Accuracy in Media

Since we published our article, “Catholic Church Captured by ‘Progressive Forces,’” it is starting to dawn on many in and out of the media that Pope Francis has come down on the side of the “progressive,” and even Marxist, forces in the world today.

Writing at the Blaze.com and commenting on the pope’s friendly meeting with Cuban dictator Raul Castro, Catholic writer Stephen Herreid of the Intercollegiate Review called the pope’s dealings with Castro and other Marxists “a new Catholic scandal” as significant and terrifying as the presence of pedophiles in the church. He wonders how conservative Catholics can continue to pay respect to a pope “intent on making friends with the enemies of religious liberty.”

Francis had a one-hour meeting with Raul Castro on May 10. The day before, Castro had greeted Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow. Francis will visit Cuba in September prior to his tour of the United States.

The Associated Press reported that Castro commented, after meeting with the pope, that the pontiff “is a Jesuit, and I, in some way, am too.” Castro added, “I always studied at Jesuit schools.” He also promised, “When the pope goes to Cuba in September, I promise to go to all his Masses, and with satisfaction.”

The evidence is getting too big for the major media to ignore: the pope has made common cause with the forces of international Marxism, which are associated with atheism, the suppression of traditional Christianity and the persecution and murder of Christians.

Conservative Catholics and many others are terrified of what is to come. Some fear that the Roman Catholic Church has joined the campaign for a global socialist state that could turn into an anti-Christian tyranny.

Dr. Timothy Ball, author of The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science, told me during a recent interview, “I think the Catholic Church is regretting making him the pope. They did it because the previous pope was starting to deal with the problems of pedophilia and corruption in the money in the church. So the powerful Cardinals pushed him [Benedict] aside. It wasn’t a health matter at all. He just realized he couldn’t beat them…He [Francis] is bringing in these socialist ideas. He’s already expressed some of them—about inequities of wealth, redistributing the wealth, which are themes you’ve heard from Obama.”

Benedict had also been a strong opponent of Liberation Theology.

As Herreid put it in his Blaze column, “In a matter of months, Pope Francis has announced a desire to ‘quickly’ beatify a deceased liberation theologist bishop, reconciled with a Sandinista activist priest who once called Ronald Reagan a ‘butcher’ and an ‘international outlaw,’ and even invited the founder of the liberation theology movement, Rev. Gustavo Gutierrez, to speak on the need for a ‘poor Church for the Poor’ at an official Vatican event this week.”

In fact, this is the latest example of Francis welcoming advocates of Liberation Theology—a doctrine manufactured by the old KGB to dupe Christians into supporting Marxism—directly into the Vatican.

Francis received Gutierrez, considered the father of Liberation Theology, in September 2013, but in a private audience without photos. Then, on November 22, 2014, at the end of an audience granted to the participants of the National Missionary Congress of Italy, Francis warmly greeted him personally. Gutierrez, a Peruvian theologian and Dominican priest, is being welcomed as an official guest at the Vatican to participate in this week’s Caritas Internationalis General Assembly, whose theme is, “One Human Family, Caring for Creation.”

Caritas is a global confederation of 164 Catholic organizations. Its U.S. affiliates are Catholic Charities and Catholic Relief Services.

Herreid comments, “Neither Pope St. John Paul II nor his trusted friend and successor Benedict XVI were taken in by liberation theology. John Paul fought Communism throughout his pontificate, and Benedict was equally forceful against liberation theology’s interpretation of the traditional ‘preferential option for the poor’ as a preferential option for violent state-mandated wealth-redistribution.”

The Francis-Marxist alliance seems to confirm the predictions of the late Vatican insider Malachi Martin, who wrote penetrating books about the Catholic Church entitled The Jesuits and The Keys of This Blood. He believed that Mikhail Gorbachev, who presided over the “restructuring” of the old Soviet Union, never gave up on Marxism-Leninism but adopted the viewpoint of the Italian communist Antonio Gramsci that a worldwide communist state could only be achieved gradually. It was to be a “revolution by infiltration.” He said, “Liberation Theology was a perfectly faithful exercise of Gramsci’s principles.”

Martin wrote that “The most powerful religious orders of the Roman Church—Jesuits, Dominicans, Franciscans, Maryknollers—all committed themselves to Liberation Theology.”

In addition to Gutierrez, one of the speakers at this week’s Vatican conference is Jeffrey Sachs of the U.N.’s Millennium Project, an advocate of a global tax that could impose a cost of $845 billion from the U.S. alone. Sachs is speaking at a panel discussion on “Growing inequalities: a challenge for the one human family.”

Sachs previously appeared at a Vatican conference on “Sustainable Humanity, Sustainable Nature: Our Responsibility,” which was held from May 2 – 6, 2014.  It was held under the authority of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences and the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences.

