Is Barack Obama A Marxist Mole?
AIM Report | March 18, 2008
Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA).
In his biography of Barack Obama, David Mendell writes about Obama’s life as a “secret smoker” and how he “went to great lengths to conceal the habit.” But what about Obama’s secret political life? It turns out that Obama’s childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist.
In his books, Obama admits attending “socialist conferences” and coming into contact with Marxist literature. But he ridicules the charge of being a “hard-core academic Marxist,” which was made by his colorful and outspoken 2004 U.S. Senate opponent, Republican Alan Keyes.
However, through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his “poetry” and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just “Frank.”
The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What’s more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several communist-front organizations.
Trevor Loudon, a New Zealand-based libertarian activist, researcher and blogger, noted evidence that “Frank” was Frank Marshall Davis in a posting in March of 2007.
Out Of Nowhere
Obama’s communist connection adds to mounting public concern about a candidate who has come out of virtually nowhere, with a brief U.S. Senate legislative record, to become the Democratic Party frontrunner for the U.S. presidency. Decades ago, the CPUSA had tens of thousands of members, some of them covert agents who had penetrated the U.S. Government. It received secret subsidies from the old Soviet Union.
You won’t find any of this discussed in the David Mendell book, Obama: From Promise to Power. It is typical of the superficial biographies of Obama now on the market. Secret smoking seems to be Obama’s most controversial activity. At best, Mendell and the liberal media describe Obama as “left-leaning.”
But you will find it briefly discussed, sort of, in Obama’s own book, Dreams From My Father. He writes about “a poet named Frank,” who visited them in Hawaii, read poetry, and was full of “hard-earned knowledge” and advice. Who was Frank? Obama only says that he had “some modest notoriety once,” was “a contemporary of Richard Wright and Langston Hughes during his years in Chicago...” but was now “pushing eighty.” He writes about “Frank and his old Black Power dashiki self” giving him advice before he left for Occidental College in 1979 at the age of 18.
This “Frank” is none other than Frank Marshall Davis, the black communist writer now considered by some to be in the same category of prominence as Maya Angelou and Alice Walker. In the summer/fall 2003 issue of African American Review, James A. Miller of George Washington University reviews a book by John Edgar Tidwell, a professor at the University of Kansas, about Davis’s career, and notes, “In Davis’s case, his political commitments led him to join the American Communist Party during the middle of World War II—even though he never publicly admitted his Party membership.” Tidwell is an expert on the life and writings of Davis.
Is it possible that Obama did not know who Davis was when he wrote his book, Dreams From My Father, first published in 1995? That’s not plausible since Obama refers to him as a contemporary of Richard Wright and Langston Hughes and says he saw a book of his black poetry.
Fellow Travelers
The communists knew who “Frank” was, and they know who Obama is. In fact, one academic who travels in communist circles understands the significance of the Davis-Obama relationship.
Professor Gerald Horne, a contributing editor of the Communist Party journal Political Affairs, talked about it during a speech last March at the reception of the Communist Party USA archives at the Tamiment Library at New York University. The remarks were posted online under the headline, “Rethinking the History and Future of the Communist Party.”
Horne, a history professor at the University of Houston, noted that Davis, who moved to Honolulu from Kansas in 1948 “at the suggestion of his good friend Paul Robeson,” came into contact with Barack Obama and his family and became the young man’s mentor, influencing Obama’s sense of identity and career moves. Robeson, of course, was the well-known black actor and singer who served as a member of the CPUSA and apologist for the old Soviet Union. Davis had known Robeson from his time in Chicago.
As Horne describes it, Davis “befriended” a “Euro-American family” that had “migrated to Honolulu from Kansas and a young woman from this family eventually had a child with a young student from Kenya East Africa who goes by the name of Barack Obama, who retracing the steps of Davis eventually decamped to Chicago.”
It was in Chicago that Obama became a “community organizer” and came into contact with more far-left political forces, including the Democratic Socialists of America, which maintains close ties to European socialist groups and parties through the Socialist International (SI), and two former members of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), William Ayers and Carl Davidson.
The SDS laid siege to college campuses across America in the 1960s, mostly in order to protest the Vietnam War, and spawned the terrorist Weather Underground organization. Ayers was a member of the terrorist group and turned himself in to authorities in 1981. He is now a college professor and served with Obama on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago. Davidson is now a figure in the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (CCDS), an offshoot of the old Moscow-controlled CPUSA, and helped organize the 2002 rally where Obama came out against the Iraq War.
Another figure in the CCDS, Leslie Cagan, is an organizer of anti-Iraq War demonstrations through a group called United for Peace and Justice.
Former congressional investigator Herbert Romerstein, an expert on communist activities, said most of the members of the CCDS came out of the CPUSA, where they functioned as stooges of the Soviet Union until the fall of that dictatorship. He said it has “a close working relationship with the Stalinist remnants in the former East Germany, now called the Party of Democratic Socialism.” Romerstein said these were the people who ran the concentration camps and the Communist Party apparatus in East Germany.
