Blood On the Hands of Obama’s Terror Associate
AIM Report | By Wes Vernon and Cliff Kincaid | July 23, 2008
One argument used by the defendants (and not contradicted) was that the Weather Underground was taking orders and direction from Castro’s Cuba.
Barack
Obama was asked, during one of the Democratic presidential debates, about his
relationship with communist terrorist Bill Ayers. But the more controversial
relationship was with his wife, communist terrorist Bernardine Dohrn. Both were
present and hosted Obama when he launched a run for the Illinois State Senate.
In effect, Ayers and Dohrn sponsored Obama’s political career. But it has now
come to light that Dohrn repeatedly refused to deny credible reports that she
planted a bomb at a police station that killed a law enforcement officer.
Shouldn’t
Obama be asked about the reported involvement of his political associate in
cold-blooded murder?
This revelation is important because the Weather
Underground terrorists have long peddled the line that their bombings didn’t
kill anybody, except themselves. The book flap for Ayers’ book, Fugitive
Days, insists that the organization carried out “strategic, bloodless
bombings, including one inside the Pentagon.” This is a Big Lie.
The Legal Link
The ties
between Dohrn and Barack and Michelle Obama may run deep. From 1984-1988, Dohrn
worked at Sidley & Austin, a law firm, which is also where Obama and his
wife Michelle worked and met. “For three years after law school, Michelle
worked as an associate in the area of marketing and intellectual property at
Chicago law firm Sidley and Austin, where she met Barack Obama,” the official
Obama campaign website reports. But it says nothing about meeting or knowing
Dohrn.
Ayers had
told the New York Times—ironically in its edition of Sept. 11, 2001—“I feel we
didn’t do enough” in those days. It looks like Dohrn shares that view. Indeed,
a witness who questioned Dohrn tells AIM the onetime fugitive from justice
refused to deny she planted a bomb on the window ledge of a police station in San Francisco that killed
a policeman.
But she
has never been held accountable for this murder.
Newspaper
accounts at the time put the number of people wounded at nine. Riddled with
shrapnel, Sgt. Brian V. McDonnell died two days later at San Francisco General Hospital.
A memorial was held for him in February of 2007.
“Sergeant
McDonnell caught the full force of the flying shrapnel, which consisted of
heavy metal staples and lead bullets. As other officers tried rendering aid to
the fallen sergeant, they could see that he sustained a severed neck artery
wound and severe wounds to his eyes and neck,” the San Francisco Police
Officers Association Journal reports.
“Officers
[Ron] Martin and [Al] Arnaud, who were standing several feet from the window
ledge, were knocked to the ground and sustained injuries from the flying
glass,” it says. The blast caused them hearing impairment and shock. One
officer was knocked to the floor unconscious, while another “suffered multiple
severe wounds on his face, cheek and legs from the flying fragments of the
glass.”
The
original testimony about Dohrn’s involvement in this came during a hearing by
the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee on October 18, 1974. On that date,
FBI undercover agent Larry Grathwohl testified at length on his penetration of
the Weathermen and how he learned firsthand of its violent aims on America.
Under
questioning from the panel’s veteran counsel J.G. “Jay” Sourwine, Grathwohl
testified that with the Weathermen, an offshoot of the Students for a
Democratic Society (SDS), “it was no longer a question of changing the system
from within. It was to destroy the system, completely destroy it, and that is what
they said the first time I met them, and that is what they said the last time I
was with them.”
Grathwohl
also testified about a specific bombing:
“When he
[Bill Ayers] returned, we had another meeting at which time—and this is the
only time that any Weathermen told me about something that someone else had
done—and Bill started off telling us about the need to raise the level of the
struggle and for stronger leadership inside the Weathermen ‘focals’ [cells] and
inside the Weatherman organization as a whole. And [what] he cited as one of
the real problems was that someone like Bernardine Dohrn had to plan, develop
and carry out the bombing of the police station in San Francisco, and he specifically named her
as the person that committed that act.”
Grathwohl
added that Ayers “said that the bomb was placed on the window ledge and he
described the kind of bomb that was used to the extent of saying what kind of
shrapnel was used in it.”
He was
asked, “Did he say who placed the bomb on the window ledge?” He replied,
“Bernardine Dohrn.”
Asked
if Ayers said that he had personally witnessed Dohrn placing the bomb,
Grathwohl responded, “Well, if he wasn’t there to see it, somebody who was
there told him about it, because he stated it very emphatically.”
This
testimony completely obliterates the notion, perpetuated by the Chicago Tribune
and other media, that the bombings only killed the bombers themselves. Such
propaganda is designed to play down the serious nature of the terrorist crimes
and make Obama’s relationship with Ayers and Dohrn more palatable.