A joint statement published after the close of that Vatican conference called for Sustainable Development Goals “to guide planetary-scale actions after 2015.”

It said, “To achieve these goals will require global cooperation, technological innovations that are within reach, and supportive economic and social policies at the national and regional levels, such as the taxation and regulation of environmental abuses, limits to the enormous power of transnational corporations and a fair redistribution of wealth. It has become abundantly clear that Humanity’s relationship with Nature needs to be undertaken by cooperative, collective action at all levels—local, regional, and global.”

This week’s Caritas conference includes consideration of a “strategic framework” for the years 2015 to 2019 that quoted Francis as calling on every Christian “to be an instrument of God for the liberation and promotion of the poor…”

In building “a civilization of love,” the document urges the “transforming [of] unjust systems and structures” and desires an outcome in which “Justice is attained with respect to climate change and the use of natural resources…”

Christiana Figueres, the Executive Secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, explained what all of this means in simple language. “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model, for the first time in human history,” she said. “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the industrial revolution. That will not happen overnight and it will not happen at a single conference on climate change…It just does not occur like that. It is a process, because of the depth of the transformation.”

The pope’s left-wing supporters at the Catholic Climate Covenant are ecstatic over his upcoming encyclical on ecology and climate change and believe it can be the catalyst for this deliberate transformation. Dan Misleh of the Catholic Climate Covenant tells his supporters that his group is creating what he calls “an educational, inspirational video” on how to stop global warming and developing new programs to help Catholics “reduce their carbon footprint.”

Members of his climate coalition include:

  • United States Conference of Catholic Bishops: Department of Justice, Peace and Human Development
  • United States Conference of Catholic Bishops: Migration and Refugee Services
  • Catholic Charities USA
  • Catholic Relief Services
  • Catholic Health Association of the United States
  • Columban Center for Advocacy and Outreach
  • Conference of Major Superiors of Men
  • Carmelite NGO
  • Catholic Rural Life
  • Franciscan Action Network
  • National Council of Catholic Women
  • Leadership Conference of Women Religious
  • Association of Catholic Colleges and Universities
  • National Federation for Catholic Youth Ministry
  • Sisters of Mercy of the Americas



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Comments

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Well, duh. The Catholic church is the head of the ecumenical movement. The goal has always been to bring the churches back under Rome. The ecumenical movement uses dialectic process to bring all to compromise. Why is it, Cliff, that you can see that the U.S. government is evil, but refuse to believe the Catholic church could ever be evil?

  • jb1111

    I do NOT stand with the Pope or the Church as regards their own form of Communism and Socialism.
    They are so very Wrong on Social Liberation Theology.

  • David W

    Ironic to see so uninformed an article on a page that claims to champion “accuracy’ in media.

  • missieb2000

    While I am a practicing Catholic, I do not support the ideas and social beliefs of the current Pope. I can only hope that the Church finds a remedy soon.

  • Bob

    This is the same ‘church’ that helped Nazis escape to South America. The
    same ‘church’ that took decades to admit the earth rotated around the sun.

    The same ‘church’ that is still running around performing exorcism.

    The same ‘church’ that protects it’s pedophiles.

    You have to be brain dead to buy into their nonsense.

  • Steven Barrett

    Aren’t all Catholics supposed to be more loyal to their Church, the only institution founded by God, instead of any human invented ideology, party, or even country? After all, in God’s eyes, there’s no such thing as “American Catholic,” or a “conservative/moderate/liberal catholic.” Just Catholics or non-catholics. Just remember one thing: God loves us all, every one of us and He didn’t send his only Son to die on behalf of just pro-American or conservative Catholics, or non catholics. Jesus died for us all. And He loves and forgives all, including more than a few error-prone conservative writers who just happen to be Catholic or interested in the Catholic Church. Ain’t that something!

  • cmjapnea

    spot on, Bob,spot on!

  • John Cunningham

    What did you expect. He is from Argentina. The most Marxist Country this side of the Atlantic. Regimes change but the underlying theme is and always will be Totalitarianism.

  • Forgotyourname

    Jesus hates lazy people. Yes if you do not work you do not eat. The unemployed are unemployed because they are lazy. If you do not have medical insurance it is because you do not plan your future and are lazy. Those with billions and millions of dollars have it because they work hard. If I have 20 or more employee I should not pay taxes. Taxes are for my employees. Since I gave them jobs they should be thankful. If they cannot pay insurance and food it is their problem, not mine, because I am the person who taking all the risk with my money or my grandfather’s money.

