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It is not unusual for a politician to change his mind, even on critical national security matters. Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) essentially flip-flopped on the damage done by NSA defector Edward Snowden. He went from saying that Snowden may have violated the law to accusing the NSA defector of being an outright traitor. On Thursday night, while the media continue their preoccupation with style rather than substance, Republican presidential candidate Donald J. Trump will be watched closely to see whether he has learned anything about the aggressive intentions of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Trump’s position on Russia has been so weak, from a national security perspective, that Hillary Clinton has accused him of being soft on Putin. “He praises dictators like Vladimir Putin,” Clinton said of Trump. “He says he has foreign policy experience because he ran the Miss Universe pageant in Russia.” The criticism of Trump has caused a number of GOP foreign policy experts to say they cannot support the New York businessman for president.

Trump has praised Putin, and vice-versa. What’s more, one of his top advisers on national security matters, retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, the former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), has been embarrassed by revelations that he went to Moscow to celebrate the 10th anniversary of Russian propaganda channel Russia Today (RT) and sat next to Putin at a gala dinner. Flynn was being considered as Trump’s vice-presidential nominee.

At the GOP convention, Flynn was caught off-guard during an interview when Michael Isikoff of Yahoo! News questioned him about the financing of the trip to Moscow. Flynn insisted that his speakers’ bureau paid for the trip. “Ask them. I was given an opportunity and I took it,” he said. Of course, even if there was a speakers’ bureau involved, the money came from Moscow, and most of it went to Flynn.

At the time, we called it “Moscow’s Five-Star Treatment of a Three-Star Army General.” We broke the story of Flynn flying to Moscow.

On the defensive, Flynn said, “I have no problems calling out Russia.” He is the author of the new book, The Field of Fight: How We Can Win the Global War Against Radical Islam and Its Allies.

But Flynn is known for advocating cooperation with Moscow in the Middle East, despite evidence that Moscow is using the refugee crisis as a weapon of war against the West.

Of course, as Flynn is quick to point out, Mrs. Clinton’s “experience” has been a disaster for the nation, as her “Russian “reset” paved the way for the Russian invasion of Ukraine and Russian military intervention in Syria.

But what will Trump do to counter the Russians in Europe and the Middle East?

The criticism of Trump’s soft position on Russia has been a sore point with many on the conservative side. It doesn’t appear that Trump understands Putin’s geo-political game plan on the world stage.

This is one reason that GOP 2012 presidential candidate Mitt Romney had denounced Trump.  “Trump says he admires Vladimir Putin, while he has called George W. Bush a liar. That is a twisted example of evil trumping good,” said Romney.

By contrast, Mike Pence, the Indiana governor and former member of Congress picked as Trump’s running mate, has had a more realistic view of Putin. At the Conservative Political Action Conference in 2015, he said that “A new Iron Curtain is descending down the spine of Europe as modern Russia seeks to redraw the map of Europe by force.” He added, “Putin’s Russia ignores talk of sanctions, claims land and supports rebels in Ukraine with impunity.”

Has Trump changed his position on Russia? There’s no evidence that he has done so.

Josh Rogin of The Washington Post noted that Trump’s people watered down a provision of the 2016 GOP platform calling for a tough response to Russian aggression. “The Trump campaign worked behind the scenes last week to make sure the new Republican platform won’t call for giving weapons to Ukraine to fight Russian and rebel forces, contradicting the view of almost all Republican foreign policy leaders in Washington,” he reported.

Rogin added that “Republican delegates at last week’s national security committee platform meeting in Cleveland were surprised when the Trump campaign orchestrated a set of events to make sure that the GOP would not pledge to give Ukraine the weapons it has been asking for from the United States.” He noted that Diana Denman, a platform committee member from Texas who was a Cruz supporter, proposed a platform amendment calling for “providing lethal defensive weapons” to the Ukrainian military. Trump’s people vetoed that, and put in the phrase “appropriate assistance.” That means that Trump would continue the Obama policy of failing to give Ukraine the weapons they need to defend their nation and turn back the Russian invasion.

Meanwhile, Senator Cruz has become a more realistic thinker about Russia, and has admittedly changed his position on the damage done by former NSA and CIA employee Edward Snowden, who is now living in Moscow. “If Mr. Snowden has violated the laws of this country, there are consequences to violating laws and that is something he has publicly stated he understands and I think the law needs to be enforced,” Cruz said in early 2013.

Later, however, Cruz said, “Today we know that Snowden violated federal law, that his actions materially aided terrorists and enemies of the United States, and that he subsequently fled to China and Russia. Under the Constitution, giving aid to our enemies is treason. By disclosing secret intelligence information to our enemies—helping terrorists evade our surveillance overseas—Snowden made it more likely that Americans will be killed. It is now clear that Snowden is a traitor, and he should be tried for treason.”

To his credit, Trump recognizes Snowden’s treason. “I think Snowden is a terrible threat, I think he’s a terrible traitor, and you know what we used to do in the good old days when we were a strong country—you know what we used to do to traitors, right?” Trump said on Fox News.  The implication was that Snowden should be executed. “This guy is really doing damage to this country, and he’s also making us look like dopes,” Trump said.

What Trump doesn’t talk about is the fact that Snowden’s sponsor and patron is Putin’s Russia, and that Snowden has facilitated the activities of the Islamic State targeting citizens in the West, including the United States.

At the GOP convention on Tuesday night, Donald Trump, Jr. said, “If Hillary Clinton is elected, she would be the first president who couldn’t pass a basic background check.”

But could his father pass a background check? That’s the question that will be on many minds when the Republican candidate accepts the nomination and outlines his vision for the Free World.

Whatever he says, doubts will still surround some of his top advisers, including Paul Manafort, a “fixer” with Russian connections.




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  • Mitchell Hedges

    1.) In the hours following 9/11, Vladimir Putin was the first world leader to comfort Bush, with the assurance that Russia had been through this same experience with Islamic terrorists from Chechnya. (Read as 1999 Russian apartment building bombings were pretext for US-Russian solidarity in wake of 9/11.)
    2.) In 2006, Alexander Litvinenko was killed. Litvinenko was primarily responsible for popularizing the theory that the FSB had blown up apartment buildings in Russia in order to consolidate authoritarian power under Putin. (Read as: Apartment bombings were orchestrated by Putin’s FSB as a context to solidify power. Further evidence is that the Chechen separatist leader (Aslan) fighting Russia was a former KGB operative described as “more communist than Islamist”.)
    3.) Before he died, also in 2006, Litvinenko also claimed Ayman Al-Zawahiri (then Al-Qaeda #2, now #1) had been trained by the FSB for a period of 6 months in Chechnya before being embedded in Al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda only started attacking western targets (Kenya embassy) in the months following Zawahiri’s embedding. (Read: The head operational planner of Al Qaeda is/was an alleged FSB agent).

    This is only a small subset of relatively uncontested information. It seems to lead to an inescapable conclusion.
    When it is compounded with the work of Ion Pacepa and other Soviet defectors (highlighting Andropov’s strategy to use Islamic terrorists and jet liners specifically to attack the west, as well as classic disinformation “patterns” used by the Soviets), the argument only gets stronger. http://www.rferl.org/content/soviet-islamist-terrorism-israel-america-disinformation-pacepa/25034290.html

    Why does every conspiracy about 9/11 blame Mossad and CIA for the event? Why does it blame the Saudis? “Who benefits” as they say? The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq cost the USA deeply in blood and treasure and corrupted our reputation abroad. Looking back, there is a clear pattern which benefits the Russian-Iranian axis and damages the US-Saudi-NATO axis.

    When considering this past against the current ISIS threat and Russian actions to bolster that organization ostensibly (in conflict with their official mission of fighting ISIS) in order to achieve political goals, the model only gets clearer and the argument gets stronger yet still.

    One Donald Trump, with connections to numerous Russian oligarchs, having met with Putin’s chief surrogate on the record at Miss Universe… employing no less than three oddly Russian-conflicted advisers: Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, and Carter Page… and not only that, running against NATO, running on anti-immigrant (eg “criminal rapist”), and anti-Islamic, and pro white sentiments just like proven pro Kremlin puppets like Marine Le Pen… With the full weight of the daylight propaganda apparatus (RT and Sputnik) and shadow propaganda apparatus (eg Online Trolls and “The Agency”) behind him… You would have to be stupid at this point to think it is a coincidence.

