Accuracy in Media

In typically biased fashion, Time magazine has greeted the defeat of Canada’s conservatives with the headline, “Why Justin Trudeau’s Election Is Good News for the Fight Against Climate Change.” But the story has a valid point which bears on the question of why Obama campaign operatives were deployed to subvert the conservative government of Stephen Harper. Obama expects new Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to help promote a climate change treaty to overthrow global capitalism that is expected to come out of a United Nations conference in Paris in December.

Canada has become a satellite of Obama, writes Judi McLeod of Canada Free Press.

But another inevitable outcome of the liberal victory may be more Islamic terrorism in North America. The new Canadian prime minister has extended open arms to Muslims in Canada and more immigration from the Middle East while declaring the need to withdraw from the fight against Islamic terrorism.

A pro-abortion Catholic, Trudeau wants to legalize marijuana and establish more injection sites for heroin users around the country.

If you hadn’t heard about Obama’s campaign to destroy Canada’s conservative government, you missed our story from last week, “Obama Plans Takedown of Another U.S. Ally.”

The destruction of Harper wasn’t as bloody as the Obama/Hillary Clinton effort to overthrow Moammar Gadhafi in Libya, which resulted in the Benghazi murders of four Americans. Nevertheless, the overthrow of the Harper government had the fingerprints of Obama all over it.

Judi McLeod of Canada Free Press, one of my key sources in last week’s article, summed it up in a story with the headline, “Obama Campaign Team Hands Canada Over to the Lib-Left.” She notes, “When word first leaked out that key Obama campaign workers had joined the Trudeau election campaign, the mainstream media continued to look the other way.”

But there’s no reason for conservatives in the U.S. media or Congress to look the other way.

Commenting on misleading polls that underestimated the liberal tide, McLeod said, “What happened was similar to the 2012 Barack Obama victory over Republican Mitt Romney, with a poll-portrayed nail-biter election that turned into an 11th hour landslide for Obama.”

This is a warning for conservatives in the U.S. who think the pendulum is swinging back to them in 2016. Four years ago many of the top commentators at Fox News and Salem Radio thought Romney was a sure winner. Their faulty predictions have not blunted their drive to be “experts” again this time around. Many of them have already missed the significance of the Donald Trump phenomenon and its staying power.

On the left, the progressive machine is on a roll, from Britain, where the Labor Party elected a Marxist as its head, to the United States, where Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) is enticing what many considered smart young people with promises of free taxpayer-financed college educations.

Canada is the latest evidence that conservatives who think history is on their side are in for a rude awakening.

Writing at the conservative Canadian website TheRebel.media, Hamish Marshall notes that the get-out-the-vote effort by the Liberal Party and the labor unions supporting Trudeau was impressive. Marshall wrote, “What defeated the Conservatives more than the loss of votes, or the collapse of the NDP [New Democratic Party, the third major party in the race] to the Liberals was the huge number of new voters. Turnout will be in the range of 69%, with 3 million more votes cast than in 2011. The vast majority of those new voters supported the Liberals.”

The situation is bleak in Canada, probably worse than many conservatives would care to admit. The battles over abortion-on-demand and homosexual rights are basically over in Canada, while they continue in the U.S. On social issues, Harper was credited by Canadian conservatives with slowing down the movement for euthanasia. He fought a national day care scheme with tax credits for parents. But that’s been about it.

Giving up on the Conservative Party, some Canadians created the Christian Heritage Party (CHP) to compete and wage a real political battle for traditional values. It is a minor political party that didn’t do very well in the October 19 elections.

The reason, according to Peter Vogel of the Christian Heritage Party, is that Canada has already been fundamentally transformed. “We had a ‘conservative’ government that was not socially conservative because Canada is not socially conservative, and now we have a truly liberal government because our society is liberal,” he said. It is a sad fact. Like much of Europe, Canada has abandoned its Judeo-Christian roots.

Vogel is right: the Harper conservatives were afraid to be bold. They operated as if cultural transformation was a fact of life they could not really change. The Conservative Party had a platform that was vague and based on staying the course, mostly economically.