  • stlouisix

    Commie Raul Castro says he might become CATHOLIC because the Pope is so ‘impressive’?!
    http://therightscoop.com/commie-raul-castro-says-he-might-become-catholic-because-the-pope-is-so-impressive/

    Commies of a feather stick together. Can you say “Liberation Theology” that Bergoglio was weaned on? You really have to wonder about a Catholic who has on his resume that the antichrist in the WH is one of his biggest fans!

    This should come as no surprise as Catholics in more than name only perfectly understand, i.e., the church that Castro may be rejoining is no longer recognizable as Catholic due to dissenters from invariant Catholic moral teaching being given prominence of place at the table to include the manifest heretic Cardinal Kaspar who is Bergoglio’s champion!

    The REAL Catholic Church is in the modern catacombs surviving on islands of orthodoxy in a raging sea of heterodoxy! That is the Church that the gates of hell shall not prevail against!

    ————————————

    Manifest Heretic Kasper, Bergoglio’s champion, unconscionably says don’t rely on Jesus’ Words!

    I strongly urge that Catholics in more than name only watch the video below to get a wakeup call as to heretical apostates at the highest level of the Church masquerading as Catholic gutting Sacred Scripture and the Great Tradition of the Church leaving us NOTHING to fight a devil that they’re allied with!

    CFN Media 8: Kasper Says Don’t Rely on Jesus’ Words
    http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/d6f04170ac32404105c2e2f0db2895d3-374.html

    Dead Cat Bounce
    Written by Patrick Archbold
    http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1710-dead-cat-bounce

    As Opposition to the Phony Synod Rises, Francis Says “Gossip” Against It Must Cease
    http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/52d358adcb3fe9b3fa1de05b606cc794-359.html

    Global Catastrophe Rising: So now what do we do?
    Written by Hilary White
    http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1605-global-catastrophe-rising-so-what-do-we-do-now

    Validating the Great Apostasy: The Francis Effect
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X275oBsuwvc&feature=youtu.be&list=PLZxhyk4vzzQ6EhWiBPIOGf3g72BEro5dh

    The Coming Burke-Bergoglio Conflict
    http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/6f9c997e3be9caac014d6d8fe60dcf89-339.html

    Cardinal Burke Offers Traditional Mass in Rome, Defends Traditional Teaching on Marriage
    http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1512-cardinal-burke-offers-traditional-mass-in-rome-defends-traditional-teaching-on-marriage

    A Tale of Two Popes: Which One Shall We Believe?
    Written by Michael Matt | Editor
    http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1502-a-tale-of-two-popes-which-one-shall-we-believe

    Special Report: The Martini Pope
    26/12/13 12:47
    http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/065837621bedf51d45b91a5e75699ef5-174.html

    The disaster of the Bergoglio papacy is examined
    Wednesday, November 26, 2014
    THE REMNANT FORUM: A Church in Crisis
    Written by Michael Matt | Editor
    http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/component/k2/item/1310-the-remnant-forum-civil-war-a-church-in-crisis

    Cardinal Burke banished, Bishop Athanasius Schneider encourages resistance, journalists speak of crisis in the Church. Michael Matt and Christopher Ferrara discuss growing schism under the disastrous pontificate of Pope Francis.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIdMgYVPqDs

    Wednesday, December 10, 2014
    THE REMNANT FORUM: The Pope’s Enemies List
    Written by Michael Matt | Editor
    http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/component/k2/item/1339-the-remnant-forum-civil-war-a-church-in-crisis

    Mike & Chris discuss the Pope’s routine criticisms of faithful Catholics while atheists and Catholic bashers get the papal “Get Out Of Jail, Free” card. Plus, what explains the papal silence on the slaughter of Christians in the Mideast?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-8wgpmQVV4&feature=player_detailpage

    Someone had better bone up on on Aquinas 101 who had this to say about heretics!

    SUMMA THEOLOGICA: Heresy (Secunda Secundae Partis, Q. 11)

    Is heresy a kind of unbelief? The matter about which it is. Should heretics be tolerated? Should converts be received?

    http://www.newadvent.org/summa/3011.htm

    On the contrary, Falsehood is contrary to truth. Now a heretic is one who devises or follows false or new opinions. Therefore heresy is opposed to the truth, on which faith is founded; and consequently it is a species of
    unbelief.

    How is Bergoglio NOT doing what Aquinas is talking about here? Bergoglio and his minions are too clever to outright renounce the INVARIANT Teaching Magisterium of the Church on faith and morals so they resort to ignoring it which is a de facto renouncing of dogma that is the same game that Obama plays with the Constitution on a regular basis with the results shown in the daily news.

    It should be very clear by now to Catholics still capable of rational thought that the status quo of the Vatican II Church unrecognizable as Catholic has done more to destroy the faith than anything that I can recall in my lifetime or in my readings of the history of the Church, again, all of which is documented in detail on my website.