    All people like Trump and Le Pen are doing are weakening the cohesion of NATO and the western alliance so as to provide a platform for a new multi-polar world with one pole headed by Russia.

    Make America Great Again Indeed. #NeverForget

  • Mitchell Hedges

    See any family resemblance (especially when R-R or L-L are compared)? I find the improbable ascendance and suspect biography of Putin to be suspicious. Beria and Putin – like two peas in a pod. Before he was “killed” by his friends in the Politiburo, Beria had been constructing vast nuclear powered bunkers using slave labor (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/11/18/world/the-hidden-city-a-special-report-hard-times-for-russia-s-nuclear-centers.html?pagewanted=all — fortresses like Yamantau still exist today… what do you suppose is there?).

    The man who built (stole) the bomb for Russia, the man who ran the Gulag, the man who ran the secret police started this mysterious legacy. The man who potentially killed Stalin.

    Beria — the man who disappeared without a trace and with no consistent story.

    Hard for me to believe he didn’t retreat to his bunker somewhere in a classic Byzantine deception. Everything you read about Beria states clearly he is dead. It is reinforced in both Western and Russian sources. However the only fact is there is/was no body, and no consistent story ever emerged. Given his position and the strategic direction of the Russians emerging still today, maybe just maybe… is Putin actually Lavrentiy Beria Junior? https://i.imgur.com/SczzmvS.png

    At the least, it is a fair enough question to ask or conspiracy angle to promulgate in propaganda given the equivalent suggestions about the motives of our political leaders (except Trump of course) by the Russians.

  • RMThoughts

    The end of the Second World War led to an American presence in Western Europe. The Cold War and especially the crimes of the Nazis finally gave the United States the excuse to deeply penetrate and transform European culture. Today this transformation has reached such a level, that the cultural foundation and cultural consciousness of Europe is in grave danger and very near its final dissolution. Only a meaningful decrease of American influence in the foreseeable future could turn the tide.

    Russia, as the only meaningful European country outside NATO, has until now withstood cultural penetration by the United States. Only time will tell, if Russia can distance itself from the cultural destiny of the rest of Europe. If so, it will then, in fact, become a kind of Noah’s Ark in reference to European culture as such.

  • John Cunningham

    Give it a couple months and, Donald Trump will see the tyrant he is facing. Putin would love to run Russia like Stalin did but, the World would rise up.

  • RMThoughts

    That is brilliant. Why didn’t we realize before now that Putin is actually Beria Junior? Your evidence is overwhelming.

  • Ted

    There are two countries in the world that could obliterate the U.S. if they chose to do so. It’s stupid not to cozy up to one of them and, obviously, it should be the one that’s the culturally-closest to the European heritage that exists in this country.

    The FASTER that Trump develops a working relationship with Putin … THE BETTER! A friendly Russia can provide us with a whole host of natural resources that we need.

    It’s only the moronic Republican paranoia about ‘comunism’ that has prevented a closer relationship since the fall of the U.S.S.R. in December, 1991. Time for Trump to get it done!

  • Steven Barrett

    I simply cannot believe Trump and his senior staffers are buying into the notion of gauging how we’ll handle the defense of a smaller nation facing direct threat of invasion by Russia or China … based on a “what have you done for us lately”. Foreign policy isn’t some kind of fictional board or computer game based on Mario Puzo’s Godfather trilogy. If that’s the case, why should anybody be surprised with his calls to bring back waterboarding and other means of torture to “get results.” Hillary Clinton’s commercial about Trump getting his foreign policy info from the the idiot box shouldn’t be at all that surprising.
    Besides, don’t conservatives believe in the concept of honoring contract law any more. Or is everything up for grabs as this newer, leaner, meaner style of contemporary “conservatism” all part of what he calls the “art of the deal”?

  • Steven Barrett

    Good point John. But you’ve gotta be a real serious optimist to even believe Trump knows who Stalin was and what he was all about. Not even Vladimir Putin’s come close to Stalin and that takes some doing.

  • worried for future

    Kincaid obviously doesn’t like Trump so you can always predict what he’ll write. What’s interesting is he believes Trump’s father should have an impact on Trump passing a background check. But notice that he doesn’t bring up any mention of Hillary’s honesty to Trump’s. However what any of this has to do with Putin is a questionable.

  • John Cunningham

    Very true. I am not a Donald Trump supporter but he is a lot closer to one than Hillary by far. I believe if elected he will really try to do a good job. If he tries to become a tyrant, he will be run out of DC in a New York minute. He is white and claims to be a Republican. White Conservatives are an endangered species.

  • mioahu

    First of all, they couldn’t obliterate the USA even in their dreams. Second , i am not sure how old you are, cause it seems you don’t remember the cold war,and the history leading to it, the millions of people killed by the communists in Russia, Cambodia, Vietnam, Cambodia, China, Korea, Cuba,Nicaragua, Venezuela,Poland, Romania to name a few, and the miserable lives they had and some still do.
    Communism is evil, and the world was close to succumb to this evil if not for the actions of the USA, which fought them on every front. So if there is anybody who is moronic, it’s the democrats for having a communist like Bernie getting a significant number of votes, for having a communist left wing community organizer like Obama be the president, and infusing this great country with their communist leftist ideas.Their only goal is to destroy the USA, they hate capitalism, and would like to have a big mother Russia take over the world. You are a moral idiot.

  • mioahu

    Western Europe is far gone to the left, socialist, atheistic and PC. It is true that Russia is different, and so are most of the East European countries that were behind the iron curtain, but they are by no means better, they are far worst, with rampant corruption, no democracy, no rights. And that’s because they are different than the US, not similar. It is not US influence that is killing western Europe, it is their association with leftist ideas. Political Correctness and lack of religion and of values makes them weak, Russia appears strong because they have religion and they don’t give acrap about PC, but they are not a model for the world , the USA is (if it stops from moving lefty)

  • Steven Barrett

    John, if they don’t run him out of town, they’ll drive him nuts, just plain nuts by slowing down the pace of government to a pace that’d make the speed of the Reid/McConnell years in the Senate resemble that of race cars, and I mean the F1 and NASCAR varieties. A little while ago I heard Sen. Jeff Sessions going on about the need for other nations to pick up their share of the burden. That might be fine fodder for position papers. The old “let’s make everybody accountable” stuff . . . on the other hand, it’s cruelly insensitive to the day to day realities of the people who live in those NATO nations, some of which do not have nearly the same amount of avenues for changing their government’s policies as we enjoy. It’s easy to say “pay up or else,” but that “or else” can be a very real and tangible loss of personal security, liberties, property and health of their loved ones.
    Ironically enough, in this instance, Trump is taking his talking points and advice from a senator representing a quarter of the nation that’s never felt the slightest shred of guilt, shame or remorse for all the inordinate amount of tax dollars it receives in highway spending, yet every damn time it’s told to get in line with the rest of the nation, it throws up the Tenth Amendment, “states’ rights” bullcrap and whatever other stalling tactics they can pull to keep getting their way.
    And now he proposes to put on his green shaded accountant’s visor to help the next president wannabe in foreign policy matters and proposes to do so from a “pay it up or lose it” proposition? Hell, when it comes to money, esp. if it comes to having to wonder where one little penny of their “hard earned tax dollars” are going, some guys are never able to see where if their ideas are taken to their most illogical extent, it could even lead to the major loss of lives, nations that used to rely on us and eventually, I hope to God not, that day when we have far fewer friends than we have now. And why? Cheapening the once stalwart symbol of what makes our nation so exceptional: Our generous spirit. That’s priceless.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Foreign policy is so divorced from the public trust that it is literally a trap to ask a candidate who is not an insider about how they would handle it. It’s akin to a monopoly business asking how an outsider would apply their business strategy. Since WWII our foreign policy has been centered on convergence and world government. Naivete matters little when the whole mess has been subverted.

  • John Cunningham

    All true but, America can not sacrifice their young men and women for Countries that do not respect or care about us. They have become complaisant knowing America has their back. They must strengthen NATO and each Country needs an Army. Now their en lies the problem. The People in Europe would become apoplectic thinking they would have to serve in the military.

    Europeans have become fat and lazy on our dime plus blood sweat and tears. I also believe our young People should serve in some capacity when they get out of high school. They could chose their desired position and tests could determine their best placement. It would give our Children a chance to learn about their Country. Plus prepare them for College or any trade they may go after.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    This is a mute point. The US and Russia have been working on convergence for decades. They are building a communist world government right in front of everybody’s eyes.

