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Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama tried to deflect a question about his relationship with terrorist Bill Ayers by saying that he “engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old” and that he was now a professor and a neighbor. The real issue is whether Obama shares Ayers’ communist views. Obama admitted to exchanging ideas with Ayers on an irregular basis but did not say what those ideas were. But we know that Ayers, rather than just being a 1960s “radical,” was a member of a Marxist-Leninist communist group.
The Weather Under-ground, or Weathermen, wasn’t just home-grown and domestic in nature, although it had evolved from the so-called Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), which laid siege to college campuses and tried to take over administration buildings. Their openly proclaimed goal was world communism and they had links to hostile foreign powers.
“We’re revolutionary communists,” Ayers himself said in 1969.
The FBI said that the Weather Underground had more contacts abroad than the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA.
Which brings up another aspect of Obama’s background—the role of his childhood mentor, Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis. This is the hard-core Soviet apologist who filled Obama’s head full of anti-American thoughts at a tender age.
About Ayers, Obama said that he’s not somebody he exchanges ideas with “on a regular basis.” What ideas? And does that mean he communicates with him on an occasional basis? We need more questions and answers.
But in a posting on the far-left Huffington Post website, Ayers’ brother, Rick Ayers, accused Senator Hillary Clinton of McCarthyism for daring to comment on Obama’s ties to this communist terrorist when the subject came up in the April 16 Democratic presidential debate. Such a charge of “McCarthyism” is designed to intimidate not only Clinton but the media.
Does the phony charge of “McCarthyism” prevent the media from exploring the more critical issue of Frank Marshall Davis’s influence on Obama?
The Davis connection is essential to understanding why Obama would exchange any ideas at all with Ayers. At that point in his life, after he had moved from Hawaii, where he listened to Davis’s Marxist “poetry” and anti-American and pro-Soviet rants, Obama was receptive to the kinds of “ideas” that Ayers would offer to him. The media should demand to know what those ideas were.
The False Veneer
Obama has been clever to appear bipartisan and moderate, despite a very liberal voting record. He let his guard down in a big way when he not only endorsed but sponsored the Global Poverty Act, which would funnel a massive amount of foreign aid (by one informed estimate $845 billion) to Africa and the rest of the world, perhaps as partial reparations for slavery. It is curious that Obama doesn’t talk about this bill, which is on the verge of Senate passage, and it is strange that the major media don’t mention it, either. It is a potential budget buster that sheds light on Obama’s world view.
The “exchange” of views with Ayers and others of his ilk may also shed light on what Obama might do in other areas, such as the critical field of education, where the federal government has assumed a larger role. It turns out that Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, another former communist terrorist, are now specializing in the education and the raising of young people. They even have a book coming out on the subject.
Obama himself seems to have some strange ideas on child-rearing, having brought his young children to hear Sunday sermons from a pastor, Jeremiah Wright, who has exhibited anti-American and anti-white tendencies and sentiments.
For his part, Ayers wasn’t just a terrorist; he was a communist terrorist aligned with and manipulated by Moscow’s communist apparatus, operating through Cuba, against the United States. Many members of the group traveled to Cuba, sometimes to meet with the Vietnamese communists, and others went directly to Hanoi, North Vietnam. One of their stated objectives was to prevent the U.S. from stopping a communist takeover of Vietnam. They succeeded, with the acquiescence of a liberal Congress, which cut off U.S. aid to the South Vietnamese government, and more than 58,000 American soldiers died in vain.
Senator John McCain was an American prisoner of war being tortured by the North Vietnamese communists while Ayers and his comrades were giving aid and comfort to McCain’s torturers.
Dozens Of Bombings
The FBI was desperate to apprehend Ayers and his comrades because they were operating with foreign support and direction and the dozens of bombings they carried out between 1969 and 1975 did an estimated $100 million in damage. A policeman had been killed in San Francisco by a bomb planted by the Weather Underground at a police station. Seven others were injured. Eight were injured in the Weather Underground bombing of the New York City police department. Fifty-nine policemen were injured in a riot the Weather Underground promoted in Chicago.
If anything, ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos was too timid in his questioning of Obama during the April 16 debate.
Here’s how Stephanopoulos put it:
“A gentleman named William Ayers, he was part of the Weather Underground in the 1970s. They bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol and other buildings. He’s never apologized for that. And in fact, on 9/11, he was quoted in the New York Times, saying, ‘I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.’ An early organizing meeting for your state senate campaign was held at his house and your campaign has said you were ‘friendly.’ Can you explain that relationship for the voters and explain to Democrats why it won’t be a problem?”
A “gentleman” named Bill Ayers? The only reason he’s not in prison today is because the FBI employed allegedly illegal break-ins as part of their search for members of the group. FBI officials thought the break-ins were justified on national security grounds but terrorist lawyers would have had any charges against them thrown out.
Killing The Police
Some of the terrorists, of course, did go to prison. Kathy Boudin went to prison for her involvement in an October 20, 1981, armed terrorist assault that left Nyack Police Sgt. Edward O’Grady, Patrolman Waverly Brown and Brinks guard Peter Paige dead. A website, memorial and scholar-ship have been created in their honor.
David Gilbert also went to prison for his role in that assault. He co-authorized the SDS booklet, “U.S. Imperialism,” whose first page includes a quote from the Communist Manifesto. He wrote the book, No Surrender: Writings from an anti-imperialist political prisoner, which includes an endorsement on the back cover from Ward Churchill, the disgraced college professor who achieved notoriety for comparing 9/11 victims to Nazis.
On The Communist Side
Other titles from the “SDS lit list” of June of 1969 included Which Side Are You On? US History in Perspective, Cuba vs U.S Imperialism, and Cultural Revolution in China. SDS literature regularly referred to police as “pigs.”