    It is this mindset that has set the table for arrogant Bergoglio’s shameless heresy that trashes the “laws of nature, and of nature’s God”, which, as the foundation of the invariant moral teaching of the Church, must be opposed by every fiber of the being of Catholics in more than name only for the survival of a Church recognizable as Catholic to their children and grandchildren in the same manner that Americans in more than name only must oppose Obama’s willful attempt to destroy what’s left of a free America by trashing the Constitution on a daily basis! There is NO difference whatsoever.

    It is no accident that the diabolic Obamunists love Bergoglio by their own public admission which is NOT something that is praiseworthy on the resume of a Catholic!

    This latest news reported by a Catholic activist friend of mine is a huge red flag.

    Cardinal Marx: Doctrine can develop, change
    http://ncronline.org/news/vatican/cardinal-marx-doctrine-can-develop-change

    Cardinal Marx: Doctrine can develop, change which is a BLASPHEMOUS BALD-FACED LIE straight from the bowels of hell that are the rants of heretical apostates who need to be called out for who they are and what they represent which is nothing less than the attempt to destroy orthodox Catholicism on an altar to secular humanism by trashing the “laws of nature, and of nature’s God”

    Dogma and the Church

    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05089a.htm

    (2) The dogmas of the Church are immutable. Modernists hold that religious dogmas, as such, have no intellectual meaning, that we are not bound to believe them mentally, that they may be all false, that it is sufficient if we use them a guides to action; and accordingly they teach that dogmas are not immutable, that they should be changed when the spirit of the age is opposed to them, when they lose their value as rules for a liberal religious life. But in the Catholic doctrine that Divine revelation is addressed to the human mind and expresses real objective truth, dogmas are immutable Divine truths. It is an immutable truth for all time that Augustus was Emperor of Rome and George Washington first President of the United States. So according to Catholic belief, these are and will be for all time immutable truths— that there are three Persons in God, that Christ died for us, that He arose from the dead, that He founded the Church, that He instituted the sacraments. We may distinguish between the truths themselves and the language in which they are expressed. The full meaning of certain revealed truths has been only gradually brought out; the truths will always remain. Language may change or may receive a new meaning; but we can always learn what meaning was attached to particular words in the past.

    (3) We are bound to believe revealed truths irrespective of their definition by the Church, if we are satisfied that God has revealed them. When they are proposed or defined by the Church, and thus become dogmas, we are bound to believe them in order to maintain the bond of faith. (See HERESY).

    (4) Finally, Catholics do not admit that, as is sometimes alleged, dogmas are the arbitrary creations of ecclesiastical authority, that they are multiplied at will, that they are devices for keeping the ignorant in subjection, that they are obstacles to conversions. Some of these are points of controversy which cannot be settled without reference to more fundamental questions. Dogmatic definitions would be arbitrary if there were no Divinely instituted infallible teaching office in the Church; but if, as Catholics maintain, God has established in His Church an infallible office, dogmatic definitions cannot be considered arbitrary. The same Divine Providence which preserves the Church from error will preserve her from inordinate multiplication of dogmas. She cannot define arbitrarily. We need only observe the life of the Church or of the Roman pontiffs to see that dogmas are not multiplied inordinately. And as dogmatic definitions are but the authentic interpretation and declaration of the meaning of Divine revelation, they cannot be considered devices for keeping the ignorant in subjection, or reasonable obstacles to conversions, on the contrary, the authoritative definition of truth and condemnation of error, are powerful arguments leading to the Church those who seek the truth earnestly.

  • Ted

    Kincaid’s anti-Catholicism comes through again!

    But, be that as it may … Jesus was probably one of the first Hippies … and the definition of “Catholic” has variously been …

    Universal
    Diverse
    Wide
    Broad-based
    Eclectic
    Liberal
    Latitudinarian
    All-embracing
    All-encompassing
    All-inclusive

    So, at its essence, and in terms of its philosophical tenets, the Catholic religion has ALWAYS been ‘liberal’ and ‘social’ and ‘all-inclusive’ in its intent and purpose … even if its operational leadership has not been. So, if some rightwingnuts want to use their current definition of ‘socialism’ or ‘socialistic’ to criticize the religion and its current leader … so be it. Catholicism is a participatory communal doctrine and, as such, it IS ‘socialistic’ by its very nature. Catholics who don’t understand or accept that should probably consider adopting a different religion.

  • jaimelmanzano

    As a lapsed Catholic, I nevertheless admire Pope Francis’ aspirations. I think he is, like Peter, a.fisherman of souls. I hope he keeps guard less he be distracted listening to the worldly voices of Caesars, and fail to hear that of his Prophet who counseled his followers to listen to their individual[ consciences and render their loyalty to the inner values inherent in their beliefs.