In tough language, Vogel went on to say, “We elected a government that will make matters worse for the unborn, and other vulnerable citizens, if that is possible. They will open our borders to erase Canada’s Christian heritage. (How many churches did Mr. Trudeau visit compared to the number of mosques he visited?) It is a government that is committed to impoverishing Canadians by increasing taxes (such as the ‘Carbon Tax’ and continuing to run a deficit). It is a government that will not fight terrorism in the regions from which it comes, but will allow terrorists to come to Canada. Then we will have to fight them as they radicalize our youth, blow-up our buildings, and kill our citizens.”

The comment about Trudeau visiting more mosques than churches is significant. This political fact has dramatic implications.

The CHP says that over 50 terrorist organizations are currently active in Canada and that the Canadian refugee and immigration system “is inadequate to secure the nation from the threats posed by terrorism.”

Of course, the United States is also threatened by this problem, which is bound to get worse under Trudeau. Perhaps Scott Walker’s reported off-hand comment about possibly erecting a wall between the U.S. and Canada now makes sense. (Walker did not specifically advocate a wall along our northern border but acknowledged that law enforcement authorities had discussed a possible terrorist threat from Canada).

A viral video posted on but not produced by TheRebel.media was a stark warning about Trudeau’s involvement in Muslim causes. Indeed, it showed a picture of Trudeau reciting the Muslim convert’s “shahada” prayer during a visit to a mosque.

Ezra Levant of TheRebel.media wrote at the Toronto Sun that Trudeau wore a full Arab-style Muslim dress called a jalabiya to the mosque in B.C. called the Surrey Jamia Masjid. Levant explained, “But it’s not Trudeau’s dress that was the most unusual. It’s what he did. He went to the mosque to participate in a religious ritual, called the Maghrib salah. It’s a daily prayer service with a particular meaning. Part of the prayer is called the shahada, which in Arabic means to testify. As in, to testify to the Truth that Allah is the one true God, and Mohammed is his one true Prophet. To say the shahada, in the presence of two or more Muslim males, is the sole requirement in Islamic law to convert to Islam.”

He added, “I don’t believe Trudeau is Muslim. I don’t believe he is anything other than what his handlers and costume designers put in his hands before each public event. And in Trudeau’s case, his senior policy adviser just happens to be Omar Alghabra, the Saudi-born former president of the Canadian Arab Federation.”

Trudeau opposes the fight against the Islamic State. The Washington Post and other media are now reporting that Trudeau “would make good on a campaign promise to withdraw Canada’s jets from the U.S.-led bombing campaign against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.” This would seem to be a break with Obama’s policy, except for the fact that Obama’s heart was never in the fight to begin with. Hence, Russia’s Vladimir Putin has stepped in to the void deliberately created by the U.S. President.

U.S. Congressional leaders in the U.S. seem preoccupied with whom to elect as the new Speaker of the House, as well as Benghazi. Those are important matters. But it might make some sense, in terms of oversight of the Obama administration, to launch an inquiry into American political interference in the Canadian elections.

What does possible House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) think about that? Some conservatives want to know.




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Comments

  • RMThoughts

    The Canadian rout of Harper presages a similar heave-ho to the entrenched neo-con NWO money-junkie war machine in the US a year from now – the tragedy is the Canada first party is now on the Left while the conservatives are associated with globalism, NWO, globalism, interventionism and loss of individual liberty.

    The Neocon has provided the ideological basis for U.S. foreign policy, orientating U.S. foreign policy as a development from Wilsonian global liberal-democracy to what has become America’s exceptional “world revolutionary mission.” From Ledeen to Reagan and Bush the ideology has not been repudiated but rather continued by Obama.

    The American conservative movement, like the Canadian conservatives, have been co-opted intellectually and financially by the misnamed Neo- Conservatives. Your “Neoconservative” is very perplexing since “neoconservative” is a somewhat misleading term. Today’s Neoconservatives descend from, Troskyite “leftists,”. They have their roots in Trosky’s global communist revolution of a liberal democratic nature. Their policies are no longer workers socialism and communism that old conservatives fought and feared – rather, they promote a government-controlled capitalism, a globalist contemporary National Socialism instead.

  • Marshall Goodman

    Sounds like ACORN is alive and well north of the border, eh?
    The Black Hitler (a name for which I make no apologies — as I only make a
    valid comparison, if not state the absolute truth), is confiscating more land
    than Adolph and with far more serious consequences for Jews and Christians.
    Will an opposition leader to his territorial conquests emerge? Alas, it
    looks and feels darn bleak throughout the four corners of the world, not just
    in Canada or even China. (They
    have even seized the Vatican,
    God’s sake!) The [Marxist-Leninist] mental patients now run the asylum
    known as Planet Earth with an iron grip.