  • Steven Barrett

    Valid points. But I can’t help chuckling a bit when I recall one of Maggie Thatcher’s last warnings and apprehensions over German military reunifications, “Ohhh, what could possibly go wrong!” And while reading through your other reply about naivite, monopoly, the it immediately dawned on me you might want (LOL) to pick another game to use for an example when the subject is the Midtown Mogul of Manhattan. What really has me worried is his tendency to rely too much on family members. Can you just imagine one of The Donalds kids representing us at the Court of St. James, Moscow or Berlin? Stay tuned. Big show coming up at any moment!
    Hope Team Trump invested in a new Plagiarism Spycraft Bullshit Detector 10.9 software protection package between tonight’s speech and that of Mrs. Trumps, or was it Mrs. Obama’s..

  • jitterith

    More like a moronic idiot Since when is Smart decision making a weakness In any armed confrontation? The West is considered weak for trying to avoid a confrontation where Russia will wind up killing more of their own Conscripts with their carpet bombing style of fighting while the west tries to minimize civilian casualties

  • Erudite Mavin

    I can list dozens of books and links to at least 100+ articles documenting who and what Putin is.

    Also Trump and his close circle of Manafort, Page, Flynn and more and their background with Putin and Russia.
    ______________________
    Just a small clue about this KGB trained Putin in his words. :

    Russia’s Putin: I’ve Always Liked Communist and
    Socialist ‘Ideas’

    By Damien Sharkov On 1/25/16

    Russian President Vladimir Putin delivers a speech at a meeting with members of the All-Russia People’s Front in Stavropol, Russia, January 25. Putin has said he is and has always been fond of Communist “ideas”.

    You know that I, like millions of Soviet citizens, over 20 million, was a member of the Communist Party of the USSR and not only was I a member of the party but I worked for almost 20 years for an organization called the Committee for State Security,” Putin said, referring to the KGB.
    “I was not, as you know, a party member by necessity,” he said. “I liked Communist and socialist ideas very much and I like them still

    http://www.newsweek.com/russias-putin-says-he-always-liked-communist-socialist-ideas-419289
    This is who Trump and his circle support

    .

  • terry1956

    I pretty much agree with you except Russia stands a good chance of the ability to obliterate the US starting with their ICBMs which Obama and my two RINO Senators( plus enough other traitor US Senators mostly dems but some GOP) from TN. has made us weaker against through deals with Russia.
    Like Romney said back in 2012 Russia is the US largest enemy and I will add Red China is the second largest and we should put some distance between us and the two.

  • terry1956

    Putin has not been as bad as Stalin because he has not had the ability to go that far, if he had it he would be just as bad but so would Hillary and I suspect Trump would be more like a tyrannical Musseolini fascist or at least no better than Franco but still cave in to the globalist.
    Stiner would be more like POL POT, Johnson and his VP are for International Business Roundtable Rule .
    Darrel Castle is the only honest USA first Constitutionalist/Federalist running for president.

  • terry1956

    I suspect given a chance Trump would be the Strong man tyrant that FA Hayek warned us about in chapter 10 ( Why the Worse Gets on Top) in his book The Road To Serfdom but of course given the chance Hillary would be far worse.

  • terry1956

    We should just get out of NATO and if western and non Russian controlled eastern Europe is not willing to pay for a federated defense that is their problem.
    Even without the UK and Ireland the EU has more people and a higher GDP than the US.
    It would be better for them to junk the EU and just have a federation for defense.
    It would be better if the UK,Ireland,Canada,Austrilia and New Zealand did the same.
    Japan, South Korea and Tawain might be another.

  • terry1956

    Well a draft clearly violates the 13th amendment but we do need to build up our state miltias big time.
    If just 30% of the adults volunteered and serve that would be over 60 million or over 20 times more than the US full time military, reserves and national guard combined, just 10% would be 10 times larger than the full time US miltary
    Now giving a big state and county tax cut to those who serve or have served might be a good idea.

  • Jerry Howe

    Someone needs to get the Russian connection with Donald Trump information to Bill Maher and Michael Moore, – and FAST !!!

  • pol61
  • Erudite Mavin

    Putin is typical Soviet disinformation.
    He spins so the ignorant and wishful thinkers in the west
    follow along like sheep.
    If you don’t understand the Soviet mindset, which I have seen first hand, you will continue to be made a fool of.
    Read just a couple of books .

    “Winter Is Coming”: Why Vladimir Putin and the Enemies of the Free World Must Be Stopped by G. Kasparov.
    “The New Cold War” Putin’s Russia and the Threat to the West by Edward Lucas.

  • votedemout

    It’s called getting your attention…..

  • Steven Barrett

    It gets Putin’s attention more as to which nation he can maneuver his forces to play the old Kremlin game of circling the tanks outside its border till it’s ready to spring the attack when Moscow decides the victim is ripe. All Putin needs to know is with Trump calling the shots with his “let ’em hang out to dry” way of handling things is when his forces are ready to go and he gives the order and the most innocent victims, the citizens of the nation Putin wants to forcibly reincorporate into a new Russian Empire will be the ones who really pay the bill Trump wants paid in advance.
    True, the United States and American soldiers should never be dispatched willy nilly all over the world. However, when we decided to create an all for one and one for all treaty organization, as we did with NATO following WWII and in the face of Stalin’s designs to move his troops westward, mistakenly thinking the West would not respond with Honor as well as with troops, ships and planes, it would be a colossal infamy if we welshed on our word. Who would come to our aid if it turned out that we left the rest of the world at Moscow’s mercies and we found ourselves surrounded and ripe for invasion?
    It’s easy to pout, throw out tweets with simplistic “solutions” based on what some simpleton fool for an advisor, (usually Trump himself as his own foreign policy “expert” from watching this or that show on history of warfare and diplomacy. But that’s not how the real world exists. I’m not a former State employee, but it doesn’t take one to figure out what I explained above. It’s just both common sense and good sound moral foreign policy based on a much higher value system than mere dollars and cents. It’s based on how truly we value what we say about freedom versus tyranny and the necessity to stand up against bullies abroad when necessary.

  • Steven Barrett

    At what price? Do we give over to the Kremlin what so many of our veterans paid for in blood, limbs and lives during the Cold War to keep from falling under Russian domination? Don’t think for a moment that because Russia has “embraced capitalism” that she would be less inclined to risk everything (much like the Communists) to get at the Americans, Europeans, China and Japan.
    Russia’s oligarchic system is run by and for a small elite that make our “one percenter” crowd look Jeffersonian. Like their president, a former Lt. Col. in the old KGB, these oligarchs were guys “in the know” who placed themselves and their loyal minions who wanted a promised cut in on the loot their bosses would grab as the old order crumbled … but not too quickly and not too impoverished for them to miss out on pocketing millions they deemed necessary to build capitalist empires to replace their old Soviet gov’t empires. If they’re willing to commit gangster-like hits on their rivals just for a larger cut in their “speciality” areas, what do you think a whole politburo sized gathering of these buccaneers would think about pulling on the West, esp. if they thought they had a willing partner in DC who was willing to play his fake role as our “rebuilder of greatness”?

  • Steven Barrett

    LOL, I can’t wait to see a Trump version of Putin’s favorite “Bible” for Soviet era bureaucrats. The only real lure in Russia for Trump must be the enormity of room for him to build gadzillions of golf-courses for oligarchs and all the splendor of those old Romanov era palaces in and around St. Petersburg. The dazzle of the deal. Putin gets to him every time.

  • votedemout

    What a giant waste of words to pontificate a bunch of nonsense. Trump’s point and a very good one, is that if we are expected to keep our word then others too must keep their word. For years we have been played the fool by European countries who expect us to pay not only our share of the bill, but the share of those who freeload on our stupidity. You spew the epitome of liberal thinking with your dissertation, and very clearly make the point as to why we need a businessman to bring some semblance of intelligence back to our completely disjointed political leadership. If I were a betting man I would give big odds that you actually are a State employee.