  • Mike Spaniola

    Dr. Timothy Ball, author of The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science, may know about that issue, but I take exception to his comment: “I think the Catholic Church is
    regretting making him the pope. They did it because the previous pope
    was starting to deal with the problems of pedophilia and corruption in
    the money in the church …”

    There was NO pedophilia scandal; the group involved were young boys, not infants or toddlers, and most victims were in their teen-age years, and the perpetrators were nearly all homosexual men, some of whom have a real hankering for barely pubescent males. (In Hollywood, powerful gay men there call these boys “twinks”.)

    The “corruption in
    the money in the church …” is the same as it is in most Western countries today. Alleged Vatican Bank improprieties were caused by seeds Marxists planted elsewhere as well, and I know destroying money in general and the U.S. dollar in particular were cited openly in 1922 at a worldwide meeting of Communists.

    Infiltrating seminaries, especially using homosexuality to undermine the priesthood, was also a Marxist goal though more recent, being traced to the early ’60s. I believe Herbert Marcuse stated it, among other subversive goals. (He also is said to have originated the prosaic populist expressions: “Make love not war,” and, “If it doesn’t kill you, it makes you stronger.”) David Horowitz, as a covert Marxist operative back in days, knew Marcuse well, and some of Horowitz’s harshest criticism is reserved for Marcuse, as I recall, both as a person and an ideologue.

    http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/marcuse/

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Socialism is governed by dialectic process, or a soviet council form of government. Dialectic process is a manifestation of the hegelian-dialectic, applied to group decision making – where principles are abandoned by each participant in order to reach agreement, or compromise. It is holistic in nature, i.e. the group as a whole, trumps the rights of the individual. It is a surrender of principles through dialogue for the sake of relationship, or getting along. (Basically, the dynamics of the group talking everyone out of their property, freedom etc.) Catholicism is still a top down system, with the Pope talking about using dialogue. Cliff is too Catholic, to be an anti-Catholic.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Our taxes go toward the funding of a world socialist government. Rich, middle, or poor, no one is going to get out of where we are headed. Jesus is the only answer my friend. In the KJV Bible, Jesus clearly calls out things that he hates, but lazy people is not one of them. However, sloth does reap what it sows in Proverbs. You might want to be careful about how you quote the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    What is your barometer?

  • Forgotyourname

    You do not get it. You cherry pick what you want to believe. Personally I like the idea of socialism. If you are an American you profited somehow from socialism. Free health care. Cheap housing. Cheap food. Good Roads. A function passenger train that does not kill it’s riders. You have not seen what is on the horizon concerning socialistic communities that care about eachother. 🙂 Get used to it..

  • Forgotyourname

    I hope you remedy your hatefulness towards people.

  • Forgotyourname

    When you die one requirement is you have to know scripture. You will be quizzed by Saint Peter or whoever on the KJV verses. You better get them right study hard.

  • simplynotred

    Excuse me, but your ignorance is well pronounce, and it does not define conceptual, or doctrinal difference Very Well At All. You are just a bigot who has no wisdom and needs some infusion of intelligence quickly.

  • simplynotred

    Socialism and Catholicism are antithetical. The Pope if he pursue Socialism – will no longer be pope of the Catholic Faith, but of a New Religion Called Social Justice for the worship of the poor.

  • simplynotred

    You need to review what he is doing not what you feel he is doing. He is not going after souls, but rather the poor, and for the structures of socialism which are in opposition to the Catholic Faith. Your lapse has cause you to encounter much harm to your own Catholic Faith.

  • simplynotred

    This is a NICE bit of writing of how it should be, but that is not what is.

  • simplynotred

    Go take a hike you miserable person.

  • simplynotred

    Leopard spots.

  • simplynotred

    Dialectic process is not the methodology used for conversion of sinners, it has always been missions. Dialectic methods are merely an ambiguous game of charades like the outcome of VII.

  • simplynotred

    This is excellent research. Thank you.

  • simplynotred

    This is good and savvy!

  • Forgotyourname

    Excuse me but you and I have different ideas on what God wants from humans. You believe in a cult. With limited salvation.

  • Forgotyourname

    You are a pompous know it all.

  • Forgotyourname

    Let me add ass.

  • David W

    Reading the actual transcripts and documents of what the Pope said/wrote, as well as that of his predecessors. There’s no shift to the left here.

  • Forgotyourname

    Nice to have you approval ass

  • Forgotyourname

    Tell ohh wise ass where do you get any idea Jesus hates socialism?