Romerstein also cited evidence that after the 9/11 terrorist attacks Cagan organized the first meetings to plan opposition to any United States military action against those responsible.
The Nature Of The Threat
Both communism and socialism trace their roots to Karl Marx, co-author of the Communist Manifesto, who endorsed the first meeting of the Socialist International, then called the “First International.” According to Pierre Mauroy, president of the SI from 1992-1996, “It was he [Marx] who formally launched it, gave the inaugural address and devised its structure...”
Apparently unaware that Davis had been publicly named as a CPUSA member, Horne said only that Davis “was certainly in the orbit of the CP [Communist Party]—if not a member...”
In addition to Tidwell’s book, Black Moods: Collected Poems of Frank Marshall Davis, confirming Davis’s Communist Party membership, another book, The New Red Negro: The Literary Left and African American Poetry, 1930-1946, names Davis as one of several black poets who continued to publish in CPUSA-supported publications after the 1939 Hitler-Stalin non-aggression pact. The author, James Edward Smethurst, associate professor of Afro-American studies at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst, says that Davis, however, would later claim that he was “deeply troubled” by the pact.
While blacks such as Richard Wright left the CPUSA, it is not clear if or when Davis ever left the party.
However, Obama writes in Dreams From My Father that he saw “Frank” only a few days before he left Hawaii for college, and that Davis seemed just as radical as ever. Davis called college “An advanced degree in compromise” and warned Obama not to forget his “people” and not to “start believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that ####.” Davis also complained about foot problems, the result of “trying to force African feet into European shoes,” Obama wrote.
For his part, Horne says that Obama’s giving of credit to Davis will be important in history. “At some point in the future, a teacher will add to her syllabus Barack’s memoir and instruct her students to read it alongside Frank Marshall Davis’ equally affecting memoir, Living the Blues and when that day comes, I’m sure a future student will not only examine critically the Frankenstein monsters that US imperialism created in order to subdue Communist parties but will also be moved to come to this historic and wonderful archive in order to gain insight on what has befallen this complex and intriguing planet on which we reside,” he said.
More Confirmation
Dr. Kathryn Takara, a professor of Interdisciplinary Studies at the University of Hawaii at Manoa who also confirms that Davis is the “Frank” in Obama’s book, did her dissertation on Davis and spent much time with him between 1972 until he passed away in 1987.
In an analysis posted online, she notes that Davis, who was a columnist for the Honolulu Record, brought “an acute sense of race relations and class struggle throughout America and the world” and that he openly discussed subjects such as American imperialism, colonialism and exploitation. She described him as a “socialist realist” who attacked the work of the House Un-American Activities Committee.
Davis, in his own writings, had said that Robeson and Harry Bridges, the head of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU) and a secret member of the CPUSA, had suggested that he take a job as a columnist with the Honolulu Record “and see if I could do something for them.” The ILWU was organizing workers there and Robeson’s contacts were “passed on” to Davis, Takara writes.
Takara says that Davis “espoused freedom, radicalism, solidarity, labor unions, due process, peace, affirmative action, civil rights, Negro History week, and true Democracy to fight imperialism, colonialism, and white supremacy. He urged coalition politics.”
Is “coalition politics” at work in Obama’s rise to power?
Trevor Loudon, the New Zealand-based blogger who has been analyzing the political forces behind Obama and specializes in studying the impact of Marxist and leftist political organizations, notes that Frank Chapman, a CPUSA supporter, has written a letter to the party newspaper hailing the Illinois senator’s victory in the Iowa caucuses.
“Obama’s victory was more than a progressive move; it was a dialectical leap ushering in a qualitatively new era of struggle,” Chapman wrote. “Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface. This is the old revolutionary ‘mole,’ not only showing his traces on the surface but also breaking through.”
OBAMA’S SECRET SOCIALIST CONNECTIONS
Obama’s socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for an Illinois state senate seat. Later, the Chicago DSA newsletter reported that Obama, as a state senator, showed up to eulogize Saul Mendelson, one of the “champions” of “Chicago’s democratic left” and a long-time socialist activist. Obama’s stint as a “community organizer” in Chicago has gotten some attention, but his relationship with the DSA socialists, who groomed and backed him, has been generally ignored.
Blogger Steve Bartin, who has been following Obama’s career and involvement with the Chicago socialists, uncovered a fascinating video showing Obama campaigning for openly socialist Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. Interestingly, Sanders, who won his seat in 2006, called Obama “one of the great leaders of the United States Senate,” even though Obama had only been in the body for about two years. In 2007, the National Journal said that Obama had established himself as “the most liberal Senator.” More liberal than Sanders? That is quite a feat. Does this make Obama a socialist, too?
DSA describes itself as the largest socialist organization in the United States and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International. The Socialist International (SI) has what is called “consultative status” with the United Nations. In other words, it works hand-in-glove with the world body.