  • Steven Barrett

    Thanks for the backhanded compliment on being a State employee. BTW, why would you trust a businessman who’s primary loyalty is to himself and his bottom line more so than his nation’s overall welfare and security … over that of a patriotic and longtime selfless public servant working for State? Here’s another BTW, how would you like to get a knock on the door at night by a man in your child’s or spouse’s branch of service accompanied by a cleric telling you that your loved one died in combat while providing dangerous escort for Mr. or Ms. Bigshot who just happened to be in a tight spot where a revolution broke out and the lives of the bigshots and their tax sheltered funds were in danger of being held by the new government which for one reason or another, had some very legitimate beefs with the businessman-president’s policies towards that nation which might’ve caused considerable impoverishment and exploitation of the people living there trying to eek out an existence? Do you want your loved ones dying to make the world safe for oligarchy and international financiers who couldn’t give two rips about their fellow Americans save for the blood that might be shed by our brave men and women sent in harm’s way to save their sorry asses.
    I guess you prefer this to the calmer and safer practices of sound diplomacy. If that’s the case, maybe you’re the one who should think a lot deeper than you have and maybe you’ll realize that Mr. Trump, for all his bombast is the very last man you want calling the shots.
    The Republicans got suckered into nominating the man who might well be laughed at as Moscow’s errand boy for oligarchy.

  • votedemout

    You could not be more off base. I have fought and bled for this country and completely understand the horror and grief of losing brothers where some other brothers were going to have to make that horrible trip to the family. It is completely obvious that your gene pool came to this country far after the heavy lifting was complete, You have no concept of what it is to be an American. You have listened to the liberals who have taken over many institutions of learning, corrupted our history, and indoctrinated our young people, probably you included.

    As a business owner I had the opportunity to interview several federal workers who had fairly significant jobs in their resume. I was astounded that those people had been paid about twice the going rate for similar private sector occupations and yet possessed only half the skill set.

    The reason we need a business man to run the country is that no career politician will ever be able to understand the necessary decisions to take a chain saw to the bloated bureaucracy and put our country back on the road of financial stability. Most politicians are attorneys and have never run anything except a political campaign. They are self centered and the majority of their effort is to either find ways to line their pockets or assure themselves of re-election.

    As to your belief that Mr. Trump would be the one to tend to the needs of the, “oligarchy and international financiers who couldn’t give two rips about
    their fellow Americans save for the blood that might be shed by our
    brave men and women sent in harm’s way to save their sorry asses.” you should spend a little time studying the Clinton Family Foundation. Never in modern history has an entity so thoroughly compromised our national security for personal gain. That said I would expect no less from a narrowly educated liberal such as you…..Semper Fi

  • David Stanley

    Russia is the quintessential American ally
    IT defended America when the British threatened America during the American revolution 1776
    IT was our ally during word war 1 and world war 2
    Russia is no longer the USSR
    Previous administrations have alienated Russia ,demonized the Russian people. But Trump still correctly sees the quintessential ally.
    I share Trump’s vision, Russia and America have always been allies
    Today it defends America against a non democratic DNC who is trying to push an illegitimate Candidate into the Presidency

  • ericsiverson

    Why don’t you clarify your statement and name all the countries that you can prove Putin sent his tanks into ? Please just name one country than

  • Steven Barrett

    Eric, it looks like your reply was cut off where you (I presume) meant to say “Ukraine.” He’s invaded Georgia during the Beijing Olympics,
    Neville Chamberlain infamously remarked about the ugly reality of having to possibly go to war for Czechoslovakia, saying it was too far away and unable to rescue. Tactically and strategically speaking, he was correct. Diplomatically, his sentiments brought disaster upon the Czechs and when he saw what the Nazis were really all about, he did an about-face and was willing to commit Britain and France to Poland’s assistance if Hitler invaded the Poles, which he did. Though he warned the Germans what would happen if they invaded Poland and it didn’t stop Hitler, Chamberlain nevertheless did not abandon Poland because of some pound n’ pence imperial book keeping policies that were tipped off to the Nazis well in advance because of any elections or even new Nazi Party Day decrees rammed through on the spot.
    I’m surprised Pence hasn’t pulled or been able to try and pull Trump back from this foolish weakening of NATO.

  • ericsiverson

    No steven I side with Russia .Medvedev did not invade Georgia Russia repelled Georgia’s invasion of South Ossetia . And even in Ukraine I again side with Russia . I don’t side with the coup which I think was backed by the United States . I think Russia has acted most honorably . We should be friends with Russia not enemies .

  • ericsiverson

    China might not let one of their provinces unit with Japan . although it would be OK with me .

  • Steven Barrett

    Well, if Medvedev (a reincarnated Nicholas II sans beard!) gave the okay to roll the tanks into So. Ossetia, he didn’t do it without checking in with the nation’s real boss, Putin. As for Ukraine, I take it you’d prefer Putin to have gobbled it up for Mother Russia all over again, no thanks in part to some help from Mr. Paul Manafort, who ironies of all ironies, happens to be the GOP’s new party boss, Donald Trump.
    We don’t have to be enemies, but it helps to read from the same history books.

  • donhank

    Are you trying to say that ISIS is more of an enemy than Russia? Seriously? Look what those commies have done in Syria: protected the Christians from extermination, that’s what. How could any American be for that? (I am trying hard to sound like Cliffy. How am I doing?)

  • donhank

    Hello Cliffy, First of all, thanks for all the free publicity here of late. Now as for this commie Putin and his commie friend Trump and all the millions of US commies who support him, I want to congratulate you for your support for the Hillary campaign. With your help, she is sure to win in November. She has already said she wants a no-fly zone in Syria. Considering that Putin has planted S-400s and S-500s all over Syria, that would mean lots of US pilots getting shot down, thanks to your candidate. That is of course bad, but at least it will bring about that WW III that you are pushing for. Once that is out of the way, we can all start over. Civilization that is.

  • donhank

    Keep campaigning for Hillary. I am certain you will get what you asked for.

  • donhank

    The trouble is, Russia has at least one nuke delivery vehicle that travels at 7000 mph, faster than any known missile can intercept. We can build 100 times as many nukes as Russia has but they still can wipe out Washington from the West coast in one-half hour. We are in a different era now and it behooves us to keep updated and prepare accordingly. Here’s an idea: since we can’t defeat Russia, how about we join forces with her and defeat ISIS before it makes good on its promise to destroy civilization? BTW, since the fall of the Soviet Union, Russia has never shown an interest in taking over new territory or attacking without being attacked first. Ukraine was a US-led job. Soros admitted on national TV that his foundations played a role in the Maidan coup. Victoria Nuland bragged that she spent $5 billion of your money bringing chaos to Ukraine — which now has an economy that compares with Haiti. As for Syria, if it had not been for the US and Europe supporting the Arab Spring, the foreign invasion by US-sponsored fighters (who have recently beheaded a boy) would have been put down in a matter of months. It didn’t have to be this way.

  • donhank

    That is partly true. The US is building a commie government and is putting the finishing touches on it. Russia is opposing this because they have been there done that and it doesn’t work. We’re about to find out that they already know.

  • donhank

    don’t be so hard on Mitchell, RM. Remember: He reads AIM Neocon propaganda.

  • donhank

    So Hillary is the answer then, eh?

  • donhank

    Well, aren’t you glad the West has one outstanding site for intellectuals like you who can clearly see the commies. AIM. I hope the Hillary campaign is paying you and Cliffy well.

  • donhank

    You mean the same NATO that killed Ghadaffi and turned Libya into a hell hole? Do you mean the same NATO that carved a Muslim state (Kosovo) out of a Christian country (Serbia)? Yes, NATO did Bill Clinton’s bidding and now there is hardly a Christian church left standing in Kosovo. THAT NATO, right?

  • donhank

    Do you think Dr. Stephen Cohen is ignorant?

  • donhank

    Oh, but if we can just nuke Russia, all of this world government stuff will vanish. Just as Cliffy.

  • donhank

    But Neville Chamberlain was dealing with Hitler. Did you know that the Russians really HATE fascism? That is why the US-backed Maidan coup was such an affront to them. The Pravy Sektor, which persecutes Russians in E Ukraine, once fought on the side of Hitler. The Russians lost about 4 times as many people to Hitler as any other country. Do you think maybe we should try to convince them that fascists are nice folks?

  • Erudite Mavin

    As a Life long Republican, I don’t vote for Democrats and that includes Trump.

    “In many cases, I probably identify more as a Democrat,” Donald Trump told CNN in 2004

    in 2007 Donald Trump said, “Hillary’s always surrounded herself with very good people. I think Hillary would do a good job,” as he praised
    her ability to negotiate and ultimately handle a deal with Iran.

  • donhank

    But do you think Neoconservatves are conservative?