Ayers
Praised Dohrn
Grathwohl
includes this conversation with Ayers in his 1976 book, Bringing Down America:
An FBI Informer with the Weathermen. The park police station bombing in San Francisco was “a
success,” Ayers is quoted as saying, “but it’s a shame when someone like
Bernardine Dohrn has to make all the plans, make the bomb, and then place it
herself. She should have to do only the planning.”
What a
shame that Dohrn had to do all the dirty work. But it’s probably safe to assume
that Ayers either helped her or knew about it in advance.
Grathwohl
reveals that Ayers himself knew how to make bombs and didn’t care about people
being killed. At one point, he says, Ayers displayed a diagram of a bomb, with
dynamite and a fuse. The plan was to bomb a police station but an objection was
raised that it would also destroy a nearby restaurant. “We’ll blow out the Red
Barn restaurant,” Grathwohl said. “Maybe even kill a few innocent customers—and most of them are black.”
“We can’t
protect all the innocent people in the world,” Ayers replied. “Some will get
killed. Some of us will get killed. We have to accept that fact.”
Grathwohl
says the Weather Under-ground (WUO) also considered using kidnappings and
assassinations in order to bring about their communist revolution in the U.S.
Possible kidnapping targets were Vice President Spiro Agnew and presidential
aide Henry Kissinger.
The KU Appearance
The Monday
March 8, 1982 edition of The University Daily Kansan, the student newspaper
of the University
of Kansas, ran a story
about the campus appearance the previous Friday of Bernadine Dohrn. She
declared, “Those of us who participated in the [Vietnam] anti-war movement were not
drastic enough.”
Considering
the testimony that she was responsible for planting the bomb in San Francisco on Feb. 16,
1970 that killed Police Sgt. Brian V. McDonnell, who caught the full force of
the flying shrapnel, one wonders what would qualify as “drastic enough.”
AIM has
been in contact with a witness to the events of the day of Dohrn’s 1982
appearance on the KU campus. John B. Barrett, then a third semester law student
at the university, showed up at the meeting where Dohrn was speaking against
the war then in El Salvador.
That was at a time when a Soviet-backed insurgency was out to take over that
beleaguered country. President Reagan’s determination not to let the Soviets
gain one square inch of territory on his watch was instrumental in putting the
kibosh on that aggression. Reagan had a policy of supporting the government of El Salvador.
As Barrett
(now a practicing attorney in Goddard, Kansas) e-mailed this writer, “Using Larry Grathwohl’s
testimony, and a pamphlet by ex-FBI agents, I asked Dohrn how she could condemn
killing by the U.S.
government when she had killed one police officer and injured others. Her
response was, ‘Larry’s a pig.’ I asked about the incident at least two more
times, and got the same response each time.” Through it all, as Barrett tells
us, Dohrn’s two male companions tried to shout him down; Dohrn told them to let
him speak.
And then
this:
“DOHRN
NEVER SAID THAT GRATHWOHL HAD LIED OR DENIED THAT SHE HAD PLANNED AND CARRIED
OUT THE BOMBING THAT KILLED THE OFFICER IN SAN FRANCISCO [Caps in original
e-mail].”
During her
appearance at KU, Dohrn also alleged that the U.S. government “is the main enemy
of the people of the world” and that “Resorting to violence is painful and
tragic, but with a slave/master situation, something has to be done.”
The Manson Murders
Not so coincidentally,
members of the SDS such as Ayers and Dohrn were becoming members of the Weather
Underground and engaging in numerous bombings and other violence as the case of
Charles Manson and his “family” emerged in 1969. Manson had taken a group of
young people, subjected them to heavy drug use, and ordered them to commit mass
murder. On the Weather Underground and their drug use, Ayers writes in his own
book, Fugitive Days, “Marijuana was available everywhere—every party,
every gathering, every meeting.”
Dohrn
went further, praising the psychopath Manson as a true “revolutionary,” adding,
“First they killed those pigs [i.e., the victims, including a pregnant movie
actress], then they ate dinner in the same room with them. Then they even
shoved a fork into one’s stomach. Wild.”
In her
“Declaration of a State of War,”
Dohrn said, “We fight in many ways. Dope is one of our weapons. The laws
against marijuana mean that millions of us are outlaws long before we actually
split. Guns and grass are united in the youth underground.”
The
pro-Manson comments were delivered by Dohrn at a national SDS “War Council” in
December of 1969. Those in attendance included SDS leader Mark Rudd, who also
gave a speech. Rudd was a subject of an April 27, 2008, sympathetic article in
the Washington Post about a “Columbia 68” “reunion” of SDS members and
student radicals who had taken over campus buildings. Lee Bollinger, president
of Columbia and
a board member of the Post, delivered a welcoming address and participated in a
panel discussion.
The Post
article about the event neglected to mention that Rudd had been to Communist
Cuba before he led the riots and the takeover of Columbia University.