Hillary Clinton, during the debate in which the subject of William Ayers came up, meekly noted that Obama “served on a board with Mr. Ayers for a period of time, the Woods Foundation, which was a paid directorship position.” Notice how Senator Clinton r
eferred to “Mr. Ayers,” after Stephanopoulos had called him a “gentleman.”
In rebuttal, Obama noted that “President Clinton pardoned or commuted the sentences of two members of the Weather Underground, which I think is a slightly more significant act than me serving on a board with somebody for actions that he did 40 years ago.”
So both of them have something to answer for. And so does George Soros.
The Soros Connection
One of the terrorists pardoned by Clinton was Linda Evans, who became a “Soros Justice Fellow,” named after the controversial left-wing billionaire, George Soros, who spent millions of dollars to defeat President Bush in 2004. She was given a Soros grant to “increase civic participation of former prisoners.”
This is the same Linda Evans, according to an FBI report, who said that during a trip to Hanoi in 1969, she was shown an anti-aircraft gun, cradled it in her arms, and “wished an American plane would fly over.”
For her part, Dohrn in 2004 was advertised as a featured speaker at the Baltimore branch of the Open Society Institute, a group funded by Soros. Her topic was discipline in schools.
JEREMIAH WRIGHT’S CONTROVERSIAL AIDS CHARGE
Asked during the question-and-answer period following his National Press Club speech on Monday why he charged the U.S. Government with manufacturing the AIDS virus to kill black people, Barack Obama’s “former” pastor Jeremiah Wright cited a 1996 book by Leonard Horowitz, Emerging Viruses: AIDS and Ebola. This rang a bell. I had exchanged correspondence with Horowitz several years ago because I caught him promoting an old Soviet disinformation theme that has been disavowed by former Soviet and KGB officials.
Is Wright parroting communist propaganda? If so, he may also have seen it on the CBS Evening News with Dan Rather.
The charge that AIDS is a plot against blacks has been used by people like Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan to inflame race relations. Louis Farrakhan’s newspaper, The Final Call, ran an article (December 15, 1999) quoting Horowitz as saying that AIDS is a “genocidal plot” against blacks. The paper’s on-line version carried a link to the Horowitz website. Horowitz claims a copy of his book was used in the Will Smith movie, “I Am Legend,” about a plague that kills most people on earth and transforms some that are left into mutants.
As a skeptic of some of the claims about AIDS, I examined the Horowitz book. Horowitz, who has quite a following and speaks around the country, raises some legitimate questions about AIDS, vaccines, and the medical establishment. The U.S. certainly studied the feasibility of using viruses or germs as weapons. But the claims about AIDS being manufactured by the U.S. Government as a weapon of population control have been debunked. I told him the evidence showed the Soviets had used the AIDS charge against the U.S. to divert attention from their own biological weapons program.
He replied, in part: “I am happy to learn that the Nation of Islam’s, The Final Call, a newspaper that issues Louis Farrakhan’s concerns regarding HIV/AIDS as genocide, has a direct link to our website. I applaud Minister Farrakhan, and a half dozen other Black leaders, who have grasped the truth about HIV/AIDS as a utilitarian population control plot, and have the guts to say it.”
Horowitz released another book, Death in the Air, which purports to include information about the “intentional targeting of black Americans and Africans for population control, including depopulation, as is being accomplished by the AIDS epidemic today.” The release for the book cited an alleged “secretly dispatched National Security Memorandum 46 to cabinet chiefs only” from Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was national security adviser in the Carter Administration. The release said, “This document, the most telling, authorized the FBI and CIA to initiate genocidal policies.”
This document was reproduced in “Soviet Active Measures. Hearings before the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, House of Representatives, Ninety-Seventh Congress, Second Session, July 13, 14, 1982.” These 1982 hearings produced evidence that the document was a forgery, possibly of Soviet origin, designed to hurt U.S. relations with Africa. An analysis showed that one of the individuals involved in its distribution was a former member of the Communist Party USA who became affiliated with the World Peace Council, a Soviet front.
The document, an obvious hoax, included no reference to genocide. Rather, it outlined a bogus government effort to monitor and provoke blacks at home and abroad. There was an authentic Presidential Review Memorandum 46, but it concerned events in Central America. It can be found in a listing of Carter presidential National Security Council documents.
Rather Falls for Soviet Ploy
Wright isn’t the first public figure to repeat the claim that AIDS is a U.S. weapon to kill people. The claim that AIDS was manufactured by the United States was reported by CBS Evening News anchor Dan Rather on a March 30, 1987, broadcast. Rather was widely criticized for playing into a Soviet KGB disinformation campaign. The charge had appeared in a number of Soviet and Third World publications before Rather picked it up.
Horowitz went further than Rather, suggesting the charge is backed up by “evidence.” In his book, Emerging Viruses, on page 363, he wrote that “For years preceding the end of the Cold War, the KGB gathered evidence, that Russian officials ultimately reported, suggesting an American origin of AIDS. Officials alleged that the AIDS virus had been a Pentagon invention—a germ unleashed for political purposes in Zaire.”
The Soviet KGB had planted charges in a propaganda operation designed to conceal the hand of the KGB. A report on this matter is “Soviet Influence Activities: A Report on Active Measures and Propaganda, 1986-87,” published in August 1987 by the U.S. Department of State. The published hearings of the House Intelligence Committee are also very useful.
The Horowitz book, on page 364, reproduced a Soviet Pravda cartoon depicting the “American origin” of the AIDS virus. He gave “courtesy” credit to Covert Action Information Bulletin. In fact, he cites individuals associated with Covert Action Information Bulletin as legitimate sources of information on this topic. Yet this publication, according to 1980 hearings of the House Intelligence Committee, published a Soviet forgery of a NATO document as if it were authentic. Covert Action Information Bulletin was associated with Philip Agee, the CIA defector who collaborated with the Cuban Communists.