  • Erudite Mavin

    Neoconservatives are the Conservatives.
    Paleocons , tea people, libertarians, and the rest of the weak on National Security crowd, hate the people who were the major supporters of Reagan and that would be the Neoconservatives.
    You don’t care for any one who is strong on National Security,
    Understands that Putin and his ally the head of the snake of Radical Islam, Iran are an existential threat to the U.S. and around the world.

  • Erudite Mavin

    Ignorant to say the least.
    You obviously think you know Russia and Putin from Stephen’s propaganda and others like him.
    I was in East Germany in the early 1980s with a special visa when it was controlled by the Soviet Union and saw huge number of Soviet soldiers with their hammer & sickle in several cities.
    The oppression the people lived under there is something you would not understand.

  • donhank

    This is where Neocons are wrong. Irving Kristol, the father of the Neoconservative movement, and his predecessor, Leo Strauss devised this movement as a way of getting conservatives and Christians on board with the diabolical plan to rid the world of Christian traditions (http://laiglesforum.com/our-father-commands-be-wise/3377.htm). Every war outside the Americas since the early 70s has ended up setting the stage for radical Islamists to banish and kill Christians. Look at Iraq. It seemed like a great idea but in the end, the Assyrian Christians were forced out of their homeland. The Kosovo war led to the banishment of almost all the Serbian Orthodox. The hate-Russia movement is aimed at getting Russia out of Syria, where they are in fact the only force that sincerely fights ISIS. You can never defeat radical Islam if you are simultaneously fighting their most formidable opponent. You need to see ISIS for what it is and stop pretending that Russia is the enemy. Strong national security requires a sensible alliance with Russia. People who hate Russia might as well admit that they also hate Christianity and civilization itself because Russia is the last stronghold of both. Jesus said:be gentle as doves and wise as serpents. Are you obeying this command?

  • donhank

    Would not understand? My dear Marvin, my undergraduate degree is in German. I spent my junior year in country and we visited E Berlin. I also saw what you saw but did not turn a blind eye to the oppression of the Nazis, who went on to build the EU dictatorship (if you care to know more about this, kindly view this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV-6pHdUpfk). I then turned my attention to Russia and eventually took a Masters in Russian language and literature. I spent a summer in Leningrad and was appalled at communism. But do you know why? Because I saw a lot of very sad people and spoke with them. I don’t care what the Western msm says about Russia or that some blind activists believe that nothing has changed there since Stalin. I care what the Russians say. All of that has now changed and the Russians I meet are no longer unhappy. Suddenly there is a new freedom for them that we in the West do not have. Some day I want to try an experiment. I want to walk down the streets of Washington with a sign saying “marriage is a union between a man and a woman.” And I want to record the response of passersby on video. Then I want to translate this into Russian and do the same thing in Moscow. In your heart you know what the results would be. You say you want strong national defense. But what is it about our nation that needs defending? Two bakers were fined $130,000 last year in Oregon for refusing to blaspheme marriage. My pastor in PA made the mistake of defending the traditional Christian definition of marriage a few years ago and the next Tuesday his home was torched. Is this what you want to defend, my friend?

  • ericsiverson

    There are not many believers of communism left in Russia or any of the eastern European countries . It seems those that have tried communism don’t think much of it .It is the United States and western Europe that think communism could work better than what we have got .

  • ericsiverson

    maybe not obliterate the whole country but only kill about 200,milion people the first day

  • Erudite Mavin

    Putin also hate Christians and plays them along for fools.
    Also I have heard Irving Kristol and his wife Gertrude Himmelfarb interviewed at times many years back and have their books.
    You are pushing the Left Wing and Libertarian propaganda against what you call Neoconservatives which is another way of saying, the Jooooos.
    You are also immature when it comes to Russia, their history and psychology.
    I lived through the cold war which was anything but cold from the 1950s to the Berlin Wall, Cuban Missile crisis, and could list for the next hours.
    I also saw it first hand in East Germany in early 1980s.
    What Putin is doing now is no different, to suck in the ignorant who as they say, we spit in their eye and they think it is dew.

  • Erudite Mavin

    Seeing E. Berlin is not the same as going deep into East Germany at that time, to Leipzig, Wittenberg,
    Eisenach, Eisleben, Erfurt, Weimar, Halle and more with a Communist minder at our shoulder the entire time.

  • Erudite Mavin

    Also you don’t have to tell me about the Nazis, Dozens and dozens of my neighbors from a young child and growing up had numbers on their arms, they were just around 5 or 6 years out of the concentration camps.
    I also saw Buchenwald which my Great uncle in Patton’s 3rd Army help liberate.

  • donhank

    How does he play Christians for fools and what evidence do you have of this?

  • Erudite Mavin

    Just as Hitler used the Fatherland and their purity to bring along the duped people

    Russia having centuries of religion as their daily life and abolished in the Soviet era, and brought back ca 1990. Putin plays on this and Mother Russia to for his expansion of a Neo Soviet empire and his KGB trained rule.
    —–
    Putin who said he admires Joseph Stalin and dedicated the last Olympics in Russia to Stalin.
    The same Joseph Stalin who killed over 60 million innocent people including
    starving to death millions of innocent Ukrainians in the early 1930s.
    ———————
    https://www.firstthings.com/article/2015/11/a-church-of-empire
    How Putin has used the Church to get back in line for his return of Soviet Union Pt. II

    In part —
    That the Church has come to mirror the state in its rhetoric and animating vision is hardly surprising. The imperial state needs religion to provide moral legitimacy for its rule. State leaders have concluded that the democratic legitimacy arising from elections is insufficient. This is partly because it is difficult to view recent elections as truly democratic, and partly because Russia does not have a civic tradition that regards the will of the people as a convincing mandate.

    And so the Church Revival, which in its 1.0 phase sought to revive pre-revolution Christianity, has become Church Revival 2.0, a post-Soviet civil religion providing ideological support for the Russian state. The Russian Church has become a Church of Empire, with ecclesiastical practices and institutions shaped accordingly. We seem to be at the dawn of a new epoch in Russian Orthodox history, one that in all likelihood will be known as “neo-imperial.”

    In this 2.0 phase, the Church is circling back to Sovietism, promoting conformity and dreaming of imperial expansion. In one sense, these sympathies should be understood pragmatically, as a means of currying favor with state authorities. Nonetheless, there are genuine pro-Soviet sentiments within the Russian Church. Their presence is easily explained.

  • Erudite Mavin

    Read
    “Winter is Coming” Why Vladimir Putin and the Enemies of the Free world Must Be Stopped by G. Kasparov.
    “The New Cold War” Putin’s Russia and the Threat to the West by Edward Lucas.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    World Government is so advanced, it would not matter too much if Russia was nuked.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Russia is playing dead.

  • donhank

    You will get no argument for me, Mavin. I spoke with Russians in Leningrad who had been given the 3rd degree by KGB agents just for associating with foreigners. I was even scolded by one of our KGB agent “tourist guides” for trying to take photos from the bus window on a strategic highway south of Moscow. But my focus is on the evil of totalitarianism itself, not on a particular ethnicity. From that standpoint, I was able to study what the Third Reich did to Jews and the devastation that it wreaked on Russian cities, as well as the Soviet Union’s totalitarianism. I discovered much later that the EU was actually a brainchild of the Third Reich and that the first EU (then called the EEC) commissioner was Walter Hallstein, the Nazi lawyer who wrote the Blood and Honor law (prohibiting Germans and Jews from marrying). There are no bad races or ethnicities, just bad ideologies and they are deadly for America and the world. Russophobic writers like Kincaid and Trevor Loudon insist that the Soviet Union never fell and that they are just waiting to pounce on us with a nuke attack. This is all based on testimony of dissidents who had escaped the USSR and were reduced to making a living by showing that the Russians were still communists and just pretending to be like us. If you were a foreigner living in the US and had no salable skills, you might be tempted to badmouth the Russians too to survive — by writing books and holding speaking engagements, as Golitsyn and others did. Yet these same Russophobes never say anything like this about the Germans. They assume that the Third Reich is dead and that today’s Germany is free and open, but the truth is that there are laws that censor speech in Germany and like Hitler, today’s leaders are using the Jew-hating Muslims to wreak havoc and to destroy European traditions. Most Jews have already left terror-ridden Europe, thanks to these EU “leaders” and their love affair with Islam. If you think I am exaggerating when I say that Nazism is not dead, please have a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV-6pHdUpfk.