Rudd wrote an SDS pamphlet, titled simply Columbia, which declared that during the “occupation” of Columbia University,
“It was no accident that we hung up pictures of Karl Marx and Malcom X and Che
Guevara and flew red flags from the tops of two buildings.” The pamphlet
concluded with a quotation from Communist Chinese mass murderer Mao Tse-Tung,
“Dare to struggle, dare to win.”
The Dohrn-Soros
Connection
Dohrn is
now a Clinical Associate Professor in the Bluhm Legal Clinic at Northwestern
School of Law and an adjunct faculty member of the University of
Illinois/Chicago in the Department of Criminal Justice. Her curriculum vitae
shows participation in several American Bar Association (ABA) events and even a
Department of Justice conference. She was involved in a “Peace Studies Program”
at Colgate University
and served on the board of the “Peace Museum” in Chicago,
an entity currently funded by the Playboy Foundation.
Most
interesting, however, are her appearances at events sponsored by the Open
Society Institute (OSI) of billionaire leftist George Soros. The Baltimore, Maryland
branch of the OSI on May 12, 2004, hosted Dohrn at a forum on criminal justice
issues and discipline in schools. In 1999, Dohrn participated in an OSI
event at New York
University on “families
in a free society,” with a focus on welfare reform and child welfare. (Another
WUO member, Linda Evans, was given a Soros grant to “increase civic
participation of former prisoners.”)
An objective observer might conclude that
Ayers, Dohrn and their comrades are now dedicated to creating a new student and
youth movement, like the one they participated in which eventually developed
into a full-blown terrorist organization that killed our fellow citizens and
tried to eliminate the “Thin Blue Line” of police separating us from the
criminals. In this new crusade, they not only have an inspiring leader,
Barack Obama, who attracts young people with his promise of “change,” but a
moneybags named Soros, who has funded causes such as rights for convicted
felons and legalization of dope.
“I have very high regard for Hillary Clinton,
but I think Obama has the charisma and the vision to radically reorient America in the
world,” Soros told Judy Woodruff of Bloomberg Television. “I think that he has
shown to be a really unusual person.”
Where’s The Justice?
So how do
communist-backed terror bombers escape justice for their crimes and end up
introducing Barack Obama to the wider world of American politics?
To answer
that, one must recall the post-Watergate anti-intelligence culture that began
in the Ford years and accelerated in the Carter administration, in which
concern over a huge slave empire’s drive for world domination was deemed “an
inordinate fear of communism,” to quote Jimmy Carter.
Roy M.
Cohn, best known as chief counsel to the old McCarthy committee, captured the
tenor of the times:
“During
the 1970s, the American internal security and counter-intelligence community
[including congressional committees investigating communism] was virtually
destroyed….by a sensation-seeking national media which utilized selective
“leaks” and disclosures in order to present a bizarre, distorted picture of the
purpose and operations of the intelligence, counter-intelligence and internal
security agencies.”
In those years, the FBI’s hands were tied
by such prohibitions as being forbidden to clip news stories of subversive
activities or building a file on individual subversives and terrorists.
Meanwhile, the anti-intelligence lobby was going full tilt. Groups such as the
communist-front National Lawyers Guild, and the pro-Marxist Institute for Policy
Studies worked openly with the American Civil Liberties Union.
The Carter Justice Department prosecuted FBI agents Mark
Felt (later revealed as “Deep Throat” in the Watergate case) and Edward S.
Miller who were in pursuit of radicals in the Weather Underground (the renamed
Weathermen) who had planted bombs not only in San Francisco but in New York,
Los Angeles and in Washington at the U.S. Capitol and other federal buildings.
It was left to President Reagan to pardon the agents. He
declared:
“During their long careers,
Mark Felt and Edward Miller served the Federal Bureau of Investigation and our
nation with great distinction. To punish them further—after 3 years of criminal
prosecution proceedings— would not serve the ends of justice.
“Their
convictions in the U.S. District Court, on appeal at the time I signed the
pardons, grew out of their good-faith belief that their actions were necessary
to preserve the security interests of our country. The record demonstrates that
they acted not with criminal intent, but in the belief that they had grants of
authority reaching to the highest levels of government.
“America was at war in 1972, and Messrs. Felt and
Miller followed procedures they believed essential to keep the Director of the
FBI, the Attorney General, and the President of the United States advised of the
activities of hostile foreign powers and their collaborators in this
country...”
One
argument used by the defendants (and not contradicted) was that the Weather
Underground was taking orders and direction from Castro’s Cuba.