  • Marshall Goodman

    I agree with your analysis, it’s a good one for extemporaneous writing. But why not just call it fascism? It fits, even by today’s twisted, politically correct definition of the term.

  • LaTisha Jackson

    Yes

  • LaTisha Jackson

    Does anyone know why I get some codes when I click on Cliff’s columns in the menu? Only after re-booting the page normal text normal. Perhaps a part of the “foreign intelligence services” work in this country. Via proxies, of course. Also, does anyone know that Ambassador Stevens was killed to prevent him from going public about “foreign intelligence service” support for Libian opposition via arms sales? By proxie, of course.

  • hap46

    I’d like to know why the United Nations is not doing its job. Why is the Syrian conflict now in its third year? Why all the Syrian immigrants? I thought it was the job of the United Nations to avoid situations like this that affect so many countries now with immigrants.

  • Dennis .Brown

    Brilliant. Exactly what I’ve been saying.

  • Mykola Banderachuk

    I am a conservative but this article looks like it was written in the comedy mills of Vladimir Putin.

  • marlene

    This is clear evidence of how obama took the election last time. PS: I believe Trudeau’s a pedophile.

  • Steven Barrett

    “Canada is the latest evidence that conservatives who think history is on their side are in for a rude awakening;” but wait’ll the Democrats take back The South. LOL, I can just a see a mass migration of the real hard core righties after they’ve pulled mass camp-outs near the Russian embassy for their passports.
    Wonder how many red white n’ blue loyalist relatives and gals they’ll leave behind for the land of Slavianka Farewell. And where will they go to then when the Russians catch on to what they’ve tried to pull for the past 35 years since Reagan took office.

  • Lorilu

    A pro-abortion Catholic? There can be no such thing, because to be pro-abortion puts one in serious disagreement with the Church. Just saying.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Why not call it communism?

    G Edward Griffin: “From your personal experience, what is the difference between life under Communism and life in the United States?”

    Bezmenov: “Well, life is obviously very much different for [the] simple reason that the Soviet Union is state capitalist economically. It’s a state capitalism, where an individual has absolutely no rights, no value; his life is nothing; it’s just like an insect. He is disposable.”

    – Interview with Yuri Bezmenov, 1984

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    like catholic priests who molest boys?

    Or how about catholic who have vasectomies?

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    please explain how today’s christians and jews are suffering more that those during the holocaust under Hitler

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    First of all even if this was true … who cares..

    It’s been public knowledge that the Harper campaign got help from Australian conservative strategist Lynton Johnson. Harper also courted help from Crack smoking Rob Ford (which many will say sealed Harpers fate and doomed his election).

    But regardless, the one thing about this story which leads it to its BS pile is in Canada we have very very strict regulations on how parties spend their money (no such hing as Super PACs in Canada), and this Obama plant would have to be getting paid and thus must be available to public.

    Thirdly this story completely ignores the Canadian people’s desire to remove Harper and his cronies from office immediately!!

    As soon as the election was called all polls across the country saw the conservatives loosing badly.

    Either was, even the conservative party of Canada would never touch our socialist programs, mess with gay rights, or even think of opening up debate on abortion.

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    “I believe Trudeau’s a pedophile. ”

    What are you talking about??????

    That’s a most slanderous statement based on BS if I ever saw one!

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    If a government will allow the killing of babies, they reveal a contempt for life. Liberals are communists, and have a mountain of evidence which prove their contempt for Jews and Christians, the bible and life. They are capable of anything.

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    Even our previous conservative government did not fight against abortion.. Neither did any of the US’ previous conservative presidents since the rulign of Roe vs Wade.

    Has nothing to do with being liberal…

  • Beer Patzer

    There’s nothing accurate about the articles on this website. It’s just a mouthpiece for neocon bullshit.

  • Lorilu

    Catholic priests who do such things should be put in jail, and defrocked. They are not Catholics in good standing, nor are they decent human beings.