The AIDS charge against the Pentagon was disavowed in late 1987 by then Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev, who said, “No more lying. No more dis-information,” in an effort at a more open foreign policy. (In fact, the Russians have continued these disinformation campaigns since the fall of the old Soviet Union, as the book Comrade J documents).
At the time, however, Russian officials were trying to put on a fresh face. In fact, four years before the Horowitz book was published, Yevgeni Primakov, former head of the KGB, admitted that “the KGB planted stories in the late 1980s which alleged that the HIV virus was the result of a Pentagon experiment.”
In 1992, two former officers of the East German intelligence service, the Stasi, published a book in which they described how they collaborat
ed with the KGB to promote the AIDS disinformation, using Russian-born East German professor Dr. Jakob Segal. This is mentioned in John O. Koehler’s 1999 book, Stasi: The Untold Story of the East German Secret Police.
Former KGB officer Oleg Gordievsky admitted the Soviet KGB role in spreading the AIDS charge against the U.S. in his 1990 book, KGB: The Inside Story. Gordievsky called the charge a “fabrication” that “also took in some of the Western media.” The leading Soviet AIDS expert, Viktor M. Zhdanov, also repudiated the anti-American charge.
The Sword and the Shield, published in 1999 and written by British professor Christopher Andrew, includes more information. An expert on Soviet intelligence, Andrew wrote the book in consultation with Vasili Mitrokhin, a former Soviet KGB archivist who defected to the West in 1992. They call the AIDS charge “probably the most successful anti-American active measure of the Gorbachev era, promoted by a mixture of overt propaganda and covert action by Service A…” of the Soviet intelligence service.
Fortified by “spurious scientific jargon,” they wrote that “the AIDS fabrication not merely swept through the Third World, but took in some of the Western media as well.” They cite a front-page article in the conservative British Sunday Express in October 1986.
Obama Denounces Wright
On April 29, Obama denounced Wright’s comments, saying that “..when he states and then amplifies such ridiculous propositions as the U.S. government somehow being involved in AIDS, when he suggests that Minister Farrakhan somehow represents one of the greatest voices of the 20th and 21st centuries, when he equates the United States wartime efforts with terrorism, then there are no excuses.” He added that “ …when I start hearing comments about conspiracy theories and AIDS and suggestions that somehow Minister Farrakhan has been a great voice in the 20th century, then that goes directly at who I am and what I believe this country needs.”
All of this is not to say that questions should not be raised about the science behind and even origin of AIDS.
Journalist Celia Farber wrote a provocative piece, “Out of Control: AIDS and the Corruption of Medical Science.” She is the daughter of famed radio talk-show host, Barry Farber.
It would be a tragedy if Wright’s wild charges prevent an open and honest debate about the nature of AIDS. After all, 24 years after HIV was declared at an April 23, 1984, Washington news conference, as the probable cause of AIDS, there is still no cure or vaccine. About $200 billion has already been spent by the U.S. Government on HIV/AIDS but investigations have found corruption in the various programs that test and distribute anti-AIDS drugs. The United Nations has been caught red-handed inflating the number of AIDS cases, even while a U.N.-backed international airline tax is being implemented country by country to spend even more money.
If the media want an issue in this campaign, they’ve got it. Why the unlimited spending on AIDS?
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75 Comments for It’s the Communism, Stupid
Thank you for your thorough report on Obama and his communist ties. For 30 years I have been telling people about the threat of people like Wm. Ayres. To go back even further, I have been defending Sen. McCarthy since the 50’s. I have been proved right about many of these things, and I think that your article gives further proof that there is a Communist conspiracy in this country.
…the communist narco-terrorist group has been receiving support from anti-American Hugo Chavez of Venezuela…
Which brings up an uncomfortable fact for the US: Venezuela supplies something like 35% of our imported oil; and an uncomfortable fact for Venezuela: the majority of the refineries on the planet that can “crack” Venezuelan sour, heavy crude are in the US, so the US is practically the only market for their oil.
The 3 major suppliers of our imported oil are Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela: the rest of our imported oil comes from Great Britain and Norway (North Sea). Only a tiny percentage comes from the Mideast, and that mostly from Iraq.
So the next time you hear: “Our oil addiction is funding terrorists!” you can reply, “Yes, but not the terrorists you think.”
Mildred Mallek and others,
To help yourself getting better equipped to defeat the Left about Joe McCarthy, go to the National Secutity Agency (NSA) webpage http://www.nsa.gov/venona/index.cfm and soak yourself with the shocking revelations in the Venona Project that completely validate most of McCarthy’s contentions and notions about how Stalin’s stooges has infiltrated all strata of American life, including of course, national security, science, academia, organized labor, entertainment, etc.
Obama+Ayers+Wright+Davis+Global Poverty Act=communist.
Enough said.
I do get a little upset when ‘McCarthyism’ is used to attempt to silence a debate. It’s used much like ‘racist’ is used.
Kids in school are taught that it was just a political witchhunt.
Communism is part of the problem, but it isn’t the big problem. Globalism and corporatism is the ultimate danger and that agenda is allowing communism to help them..
I would feel ever so much better if I thought Obama’s only bad connection was to some communist. I think his connections and his string pullers are much more dangerous.
well I wish I could read as much on the “bad” connections of Mc Cain and H Clinton!
But it seems you prefer some bad connections to others or am I wrong?
The problem is man as it is: a beast with only one big aim: ego feeding.
I don’t know who ‘you’ is, but I would like to see ALL the connections of ALL the candidates.
When we align ourselves with any politician or party, we are selling ourselves short.