The Cuban Connection
Herbert Romerstein, former investigator for the House
Committee on Un-American Activities and the House Internal Security Committee,
has said that “What is significant today are the neo-communists—many of them
are what we call red diaper babies and they came out of communist families. But
they were disappointed in the Soviet Union
back in the 1960’s and 1970’s and they were disappointed that the American
Communist Party was so weak. So, they said they were communists and they were
better communists than the American Communist Party. I think a better term for people like Bill
Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn are neo-communists.
They were not party members, but they were fighting on behalf of the
countries that the Soviet Union controlled or
created.”
Romerstein
noted that “A group of the Weathermen went down to Cuba in the so-called Venceremos
Brigade, and some of them received training in terrorist activities.
“One of
their instructors was named Julian Torres-Rizo. Rizo was an officer of the
Cuban DGI, the intelligence service. He was assigned to work with the young
Americans who were coming down ostensibly to cut sugar cane. They were really
coming down for training. And we have one of Rizo’s speeches in which he says,
‘You come from a society that must be destroyed. It’s your job to destroy your
society.’
“Well,
Bernardine Dohrn and her cronies published Rizo’s speech and I have the copy
that they published so we know what he did and what they said. And Rizo later
became the Cuban Ambassador to Grenada at the time of Maurice Bishop and he was
still the Cuban Ambassador when Bishop was murdered by his own comrades and
finally had to leave and go back to Cuba where he became a member of the
central committee of the Cuban Communist Party.
“He’s a
very significant communist apparatchik and he was a tremendous influence on the
Weather Underground…he helped the terrorists that were fighting against us at
that time.”
DEAR FELLOW MEDIA WATCHDOG August-A 2008
HAVING FAILED TO STOP A $50 BILLION AIDS BILL, SENATE
REPUBLICANS are now examining whether they have the spine to stand up to
Majority Leader Harry Reid on what is called the “Coburn Omnibus.” This
legislation is a compendium of dozens of spending bills. We don’t know exactly
what is in it at this point because the details have not yet been made public.
But we do know that Reid has promised to try to ram such a bill through the
Senate, possibly before the congressional August recess. Senator Tom Coburn,
for whom the legislation has been named, has held up as many as 70 different
bills at various times. That is, he put a “hold” on them, preventing them from
passing by unanimous consent. Naming the bill after him is a joke, of course.
When it is officially introduced, it will have a nice-sounding name, probably
about saving women and children. One of those bills Coburn has blocked is
Barack Obama’s Global Poverty Act, which commits the U.S. to spending .7 percent of our
gross national product on foreign aid, at a cost over 13 years of $845 billion.
We do not know for sure that this bill is going to be included in the “Coburn
Omnibus.” Please immediately call your senators’ offices at 202-224-3121 and
voice objections to the “Coburn Omnibus” anyway. Our Congress is already
spending our country into bankruptcy. It has to stop. This is the time to draw
the line.
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, PLEASE LET SENATE MINORITY LEADER
MITCH MCCONNELL KNOW that you would like him to stand up against Harry Reid and
the “Coburn Omnibus.” Please send the enclosed postcards to McConnell,
Assistant Minority Leader Jon Kyl, and conference chair Lamar Alexander.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHILE HE WANTS TO STOP THE BILL NAMED
AFTER HIM, SENATOR Coburn voted for the $50 billion AIDS bill (S. 2731) on July
16. That was a big mistake. Coburn thought that he had improved the bill during
negotiations with Reid by diverting some of the money to treatment. Only 16 senators,
all conservative Republicans, voted against it. The 16 “nay” votes were cast by
Allard (R-CO), Barrasso (R-WY), Bunning (R-KY), Cornyn (R-TX), Craig (R-ID),
Crapo (R-ID), DeMint (R-SC), Ensign (R-NV), Graham (R-SC), Gregg (R-NH),
Hutchison (R-TX), Inhofe (R-OK), Kyl (R-AZ), Sessions (R-AL), Vitter (R-LA),
and Wicker (R-MS). Has it come down to the point where there are less than 20
conservatives in the U.S. Senate? That may be the case. The final Senate
version of the bill included the addition of water projects for Indian reservations. Prior to
this vote, the Congress had already spent $200 billion on HIV/AIDS without
finding a cure or a vaccine. This bill ballooned from $15 to $50 billion. Any
notion of this being a partisan matter was completely shattered by the Bush
Administration’s active lobbying for the bill. In this legislative showdown,
the Republican White House actively opposed the efforts of conservative
Republican senators such as Jim DeMint, David Vitter, Jeff Sessions and Jim
Bunning to reduce the size and scope of the legislation.
AMONG THOSE SPEAKING OUT
AGAINST THE OVERSPENDING IN THE BILL WAS SENATOR Bunning of Kentucky. He declared, “When so many
Americans are facing economics problems at home, I have a hard time needlessly
tripling the funding for this program.” Bunning also declared, “We need to
ensure that these funds reach the neediest countries and not those that can
afford their own space and nuclear programs, such as China
and Russia.