  • donhank

    Since one cannot prove a negative, no one can of course prove that the Orthodox church is not “providing ideological support for the Russian state.” However, the Russian state has no palpable ideology. It simply wants to “make Russia great again” if you will. As long as Russia is not promoting communism, the only worry for the professional Russophobes is that Russia will be healthy, prosperous and normal and that it will not kowtow to Washington. But none of you Russophobes can show why it should not be healthy, prosperous and normal and why it should kowtow to an increasingly corrupt foreign government. Ever since the Enlightenment there has been a movement among Western “leaders” and their toadies in government, education, msm, professions, etc, to keep up a perpetual revolution. It started with the French Revolution, was perpetuated by Napoleon — who tried to impress this perpetual revolution upon the world, and is alive and well throughout Western institutions. The ultimate goal is to eliminate traditional Christianity. Neoconservatism is a diabolically clever way to accomplish this by mimicking conservatism, and until the Trump phenomenon and the Putin shake-up in geopolitics, it has encountered amazingly little resistance. The clue that their motive is a racist anti-Russian sentiment is the statement of politicians of both parties that Russia is public enemy No. 1 but without ever providing any justification for this. If there were a justification, they could state it. But they can’t. The Russophobe press can’t do that either. The goal of these people is ultimately to rid the world of traditional Christianity. And yet, the movement has recruited “Christians” (like Kincaid) to achieve this goal. Are they false Christians or just paid agitators addicted to the ill gotten pieces of silver?

  • donhank

    The Russophobic ideas expressed in the titles alone make these books unpalatable to me. I could not hate Russia and Russians if you paid me. This is pure irrational racist hate. After all, would you enjoy reading an anti-Semitic screed?

  • ericsiverson

    you are doing just fine for sure non of our last three U.S. government administrations have protected or even protested Christian extermination any place I know of . They have consistently been on the other side of protecting Christians every time .

  • donhank

    Right, Eric. And that is not a coincidence. Our wars (except in the Americas) have all redounded to the death of Christians and the burning of churches — including Kosovo, the best kept secret of all, exposed only here http://laiglesforum.com/look-whats-happening-in-the-european-region-that-nato-defended/3786.htm. So why? Because back in the early 70s, Nixon and Kissinger concluded a petrodollar agreement with King Faisal. No one knows what exactly was in it, but we can extrapolate from the outcomes of all wars since then and see that our promise, whether tacit or written, was to help the Saudi Rat Pack sell their Wahhabism, the most dangerous and violent and intolerant “religion” the world has ever known. That will always be a secret because few Americans can bear to think our country would stoop so low. But this flaw in human nature is precisely why the Neocons can get away with their Satanic plans.

  • ericsiverson

    I’am not sure how old you are either Maybe so old you don’t know the world has changed fast the last 20 yrs . Russia is no longer a communist country it is a Christian capitalist country at about the place we were at economically in say the year 1900 . I few rich men get most of the money . Russia is classified as the most Christian country in Europe , They have built many churches in Russia since the collapse of communism . Putin has strengthened Russia faster the last 16 years than Hitler strengthened Germany in the 30s . I believe Russia today alone is stronger than the Soviet Union ever was And a whole lot richer too .

  • ericsiverson

    generous spirit with other peoples money .Why not use our own money rather than the grandkids

  • Steven Barrett

    Putin’s got another mentor to follow (even besides his old boss Yuri Andropov. SInce he’s really more into reviving Russia’s more glorious side of Tsarism, hell, we need look no further than Alexander III, Russia’s unquestionably last full real Tsar of Tsars and father figure of all Russians. Putin strikes me more like the proverbial family lawyer holding all the secrets who’ll “unveil them” just at the right time when the will’s about to be opened.

  • mioahu

    Yeah I know it has changed , i was there when it did, ,…and I continue to go every year…so i know how it’s like.
    It’s still a dictatorship, where you get killed if you oppose the government, and it has not given up it’s ambitions for world power…trying to rebuild its sphere of influence
    Other than that, it is indeed much better than it was during Soviet regime, dunno about most religious cause Poland and Romania are waaay up there, but pretty good

  • ericsiverson

    Steven do you know that Russia and China can’t see any difference in NATO or the old fashion NAZI s and I must confess they are using the same people and I think they have the same desire to seek the same advantages . Russia and China did not roll over last time and they have no intentions of rolling over this time . I believe Trump wants to eliminate NATO and there is no better way than to ask the countries that don’t want to start W War 3 to pay for what NATO does .NATO has done nothing but cause trouble for more than twenty years It is even much worse than the UN Which is also not really good enough to exist.

  • Steven Barrett

    Just two words only needs to be said for effectively FInlandizing ALL of Europe by letting NATO wither on the drying vine asa designed by Trump.

    Nyet and Nuts to both Donald Trump and they guy who really has dreams of us letting him practically walk in for a song or equally worthless Donald Trump speech. Just too risky. Huuuuge risk not worth even giving a thought. You’re going to need to find elsewhere to chop the national budget. Not our best ever alliance.

  • ericsiverson

    I think Jesus was a communist and surely a socialist . Do you hate him too ? It seems a lot of people living in very cold hard to survive climates turn out to be socialists . Maybe Eskimoes are the greatest socialists of all

  • Erudite Mavin

    You are a babe in the woods.
    You have no knowledge of Communist disinformation.
    I saw it first hand in 1983 in soviet controlled East Germany and is their mode of operation.

  • Erudite Mavin

    LOL!
    I know many Russians who hated Communism and why they either escaped or got out early 1990s.
    There are plenty socialist counties to live in so your type should move on over to one and leave.
    Why bother to create one more Socialist country where the non workers leach off of the tax paying workers.

  • ericsiverson

    I think most Russians and eastern block countries hated communism . There are more socialist here and in western Europe than in Russia . Russia is now classified as the most Christian country in Europe and they are more capitalist than socialist too .

  • Erudite Mavin

    Keep telling yourself that, it will make you feel warm and comfortable
    You give yourself away not having No first hand knowledge in large numbers, just the propaganda you blindly believe.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Why in the world would the epicenter of communism that subverted the U.S. for decades, oppose the realization of their goal????

  • donhank

    Because the epicenter has moved to Washington, DC. And because communism is no longer their goal. Unlike Neocons, Russians are capable of learning new things. You Neocons are the only people who haven’t noticed that communism has failed in Russia, and that the Neocommunism of the Neocons will fail in the US. But don’t take my word for it, wait for the next 4 years of your gal arch-commie Hillary and see for yourself. Just keep carrying her water for her like good little toadies and then you will learn the lesson that the Russians learned — that is, if you are as smart as they are. (Not sure about that).

  • donhank

    Please cite source.

  • donhank

    You seem to think that Russians are incapable of changing. If that is true, then I assume the Germans are also incapable and you are still goose stepping and keeping the ovens warm.

  • donhank

    I do not read Neocon propaganda. The world has moved on and you are stuck in the past.

  • donhank

    So somehow, Russia is incapable of changing while the good old goose steppers are no longer gassing Jews? If the Germans have changed, then why is Momma Merkel inviting a million Jew hating Muslims into Germany without even vetting them? There is plenty of evidence that Russia has changed, but if you view the linked videos, you can easily see that the Germans are the ones who have not changed, just gotten sneakier. So what is it about fascism that you find so fascinating?

  • donhank

    Do you realize that you just described the great “land of the free”?

  • donhank

    right. Russia, whose national debt is only 15% of GDP, could not possibly be a model for the US, a country with a national debt WAY over 100% of GDP, right?

  • donhank

    There you go again.History shows that empires die and the territories that hosted them learn from their mistakes. Russia is not equivalent to evil communism unless you are a Russophobe and just assume that all Russians are evil. But remember: Russophobia is racism and every bit as evil as anti-Semitism.

  • donhank

    Why would a country that has been ravaged by a failed system continue to pursue that system once it had switched to a better system? Or did you think that Russians are an inferior race that is incapable of learning from its mistakes?

  • donhank

    If they are both on the same page, then why do US and European politicians keep saying negative things about Russia, deny them access to many Rio games, heap sanctions upon them, try to thwart them in Syria, deliberately provoke them with a coup in Ukraine (which Wikileaks has just shown was run by Soros), and so much more. BTW, why does AIM and the rest of the Neocons support Soros’ policies and actions across the globe?