Galt you said: The 3 major suppliers of our imported oil are Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela: the rest of our imported oil comes from Great Britain and Norway (North Sea). Only a tiny percentage comes from the Mideast, and that mostly from Iraq.
Crude Oil Imports (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Mar-08 Feb-08 YTD 2008 Mar-07 YTD 2007
CANADA 1,795 1,920 1,886 1,780 1,825
SAUDI ARABIA 1,535 1,614 1,541 1,216 1,325
MEXICO 1,232 1,231 1,220 1,621 1,475
NIGERIA 1,154 982 1,102 1,290 1,156
VENEZUELA 858 945 980 1,036 1,033
IRAQ 773 780 697 523 464
ANGOLA 384 341 433 696 570
ALGERIA 247 191 269 501 484
ECUADOR 231 169 217 191 214
KUWAIT 199 261 232 288 208
BRAZIL 188 169 175 209 174
COLOMBIA 135 220 174 108 107
RUSSIA 108 80 68 193 92
CONGO (BRAZZAVILLE) 105 97 98 79 58
CHAD 101 89 103 66 74
Razz, That’s very interesting – thanks.
Baroque’s understanding of international history makes him well aware Arab terrorist are the
ones who were given black African Christian’s money, when they were casted into slavery.
Why else would the puppet Karl Marx write his communist manifesto right off the heels of the Mexican War, the Alamo, Cinco de Mayo and the extermination of blacks on the America’s west coast: while Baroque downplayed on a global scale Eleanor Marx’ tome, which implicated France’s Left in plot to have black Corsicans related to Napolean that sold dope in black communities worldwide?
Communists need to explain why they liquidated 50,000 soviet troops, so 50,000 nazi troops could goose step into Black Forests of Eastern Europe.
RazzWV
What’s your source? Please provide a link or citation.
Thanks.
Nevermind—I found it…
In the San Francisco Chronicle, “40 years after death, questions linger,” by Micheal Taylor
Tuesday, 3 June 2008, p. A1 and p. A9 underscores
how on that day Rosie Greer tackled Sihan Sirhan.
Back then Rosie was a Democrat, but today he is a Republican! I’d love to see Baroque reason this away!
John I can’t remember which source I looked at , but this one Is a good one.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html
1. AUSTRALIA AED SAYS GOVT APPROVED SINOPEC SALE
2. Chia Signs Key Trade Deal in Australia, by
Edward Lenfranco, C.4 April 2006
3. Australia and China pursue trade pact, by Chris Buckley, c. 20 April 2005
The economy is all about supply and demand!
I do not think the Department of Energy will be providing any data, which shows how America’s influence may be weaning in the global market.
“you” are all those bashing Obama and kind of praising the war hero Mc Cain for example…
Ladytexan you are right when you say: quote
When we align ourselves with any politician or party, we are selling ourselves short.
I have voted 3 times in my life(I hit 60 recently) and this is almost the only one thing I regret in my life: to have been stupid to throw my ballot. I encourage people to not vote. Best way to see the dictature naked. All governments are bad, some are worse than others that’s all…
Sombrero:
Where is your branch of California SuperFamily?
Uto-Aztecans, Athabascans, Algonquins and a few more were exterminated just before Jim Crow was enacted on the east coast.
It seems nobody wanted to listen to our parents, when they told us the Holy difference between right and wrong.
San Diego, Los Angeles, Bakersfield, Merced, Modesto, Stockton, San Francisco, San Jose, Oakland and Sacramento were exterminated, so their bent Christian cross could find its way to Adolf Hitler and Eastern Europe?
Did we learn nothing, when Mexico gave away its navy to Cortez for Fie Dollah Ho? Howbeit Europe
has a holiday, “All Saints Day” that follows the very next day to Mexico’s “Days of the Dead” yet we never view our Aztec priests as Christians?
Did Europe give their black Christian relatives’ bent Christian cross to India, as England stopped the systematic murder of blacks in India with The Untouchables?
Does this also harken back to the south’s Jim Crow where Cherokees shot their black mother, father, aunt, uncle, cousin and neighbor just to consolidate under the Ku Klux Klan banner?
Sombrero, if I had my druthers and could influence others, I would suggest they write in a candidate, for President and vote out anyone now in office in every other category.
Personally, I haven’t voted since I voted for Reagan, in a general election, but I will this time and I intend to write in Ron Paul, unless I think McCain has a chance. I don’t like McCain, but his election would give us some time.
Ms. Clinton and McCain are the same ole, same ole. I’m thinking the globalization of this country would continue ahead – but slowly.
With Obama, I’m thinking we are going to get some drastic changes and I think we will get them soon.
Personally, I don’t think Mr. Obama is a racist – I think he is an opportunist. I think he is an elitest. I think he is playing the race card to get votes – and I think that is reprehensible.
Albert Franklin and Ladytexan:
http://www.buyingofthepresident.org/
It just seems to that to write in a candidate is nothing more than not voting at all. I vote almost all of the elections. No, I am not satisfied with the candidates but I vote for the one who seems to have the most ethics and moral values. (:>) Such candidates are not plentiful. I guess that is what we are talking about.
Nevertheless, I want to slow down the rush to communism that is taking place in our fair land. I love America and I want to see her prosper once again. There was a preacher that I knew of , dead and gone now, he wrote a book entitled “The Reverend Spy”. It was a true story and i have always believed that the spy in the book was none other than himself. Anyway, he said in the book that there were many spies in the U.S. trying to get the plans for the atomic bomb during that time. Many of the spies working for our enemies were ministers of the gospel. He was a minister also and was working for our Gov here in the U.S. There has been a concerted effort for many years to over throw our way of life. Reflecting on the communist connections that Obama has, I am convinced that he would love to see the U.S. go that way also. When Clinton ran for office there were reports that he received campaign money from a general in the Red Army. Doesn’t that say something to you?