  • Forgotyourname

    So you are going to fire this Pope? hahah

  • Forgotyourname

    Thank you David. First intelligent Christlike response here. Sorry if I sounded harsh.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    The true church would not use dialectic process, because it is the process used in the garden. The dialogue between the serpent and Eve, persuaded Eve to abandon her authority. Genesis 3:1-6.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Don’t forget the judgment seat of Christ.

  • simplynotred

    How do you know anything about me. It’s obvious that you know nothing. That will be proven by what you say, and you haven’t said much at all. You believe in a cult, because you hate cults, therefore you have become one.

    Salvation is neither mine nor yours to approve of, nor can any man control what God decides, But he has already in the person of his Son told us what he wants of humans, and that is to be like him, as he set the example.

    Are you saying that you are more like him than I? How do you know that. You see its your knowledge that will determine what God is, and what God isn’t according to your Faith. So speak and demonstrate the Truths about God that you know. Or show us otherwise your lack.

  • Forgotyourname

    Are you Jesus? You have his ear? You and the likes of those like you are full of yourself.

  • Forgotyourname

    You are so full of shit. Who the hell do you think you are Jesus. You are pathetic.

  • Ex Nihilo

    I don’t claim to understand everything Pope Francis does. Frankly as a practicing Catholic it’s not really my business how he handles his apostolate. It is my business to pray for him.
    However I will not answer for his sins; only my own. Therefore as this is Christ’s church is would behoove the faithful to keep their eye’s on the cross… and to be ready. We are at war with the world, the flesh and the devil… there will be casualties.

  • David W

    No worries. 🙂 God Bless.

  • simplynotred

    Well that tells me everything I need to know. Have a nice one! If you can?

  • AugustineThomas

    Protestant sects lead to Hell, not Heaven. Christ only founded one Church and it’s called the Catholic Church, even if there are sinners in it as he warned there would be.

  • AugustineThomas

    You’re a pathetic bigot.
    The Church developed all modern science and founded the institutions that led to the reexamining of the ideas in the West that have to do with geocentrism and heliocentrism.
    Many respected members of the Jewish faith have acknowledged that the Church, more than any other institution, helped protect Jews from the Nazis.
    Exorcisms work when they’re done properly and there’s much proof of that. Many people have been suffering from unknown maladies and went on to lead happy lives after proper exorcisms carried out by faithful priests.
    The Church didn’t protect pedophiles. There are more than a billion members of the Church and certain bishops and priests did make horrible decisions. However Americans like yourself are far more likely to sexually abuse children than members of the clergy and there are cover ups in every institution.
    Human beings are fallen and they’re all capable of bad decisions and outright evil.
    Only a dumb bigot refuses to admit that.

  • AugustineThomas

    The Catholic Church hasn’t murdered sixty million unborn babies like the United States.
    The Church has done more charity than any group in history. The United States, like all great powers, only leads the world in death and destruction.

  • AugustineThomas

    The Church has survived bad popes in the past and it will survive this one.

  • practicing Catholic

    Lapsed Catholics = fans of this pope…says everything. Or maybe you just like him for racist reasons, that is, he is hispanic like yourself senor Jaime L. Manzano.

  • Forgotyourname

    You are an expert on this subject? Calling yourself Augustine Thomas does not alone make a judge of millenniums of Papacy to include this Pope. 🙂

  • Michael Dowd

    I am afraid Pope Francis is being guided by the hand of the devil. He needs to return to his job of proclaiming Christ and Eternal Life. Everything Pope Francis has been advocating can only accomplished by totalitarian control of population and the economy. It will quickly lead to hell on earth with more abortions, euthanasia and massive killing of dissidents. Let us pray that he will change his dreadful vision or God will change it for him.

  • susan

    Wow…you are a true bile-filled bag of hate calling others hateful. Classic projection/transference.

    “simplynotred” made clear, excellent, accurate points (ignore him at the peril of your soul), and you respond with potty-mouth expletives….class act!

  • Forgotyourname

    Wow you are also a know it all. You somehow feel you can judge everyone not thinking like you. I am not hate filled I do not lie your brand of human being calling themselves Christian. You lady are a dirt bag calling themselves followers of Christ. Your Jesus must be hate filled. . Keep your religion to yourself. Because it is people like you wanting more war.