The international con-nection is important and significant because an Obama bill, “The Global Poverty Act,” has recently been rushed through the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, with the assistance of Democratic Senator Joe Biden, the chairman, and Republican Senator Richard Lugar. The legislation (S.2433) commits the U.S. to spending hundreds of billions of dollars more in foreign aid on the rest of the world, in order to comply with the “Millennium Goals” established by the United Nations. Conservative members of the committee were largely caught off-guard by the move to pass the Obama bill but are putting a “hold” on it, in order to try to prevent the legislation, which also quickly passed the House, from being quickly brought up for a full Senate vote. But observers think that Senate Democrats may try to pass it quickly anyway, in order to give Obama a precious legislative “victory” that he could run on.
Howard Dean’s Socialist Ties
Another group associated with the SI is the Party of European Socialists (PES), which heard from Howard Dean, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, back in 2006. Dean’s speech is posted on the official Democratic Party website, although the European socialist parties are referred to as “progressive.” Democrats, Dean said, want to be “good citizens of the world community.” He spoke at a session on “Global Challenges for Progressive Politics.”
Following up, in April 2007, PES President Poul Nyrup Rasmussen reported that European socialists held a meeting “in the Democrats HQ in Washington,” met with officials of the party and Democratic members of Congress. The photos of the trip show Rasmussen meeting with such figures as Senator Ben Cardin, Senator Bernie Sanders, officials of the Brookings Institution, Howard Dean, and AFL-CIO President John W. Sweeney, a member of the DSA. The Brookings Institution is headed by former Clinton State Department official Strobe Talbott, a proponent of world government who was recently identified in the book Comrade J as having been a pawn of the Russian intelligence service.
The socialist connections of Obama and the Democratic Party have certainly not been featured in the Washington Post columns of Harold Meyerson, who happens not only to be a member but a vice-chair of the DSA. Meyerson has praised convicted inside-trader George Soros for manipulating campaign finance laws to benefit the far-left elements of the Democratic Party. Obama’s success in the Democratic presidential primaries and caucuses is further evidence of Soros’s success. Indeed, Soros has financially contributed to the Obama campaign.
It is not surprising that the Chicago Democrat, Rep. Jan Schakowsky, has endorsed Obama. Schakowsky, who endorsed Howard Dean for president in 2004, was honored in 2000 at a dinner sponsored by the Chicago chapter of the DSA. Her husband, Robert Creamer, emerged from federal prison in November 2006 after serving five months for financial crimes. He pleaded guilty to ripping off financial institutions while running a non-profit group. Before he was convicted but under indictment, Creamer was hired by the Soros-funded Open Society Policy Center to sabotage John Bolton’s nomination as Ambassador to the U.N. One of the claims made against Bolton was that he had yelled at somebody 20 years ago. The allegation was made by a specialist in “recovered memories.”
After his release from prison, Creamer released a book, Listen to Your Mother: Stand up Straight: How Progressives Can Win, described by one blogger as the book that was “penned in the pen.”
VIP Clients
In addition to writing the book, Creamer is back in business, running his firm, Strategic Consulting Group, and advertising himself as “a consultant to the campaigns to end the war in Iraq, pass universal health care, change America’s budget priorities and enact comprehensive immigration reform.” His clients have included the AFL-CIO and MoveOn.org. In fact, his client list reads like a virtual who’s who of the Democratic Party, organized labor, and Democratic Party constituency groups.
Creamer’s list of testimonials comes from such figures as Democratic Senators Dick Durbin (Ill.) and Sherrod Brown (Ohio), Harold Meyerson, MoveOn.org founder Wes Boyd, and David Axelrod, a “Democratic political consultant.”
Axelrod, of course, is much more than just a “Democratic political consultant.” He helped State Senator Barack Obama win his U.S. Senate seat in 2004 and currently serves as strategist and media advisor to Obama’s presidential campaign.
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CLIFF’S NOTES
by Cliff Kincaid
DEAR FELLOW MEDIA WATCHDOG March-B 2008
BARACK OBAMA DISPLAYED HIS BIZARRE VIEWS ON FOREIGN AND domestic policy during the February 26 Democratic presidential debate but nobody in the media seemed to notice. This is a candidate who is pitifully ignorant on some of the major issues facing our nation. First, Obama showed ignorance of what led to the crisis in Kosovo, and he seemed to advocate some kind of U.S. military response through NATO. If a President Obama carried through on such a threat, it would be a foreign policy mistake of monumental proportions. It could lead to a war with Russia. Second, Obama didn’t seem to understand that in the case of the disabled woman, Terri Schiavo, the issue was about giving her the same kind of due process rights that are guaranteed to death row killers. We now know where Obama really stands, and it is not a pretty picture.