In fact to all!
http://www.buyingofthepresident.org/
Ron Paul, by definitionis not quite what it takes to be considered a libertarian, and too much of a Republican to count.
Fact Check on Craig’s predominantly non sourced and undocumented article [aka fiction]:
“The only hard facts that have come out so far are the $200 contribution by Ayers to the Obama re-election fund, and their joint membership of the eight-person Woods Fund Board. The Obama-Ayers link is a tenuous one.”
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weatherman_connection.html
Meaning this link is of little consistency, substance, and significance except to perhaps a far right fascist motivated conspiracy theorist like Craig.
Ladytexan in “I do get a little upset when ‘McCarthyism’ is used to attempt to silence a debate. It’s used much like ‘racist’ is used.”
Refer to that old saying “If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, is it not a duck?” [or something like that;-]
Adnihilo, Certainly I think McCarthy was a hot dogger and was doing what he did for publicity. To suggest there were no such people as communists in this country, and that his hearings didn’t focus attention on that, is just not right.
Some good did come out of it.
The thing that bothers me is the fact we are ignoring the dangers today and harking back to that. It’s like those trying to justify illegal immigration say assinine thingss like, ‘We are a nation of immigrants’, or ‘what about the Indians’, etc.
Enough already, we need to open our eyes and see what is being done today. History is important, but while we are beating McCarthy to death, much more terrible things are being done in the name of ‘war on terror’, ‘war on drugs’, ‘homeland security’, ‘war on poverty’, ‘no child left behind’,‘amnesty for illegals’ etc., etc. We ignore what is looking us in the face or stabbing us in the back – at our peril.
Now, I am not one that thinks communism is our worst enemy here. Globalism, corporatism, and the unholy alliance between our government and business is our enemy. They may be using communism, but the end all is not to have us become communists, other than to be controlled.
Sombrero, I don’t have a doubt that the President, whichever choice is made, will be owned. In fact, I think they are all owned by the same people. The agenda, the globalist, one world, whatever one wants to call it, is not going to take a chance and give us a real choice. They choose our choices for us – letting us retain, at least for now, some semblance of a self-governing society.
Ron Paul is not perfect, but his ideas are much better than anything we have. For that reason, he doesn’t have a chance. If he is not one or the other, that makes it much better – labels are confining and controlling. Anyone who wants to enforce the laws and refers to the constitution is way ahead of the game. That’s the reason the news media buried him and pundits lied and poked fun when referring to him.
There are things about Obama that scares me and always has. Things not to do with domestic agenda. But, I’m thinking the ugliness and racial division that this has stirred up, intentionally, will be something we will have to deal with – whether he wins or not. It is my fear we are in for some very bad times – I hope I’m wrong – I hope I’m wrong.
ladytexan in “Adnihilo, Certainly I think McCarthy was a hot dogger and was doing what he did for publicity. To suggest there were no such people as communists in this country, and that his hearings didn’t focus attention on that, is just not right.”
McCarthy surely didn’t try to indict and jail a host of innocent Americans for publicity, he did it in accordance with his republican agenda against what were predominantly liberals of the time who were NOT COMMUNISTS…
Just before she died in 1963, Franklin’s wife Eleanor wrote on the last page of her last book, Tomorrow Is Now:
“Long ago, there was a noble word, LIBERAL, which derived from the word FREE [libre]. Now a strange thing happened to that word. A man named Hitler made it a term of abuse, a matter of suspicion, because those who were not with him were against him, and liberals had no use for Hitler. And then another man named McCarthy cast the same opprobrium on the word. Indeed, there was a time—a short but dismaying time—when many Americans began to distrust the word which derived from FREE. One thing we must all do. We must cherish and honor the word FREE or it will cease to apply to us.”
You know, the Japanese had some nerver returning
to America after they settled on the island when the left their cousins the Koreans.
However, to be returned on the west coast, and in California history where they comprised 1% of this state’s population, yet Japanese Americans controlled 10% of its agra-business.
History should read America wants its citizens to
work hard except the Japanese. Wasn’t it FDR who
is Dutch himself, as Japan delt with the devil in
the form of the A, B, C, D [America, Britain, China and Dutch].
With FDR, the Japanese were dealing with a double
Dutch! Anyways, when FDR died April 1945, so did
Hitler [April 1945] and Mussolini [April 1945] within days of one another.
Wasn’t FDR’s cousin, Teddy, undersecretary of the Navy, as was FDR [Pearl Harbor]? Are they or are they not members of a plantation family? However, in this case they wound up enslaving Eastern Europe, and here’s the crowd that proclaims them their hero!
When FDR died, didn’t he come back to life just to say he made a mistake in setting the Japanese
in concentration camps? Didn’t the money taken from them pay for their portion of World War I, World War II including those God aweful atomic bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
One would suppose that history tends to be more concerned with placing blame on Hirohito and his field marshall who found himself hung than to accuse Mononobi of a thing, but then again, wasnt’t Mononobi ambassador from Japan who sent himself to the Soviet Union? Didn’t Mononobi’s son find him dead and we in the west declared a sepuku? Kind of like both Mussolini and Hitler with FDR thrown in to screw thing up a tad bit!
On the contrary, Ron Paul did not have a chance under Republicans, but as Independent, he stands a far better chance of winning the White House.
With the economy going nowhere but way up [I am willing to predict, the poor will starve to death], and then drop way down. Everyone will blame the Democrats and the Republicans unless they can fix it before November.
These candidates, so far, have been using Ron Paul’s ideas, but none have yet to follow up on them, as he has as a congressman. I think he stands a better chance than even McCain, under these variables.
Not one of them has a real platform to demostate
to the public. I think that voters are going to get scared by who they now have to vote for, and will switch their vote to Ron Paul with a growing
thrust of momentum until election day.
