military.html?_r=2&hp;&oref;=slogin&oref=slogin
As with all Presidents during the transfer of power, these conversations are mandated to never be discussed outside the White House or Pentagon, it has NEVER happened until now, going back over 100 years.
Rahm Emanuel Was Director of Freddie Mac During Scandal
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=6201900&page=1
obama’s tax cuts for the bottom 95% of Americans is a sham, or as I prefer, a scam.
40% pay no taxes at all, they will still receive a check. No tax cuts for middle class, wrong…when the Bush tax cuts expire in 2010 in about a year, your taxes will increase by 5%.
566 Small Businesses have closed since he was elected, due to upcoming Cap Gains Taxes, and forced high dollar insurance.
The USPS is a government owned entity, however it is solely funded by Stamps, and packages, they announced today they are cutting 40,000 jobs.
Hey, Wesley, ever hear about the nonsensicality of crying over spilled milk or running to close the barn door after the horse has left?
A DEM president, a DEM House of Representatives and a DEM Senate have all been duly elected, for better or worse - - and, frankly, I don’t believe there could be any “worse” than that exhibited and evidenced over the last eight years.
Can you ever stop whining, carping and harping long enough to actually let sufficient time go by to see how the new government and its leadership might REALLY turn out?
Talk about a nattering nabob of negativity!
TK, stop preaching, I would have much rather have had Hillary elected rather than someone who refuses to allow anyone to look into his past. Take Columbia for example, he had all his records and dissertations sealed. With that in mind, classmates of obama said his thesis was on the virtues of Marxism. Universities do not have privilege, such as Doctors.
He announced yesterday he would close Gitmo, Bush is planning to move all detainees back to Iraq to stand trial by the Iraqi government. That is a good move, then the US Courts will have no say in setting these known terrorists free. Almost all the US Courts which have set them free, have only shown up again in Iraq and Afghanistan, most only to be killed in battle, good for them.
The problem is, Gitmo is the ONLY US base in Cuba, from there we can at least know to a good idea of the goings on in Cuba, or the Russians trying to rebuild nukes in Cuba again.
I cannot wait for the upcoming US Supreme Court to hear the case against Internet campaign donations, given all the fraud found out and documented, and stop it for good, and written into the Constitution and made irreversible.
And you would be dead wrong, have AIM check it out.
But, Gene Poole could very well be one of Brian R. Sullivan and his 7 other ID’s. (Speaking of Gene Pools, perhaps you are missing one that controls the thought process)
I have read a new book, “Was Joe McCarthy Right After All”
We could have used him in this election cycle.
In the event you missed my other post Brian:
Brian,
Looks like your new comment on AIM:
http://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/obamas-online-support-challenge
Was deleted, wonder how that happened?
Perhaps it was deleted because you made a threat comment to the author Don Irvine.
To Gene Poole, Post 30;
Re: your statement;
“methinks wesley is jack ... ”
Methinks you might be right! Dr. Wesley Jekyll and Mr. Jack Hyde?
Re: Wesley’s statement:
“I have read a new book, “Was Joe McCarthy Right After All”. We could have used him in this election cycle.”
First, anyone today who thinks ANYTHING having to do with Joe McCarthy is a positive thing is either on something or is a slow-thinking, trash-talking and wrong-way-walking anachronism.
But - Wesley-Jack is just engaging in his/their usual off-the-wall propagandistic and antagonistic provocateurship.
And - who cares?
We would have at least known if obama was ever a member of the CP-USA.
If you were to move America Haters, Liberals, Socialists, Marxists, and Democrats is Iceland, the crime rate in this country would drop by about 96%.
Wesley in Dallas, Post 29;
I thought rightwing religious rockheads really go for “preaching” and preachers!?!? No?!?!
Personally (and I can’t believe I could ever find myself in agreement with you on ANYthing), but if I could have voted in my state’s Democratic primary, I would have voted for Hillary, too!
Otherwise, it’s all water over the dam. And you’re still moaning and groaning about the spilled milk and the barn door left open - - and speculating and speculating and speculating and speculating, ad nauseum.
If you can’t (or won’t) be part of the solution - then you’re nothing but just another pain in the ass part of the problem.
Again, Happy Hump Day!
TK,
If you go back here and look at my next to the last post made by me, you will see what I think of some Republicans and Bush.
October 31 at 4:41 pm | #1 | Link
If this organization (ACORN) is really as “bad” as GOP partisans claim - why hasn’t the FEC and Dept. of Justice done something about it over the last 40 years?
Since 1968, there’s been a Republican President, a Republican-dominated FEC, and a Republican Attorney General for 24 of the 40 years and ACORN’s also been around all that time - ostensibly engaging in “fraudulent voter registration” (which, in the first place, is entirely different from “fraudulent voting”). If the organization is violating federal voting laws as is claimed (seemingly, during EVERY election) - why have there been no serious, widespread legal actions and convictions?
In truth, at every presidential election, GOPs claim the DEMs are engaging in fraudulent voter registration - and the DEMs claim the GOPs are engaging in voter suppression. While history proves that BOTH are true in varying degrees - especially as regards African-Americans and in the old south - it’s just more of the same-old-same-old, pig-headed, worn-out, yammering, chattering, hot-air partisanship.
In truth, more votes are typically denied in every election than are falsely counted. The historical voting problem in this country has always been voter suppression.