NBC’S TIM RUSSERT HAS DONE A FAIRLY GOOD JOB DURING THE DEBATES AND HE HAD some good questions of the candidates. One was when he asked Obama what he would do if Russia helped Serbia militarily take control of Kosovo, which is under United Nations and NATO occupation and recently declared its independence. Obama had a long answer: “Well, I think that we work with the international community that has also recognized Kosovo, and state that that’s unacceptable. But, fortunately, we have a strong international structure anchored in NATO to deal with this issue. We don’t have to work in isolation. And this is an area where I think that the Clinton administration deserves a lot of credit, is, you know, the way in which they put together a coalition that has functioned. It has not been perfect, but it saved lives. And we created a situation in which not only Kosovo, but other parts of the former Yugoslavia at least have the potential to over time build democracies and enter into the broader European community. But, you know, be very clear: We have recognized the country of Kosovo as an independent, sovereign nation, as has Great Britain and many other countries in the region. And I think that that carries with it, then, certain obligations to ensure that they are not invaded.”
WHAT DOES HE MEAN BY THAT? HOW DOES HE PROPOSE THAT THE U.S. AND NATO STOP AN invasion of Kosovo by Serbia? The fact is that that the U.S. agreed to Security Council Resolution 1ocirc recognizing Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo. Russia and China will oppose Kosovo’s membership in the U.N. Obama’s comments about the Clinton Administration and Kosovo are apparently a reference to Clinton’s NATO war against Serbia over who was going to control the province. That war was illegal and unconstitutional. Clinton launched it without Congressional approval and continued it when Congress failed to authorize it after the fact. Yet Obama was defending Clinton’s actions there. His statements about this foreign policy problem were reckless and ignorant. The problem for the Republicans is that Senator John McCain voted for the war against Serbia and has now, like Hillary and Obama, expressed support for Kosovo’s declaration of independence. Please send the enclosed postcard to Senator James Inhofe of Oklahoma about this. He is one of the Senators warning against pursuing this dangerous pro-Kosovo foreign policy.
ON THE SCHIAVO CASE, OBAMA SAID THE FOLLOWING, “WELL, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST arrived in the Senate that first year, we had a situation surrounding Terri Schiavo. And I remember how we adjourned with a unanimous agreement that eventually allowed Congress to interject itself into that decision-making process of the families. It wasn’t something I was comfortable with, but it was not something that I stood on the floor and stopped. And I think that was a mistake, and I think the American people understood that that was a mistake. And as a constitutional law professor, I knew better. And so that’s an example I think of where inaction...” Russert explained, “This is the young woman with the feeding tube and the family disagreed as to whether it should be removed or not.” Obama replied, “And I think that’s an example of inaction, and sometimes that can be as costly as action.”
ONCE AGAIN, OBAMA DEMONSTRATED HIS IGNORANCE OF THE TRUE FACTS. CONGRESS decided to “interject itself” into the situation because the family was divided over caring for the brain-damaged woman and there had been no federal review of the facts in the case. All that Congress did was authorize a federal judge to examine the situation. This is guaranteed to all federal inmates on death row so they are not executed without complete respect for their due process rights. Isn’t a disabled woman entitled to similar rights? Many forget that Schiavo’s parents and siblings only wanted the right to keep her alive and take care of her. It was her estranged husband who wanted her dead. What harm would have been caused by letting her live? Obama’s statement that he wanted Congress to stay out of this matter and that he personally should have “stopped” congressional action reflects a callous disregard for the rights of disabled people. And yet he claimed to be speaking during the debate as someone with the experience of “a constitutional law professor.” In fact, Congress should have done more; Schiavo was eventually starved to death by her estranged husband after a federal judge refused to save her life. If the constitution doesn’t protect the rights of the most innocent and defenseless among us, what good is it? What constitution did Obama study in law school? Where did he get his ideas about human worth and dignity? During a previous debate, on this very subject, McCain sounded like Obama, saying that “In retrospect, we should have taken some more time, looked at it more carefully, and probably we acted too hastily.” In effect, McCain was repudiating the effort to save Terri’s life. So once again we have a major issue facing the country and yet there is really no difference between Obama and McCain. Please send he enclosed postcard to Senator McCain, asking him to come down on the side of life.
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Pure tripe. Guilt by association. This piece is just trash.
Using this kind of logic, the Pope and George Bush are Nazi’s. Give me a break.
Obama has many ties to people who do not approve of America and her government. This man is an unexperienced politican who will network with anyone for political gain. Marxist? Socialist? Communist? The American people need to prevent the loss of our way of life and freedoms.
I think it is a valid criticism to bring up Obama’s “unexperience[]”(sic).
However, trying to call Obama a “marxist” on such flimsy an argument as the one above will likely drive away moderate voters from McCain.
Obama has argued against these kinds of ruthless tactics that rabid fanatics have employed in the past. Those tactics worked against Kerry and Gore, but Republicans outspent Gore and Kerry back then. Obama’s fundraising will be more than enough to cause serious blowback if this kind of stuff keeps happening.
Crazy people don’t listen to reason and I don’t expect anyone to heed to my warnings. Just try not to act surprised when it happens.
Communist or not, susceptibility to communism is what America seems to be facing with respect to its 2008 candidates - a dangerous policy of playing with fire - that most Americans may not be aware of.