On the economy, what he needs to do is demonstate
that it really works by himself either threw the Republican parts apatatus, or some other means.
If either the Republican party or his sponsoring party creates wealth from within the party then
the government may be force to take note of it and will capitulate. I just don’t see how China can generate all their wealth yet we in American have a weakened economy though if we fall their’s
and the world’s comes with us.
Nothing anyone else could say would have done the damage to the idea of liberalism as did the actions of those who took over the Dem. Party in the 60’s and has run it since.
The same is true of conservatism. What this administration has done to the idea of conservatism is astounding.
I can see Ms. Roosevelt lashing out at McCarthy and blaming him perhaps out of frustration. For the life of me, I cannot understand why she would have used Hitler to make her point. In the context of being the most hated historical figure of that century, I’m thinking if he denounced liberalism, that would have been a plus for it – not a minus.
Who is going to be influenced against liberalism because Hitler was against it?
No, I think that was frustration and attempting to place blame perhaps because her agenda didn’t get to be fulfilled. Everyone has to find a reason they didn’t succeed in what they wanted to do or that not enough agreed with them.
My family was a very politically oriented family – it was discussed regularly and we discussed and studied politics in our school. The word liberal or conservative was never used. I’m thinking that labelling, as an everyday thing, began in the 60’s when they decided they simply had to divide this country. The parties divided us to an extent, but people, far too many people, couldn’t be fit into a mold and were voting across party lines and thinking for themselves. So they gave everyone new labels, and bashed each other.
McCarthy may have done damage to innocent people, but the so called liberals have ruined many lives also. During the 60’s anyone even suggesting that the government had no right to take over the school, tell people who to hire, fire, etc., were called racists. If one used the wrong word, and it changed often in that time, one could loose their job. Just being from the South was enough to get someone a lot of disrespect.
They are using it today, both sides, to attempt to silence those who are speaking out against illegal aliens. It isn’t working now, thank Goodness, but once all that was necessary was for someone to point a finger and scream ‘racist’ and suddenly no argument had any validity.
No, I’m thinking Ms Roosevelt might have just been looking for someone to heap some scorn upon and putting McCarthy in the same category as Hitler was just an attempt to do that.
Eleanor should defend her cousin [FDR] husband.
However, when FDR/s political record mirrors that of Adolf Hitler’s she’s got some never to be calling anybody names!
Was her cousin Teddy undersecretary of the navy, as was her cousin/husband FDR? Liberalism is, therefore, supposed to be a good thing when we consider the outcome of Pearl Harbor? It even gets sweeter, when FDR, Churchill and Stalin cut up Europe into bite sized chunks while leaving out China’s role in these matters. Liberalism is the grand old slaver’s party GOSP!
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Boy, is this an old list.
I am also surprised that it is still out there!
Today, I found a site which sets the Black Plague in Europe at 1348. The year Order of the Garter came into existance.
According to the map, the plague seems to have originated in Georgia!
Should this be a surprise to anyone, seeing that communism’s forefathers all seem to hail from Georgia including Putin?
The only difference between the Democrats and the Republicans is that the Democrats allow the poor to be corrupt, too.
If it weren’t for baseball, many kids wouldn’t know what a millionaire looked like.
Yeah, ask Ronald Reagan about being both Democrat and poor! If I am not mistake, was Hinkley’s uncle on Jimmy Carter’s Cabinet? Democrats never could forgive poor Ronny for trading up!
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Can anybody explain why when 75,000,000 black Christians in Europe were wiped out in 1354, the Gengis Khan Empire was still in full swing for another 14 years? 166 years latter, Spain is in Mexico sniffing out black Christians to the tune of 30,000,000?
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The brain is a wonderful organ. It starts working the moment you get up in the morning and does not stop until you get into the office.
After I’m dead I’d rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one.
Books…are like lobster shells, we surround ourselves with ‘em, then we grow out of ‘em and leave ‘em behind, as evidence of our earlier stages of development.
To be willing to die for an idea is to set a rather high price on conjecture.
Look at all the sentences which seem true and question them.
I never know how much of what I say is true.
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And some say communism is dead!
“Power Issue Caused Crash: NTSB says helicopter’s
main rotor malfunctioned before wreck that killed 9,” by Marcus Wohlsen, San Francisco Examiner, c. 22 August 2008.
In my humble opinion, the only thing which could have caused a Sikorsky helicopter to melt that night is for it to be targeted with a phaser.
If Oregon and Washington State Flatheads wiped out their branch of the California Superfamily, along with everyone else’s, then why would the just play with the Russians in their home state?
Who said the revolution will not be televised? There it is in black and white and read all over!
You’re right about that Albert.I totally agree with you.
I do not see how Tesla gets so much attention seeing that he murdered his mother in Serbia then went to New York and stole America’s greatest inventions!
One of them is a device that allows people today to make planes, trains and automobiles to crash.
San Mateo County is heading for a big lawsuit, when Elizabeth Delgado figures out how her car was
manipulated in the Tongan royal couple crash on Highway 101 after they left East Palo Alto.
All of this points to California being under direct attact, seeing that 300 forest fires were buring at the time of the downing of the Russian made Sikorsky heilcopter!
Conspiracy Right Wingnut Whacko Al Franklin reports:
IT’S THOSE DAMN DIRTY COMMIES that created 300 California Forest Fires while other ‘communists’ use a Tesla created ‘phaser’ device to shoot down a helicopter killing 9 that’s reported to have a main rotor failure?
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-california-wildfires-crash,0,3768167.story
You need to take your meds Franklin – psychosis is a dangerous mental disease…
Excuse me for my psychosis, but wasn’t William Shakespeare a kid when he was murdered during the Black Plague?