At a time when China
is tripling their defense budget and manipulating their currency, I have a hard
time sending billions of dollars over there…” Yet, an amendment to limit the
countries in which the AIDS money could be spent was defeated 70-24.
IN ADDITION TO SPENDING
$50 BILLION AT A TIME OF GROWING ECONOMIC DIFFICULTIES in the U.S., the bill lifts the ban on
entry into the U.S. of AIDS-infected aliens, who could end up adding to the
costs of the health care system. Indeed, the Congressional Budget Office
estimated that providing federal disability, health and nutrition benefits to
aliens with HIV/AIDS and their children could cost the government $83 million.
SENATOR DEMINT SAID, “PASSING $50 BILLION IN NEW SPENDING
AT A TIME WHEN OUR nation is deeply in debt is completely irresponsible...American
families are facing sky-high gas and food prices and have to sacrifice to make
ends meet, but Congress just keeps spending and passing the bill on to someone
else.” DeMint proposed an amendment to prohibit funds in the bill authorized
for the U.N.-affiliated Global Fund from going to organizations that perform
coercive abortions and sterilization in China and other countries. But 70
senators voted to kill the amendment.
MORE EVIDENCE OF COMMUNIST BACKING FOR BARACK OBAMA HAS
SURFACED. THE latest to emerge publicly in Obama’s camp is Joelle Fishman, the
chairman of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) Political Action Commission. In a
column titled, “Big political shifts are underway,” Fishman says that Obama
could lead “a landslide defeat of the Republican ultra-right” this November and
that he is “ready to listen” to the “left and progressive voters” backing him.
Meanwhile, admitted CPUSA member Alan Maki, writing on the official Barack
Obama website, in the “community blogs” section under an “Obama 08” banner, has
mentioned the the role of CPUSA member Frank Marshall Davis in mentoring Obama.
Davis, who died in 1987, was a Stalinist who stayed with the CPUSA when others
were abandoning it, and he refused, as late as 1956, to deny his membership in
the party. He was selected by Obama’s white grandfather to be the future
candidate’s role model and father-figure.
ANNOUNCING THE “FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS ROUNDTABLE FOR
CHANGE” ON THE OBAMA website, Maki, who is also a Democratic Party activist,
explained, “Reading Barack Obama’s book I learned about his mentor, Frank
Marshall Davis.” He went on, “Of course, as we all know, Frank Marshall Davis
was a Communist and he had a very good understanding of the underlying source
of problems which all too often goes unstated and unchallenged and remains
hidden because of the high fear-factor level in this country; I am referring to
capitalism—a thoroughly rotten system. Frank Marshall Davis also understood
through his thorough studies of the situation that socialism provided the only
workable alternative to capitalism.” Maki said that “...I thank Barack Obama
for bringing him to my attention… now I can say that Frank Marshall Davis is in
many ways my mentor, too.” Nevertheless, Maki wants it known far and wide that he
doesn’t support Obama and wouldn’t walk across the street to vote for him. He
thinks Obama and McCain are too close to Big Business.
THIS AIM REPORT EXPLORES THE EVIDENCE THAT OBAMA
ASSOCIATE BERNARDINE DOHRN was involved in a murder. The natural question is
why she was not prosecuted. Of course, she is married to the guy who could
provide the evidence against her! And Grathwohl’s testimony might be dismissed
as hearsay. Nevertheless, there is no statute of limitations on murder and
there is nothing preventing a grand jury from meeting at this late date and
considering the case. Please help us spread the word.
You can contact your senators by calling 202-224-3121 or through the Senate
website. As of this writing, the bill doesn’t yet have a number. But it can be
referred to as the Coburn Omnibus.
For
Accuracy in Media,
Editor
33 Comments | Post a Comment
If this “sponsorship” (how far until we reach semantic meltdown?), and the Reverend Wright exercising his first amendment rights, are all the anti-Obama crowd have to hang their hats on, they should look for a new angle.
Fred and dave should get together and share a latte.
B.H. Obama is an opportunistic ultra liberal snob. He has told us all what we can and can not say about him. Praise is accepted and criticism labels the speaker as racist.
The injustices of the last 50 years prove the strength of the anti-American forces to operate and commit crimes against all Americans and the millions who walk, crawl, swim and risk their lives to join us. The anti-Americans are funded and supported by powerful people who would kill the society that gave them their wealth and power.
They must be called to pay the price and not be allowed to subvert us.
Old Navy Vet-
thanks for the mindless ad hominem attack. I hope marching in lockstep with towering intellectuals like Rush Limbaugh is good exercise for you.
Better you should exercise your MIND.
Barack Hussein Obama’s connections with Marxis-Leninists (i.e., violent communists) and bigot-racists (e.g., Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan) must be exposed and denounced, for America’s fate is enormously important, not only to Americans, but to the entire world as well.