If that is the fight, Americans need to step up to the plate, and struggle through the hypocrisy of disillusion by open debate to find and stand its ground.
That this is the dilemma for Americans might be found in the polls that have either Democratic candidate neck and neck with McCain but with slight favoritism for McCain.
Communism is not dead. By the way, there are now two United States. Conservative US and Communist/Facist US. Liberals are definately in the later. You will see when all their venom come out for me writing this. If a person doesn’t agree with their positions, insult, belittle, or do anything to shut up the opposition including the race card. Another civil war is on the horizon in this country.
The idea that Obama is a Marxist mole makes sense. He’s gone to a lot of trouble to build all of these relationships, he moved to Chicago from Hawaii! He could have gone anywhere and associated with anyone. This speaks to his judgement, and when kicking the tires of a new presidential candidate, you look for what kind of judgement they have.
Any chance we can weed out Ayers and the rest of them??
Disquieted,
How do you know how much trouble Obama has gone to “build all of these relationships”? You don’t know anything. You can’t read his mind.
You think he is a communist because he moved from Hawaii to Chicago? Seriously?
Why don’t we discuss what Obama actually says about issues rather than trying to read his mind here folks. Why isn’t anyone interested in that these days? I guess it is a little bit more difficult to argue factually than it is recklessly assigning venal motives and using guilt by association.
All this is a result of socialist policies enacted by the “Great Society” that made it possible and profitable for the third world underclass types to procreate and repopulate a once-great country established by freedom-minded federalist types.
As a result, the “proletariat” now outnumbers true Americans and has reached the tipping point where a closet pinko Moslem whack job like this conceivably COULD get elected (with the help of Chicago-style Democrat ballot-box antics).
Who was it that said something to the effect that any democracy can exist only until a disgruntled underclass figures out that it can vote itself into income redistribution (socialism) through power-hungry pandering politicians (democrats)?
God help the United States!
This guy, Barack Hussien Obama scares me to death. John McCain is certainly not my favorite candidate but at least he is not a communist and I plan on voting for him because the alternative would be the beginning of the end for this country as we know it.
Live free or die hard!
Ever wonder what it would be like if we are attacked from within? Imagen, Obama holding a Tv. conference on how he entered talks with terrorist states. Imagen his talks worked out a peace deal for 7years. This includes giving nukes to the terrorist states.
Now, image everything falls apart in a blink of an eye.
Now, replay the whole thing, for a second time.
Replay it again for a third time in real life.
Now, all you have to do, is watch it play out, for the forth and final time.
Remember: You only get three warnings.
Raineswolf,
Your argument is entirely consistent of paranoia and baseless speculation taken as fact.
We (the Bush Administration) are already talking with Iran on many levels. SecDef Gates also recognizes that sooner or later, we need to open up that dialogue. What we are doing now isn’t working. I hope you are not so naive not to see that.
I’d put him more as a Democratic Socialist, which would lead to Socialism and then Communism. Its a path that we have been on for some time. A one world socialist government is likely in time.
Some think that it would protect the rights of the poeple, empower them with wealth and control of their own life. Myself I feel that in the end those in power, the governments, non-government organizations and businesses, would instead create tyranny for the masses while attempting to hold and enlarge their own power.
People cannot be in control of their individual lives when governments, non-government are so large as to take away their free choice. How much do you control of your life without some form of influence from either government, non-government organizations, or business? Not much in reality, and it will likely be less in the future.
People are known by the company they keep. Obama’s ties with communists and marxist’s are a reason to be VERY concerned.
When will the media quit coddling Obama, and begin to ask some hard and legitimate questions.
The American people have a right to know who the hell Obama really is and what he stands for.
The Amercan way died with Jfk. I Hope Obama can make some real changes and not just start a war to inflate his stock portfolio!
I find it amazing that presumably intelligent people are still seeing Commies under the bed. Obama doesn’t scare me half as much as the people posting to this blog do.
As a political independent, I want to say that this sort of crap is what drives people like me away from the Republican party, even though I’m sympathetic with the Evangelical wing of the Republicans.
This is just like all the other crap that has been spewed out by Republican smear campaigns over the years.
Keep it up. The Democrats are going to bury you all this year.
The facts are there are unsavoury characters wherever Obama has been. So he gives the same simple speech over and over again. If he had had humility, he would have served a few more years in the Senate. He doesn’t deserve, nor has he merited, in any way, the Presidency of the United States of America. His closest friends and relatives are choc full of muslims or socialists. Look up yourself about his socialist qaddafi backed cousin Odinga in Kenya who is pushing sharia law now. Just too many warning signals here. We know John McCain though, who earned our knowledge and support long ago. Vote McCain and say your prayers for Mac, is what I say.
The facts are there? No. You are merely a gullible fool. That story about Odinga is absolutely false according to snopes.com.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kenya.asp
I wonder how many of you guys believe everything you read - as long as it just attacks Obama.