  • Richard Hellstrom
  • Steven Barrett

    Pray tell us what that “remedy” you hope the Church will find concerning the “current Pope.” Since you described yourself as a “practicing Catholic,” I’m surprised you’d go so far as to say you “do not support” as opposed to giving a mere acknowledgement of having a sense of respectful disagreement. Withdrawing support is pretty close to nailing a sheet of beefs on a door. Then again, maybe you’d be happier in a church where the authorities cherry pick their scriptures to bolster their opinions. Best be careful about taking that route. There are far too many conservative megachurches or denominations led by strongwilled Protestant clerics who wield their power in ways that most of their sheeple have come to regret granting them (along with their substantive six-figure salaries and extragagant housing allowances, and so forth, not to mention actual disciplinary power most bishops have never been able to use within our Church. You’ve really got to make yourself a royal public pain your local bishop’s rear before you find yourself on the outside. Not so within non-Catholic churches. Be careful for what you’re asking for.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    I agree that a government that will murder innocent life, is a government capable of sending all of us to the gulags. However, legalized abortion is a manifestation of marxist infiltration, not the original founding of the country. Most communists would agree with your view that America is the leader in “death and destruction.” Yet, communism slaughtered 500 million people — if you include abortions in China — in the 20th century. That is more bloodshed than all of the centuries combined. Your marxist college professor won’t tell you the truth about Marx. V.I. Lenin legalized abortion after the 1917 revolution, where do you think our nation got the notion from?

    The Catholic church persecuted anabaptists for centuries because they believed in water baptism. The Bill of Rights came about from Christian sentiment weary of the state church. Well, more to the point, it came from the will of God.

    Good works won’t get you to heaven.

    Romans 3:26 KJV
    “To declare, I say, at this time HIS righteousness: that he might be JUST, and the JUSTIFIER of him which believeth in Jesus.”

    Romans 10:3 KJV
    “For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their OWN righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto THE righteousness of God.”

    The Lord Jesus Christ took your place on the cross of Calvary shedding His blood under the full wrath and judgment of God almighty the father for your sins. It’s not what YOU do, it is what HE has already done for you by taking your place and making an atonement for your sins, that you might be reconciled to God. The Bible says “Ye Must Be Born again.” Being born again is turning from your sin (repentance) and putting your faith in the death, burial, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • missieb2000

    I’m asking that first, you put away your thesaurus, prithee. Second, I would suggest you not equate my level of faith or I will be forced to start referencing Bible verses. I have every right to be concerned with Pope Francis’ political leanings, I am Catholic, not a serf. While the other denominations you extol (at great length) may be fine for others, I am very happy with my God and my church. Just not my Pope.

  • missieb2000

    I hope you stop typing soon.

  • Forgotyourname

    People like you think because you read a bible making you judge over other people. People like you misssie are full of yourself. Maybe you can practice a little bit of what you read.

  • Steven Barrett

    Okay, Missieb2000 … but what’s your ideal “remedy?” Face facts, regardless of what you or I think of the Pope’s political views, unless anybody can prove he violated his authority as Pope . . . he’s in till he dies or retires like Benedict.

  • Papa Bear

    Everyone is just now figuring this out? The Catholic Church has always been socialism in its idealogy and concept. Get a clue folks, the RCC has never been a family of the true Church.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    That is heresy. Show me the apostolic succession over the years that proves that the Catholic church is the only church.

  • missieb2000

    People like who? You spent all that time judging me for judging??? A mackeral has more capacity for logic and reason than whatever that babbling blather you just regurgitated contains.

  • missieb2000

    Where did you hear that Catholic means sycophant? Pray tell what religion requires 100% belief in it’s leaders? I am Catholic, not a democrat.

  • missieb2000

    I hope you find a better use for your pre snap judgements. Maybe their is an opening on msnbc.

  • Tom

    Too many polysyllabic words for you? Instead of him putting down his thesaurus, you may want to pick one up.

  • missieb2000

    Nice. But while you have mastered the multi syllabic words, you use them as a pretense, a smoke screen, a defection if you will. You have yammered on about nothing. Question asked and answered. But since it wasn’t what you were wanting to hear, you blather on as though the question is still unanswered. Kudos on the big words btw

  • Tom

    Thank you.

  • AugustineThomas

    You can easily look up the line of popes from St. Peter to Pope Francis.

  • AugustineThomas

    I think you’re making an idol of the Constitution, but otherwise I agree with you in many respects.
    The Church built the societies that created secularism and gave us the idea of religious freedom. The Founding Fathers weren’t innovative in any way, they simply had a giant country to test the new ideas of Europe in.
    Anyway, all Protestants picked and choose their beliefs from those of the One True Church, so the Church can take credit for the good works of her estranged daughters.
    Protestants, despite their heresy, have brought a lot of good to the world because they have held on to belief in Christ.
    Of course God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, is our only master, which is why we should all be members of the only Church he founded. The Church would be much stronger if the many wonderful Protestants would embrace God’s command for unity and rejoin the Church. We would be much stronger together than we are divided.
    God bless you brother!