I have no idea how you spell diversity, but in my book it does not begin with me dragging my mother and father by their feet because the Black Plaque makes their body in such a way they need medical assistance which I denied them by neither giving them unsoiled closthes to wear, providing them with food, nor a drop of anything to drink.
138 years latter, did I order Columbus to trek to the Americas, and sink one of Spain’s sailing vessels in the West Indies, but I can not remember
what I did with either their ship or its Arawak crew who it was recorded arrived in Spain when Columbus and I did?
38 years later, did I execute Christians in Mexico
to the tune of 30,000,000? In my psychosis,there is absolutely no connection between extermination of 75,000,000 black Christians related to me and an untold hundreds of millions wiped off the face of this earth?
300 California wildfires just so happened to have been started by God? Therefore, when a Russian made Sikorsky helicopter gets melted down to a puddle, as found in two San Fancisco Examiner news stories, we defend communism for no apparent reason, and accuse me of being off my meds, while
taking all the facts and arguing them in a public forum, as I get broadsided with not so much as an ounce of the smallest microscopic speck with a grain of truth running through it?
Dear Albert – It’s difficult to deal with someone lost in psychosis but here goes. What are you rambling about? These incessant ramblings on the Black Plague are devoid of any relevance to anything pertinent to the last few hundred years.
Do you think you ordered “Columbus to trek to the Americas, and sink one of Spain’s sailing vessels in the West Indies” Albert? Do you feel you executed “Christians in Mexico to the tune of 30,000,000?” And regardless of what’s responsible, what does any of all that have to do with a communist ideology essentially nonexistent at the time?
You have some grasp of reality from begging the question on ‘God’ causing 300 Cali wildfire, but deducing they’re somehow associated with ‘communists’ also using star war type phasers to shoot down a helicopter in some communist plot is absolute lunacy and clinically insane Albert…
But here’s a recent factual plot mostly covered up by the Feds and the US Media most everyone here of course will dismiss:
4 meth heads arrested in plot to kill Obama all belong to racist Christian Identity NeoNazi group. All 4 NeoNazis are members of the biker arm of this radical right NeoNazi group, Aryan Nations. One of these Christian NeoNazis arrested admits they were all planning to shoot Obama. Feds cover up this admitted plot to assassinate Obama by dismissing it as mere meth drug crimes.
http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Nazi-link-in-39plot-to.4428733.jp
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/26/four-arrested-for-plotting-obama-assasination/
Even though Law enforcement sources say one NeoNazi Meth head admitted they were planning to shoot Obama, prosecutors yesterday said they had evidence to charge the three men only with drugs and firearms offenses.
McCain panders to bikers.
Bikers are radical right wingnuts.
Bikers are a big part of the meth trade.
Meth is predominantly a poor white rural midwest & bible belt problem.
Rural midwest and Bible Belt white Christians are renown for being racist and Republican.
4 meth heads arrested in plot to kill Obama all belong to a racist Xtian identity far right NeoNazi group
All 4 NeoNazis are members of the biker arm of this radical right NeoNazi group, Aryan Nations
1 of these Christian NeoNazis arrested admits they were all planning to shoot Obama
Feds cover up this admitted plot to assassinate Obama by dismissing it as meth drug crimes
US authorities give Christian NeoNazis Terrorists caught with rifles admitting they were planning to assassinate Obama a ‘free pass’ while even an off the cuff remark about wishing Bush was dead gets you tossed in jail by his SS goons.
So will all the readers of the ‘conservative’ AIM communist conspiracy theorist website here view a bunch of rural far right white NeoNazi meth heads admittedly plotting to assassinate a black Dem presidential candidate as having nothing to do with politics? But of course…
Typical left wing garbage. These so called neonazis are not Christian and neither are they right wing. I have listened to this drivel til I am sick of it. Why don’t you left wing commies move to Red China or Russia if you like socialism so well?
Christians aren’t plotting to kill anyone. Left wingers? well of them I am not so sure.
RazzWV, you obviously live in Bizarro world like most all of your brethren here at AIM. An Alice in Wonderland world opposite of reality where up is down and down is up. Bizzaro world is where the typical RIGHT WING propagandist lies come from that are opposite to fact and reality the lunatic right wing fringe [wrongly calling themselves ‘conservative’] here at AIM is renown for on the internet.
Living in the bible belt culture of West Virgina [obviously the VW in your ‘Razz’ monikor] has no doubt contributed to the vast stupidity and downright ignorant redneck, white trash, incestuous ignorance you show in your above post…
Aryan Nations is not a Christian Identity group you say?
From the http://www.aryannations.org/ website itself:
“We are a Christian Identity association, meaning we believe & practice the tenets of true Christianity that is for our people & to our people. Aryan Nations is the political expression of its Church, the Church of Jesus Christ Christian”
Aryan Nations is not a RIGHT WING ‘Christian Identity’ group you say?
Even our own right wing government just a tad more conservative than Aryan Nations that Razz surely worships, or at least still bows down to, specifically identifies this NeoNazi Christian Identify racist hate group as ‘right wing’.
http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress01/freeh051001.htm
Testimony of Louis J. Freeh, Director, FBI
Before the United States Senate, Committees on Appropriations, Armed Services, and Select Committee on Intelligence May 10, 2001
“Threat of Terrorism to the United States”
“On the national level, formal right-wing hate groups, such as World Church of the Creator (WCOTC) and the Aryan Nations, represent a continuing terrorist threat.”
Google “Aryan Nations right wing” and you’ll find any reference to there to Aryan nations refers to it as RIGHT WING!