    Vasectomies are a far cry from abortion.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    You are either not a very intellectually honest person, or you are ignorant. Contempt is something you can see with your own eyes, and hear with your own ears, if you would simply remove the pacifier out of your mouth. If you are elected to represent the people and you allow 50 million people to cross your country’s borders illegally, then you hold the people you are supposed to serve and protect, in contempt! You hold their lives in contempt.

    The Constitution is a contract.

    Preamble of the Constitution:

    “We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect
    union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for
    the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the
    blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and
    establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

    A child can understand it.

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    vasectomies put one in serious disagreement with the Church.. just saying

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    still does not explain how anyone in america today right now is suffering more than a jew did in Auschwitz.. Regardless of how you think your constitution has been trampled (whether true or imagined), it cannot compare to be round up and put in a concentration camp.

    I am sick and tired of people belittleing the holocaust and claiming to be victims on a greater scale than the jews during ww2.

    And again no conservative president or prime minister has even attempted to overturn abortion laws.. as for the rest of your rant.. it had nothing to do with what was discussed.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Oh give me a break. Every Jew that supports marxist ideology belittles the holocaust. It was the ideology of the National Socialist Party, it was the ideology in the Soviet Union where millions were purged, it was the ideology in China where millions were purged, it was the ideology of Cambodia, and it is the ideology of liberals. Most Jews vote for Democrats, which is like voting for the noose that is one day going to hang you. It’s like kicking sand in the face of the martyrs at the holocaust. It is the most nonsensical thing imaginable, and yet you cannot get through to people. You’ve got a president who clearly is a friend of every enemy of Israel, yet how many Jews VOTED for this Joker???? And TWICE?? If you are a liberal, and are sick and tired of people “belittleing” the holocaust, then again it’s lunacy. Dialectic process does not cater to didactic principles. Principles must surrender to synthesis. You cannot defend Israel and support the party of compromise. That is why nearly every country in the world is lining up with the Palestinians. They are surrendering to compromise, i.e. liberalism, socialism, collectivism. People do not understand dialectic process, they do not understand marxist ideology, the surrender of principles, without a shot being fired.

  • slander is spoken…libel is written

  • Would you rather go to sleep and not wake up
    or have your head sawed off while (albeit temporarily) aware?
    …and that’s only one of the creative methods being employed by ISIS

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    again how is that affecting us here in NA? How are people here suffering more than wwii jews???

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    you realize that Israel is infact a socialist country ? with lots of kibutz and moshav with communal living?

    almost all countries are socialist to an extent.. heck even the U S of A has socialist programs that even the staunchest conservative would riot if they were taken away.

    Just don’t go to any extreme (whether full communist or unbridled capitalism)

    and again nothing you stated even comes close to the suffering of the jews during the holocaust. in fact you failed miserably and you have again insulted all those who did in fact suffer during the war. Shame on you!

  • In your comment that I replied to you didn’t specify a location. The comment you replied to spoke of the four corners of the world.

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    But all my posts were in reply to this absurd statement that Obama is worse for jews than hitler was.

    That was it. not debating isis’ brutality, not arguing about ethics of abortion, don’t give a crap about how terrified a right wing nutjob is of socialism.

    It was all about the overused, hitler comparison that every desperate fool uses to try and make a point.

    Everytime you use Goodwin’s law (Hitler comparison), your argument gets watered down and will loose validity.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    I am dead on. Every single socialist program whether in the U.S., Israel, or France is based on marxist ideology. Marx despised God, the family, morality, private property and called for genocide of certain ethnic groups back in the 19th century. I does not matter if you like a little portion of your socialism, or a lot, it simply is irrational to support marxist ideology and decry the Holocaust. It’s like drinking a half gallon of Vodka every night and complaining about how your parents were lost to Vodka. It does not compute. And for arguments sake, the purges in the Soviet Union and China were much worse than the Holocaust, and not only in numbers. The purges never got anywhere the press of the Holocaust, nor the exposure in textbooks. The crimes of communism have gone completely unpunished. Those who took part never brought to trial, because there was no trial. It is verboten to even talk about it. Again, you vote for the very people who support your enemies. It is crazy.

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    hmnm you realize Jesus was a socialist right?

    You can be a socialist AND a believer.. one is a system of government and the other is a faith in a creator.

    Not too many people who want and accept some form of socialism actually give a damn about Marx.

    I am going to guarantee even you take advantage of socialistic programs in your area.