His connection to violent communists? Do tell! Details, please! Oh, you don’t? Didn’t think so.
His association with Wright is meaningless. His association with Farrakhan is nebulous.
Yes, America’s fate is important! For nearly 8 years it’s been in the hands of a cheerleader who blithely lies us into war, condones torture and wipes his arse with the 4th amendment to the Constitution. How about exposing and denouncing that?
Is the following totally inconsistent with terrorist activities?
Mightn’t terrorists assassinate Obama, then declare the US a racist nation, stirring up riots in the streets? It wouldn’t be the first time that some action set off riots in the streets, memorably, people in Watts burning down their houses to protest. (Conservatives have other things to do, but one can’t rule out the CIA.)
Sounds paranoid, I know. But had one predicted beforehand that the Weathermen (under whatever name) would do EXACTLY what they did, wouldn’t one have been considered paranoid? George Soros makes me paranoid just having all that money, a brilliant mind, and a distinct leftward tilt. He thinks he should pay more taxes. What’s stopping him? It ain’t me! (Nor the IRS.)
Personally, I think that those who don’t have a reasonable level of paranoia simply aren’t paying attention. Ever had a computer virus?
Washington DC isn’t playing by the rules and perhaps never has. (History is fascinating as it’s filled with stuff that sounds paranoid, but is business as usual in our nation’s capitol, among other places of leadership across the world.)
Of course, we might any of us be hit by lightning tomorrow, but really don’t expect to be. Daily worries along those lines would indeed be paranoid.
Oswald was right: “I’m just the patsy.”
Warren Beatty illustrated this concept to a tee in “The Parallex View.” Must viewing, along with “The Manchurian Candidate,” the superior original version.
Not betting on anything actually happening, but wouldn’t bet against it.
remember, just because you’re paranoid doesn’t eliminate the possibility that everyone is out to get you!
Does Soros make you more paranoid than Richard Scaife? Not me.
If you want to really enjoy The Manchurian Candidate, READ it. Richard Condon was brilliant, and virtually all of his novels involved the nexus of big business/government/mafia. He made it believable and somehow hilarious at the same time.
Uh, you forgot that the Obamas did not get their law degrees until the early 90s. So working in the same form at different times means exactly what?
Here’s what makes me paranoid: the collusion between politicians and certain businessmen looking for special favors that benefit them and cripple their competitors. That is not to say that all lobbyists are corrupt, just that the confluence of political and economic power is antithetical to individual rights, especially individual property rights.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121694153870182785.html?mod=todays_columnists
The more regulation of business and economic power the politicians arrogate to themselves, the greater the dangers of corruption and collusion. The worst of the dangers is the inept, bumbling, inefficient bureaucracies that are established by politicians to enforce their cynical power grabs. The unaccountable bureaucracies are out of control as evidenced by the apparent schizophrenia of the “Bush Administration,” the majority of which are hangovers from previous administrations.
Here’s another thing that’s got me scared: the current power grabbing into the financial industry by politicians.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121677050160675397.html
Be sure to click on the “Fannie Mayhem” link on that page to see other articles and examples of the corruption of so-called “government sponsored enterprise.”
Richard Scaife? Wow, somebody’s still into bitterness over Clinton’s impeachment. As they said at the time (before Soros “pwnd” them): “Censure and Move ON.”
You’re not paranoid, you’re just aware of the truth. Sometimes that’s scary. OK, a lot of times.
I have no bitterness. The impeachment of Clinton was a joke, but he brought it on himself. I’d call his inability to control his sexual urges a tragic flaw, but a tragic flaw befalls a hero, and he doesn’t deserve such designation.
Scaife is a much scarier guy than Soros, that’s my point. Right wing crazies are always scarier than left wing crazies. (the latter want to save the world “from itself”, the former want to own it all…)
If you’re not already familiar with his work, I can’t recommend Condon’s books enough.
”...Right wing crazies are always scarier than left wing crazies. (the latter want to save the world “from itself”, the former want to own it all…)...”
Hmm—I don’t think either is more scary—crazies of all stripes and colors are just plain scary.
I also think the left wing/right wing distinction is diversionary to the real issue which in my opinion is the struggle between collectivism and individualism which ultimately boils down to Communism versus Capitalism.
I’d like to see a Capitalist Party become a viable competitor with the Democrat and Republican party “fixed” system.
A Dave left a comment saying:
“His connection to violent communists? Do tell! Details, please! Oh, you don’t? Didn’t think so.
His association with Wright is meaningless. His association with Farrakhan is nebulous.
Yes, America’s fate is important! For nearly 8 years it’s been in the hands of a cheerleader who blithely lies us into war, condones torture and wipes his arse with the 4th amendment to the Constitution. How about exposing and denouncing that?”