  • donhank

    In today’s world, with ISIS running rampant threatening all of civilization, and Russia being the only world power effectively fighting it — and Al Qaeda as well — there can only be 2 plausible explanations for being an anti-Russian warmongering Neocon:
    1–plain naked stupidity, or
    2–someone is paying the Neocons good money to pretend they are stupid.
    I will give the Neocons the benefit of the doubt and say it is the latter.

  • Steven Barrett

    Some of you guys must be having rapture sessions whenever you put on Slavianka Farewell or some of the other rousing Russian marches. Of course, not every Russian dislikes the U.S., or perhaps I’ll dare say most could hardly be bothered thinking about us as they go about their daily routines making sure they have a roof over their heads for themselves and loved ones. Sound familiar? It looks like some of you need new hobbies.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    You don’t understand marxist dialectic.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Why did the military start using the hammer and sickle flag again?

  • donhank

    And you and your fellow Neonazicons do not understand that Putin is not USING Marxist dialectics, which has now been adopted everywhere throughout the West. The Russians have grown up. The West has downsized intellectually.

  • donhank

    To piss you off, Cliffy.

  • donhank

    It was resurrected to see if Neocons could be taught humor. I am pretty sure this attempt will fail. Now for the non-Neocons among you, here is the real reason (not to be opened by Cliffy et al.): http://rbth.com/arts/2014/07/19/serp_i_molot_38327.html

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    The Russians have not grown up. Just this month Putin made it illegal for Christians to share the gospel. Next year is the 100th anniversary of the Bolshevik revolution and many believe that Russia is going to start showing it’s true colors.

  • donhank

    First, let’s have a link to that news that it is ILLEGAL for Christians to share the gospel in Russia, please. It is not true. Second, it is de facto illegal in the US to share the WHOLE gospel in public. 2 bakers in Oregon were fined $130,000 for refusing to accept a non-biblical definition of marriage. Did you write about this, Cliffy? Christians throughout the West are being fined or arrested for standing up to the gay agenda. So how dare any Westerner pretend that Russia is a worse offender? The new law in Russia limits the activities of organizations and sects that claim to be Christian but are not and which represent a threat to public security. Let’s look at the background. The US has trained and armed terrorists in Chechnya, causing and exacerbating the Chechen war against Russia. (http://laiglesforum.com/about-that-hammer-and-sickle-on-the-russian-army-flag/3973.htm). If I were a Russian lawmaker, I would therefor demand that any American entering the territory be carefully vetted and would not allow any political or religious proselytizing until it could be determined that such was not a front for political activity and a threat to stability. For security reasons, I would consider all Neocons fascist agitators and would ban their entry into the Russian Federation. Remember that the German fascists killed more Russians than any other people. Neocons are dangerous fascists.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    One of the best ways to reveal that you are a leftist or a communist is to talk about how the German National socialists killed more Russian world socialists than anybody.

  • donhank

    Does this mean no one is allowed to tell the truth?

  • donhank

    Cliffy just said that anyone who reminds us that Russia had more casualties in WW II than all other allies combined is a commie. So people who know history had better shut up or they will be dragged before the gestapo tribunal and sent to Buchenwald? What I don’t get is how people who support Hillary can call themselves conservatives and act like NOT supporting this lefty witch is a sign that you are a commie!!? And how can people talk and act like Nazi brownshirts think they are good Americans? Didn’t we beat the Nazis in the 40s? How dare they come back now and act like they own our turf and treat real Americans like dirt? One thing I would remind them: Trump is doing better in the polls. Where will they hide if he happens to win despite their efforts to have a lefty Neocon anti-American criminal traitor elected who would almost certainly leave our country in more of a shambles than Obama did? And for MONEY. Shame.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    The truth is that both Germany and Russia in the 30’s were genocidal regimes, which Russia was far worse in terms of numbers. Most people are not sympathetic to one and not the other.

  • donhank

    If both were genocidal, why are you warning ONLY that Russia is going to repeat its past? Why aren’t you warning about the return of Nazism?

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    For one, the goal of Communism is world conquest. Nazism is a nationalist ideology. Millions of people around the world live under communist regimes. I don’t see too many oppressed by Nazism.

  • donhank

    So the invasion of France, Poland, Russia, Yugoslavia, etc, was NOT the start of world conquest? Where would you guess Hitler would have eventually stopped spontaneously if the allies had not kicked his Arsch? The German-led EU shows patterns very similar to those of the Third Reich. Hitler got along famously with the Mufti, who helped him kill Jews in Yugoslavia. The Merkel-led EU uses Muslims to displace Jews. There are almost none left in Europe, you know. In Hitler’s case, he openly hated Jews. In the EU’s case, they pretend to have overcome Nazism but are supporting — along with Washington — the Bandera groups and Azov Battalion. I am sure you know who they are, right? Of course, you recently told me that opposing Nazism means you are a commie, so I had better be careful about telling the truth about these things, eh, old boy? BTW, does that mean that Nazis are the good guys?

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    “Dictatorship can be established only by a victory of socialism in different countries or groups of countries, after which there would be federal unions of the various groupings of these socialist countries, and the third stage would be an amalgamation of these regional unions into a world government.” – ComIntern 1936

    European Union, South American Union, African Union, etc. Today 80% of the laws in the UK are made in Brussels.

    Socialists have no tolerance for the patriarchal structure, which Jews have an unshakeable obedience to. The Soviet Union hated the Kulaks for the same reason. Not because they were Kulaks, but because they held a to patriarchal structure.

  • donhank

    I will cautiously say that we seem to have found a sliver of common ground here. The UN has already divided the world into 10 economic regions, and this is indeed reminiscent of the Comintern memo’s statements. Where I think we differ is that you seem to think this will all happen under Russian control, whereas the US, with organizations such as the CFR, is clearly leading this movement. The little incident on the tarmac at the G20 summit shows that Obama and Putin/Xi JInping are not on the same page, not even close. Washington wants a Washington led world. Russia wants sovereignty for all nations and his actions show he means it.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    I agree that the CFR is a facilitator of the NWO. I disagree that Obama, Putin, Xi Jlnping are not on the same page. That is just a show.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    You know that I, like millions of Soviet citizens, over 20 million,
    was a member of the Communist Party of the USSR and not only was I a
    member of the party but I worked for almost 20 years for an organization
    called the Committee for State Security [KGB]. I was not, as you know, a party member by necessity. I liked Communist and socialist ideas very much and I like them still.

    — Russian President Vladimir Putin; statement made at meeting of
    All-Russia People’s Front in Stavropol; published in Newsweek, January
    25, 2016

  • donhank

    Hardly possible. This embarrassment was too ignominious. BTW, sorry for confusing you with that ridiculous Neocon Cliffy. I can imagine how insulted you were.

  • donhank

    Here it is in Russian. Since you are Russian, you can see the difference: ???????? ?? ??????????????? ?????? ???, ????? ??????????? ??????????? ?????????, ??? ??????? ?? ??? ????????????, ? ??? ??????? ?????? ??????, ?? ??????? ????????? ? ???????????????? ? ???????????????? ?????.
    And then the article in Vedomosti shows that while Putin liked the ideas, which included equality and so on, he understood that these were never implemented in the Soviet Union. He also said the Tsarist regime did not deserve the bad rap it was given by the commies. In other words, he liked the ideas but hated the commies:
    ?? ?????? ??????????, ? ???? ??????? ???? ????????????? ????? ??????? ????: ?????????, ????????, ???????. «?? ???????????? ?????????? ???? ????????????? ???? ? ????? ?????? ???? ?????? ?? ????, ??? ???????? ??????????-????????. ???? ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ??????», – ??????? ??. ????? ????????, ??? ??? ???????? ??????? ????? ? ??????????, ?????? ? ???????? ????????? ? ???????? ????????????? ?????????? ???????????.

  • Le Fox

    I think the issue of Snowden isn’t that he’s a traitor – or some alleged Soros plant or KGB spy – but that he leaked NSA secrets and crimes and people just don’t want to come to terms with that. Say whatever you want, but Snowden, like Assange, is his own infowarrior.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Oh, come on, the CPUSA gushes over this guy and you think Putin and Xi Jln are not with him?

    http://www.cpusa.org/article/communist-party-usa-responds-to-obama-s-state-of-the-union/

  • donhank

    So did you compare the Russian text I sent you with the translation you sent us for the purpose of making us thing Putin is a commie?

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd
  • donhank

    You can’t read Russian, can you, Mr. KGB agent?