And Razz of WV, just because you don’t agree with anyone citing the FACTS AND REALITY that doesn’t agree with your deluded ‘conservative’ Christian psychotic bizzaro world that’s opposite, or the antithesis of reality, doesn’t mean they are ‘commies’, socialists, or even liberal for that matter. It just means they’re not suffering from the severe right wing [or a racist NeoNazi] Christian mental disorder you are where which contact with reality is lost or highly distorted [definition of psychosis].
1354 marks 14 years before the Gengis Kahn empire collasped. Georgians catapulted their black Christian relatives over a wall in China they new to have been guarded by Italian Christians. Italy
was the first country to contract the Black Plague in Europe. With Lenin, Stalin, Putin and the present leader of the so called reformed Soviet Republic all from Georgia, as a Russian Sikorsky is brought down in California, and then melted into what authorities had to collect and set in a cardboard box, yet according to your understanding of historical data, you do not see what happened in 1354 to Christians, as well as the Americas and Africa.
The article you posted from the San Francisco Examiner actually set the helicopter’s picture they did not post online. However, if you had taken the time to type the story’s title, and seen what came up on Google, then you might have been able to read it again, but this time from Sacramento Bee’s inclusion of the teltale picture.
So what’s your point Albert? You’re again incessantly rambling on about unrelated meaningless crap without making your point….
Just because you say, certainly does not make it truth.
There is a difference between Christian Christian Identity
There is none so blind as he who will not see.
How does one ramble on and on, when 75,000,000 Christians in Europe were exterminated during a 3 year Holy War? World War II started in 1939 and concluded when FDR died April 1945, Mussolini April 1945, as did Hitler, April 1945. Please excuse my rambling, but didn’t FDR a from southern
plantation stock meet with Churchill and Stalin to
discuss how Europe be conquored? Maybe it’s the meds again! Come to think of it, did lynchings of
blacks decline when we were at war in Europe? Would it be because a Native American bent Christian cross was hung about the necks of Hitler’s troops, or am I rambling again? Compared to the 6,000,000 lives lost under Hitler’s rain of terror in Europe, would you say that 350,000 of the dead where used as sexual favors for those so inclined? Would 3.9 million Christians during the Black Plague sound out of sort? Let’s test my theory: Days of the Dead.
1,2&3;November. Maybe I am rambling again, but it
seems to flow out of All Saints Day. 31 October.
Exept, here in the America, when 30,000,000 Christians were exterminated the only Christ to be allowed in America is the one where nobody breaths a single word about how husband starved his Black Plague ailing wife, the gay son drug his
mother and father infected with the Black Plague into the front yard for all to see the suffering!
However, you love blacks today? The Amish do anyways! Blame it on my meds!!!
RazzWV in “There is a difference between Christian Christian Identity”
LOL. There’s no meaning that can be derived or projected from doubling up the adjective Christian in ‘Christian Christian Identity’.
Perhaps your your English there in West Virginia Razz is marginal Razz. ‘Christian’, when used as an adjective is defined as “Following the teachings or manifesting the qualities or spirit of Jesus Christ” that in this case in ‘Christian Identity’ is used in reference here to the noun ‘identity’ referring to the characteristics of the Aryan Nations group [Christian] and the individual [Christian] within it.
Individual members of these NeoFascists admitting to a plot to assassinate Obama are as much Christian as their Aryan Nation group itself is identified as a part of the ‘Christian Identity Movement’.
The Christian Identity movement is described as “a movement of Fundamentalist Christian denominations which have accepted Anglo-Israelism, and grafted it to racist, sexist, anti-communist and homophobic beliefs.” I’ve read plenty of hate speech here at AIM from its ‘Christian’ readers posting racist, sexist, anti-communist and homophobic comments.
Fundamentalist White Evangelicals within the ‘Protestant’ Christian sect readily fit into the ‘Christian Identity Movement’ from their well known racist, sexist, anti-communist and homophobic beliefs. Beliefs easily found reiterated here at AIM from its Christian readers posting a regular supply of racist, sexist, anti-communist and/or homophobic comments.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/cr_ident.htm
At least you have apparently concede to the fact that ARYAN NATIONS is a RIGHT WING group. It is labeled ‘conservative’ at religioustolerance.org just as most all the readers of AIM will almost always refer to themselves [in denying their right wing Christian political extremism]….
RazzWV in “There is none so blind as he who will not see.”
There are none so deaf, dumb and blind RAZZ OF WV as he who cites irrelevant Christian idioms [jargon] to support their faith-based fallacies, and irrational statements therein.
You are typical leftwinger. Totally ignorant of what Christianity really is. My ecucation is wherever it came from far exceeds your limited knowledge.
>>Does the phony charge of “McCarthyism” prevent the media from exploring the more critical issue of Frank Marshall Davis’s influence on Obama?
Is the Pope Catholic?
The media tends to lean left, but usually doesn’t ignore a good story, no matter which party it hurts, eg, Gary Hart. Hillary is enjoying this media “attention” at the mome.
Those Saturday Night Live skits re the dem debates were dead on…and hilarious.
Even George Steponoffacliff got his wrist slapped for daring to ask Obama debate questions that he will surely face in the general election, although I still put nothing past Hillary. LOVE to see her take the nomination.
I wonder if one days blacks will realize that they’re being played? They pay social security taxes, too…but tend to die way before retirement age, so get nothing in return for their surviving family members. Bush at least made a proposal for soc sec that would allow blacks (and everyone else) to have a hands-on approach to their retirement years, so that surviving family members were left with some financial security.
Oh, well, that’s the price one pays for voting against one’s own self-interests. At least our poor have cars, VCRs, and a higher standard of living than the average (not poor, but AVERAGE) European. (They have more practice at shooting themselves in the foot with socialist nonsense.)
Is it just me…or does Obama seem to be shedding his articulate remarks, replacing them with utter nonsense as the race wears on?
Hmmm…a communist or a “racist” for dem nomination?