Who, but only ignorami, doesn’t know that Leninists are inherently and inevitably violent communists? Who, but only deceivers, would deny it? BHO has been in association with Marxist-Leninists since his formative teenage years. Kincaid and others have amply documented it.
That his 20 long year association with a virulent America hater and racist bigot is meaningless is the most bizarre an assertion and the most brazen a denial that can be made.
Some people cannot but parrot the ruts that the Democrats and the rest of the left spread around like cud for their stooges, surrogates and proxies to robotically echo and re-regurgitate: “lied us into war”, when everyone knows that the “lie” came from “slam-dunk” faulty intelligence shared among all the significant Western powers; “torture”, the pubertal hazing by some idiotic guards at Abu Gharraib, or spilling water on the face of Islamofascist terrorists laying on their backs, the same type of mass-murdering Islamofascist terrorists that once, on 9/11, proved more than credibly that they are monstrous enough, to with all premeditation, intention and calculation, mass murder innocent, defenseless children, women and men for the mere “sin” of being Americans or happening to be on American soil; “4th Amendment violations”, listening to Islamofascists that want to mass murder us all, and done when made on calls originated abroad.
The Democrats and the rest of the Left, which for all practical purposes are one and the same, have entered, in effect, into a symbiotic alliance with Islamofascism to destroy the common enemy that they ardently abhor: America, the world’s utmost inextinguishable beacon of freedom, everlasting fountain of effective democracy, inexpugnable bastion of individual rights, and inexhaustible mother lode of free entrepreneurialism.
I, for decades, was deep in the Left as a “learned” (ideology and trickery) and hands-on (cunning) leftist activist; I do know the Left inside out, and do know how dupes are conditioned into parroting all sorts of sophistry and fallacies.
“Who, but only ignorami, doesn’t know that Leninists are inherently and inevitably violent communists?”
Hey, what century is this anyway? Besides, I’m pretty sure I asked for some evidence of his association with “Marxist/Leninists”. Yeah, I sure did. Did you give any? No, you sure didn’t.
We were lied into war, pure and simple. If you buy the “faulty intelligence” bullcrap, I have three words (and a preposition) for you: Office of Special Plans. QED
Yeah, those childish guards, hazing detainees to death on direct orders from up top. What cut-ups!
You can respond after Rush tells you what to say…
john galt-
a capitalist party? we don’t already have two of them?
Many try to paint the Dems as Commies (see the inane rantings of little Pancho above) but as far as I can see, the difference between Dems and Republicans is roughly the same as the difference between Coke and Pepsi.
Leftists get fussed-up so much when the evident broad overlapping between the Democrat Party of nowadays and the Left is exposed and pointed out, that they get seizures of hysteria. If they scratch so furiously it is only because it itches them equally furiously.
Only naives or deceivers would deny such overlapping, which almost engulfs the entire Democrat Party. It such a treasure to the Left that they try to hide it, to deny it so fervidly, so feverishly.
Again, dupes and deceivers, I was deep in the hard-core Left for decades and do know how it operates, and you shake and quiver when someone like me spills the beans. I was “taught” that one of the easiest ways of attempting (tired and usually unsuccessful) to rebut a well ratiocinated and veridical argument is by calling “inane”, “paranoid”, “childish”, and so on.
BHO is an enormous threat to America and to the rest of the world, and leftists will deny it swearing on their conscience, which is meaningless, for they got none.
By the way that Dave says that BHO’s association with Calypso Louis (aka Louis Farrakhan) is “nebulous”. Who wants even that type of nebulosity around the President of the United States of America?
As to evidencing BHO’s associations with Marxist-Leninist, again, Kincaid and many have more than eloquently DOCUMENTED it.
BHO and its retinue of campaigners and supporters must be exposed and denounced on every veracious and legitimate issue; the man is asking Americans to hire him as President of the United States of America.
It is incumbent upon employers to scrutinize any prospective employee applying for a job; leftist want us to crow BHO, when the man has possesses so many qualities that make him a great threat to America and the rest of the world. If it weren’t for it, none of the most prominent ones among visceral America-haters—such as Mahmoud Ahmedinajad, Fidel Castro, Daniel Ortega, Hamas, Hugo Chavez, et al of the same kind—would endorse him.
Want more cookie, little parrots?
Kincaid is a harlequin. Please show me his documentation.
You have not make any argument or point based on logic or fact, so to claim I’ve “rebutted” you gives you too much credit. There’s nothing to rebut.
You’ve given yourself away by admitting to a past as a member of “the left”. there is nobody on the planet more narrowminded than a former lefty who makes that sharp right turn!
“Kincaid is a harlequin.”
—-If you have any beef with Kincaid for spreading the truth, write him!