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    A communist is always a communist.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd
  • donhank

    the report from the Neocon site you linked to claims there was an increase in attacks by the Donbass insurgency around Aug 31/Sept 1. That is a fabrication (do you write for this site, Cliffy? Or is it that fiction writer friend of yours Jeffrey Nyquist?). What the idiot author did not realize is that the OSCE has daily reports and the one here http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/262326 shows that there were violations ONLY on the part of the government on those dates. In fact, when the OSCE investigated the government side, they found 9 tanks and 2 mortars missing. Oops! Ciffy, you guys are being PAID to lie and you can’t even do that right.

  • donhank

    How inspiring. So then why do you Neocons keep quoting the COMMUNIST KGB AGENT GOLITSYN?

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    There were some in KGB who became dissidents. But you don’t get to be the head of the KGB for nothing.

    https://youtu.be/h5QTjg2HI5Y

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    The BBC is a neocon site?????

  • donhank

    But no one got into the KGB without above average intelligence.

  • donhank

    If you think the msm are accurate, why do you go to the site of an organization that calls itself Accuracy in Media and purports to set the msm straight? But if the BBC is not getting its info from the OSCE or if it contradicts the OSCE, then why do we have an OSCE in the first place? The OSCE has observers permanently stationed in Novorossia. The BBC does not.

  • mioahu

    News (20 years delayed, but worth if you didn’t get it then)… the USSR collapsed, they couldn’t keep up with the US on ANY level, and Russia can barely keep up now. What’s the latest great russian company ? the latest success, the latest great contribution to the world ? i hear crickets….

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    If you consider the BBC a neocon media, you are mistaken..

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    You do not get to be head of the KGB unless you look at someone with an angelic expression and tell them a baldfaced lie.

    Yuri was above average intelligence:
    https://youtu.be/qlpODYhnPEo

  • donhank

    Didn’t you get the news? Russia has collapsed. Putin will be moving into Cliffy’s mom’s basement with him.

  • donhank

    I have heard this more than once. I respect Yuri. He doesn’t lie like the others. He has said that the EU is the new Soviet Union. He is right.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd
  • mioahu

    the usual stupid liberal tactic when confronted with facts they can’t deny … cause they don’t know any facts, just bs talking points…way to represent donhank

  • JAMOACHA

    TheGreatestStoryNeverTold.tv

  • eric

    This article is wrong when you say Russia is invading Europe sorry but I think Russia is in Europe . I don’t consider Russia has invaded Ukraine either . NATO and the United States started or assisted a revolution in Ukraine . And Russia has allowed Crimera to vote to leave Ukraine without firing a shot . Remember The United States bombed Yugoslavia for months to get Kosovo to leave Serbia .

  • eric

    You would expect with your story Putin should have been more in favor of Hillary or Barry Sanders .

  • eric

    Have you been in Russia since Solzhenitsyn returned or Putin was fist elected 16 yrs ago

  • eric

    Have you been in Russia since Solzhenitsyn returned or Putin was fist elected 16 yrs ago

  • eric

    There are fewer people in Russia or any of the former eastern block countries that would like to try communisim again . than there are in the so called western democracies

  • eric

    You surely are not alone in your thinking I watched the war against Yugoslavia . NATO united with the same people that Hitler did when he destroyed Yugoslavia . I dare say the Russians and the Chinese can’t see a bit of difference in the NAZIs and NATO either . Just Imagine NATO or NAZIs have smashed Yugoslavia taken Poland more than !/2 Ukraine and the Baltic states . This looks like about where the NAZIs were before they were turned around last time . In Yugoslavia one cruise missile hit the Chinese embassy accidently on purpose . Wesley Clark issued orders to just shoot the Russian soldiers because they might try to protect orthodox Christians . NATO tricks look a awful lot like NAZI tricks to both Russia and China . Can’t blame Russia for looking for new friends like Iran , China , Syria , India , Brazil . Can’t blame Russia for going on a fast track rearmament program either and make it very dangerous to just shoot Russian soldiers .

  • eric

    Putin was installed in 1999 or about by Solzhenitsyn a very devout orthodox Christian . Solzhenitsyn saw what NATO did to the largest ethnic group the Orthodox Christians in Yugoslavia He sacked Yeltsin and found Putin . I would say Solzhenitsyn might have been the most powerful man in Russia at this time . I never heard of Solzhenitsyn regretting his decision

  • donhank

    Yes, and the really exciting thing that is happening in Russia and the former Soviet Union is the total rejection of the so-called liberal free market economy, which has all the vices of libertarianism, a philosophy that has allowed what some call “social Marxism” to proliferate. No nation can stand for long if it allows itself to be infiltrated by ideas, without fignting back. But the West is selling this idea and as a result, is in free fall. You need a strong defense not only against military attack but also against social attack. Our children are suffering from lack of guidance and all the West can say is “isn’t it great that marijuana is available for everyone and our children can make up their own minds whether to take dope, have sex at the age of 9 and be whatever sex they choose?”

  • eric

    If we look at the last 2 or 3 decades how many countries has Russia or China invaded . and count up the countries or revolutions we have started or countries we have attacked . It should not be very hard for United States to challenge the most aggressive country on the planet . We only have to consider ourselves . . We did this a couple of years ago and Obama followed our wishes and we did not bomb Syria . Obama had the decency to ask congress and we got a chance to call our congressmen a tell him no . Thank you congress and Obama .

  • eric

    I suspect why the Russian government can operate at a low debt level is because the government still owns a lot of property .{ gas and Oil and other natural resources } Russia right now is about where the USA was in the year 1900 A few rich guys own everything and don’t pay to much taxes . But the Russian people our proud of their country , their government and new found freedom . Russia citizens have a income of only about 1/3 American citizens .. Russia could not keep up to the United States because the communist system did not give the people enough freedom to produce . The communist government wanted to make all the decisions . where the man doing the work might know he should make changes . the changes could not be made unless the decision maker decided its time , by that time it is to late . Communism just can’t compete with capitalism on production . Russia has also been forced to concentrate on armements because they think they will be attacked by NATO like Yugoslavia was . Russia has made great strides in freedom and production ever since the soviet Union fell apart . Putin has strengthened Russia faster since 2000 than Hitler did Germany in the 30s . Look at the new high speed planes they are flying in Syria . Russia has built many Christian Churches . The Russian people are happy with their new United government . If suddenly the United States was forced to pay up what they owe and spend no more than what the people pay in taxes we might also find out we are not so wealthy either .

  • Steven Barrett

    LOL, if Kipling were alive, he’d have penned “Take up the non-Slav’s burden.”

  • Steven Barrett

    You need to do more homework on Russian history to understand just how far and wide we still remain apart on a lot of cultural, never mind political differences. Yes, we’re both capitalistic nations, but dig deeper and you’ll see a far more free-booting style of cowboy capitalism taking root in Russia under the era of her new oligarchic versions of the old Boyars of Tzarist days, esp. the era predating the liberation of the serfs in the 1860s.
    Besides, even two capitalist regions can easily slip into a cold war or very hot shooting war. Just look at our Antebellum years from the Federalist era till the first shots were fired in Charleston harbor. The North and South, the two largest “free market” collection of sovereign states went to war over slavery (or as the South still mysteriously has the gall to insist) “states’ rights” to determine if it will or won’t subject a whole race of human beings because of their color to permanent chattel slavery and threat of a daily lashing.
    LOL, don’t feel bad. Lots of times I’ve had some “clear opinions” about some subjects where prior to my “deeper diggin’s” I thought were pretty black n’ white, too. And with Russia, remember Churchill’s famous observation that trying to understand her moves (er Stalin’s) is like peeling an onion. (There was more but I’m rushed and can’t recall the whole line. I think you can find it on the web, though.) It’d be nice, no matter who wins in November to have the kind of smoother relationship with Russia you’d like and I’m sure everybody in the WH and State, but we have to keep in mind the wealth of history and not be too quick to dismiss it just because it might seem too burdensome or overly fraught with the “finer points” nobody can afford to overlook.

  • Steven Barrett

    Not really. Putin’s never been fond of Hillary to begin with. And in Bernie Sanders, he’d be forever facing the fact we elected a President who was the son of people who fled Putin’s old (Red) empire which he still admires. Trump ever ready and eager to play patsy to Putin is just Vladimir Putin’s kind of guy.

  • Macy’s Mom

    This will be a meeting of Putin the tyrant and Trump the closet Communist.