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http://obamaism.blogspot.com/
“Socialism, Marxism, Communism & Obama”
ISMisBAD,
It is pretty darn ironic that someone who supposedly argues that Obama is a marxist won’t even allow comments on his website. Maybe you are more of a marxist in spirit than Barack Obama could ever be. Why else do you fear what people will say? Eh, comrade?
Obama is not only a Socialist, who wants Americans to hand over their hard earned cash, in a grandiose scheme to redistribute America’s wealth ... he spent 20 years listening to the anti-American, racist sermons of black liberation pastor Jeremiah Wright, which were based upon Marxist ideology ... along with his wife and two children ... and they still attend the same church, listening to the same anti-American trash!
Well, I’m glad that we’re at least having an intelligent dialogue about this and not spewing idiotic rhetoric. 
Why does it seem that everything is idiotic rhetoric when you disagree with it?
Why is it wrong to question a man’s associations when trying to determine what makes him who he is?
The association with Ayers is tenuous, but does exist. I do not worry too much about it by itself… but it is part of a pattern.
A pattern reinforced by associations with Frank Davis, Jeremiah Wright and Father Pfleger. How can Halliburton possibly be in-bounds… but every possibly negative association of Obama’s out of bounds? The names above have all been referred to as mentors by Obama himself.
Are we allowed to consider his voting record in Congress when making determinations about him? He has always been very far left, but has moved hard-left in recent years. An attempt to appeal to a new constituency? Or his true politics? Either answer concerns me. Am I allowed to say that?
While I do not think Obama is a “secret” Muslim, both his father and step-father were Muslims. Which is fine, there are many wonderful Muslims in the world; but it might affect his worldview. In the same way I had misgivings about Mitt Romney (a practicing Mormon); I reserve the right to question (to a lesser degree) how Obama’s Muslim upbringing might impact his decisions as President.
In my opinion, his willingness to meet with Ahmadinejad could be an indication of this. Or simply naivete, hard to say. His support of Israel is very questionable, and he has shown the typical American-left amount of support for Palestine. Again, fine. I just disagree. Is that OK? Or am I a racist loon now? I am not trying to draw some sort of direct line between Obama’s upbringing and his support of Palestine… but I do feel we are all the sum of our parts and Muslim school was part of Obama’s life.
What I do not understand is why the Left runs away from it. Why not embrace it? A big part of the Left in America is pro-Palestine without ever having attended Muslim school… so why is Obama being shielded like this. Stand up for what you believe in, and let us vote accordingly.
That is all we want.
Paulo, Disguieted is a portmanteau for disgusted and disquieted.
Anywho, here’s a quote from Dreams of My Father
“I chose my friends carefully.The more politically active black students.The foreign students.The Chicanos.The Marxist Professors and the structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets.At night,in the dorms,we discussed neocolonialism,Franz Fanon,Eurocentrism,and patriarchy.When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake,we were resisting bourgeois society’s stifling constraints.”
So no, I don’t need to read Obama’s mind, just his writings. He has clearly stated that he sought out people based upon ideology. (No disrespect to the punk-rock performance poets).
People had better research this man before they vote for him. He is by all means a socialist/marxist. The left wing idiots are going to regret putting him in office. As soon as he takes their money and distributes it to all the poor and has America class-less. What a shame they have such tunnell vision. God Bless Us all if Obama gets in. Study his profile people and research where he has been, who his friends are and where and who his “mentors” have been. Mari Ana
I simply ask that you examine the basic tenants of socialism, and examine your own beliefs about socialist policies first, then compare the candidates. The former relationships are interesting and certainly tell us something, but the proof is in the policies. Socialist policies are becoming more and more prevalent in America.
There seems to be little or no doubt that Obama is more of a communist than a socialist. McCain must win to keep America in tact.
I have a question for people who say Obama isn’t a Marxist. Please tell me how Obama’s philosophy differs from those of Marx. I’m asking about his philosophy, not his family background.
I too am an Independent. I am right down the middle in my beliefs. I was on the fence as I am in every election.
Obama has PUSHED me to McCain/Palin (I always liked McCain but just don’t have all of the same views).
The associations with these people are very real…. whether small ones or not.. as Rick said - they show a pattern.
If he gets into the white house.. I’m really afraid of what is going to happen to this country.
You know, a classmate and I share the experience of having an anarcho-syndicalist teacher. What we both have in common is that we enjoy his class. What we differ on is political view—-he is an ardent republican, while I am somewhat of a Rooseveltian leftist. I can tell you that this teacher definitely does not have an influence on his political views, nor does he on mine.
Victor, I agree that having a Marxist teacher doesn’t make you a Marxist. However, I repeat ,y question from before. How are Obama and Marx different in philosophy? Better yet, Google a few quotes from Vladimir Lenin and see who they remind you of. Lenin said, “The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation. ” That is Obama’s economic plan in a nutshell.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080309151637AAJMhgx
The “An American Expat in Southeast Asia” blog reports that Obama’s Indonesian schooling began when he was entered into the Roman Catholic, Franciscus Assisi Primary School on January 1, 1968 and sat in class 1B. He was registered under the name Barry Soetoro, serial number 203. School documents listed Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and his religion was listed as Islam. He will spend three years at Franciscus.