    Are you going to give up your right to social security? If you are veteran are you going to forgo all access to VA? Have you pulled your kids out of public school and enroll them in private school where you pay the full cost?

    Do you get your health care from a private clinic where you pay for all services on arrival and in cash?

    I’ll give you a brief list of programs right out of the socialism playbook in America

    Millitary/Defence
    Highways/Roads
    Libraries
    Police
    Fired Deptarment
    Postal Services
    Student Loans
    Bridges
    Garbage collection
    Landfill
    Farm Subsidies
    Vaccination programs
    Museums
    Business subsidies
    Public Parks
    Food Stamps/welfare
    Sewage system
    Medicare
    GI Bill
    Zoos
    Lunch programs
    State beaches
    State construction
    Unemployment insurance
    Metro transit
    State Snow removal
    Public street lighting
    Amtrak
    State/national monuments
    State Scholarships
    Peace corps
    Customs/border protection
    FBI
    NHS

    I can go on and on.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Jesus was NOT a socialist. Jesus was, in everything, obedient to the Father. And if you are a Jew, the oracles of God go back to the fathers, or the Patriarchs. God’s system is a patriarchal structure, it is a top-down system, which socialists despise. In socialism, obedience is to the group, or the consensus, aka the collective. Socialism is the child who goes into group therapy asking “what would my parents think?” And when he leaves, he says “what does it mean to ‘me?'”They hold God’s system — i.e., obedience to God, obedience to parents — in contempt. That’s why a 13 year-old girl can go to a school and get an abortion, and the school doesn’t have to tell the parents. They hold God and family in contempt.

    The definition of a soviet is a diverse group of people dialoguing to consensus over a social issue in a facilitated meeting. Dialectic process was the form of government used to govern the Occupy movement. Based on the Hegelian-Dialectic. The decision making of the mob, trumps that of the the individual. Socialism is not God’s system, it is man’s. “Ye shall as gods,” equal to God. God is not having any of it. Read the book of Job for a tutorial on where you place is.

    Just as impossible is believing that you can have both, a relationship with God and socialism. The Bible says in 2 Corinthians 6:15 Kjv – “And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?” Karl Marx himself said that his goal was to dethrone God and capitalism, in that order! You ought to read Marx and Satan by Richard Wurmbrand, a man who endured 14 years of torture in prison from your “benevolent” socialists.

    I am well aware of all of the social programs in America. They are, ofcourse, keeping people who once would go to the church for help, from going to the church for help. They are, in effect, replacing the church with the state. Good luck with that one.

    And no, I don’t want anything from these treasonous traitors, with the exception of what I paid in. It’s like being a POW and asking for help from North Korea. Major David F. MacGhee was a POW in North Korea. He wrote on his cell wall: “Black is black and white is
    white. Neither torture, maltreatment nor intimidation can change a
    fact. To argue the point serves no useful purpose.”(Unless you want to be brainwashed.) Unless you want to compromise your principles to agents of the devil.

    Which brings me back to my initial thesis. You don’t do the Holocaust martyrs any service by asking their enemies for help.

    No sir, you are as if riding in life raft down a river whereupon is the sound of a waterfall ahead. God warns you, his servants warn you, but you prefer to continue down the path you are on. Just like God told Isaiah, having eyes that they might see and ears that they might hear they refuse to listen. They HEAR the Word of God, but they don’t HEED the word of God. Eternity is a long time to be in hell, my friend. Seriously worth taking the time to ponder.

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    All quotes from the bible:

    “If you will be perfect, go and sell that you have, and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven: and come and follow Me

    You shall love your neighbor as yourself”

    Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need.

    And all who believed were together and had all things in common. And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need.

    There was not a needy person among them, for as many as were owners of lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold and laid it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need.

    Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise

    In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”

    He has distributed freely; he has given to the poor; his righteousness endures forever; his horn is exalted in honor.

    For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.

    Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others.

    The wicked borrows but does not pay back, but the righteous is generous and gives;

    When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are safe; but when one stronger than he attacks him and overcomes him, he takes away his armor in which he trusted and divides his spoil.

    Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.”

    And one of my favorite quotes of the bible.. if it isn’t the most liberal socialist new age hippie mantra:

    “May he defend the cause of the poor of the people, give deliverance to the children of the needy, and crush the oppressor! “

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    As I said,,, I don’t care about Marx.. socialism existed before him and will continue for centuries after his is forgotten.