“Please show me his documentation.”
—-Do your research yourself; leftist are so used to be given everything for “free”!
You have not make any argument or point based on logic or fact, so to claim I’ve “rebutted” you gives you too much credit. There’s nothing to rebut.
—-Really? There is no blinder than him who doesn’t want to see; no deafer than the him who doesn’t want to hear.
“You’ve given yourself away by admitting to a past as a member of “the left”. there is nobody on the planet more narrowminded than a former lefty who makes that sharp right turn!”
—-If I may occasionally have hiccups of blindly-obedient dogmatism, they stem only from the infection therewith that the Left inflicted on me. I abandoned the monster for good, and am now free—elefteros! (ελεύθερος)—as Pericles would have shouted at full lungs.
—-No more cookie for leftist parrots and androids today; I am on my way to spend the weekend at Seascape, that plush resort on the beautiful coast of Northern Marxifornia (aka California). Maybe on Monday I’ll feel in the mood of continue feeding some cookie to annoying members of the Psittacidae.
There’s as much or more of this kind of stuff out there regarding Prescott Bush’s alleged and potentially seditious and treasonous behavior (between WWs I and II) acting as a direct business partner, financier, and armaments supplier to the original German architects of the Nazi political and military movement - - including the ‘Jewish solution’!
If these particular Bush allegations are true - - then, we’ve had the son and grandson of Prescott Bush - - who was allegedly an ‘enabler’ to those who created and carried out the Holocaust - - as sitting Presidents of the United States!
And this allegation, if true, would certainly be an indicator that G.H.W. and G.W. Bush had a much closer, much more direct relationship to an alleged ‘terrorist’ and the Nazi political and social movement than Obama is alleged to have to a couple of alleged Marxists or Leninists, wouldn’t it?
Personally, I didn’t know about this Prescott Bush stuff back in ‘01, but I still didn’t vote for George W. Bush for president - - mostly because I didn’t think an alcoholic should qualify to be president. But, that’s just me and my personal preferences. Anybody know if McCain or Obama is a big drinker???
Dave - -
I like your difference without much of a distinction - - Coke vs. Pepsi.
And, for my money, there are no more intellectually-dishonest people on the planet than the ideological extremists currently pushing the buttons in both the Coke and Pepsi political parties.
Unfortunately, our government has become “Government, Inc.” and the political parties have become “Democrats, Inc.” and “Republicans, Inc.” - - and all are operating as sister corporations under the auspices of “Wall Street Unlimited”.
You know, I heard that by the first year of his second term, old man Reagan (by age 73) had already forgotten the names of his kids! Have you heard that?
How old’s McBush, anyway? 78-80? Even older??? And, Geez, I think Obama’s ears are much too big for a guy who wants to be president, don’t you think?
lil pancho-
Kincaid is ‘spreading’something, but it sure isn’t truth! It’s more like that which gets spread on the fields by farmers…
tk-
yeah, the bush family ties to the enemy during World War II is important. the ties to Saudi Arabia are likewise important to bear in mind in order to get a real idea of why we’re in the mess we’re in…
What is amazing to me, is that the left has killed more than 10 times the people in this world than what the right has. Better read up on Soros life and what the left has done to this world. Better read up on world history and find out the root cause and then talk to me about facts. Are you a chicken #@%^ commie? Does the truth hurt all you blatant sore losers that you failed in your own life that you blame someone else. Are you that big of a failure and loser?
Dave, Could you remove Barack’s member from your mouth? It makes it difficult to hear you clearly. Thanks
Panchito42
Please come to americasrevival Discussion Board.
Sorry Dave. Still can’t understand you. Couldn’t you remove it just for a moment? Thanks.
Barack Obama is now being hounded by negative publicity left and right. Does it mean that the opposing candidate is afraid that he’ll win? Just asking. I am not a fan of any of them.
85Yota and whomever it may pertain to,
Any RATIONAL American—and even any rational being on Earth—should be seriously concerned at the ominous prospect of BHO becoming the next President of the United States of America. As a little token of what the next President will have to tackle, just see see some of the headlines coming from abroad:
Russia recognizes independence of Georgian regions
Russia says Georgian attack negated UN resolutions
Text of Medvedev’s Georgia announcement
Key events in Georgia crisis
Russia threatens military response to US missiles
Russian general criticizes US Black Sea presence
War shows that Putin is running things in Russia
North Korea suspends nuclear reactor disablement
Panch-
85Yota apparently has this site confused with one of the gay porn sites he has bookmarked. But if I may respond to you…
Your list is indeed ominous, but who do you think is capable of dealing with these isses? Take a look at McCain’s foreign policy advisors. It should make you VERY afraid.
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Both Obama and McCain are Communist supported by Foreign influences. Wither they be Cuba,China,Vietnam or AIPAC.