Catholic schools accept non-Catholics worldwide. Non-Catholic students are typically excused from religious instruction and ceremony.
1971
Obama’s family moves from H Ramir Street to Dempo Street and Obama enters the 4th grade at the Besuki Primary School, a government school. He was enrolled as Barry Soetoro, Muslim.
1971
All Indonesian students are required to study religion at school and a young Barry Soetoro, being a Muslim, would have been required to study Islam daily in school.
He would have been taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam.
In his autobiography, “Dreams From My Father,” Obama mentions studying the Quran and describes the public school as “a Muslim school.”
According to Tine Hahiyary, one of Obama’s teachers and the principal from 1971 through 1989, Barry actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his time at the school. His teacher was named Maimunah and she lived in the Puncak area, the Cianjur Regency. “I remembered that he had studied “mengaji” (recitation of the Quran)” Tine said.
Obama himself recalls, “In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies.”
Our guy in Jakarta writes: “The actual usage of the word ‘mengaji’ in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue. “Mengagi” is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, ‘mengaji classes’ are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to. To put this in a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child in Sunday school classes.”
“The fact that Obama had attended mengaji classes is well known in Indonesia and has left many there wondering just when Obama is going to come out of the closet.”
“As I’ve stated before, the evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such.”
These are the values of Obama’s church:
Commitment to God. “The God of our weary years” will give us the strength to give up prayerful passivism and become Black Christian Activists, soldiers for Black freedom and the dignity of all humankind.
Commitment to the Black Community. The highest level of achievement for any Black person must be a contribution of strength and continuity of the Black Community.
Commitment to the Black Family. The Black family circle must generate strength, stability and love, despite the uncertainty of externals, because these characteristics are required if the developing person is to withstand warping by our racist competitive society.
Those Blacks who are blessed with membership in a strong family unit must reach out and expand that blessing to the less fortunate.
Dedication to the Pursuit of Education. We must forswear anti-intellectualism. Continued survival demands that each Black person be developed to the utmost of his/her mental potential despite the inadequacies of the formal education process. “Real education” fosters understanding of ourselves as well as every aspect of our environment. Also, it develops within us the ability to fashion concepts and tools for better utilization of our resources, and more effective solutions to our problems. Since the majority of Blacks have been denied such learning, Black Education must include elements that produce high school graduates with marketable skills, a trade or qualifications for apprenticeships, or proper preparation for college.
Basic education for all Blacks should include Mathematics, Science, Logic, General Semantics, Participative Politics, Economics and Finance, and the Care and Nurture of Black minds.
Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence. To the extent that we individually reach for, even strain for excellence, we increase, geometrically, the value and resourcefulness of the Black Community. We must recognize the relativity of one’s best; this year’s best can be bettered next year. Such is the language of growth and development. We must seek to excel in every endeavor.
Adherence to the Black Work Ethic. “It is becoming harder to find qualified people to work in Chicago.” Whether this is true or not, it represents one of the many reasons given by businesses and industries for deserting the Chicago area. We must realize that a location with good facilities, adequate transportation and a reputation for producing skilled workers will attract industry. We are in competition with other cities, states and nations for jobs. High productivity must be a goal of the Black workforce.
Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect. To accomplish anything worthwhile requires self-discipline. We must be a community of self-disciplined persons if we are to actualize and utilize our own human resources, instead of perpetually submitting to exploitation by others. Self-discipline, coupled with a respect for self, will enable each of us to be an instrument of Black Progress and a model for Black Youth.
Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness.” Classic methodology on control of captives teaches that captors must be able to identify the “talented tenth” of those subjugated, especially those who show promise of providing the kind of leadership that might threaten the captor’s control.
Those so identified are separated from the rest of the people by:
Killing them off directly, and/or fostering a social system that encourages them to kill off one another.
Placing them in concentration camps, and/or structuring an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.
Seducing them into a socioeconomic class system which, while training them to earn more dollars, hypnotizes them into believing they are better than others and teaches them to think in terms of “we” and “they” instead of “us.”
So, while it is permissible to chase “middleclassness” with all our might, we must avoid the third separation method – the psychological entrapment of Black “middleclassness.” If we avoid this snare, we will also diminish our “voluntary” contributions to methods A and B. And more importantly, Black people no longer will be deprived of their birthright: the leadership, resourcefulness and example of their own talented persons.
Pledge to Make the Fruits of All Developing and Acquired Skills Available to the Black Community.
Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions.
Pledge Allegiance to All Black Leadership Who Espouse and Embrace the Black Value System.
Personal Commitment to Embracement of the Black Value System. To measure the worth and validity of all activity in terms of positive contributions to the general welfare of the Black Community and the Advancement of Black People towards freedom.