    You can be a walls street multi billionaire and still be a socialist. capitalism and socialism and not mutually exclusive.

    And you never answered my questions.. do you enjoy any of the fruits of socialism that I described??

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    You would literally be abhorred by the justice of the God of the Bible.

    Romans 3:26 says – “To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.”

    What that means is that the God of the Bible is a JUST God. The God of the Bible is the same God that devoured the sons of Aaron for offering strange fire to the Lord.

    Your moral indignation, your “good” works do not mean a thing to the Holy God who believes that stoning to death is the proper punishment for not honoring your parents.

    If you started from this minute doing nothing but helping the poor until the day you died, your “good” works might get you a lot pats on the back from your buddies, but would be as filthy rags to a Holy God.

    Romans 10:3 – “For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.”

    Romans 3:26 says – “To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.”

    Christians are justified by what the Lord Jesus Christ did on the cross. Not by anything that they do. Jesus Christ was a propitiation, in other words, God the Son took your place by shedding His blood on the cross of Calvary under the judgment of God the Father. Salvation comes by His righteousness, by what He did, not anything you can do. Jesus Christ having satisfied God’s justice, God is both JUST and the JUSTIFIER of him which believeth in Jesus.

    John 3:36 – “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

    The God of the Bible is a God of wrath to them who do not know Him.

    John 3:3 – “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

    Quit playing games with God, you are not fooling God. God does not play.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Today’s socialism is based on Karl Marx. There are no fruits of something that comes from the devil.

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    BS! only a handful of countries have a system even resembling marxism.

    You are very wrong to think that socialism comes from Karl Marx.. and it really makes you look bad to keep bringing him up.

    Socialism is ancient…its in the bible.. and even Jesus praised it!

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    Have absolutely no idea what your point is in this long winded post.

  • BannedByTheMouseAgain

    The word you desire is lose, not loose.

    I only bring this up because I noticed that you made the same error in another comment above (i.e., you used loosing—instead of losing).

    Losing:
    adjective
    1. causing or suffering loss

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    The first commandment is “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.”

    What you don’t understand when you quote Matthew 19:21 (with your NWO bible version ) “If you will be perfect, go and sell that you have, and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven: and come and follow Me.” is that God saw through the man’s self-righteousness.

    Using Bible verses out of context to support your socialist views, when you don’t know God, is something that God sees through. God sees your pretenses. You are not fooling God.

    PRETENSE, noun pretens’. [Latin proetensus, proetendo.]

    1. A holding out or offering to others something false or feigned; a presenting to others, either in words or actions, a false or hypocritical appearance, usually with a view to conceal what is real, and thus to deceive. Under pretense of giving liberty to nations, the prince conquered and enslaved them. Under pretense of patriotism, ambitious men serve their own selfish purposes.

    Let not Trojans, with a feigned pretense

    Of proffer’d peace, delude the Latian prince.

    It is sometimes preceded by on; as on pretense of revenging Caesar’s death.

  • Steven Barrett

    Lorilu, I wasn’t aware that you were appointed by Pope Francis to succeed the “American Pope,” aka “His considerably silk-endowed and robed and Emminence, Cardinal Burke.”

  • Lorilu

    In the eyes of the Church, abortion is wrong. Go peddle your sarcasm elsewhere.

  • Steven Barrett

    Well then, let me put it to you another and in a more direct fashion: When did you get your marching orders and on whose authority within the Church’s hiearchy to accuse, try and toss people who describe themselves as a defender of the legal right to abortion, even if that person is holding his/her nose while doing so. There are times when we have to accept legal realities. We also have to accept the fact that so long as the Republicans keep screwing over the poor by gutting the safety net, they’re only succeeded in increasing the likelyhood that the young gal’s spouse, partner, parents, aunts n’teachers, all her kindly ever concerned elders … and you know what one of their arguments will be? We can help you, but only up to appoint and unfortunately, you can’t expect any help from the same party in control of the purse strings that’d just as soon make sure their prospects of getting tax breaks all the merrier because they’ve done what they can to also screw over the elderly when it comes to meals on wheels and fuel assistance. See how “prolife” today’s fiscally conservative, morally obtuse and socially blockheaded can be?