Now substitute every word that says “black” with “white” and ask yourself if we would be racist or what would Jesse Jackson or Al say?
This does speak of harmony with our fellow Americans of all race.
Source(s):
http://www.tucc.org/black_value_system.h...
You people are scary sick. Starting from a position of “Barack Obama is a black man and must never be elected”, you spin and fabricate all manner of fictional diatribes to make your case.
The end never justifies the means, and in this case your means are craven and evil. It’s a good thing that mainstream America is smarter than to buy the bull being spread by nut jobs like you.
Michael, you are the typical Obamabot. When someone disagrees with Obama it has to be racial. Michael, do you know what Marxism is? If so, enlighten us and tell us how Obama and Marx are different.
Typical Obamabot? Gimme a break.
Okay, Andy, perhaps your motivations aren’t racial. (Or at least you say they aren’t.) Regardless of you motivations, the rest of what I said still stands. Achieving your ends does not justify your nefarious means.
Marx believed that the means of production should be owned by the workers, and that capital was a tool through which the ownership classes oppressed the workers. Marx was extreme. Obama is mainstream - he understands that capital is the engine by which the economy is propelled. Obama is not Marxist, and it’s only through the anonymity of the Internet that you goons are able to spin your fictional webs to try and make that case.
Appropriate levels of regulation are not the same thing as Marxism. The financial meltdown we’re seeing today is the result of insufficient regulation. Us regular folks out here in mainstream America see and understand that. You folks here in your John Birch-inspired echo chamber seem unable to make that distinction.
Just because Obama is mainstream doesn’t mean that he isn’t Marxist. Communism often becomes the mainstream. Obama wants to redistribute wealth by taxing the wealthy. Lenin (Vladimir not John) said, “The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.” That’s Obama’s economic plan in a nutshell.
Obama himself wrote, “To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists.”
I not only claim not to be a racist. I am dead seious about it. I taught in a predominately black school. I always fought for those kids and did everything in my power to prove that they were just as capable as white kids. By the way, I succeeded in doing so. My kids always performed well on standardized tests (the ones you liberals like to call racist) in a district and school that performed poorly. I had six black kids last year go from nearly failing the previous grade to making the gifted program. You know how I did it? I unbrainwashed them of all the liberal crap they were taught growing up. I helped them see that they were in charge of their own success. Once they realized that and started achieving success, they were unstoppable.
You would do good to learn the same lesson. Taxing the rich and giving it to the poor will not help the poor at all. They need financial education or they will create more debt for themselves. Also, the rich will make up for the lost revenue from the extra taxes by cutting jobs and raising prices. Do you think Obama’s tax cut on the middle class will compensate for the lost jobs and higher prices? Everyone says that Obama will only raise taxes on people who make over $250,000. They say so what, I only make $60,000. the problem is that their boss does make over $250,000 and cuts their job to compensate.
Andy, is there any *new* content up here? You’re copying and pasting the same stuff people said earlier in this discussion. I guess that’s just how an echo chamber works…
You make broad assumptions about my political leanings and my attitudes. I’ve achieved whatever level of middle-class success I’ve got purely by merit of my own abilities and hard work, and have never expected any handouts, so don’t try and cram me into whatever mental image you carry of “liberal.”
“Just because Obama is mainstream doesn’t mean that he isn’t Marxist”? Please. By that same logic, you could state that most of America is Marxist. What is your definition of “mainstream”?
And by the way, it was John Lennon, not John Lenin. But thanks for the disambiguation, it’ll be helpful to the other pinheads reading this site.
Well, Michael,answer the question. What is going to happen to the jobs of people who make about $50,000 when Obama raises taxes on thier bosses? Is Obama going to wave his magic wand and keep them from raising prices? Keep drinking the Kool-Aid my friend.
*Nothing* is going to happen to those $50k jobs. You grossly oversimplify the economics to imply that a boss’s higher income tax rate will translate directly to the loss of jobs by their underlings.
The reality is not as cut-and-dried as you portray it. Ayn Rand was ultimately not that great a writer, Neal Pert notwithstanding. And while you beat the drum loudly to build fear of some kind of “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”, the reality is far less intimidating.
Don’t look now, Andy, but I think somebody just peed in *your* Kool-Aid…
Again, you are the typical Obamabot. You make general statements like “You are oversimplifying” and can’t seem to come up with an answer with any substance whatsoever. YOu are like the rest of the misinformed “middle class”. I have been poor and sould be “rich” by Obama’s standards by next year. I started my own business and I create jobs. The Bush tax cut helped me to do so. An Obama tax hike will make it harder for my business to grow. But what do I know, I am just another guy who had the audacity to go from poor to rich instead of whining about my middle class status. Try learning another skill or two. Read a book intead of waiting for Obamessiah to make your life better. Take responsibility for yourselves, instead of waiting for Obama to “Robin Hood” more of my paycheck and give it to you.
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Obama is going to get blasted in the general election for being an unwavering socialist. Keep this nut out of the White House at all costs.