  • Lorilu

    Legal is one thing, and the Church’s rules are another. The Church doesn’t issue “marching orders,” unless that’s what you think of the Ten Commandments. You go right on thinking you are a superior moral thinker. You’re entitled to your opinion, as I and everyone else in this world am entitled to theirs.

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    Jesus was still a socialist, whether you believe it or not.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Impossible. Jesus Christ is the foundation of the patriarchal structure of obedience to higher authority which socialism must destroy. You have a biblical ignorance of who the Son of God is.

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    meh you drink too much of the koolaid. Modern religion has become so damn political.

    Jesus was a socialist and his teachings were all based on eastern Asian philosophy of taking care of your neighbor.

    It doesn’t matter how many time you deny it, or give me another dozen bible quotes..

    It doesn’t matter

    Jesus was a socialist!!!

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    You are waaaay out there. When the day of judgment comes you will understand the facts.

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    So says you? I don’t believe in your fairy tales, sorry

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Neither did Madalyn Murray O’Hair.

    2 Peter 1:16 King James Version
    “For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.”

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    quoting translated verses from a book written by peasants who didn’t know where the sun went at night is hardly going to convince of anything,.

    In fact it makes you look foolish as all I see you do is quote an ancient text.

    Funny you should mention Madalyn Murray O’Hair., she was an atheist who was killed by christians!!

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Christians? No, it was her own people who worked for her.

    “My mother, brother and daughter were murdered by fellow atheists.”
    –William J. Murray, (her son) author of My Life Without God,

    What is wrong with an ancient text? You are one of those people who believe that if you mate a purebred with a mutt, then over time you will get something purer. You will progress. You are delusional.

    The Bible says in Job that the world is round. The Bible says that rivers run out to the sea and the water is brought back to the source. The Bible says that there are underwater currents in the sea. The Bible says that the seed comes from the man. The Bible says that life is in the blood. You don’t sound like someone who has actually read the Bible.

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    Oh you want to use bible as your scientific reference?? BAD IDEA! It’s full of mistakes!

    moon refered as lesser light… earth formed BEFORE the sun, mustard seed being the smallest of all seeds, value of pi, the “firmament dome over the earth, bats classified as birds,

    not to mention the HUNDREDS of contradictions:

    Jesus’ paternal grandfather: Jacob, or Heli.. depends which apostle you read

    Age of Reign of Jedoiachin… 8 or 18

    How many horsemen did David capture? 700 or 7000

    How many animals on the ark? 2 of each or 7 of each?

    Death of Judas? Hangs himself or buys a field and gets disembowled?

    ETC ETC ETC

    and finally the final word of Jesus ?

    Matthew 27: “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”.
    Luke 23: “Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit”.
    John 19: “It is finished”.

    There are actually hundreds of contradictions… it’s the main reason muslims do not use the bible for even cursory review, since it contains too many errors. Not to mention the mistranslated copies happening over the past 2 thousand years!!!!

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    You a lost sinner, telling me about the Bible. You don’t know the Bible.

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    I went to catholic school, studied the old and new testament, realized it was all garbage and became agnostic for the past 20 years.

    I won’t follow a book with so many glaring errors and claim it to be divine.

    If it’s truly the exact words of god, then your god is fallible. In fact its not even the exact words of anybody, with so many translations, and over 30 versions today, it isn’t even close to the original documents written in dead languages.

    You have no even tried to make me see the light… show me why those examples, I gave, of errors are not actually errors or contradictions???

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Creating doubt in the Bible is not new, but as old as Genesis 3:1 when the serpent said “Yeah hath God said?” The Catholic church has been in error since the days when Nero sent Christians to the lions.

    For one, a Catholic uses the Alexandrian texts and not textus receptus. So much of the Bible you have read is from the corrupted text.
    Two, the Bible was given to man in dispensations, or what the apostle Paul said was rightly dividing the word of God. There is the age of innocence, the dispensation of the law, the age of grace, and so forth. So before the law was given, you cannot expect God to hold someone accountable to the law, and so forth. There are doctrines in the Bible that must take into account dispensations. Man is sinful and fallible throughout the Bible. The Bible was written by God, if the Bible was written by men they would have covered up the sins of the Kings, (less they lose their heads) and so forth. They would have put themselves in a good light.

    Three, the Bible is hard to understand unless one is spiritually discerned, or saved. Spiritually, God’s character has no contradiction throughout the Bible. The God of the Old Testament is still a just God in the New Testament. God still condemns wicked man. The only difference is that those who call upon the Lord Jesus Christ are justified in His blood.

    Four, the accounts you gave of Jesus on the cross are all true, Jesus said all those things. There is no contradiction. It is like having 3 witnesses at a car accident and reporting from 3 different angles what they saw.

    There are many corruptions manifested in the various Bible versions, but God certainly has the ability to preserve His word and has in the textus receptus.

    To God, we are all a bunch of stray dogs digging around in the trash. When the Master comes, some dogs gnash their teeth at Him in their wicked rebellion, others run for fear, and yet some trembling and humble, receive His hand. The Master takes those who will receive Him and cleans them up, feeds them, calls them His own and motions them to enter into His eternal dwellings. But the saddest dogs of them all, are the ones who don’t believe they are astray. They believe they don’t need the Master, because they themselves can lift themselves up to become the Master. Genesis 3:5 “Ye shall be as gods..” Man thinks he can become God. Good luck with that one.

    https://youtu.be/-Q8zaMFltBc

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    Ok so you know the bible… please enlighten me..

    How did Judas die? How many of each animal was on the ark? Who was Jesus’ paternal grandfather?

    you can use any of the hundreds of versions you want.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Isaiah 55:8-9 King James Version (KJV)

    8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.

    9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    not what I asked. according to the KJV

    How did Judas die? How many of each animal was on the ark? Who was Jesus’ paternal grandfather?

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    It’s ok I’ll answer it.. right from the truest of the true, the last of the translated bibles, the word of god himself… the King James version!!!!

    Gen 6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
    Gen7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

    Matt 27:5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
    Acts 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.

    Matt 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ5:59
    Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    In Genesis, God asks for two of every sort and then comes back and asks that every c_l_e_a_n beast to be taken by sevens. There is no contradiction here, God asks for something and comes back and asks for something more.

    Luke traced Christ’s lineage through Mary, while Matthew traced it through Joseph.

    For the rulers to purchase a field with Judas’ money and have a writer attribute it to Judas in name is not a stretch, neither is it to hang and burst bowels.

    Bible criticism is just that. If you are looking for reasons to not believe the Bible, I am sure there is no limit to them.

    Eternity is too long, to be wrong.

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    -So your god made a mistake when commanding the taking of 2 animals, but corrected himself by asking for 7?

    -re-read the verses. both are referring to Joseph’s lineage.

    -” have a writer attribute it to Judas in name is not a stretch” Wait a second here.. I thought it was the infallible word of god???? Now you are saying.. it could be mistaken because it was written by man???

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Ignorance can be fixed, but stupid is to the bone. Some people so desire to live in doubt and confusion, that they will do anything to secure their own environment.

    “Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:”
    Jeremiah 5:21

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    ahh there we go.. resorting to insults..

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Did I lie somewhere?

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    no just showing your true “christian colors!!!

  • DontListenToTheStupid

    typical

  • Martin Semrok

    Have you ever read Charlotte Keckler’s story of what happened to her in a convent as a nun?Horrible things go on in there. Vatican and mafia likewise.
    http://www.theymetjesus.com/documents/charlotte_eng_part_1/charlotte_eng_part_1.htm

  • Martin Semrok

    “I took a vow of celibacy NOT chastity”. French priest quote

  • Martin Semrok

    Twice? The last election was stolen. I read George Soros paid for the fraud.

  • Martin Semrok

    Richard Wurmbrand writes that Karl Marx was a Satanist. Communism was only a tool, a trick to murder millions.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    I admire Wurmbrand greatly, and have read his book Marx and Satan.

  • Martin Semrok

    Charlotte Keckler as a nun saw many abortions. Priests inseminating nuns produces children. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5TyNPG88aU

  • Al

    “Market Socialism” only Tito didn’t absorb foreign rapists and criminals with open arms. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a60307290ddc4c2233c5f77d57028376e522fdbfc7867e48e0d9b8ace699a3e6.jpg

  • Al

    You can still get rich OUT of the black market is the difference. The people who made big money in the Soviet Union were either criminals, oligarchs or theft merchants.