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Please present the line of apostolic succession that proves that the Roman Catholic church is the “one true church.”

  • AugustineThomas
  • Steven Barrett

    C’mon … where’s the “remedy”? Curious minds want to know. I’d like to know which socialism you’re really opposed to. Is it the good old fashioned and quite clunky top down model favored by the same kind of professors and economic experts who’d find artistic merit in all those rusting pieces of junk depicting their heroes, Marx, Lenin and even Stalin? Or is it the kind where the vast majority of Americans are left paying for more tax breaks accorded to the one-percenter crowd by an ever pliant Republican dominated Congress? Take your pick. But they both stink.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    So Jesus made Peter the first pope to be His representative, and each
    succeeding pope is Christ’s “vicar”, like a vice president, in charge
    of the church on earth?

  • missieb2000

    you must be so tired running all those different ids

  • Forgotyourname

    Do you ever get tired of your boring repetition. Your husband must feel tortured.

  • missieb2000

    “….And try to isolate the subject. Make it personal. If you cannot argue the subject on its merits, argue on a personal level.” Saul Ailynsky

  • The Gospels do not support robbing people, “give” means just that – give. Not “take by the threat of violence”. The false economics of Liberation Theology (the Labour Theory of Value and the false “exploitation” theory) are a cover for plundering and tyranny – they are nothing to do with the message of Jesus Christ. Nor is “collective salvation” – Christianity is not about making a perfect world for the collective, it is about personal (individual) survival after the death of the body. If you, like the Castro brothers, believe that physical death (this world) is the end of the individual (that there is no individual soul – or that it dies with the body) then do not pretend to be a Christian.

  • It is not “hatefulness” to oppose the Marxism of the Castro brothers – Marxism being a political movement that has murdered more than 100 million people over the last century, see the “Black Book of Communism” as well as the works of Robert Conquest (on the Soviet Union), Frank Dikotter (on Mao’s China) and many others.
    The basis of Liberation “Theology” is the lies of Marxism – the Labour Theory of Value and the false “Exploitation” theory. The Christian virtue of charity (benevolence) is about giving – not taking with threat of violence. Justice is to each their own – not “redistribution” by violence. Justice (to each their own) and mercy (compassion for the less fortunate) are different virtues – but neither involves robbery and tyranny (which is the basic principle of the Castro brothers and Liberation “Theology”).
    Nor is Christianity about creating a perfect world for the collective (“Collective Salvation”), the message of Jesus Christ is about individual survival after the death of the body. If you do believe in the existence of the individual soul (the person) or believe that it dies with the body – then do not pretend to be a Christian. This is not about “hating” anyone – it is about being honest about your beliefs.

  • God will judge Francis – in His own time (not ours). For example only God knows if Francis is just guilty of innocent error (believing in false economic doctrines – but having good intentions) or something more serious. It is not for mortal human beings to judge the soul of Francis – or anyone else.

  • Karl Marx was not God. The false Labour Theory of Value and the false “exploitation” theory that comes from it, have nothing to with the message of Jesus Christ. “Give” means just that – give. It does not mean “take by the threat of violence” as in “redistribution”. What part of “my Kingdom of not of this world” do you not understand? Christianity is not about “Collective Salvation”, creating a perfect world for the collective, it is about individual survival after the death of the body. Those who believe that there is no such thing as the soul (or that it dies with the body) are not Christians.

  • Jesus says “give” not “take by violence”. Jesus made it clear that his Kingdom is not of this world – socialism promises a perfect world here on Earth. Jesus was concerned with individual souls – which he taught could live for ever after the death of the body. Socialism (especially the Marxism of the Castro brother) mocks all of this and is concerned with the collective.

  • The Roman Catholic Church (and I am not a Roman Catholic) saved more Jewish lives than any other organisation in Europe. Pope Pius (“Hitler’s Pope” according to KGB disinformation and agitprop) personally hid Jews in the Vatican (whose lives would have been lost had he shot his mouth off making wild speeches – thus giving the National Socialists the excuse they needed to search Churches an so on) and ordered the hiding of thousands of Jews on Church property all over Italy.
    As for science – many great scientists were practicing Roman Catholic priests. And resistance to new ideas in astronomy was no greater from the Roman Catholic Church than it was from Protestant Churches. The overthrow of Aristotelian physics was an incredibly difficult for everyone in the 16th century – not because Aristotle was a Christian (he was around centuries before Jesus), but because his view of the physical universe had dominated everything for so many centuries.
    By the way – when Aristotle’s ideas were reintroduced into Europe after the Dark Ages of barbarian (Germanic) invasions many Roman Catholic theologians warned against making the ideas of any mortal man a centre piece of belief. Had they been listened to (had the Church not become obsessed with Aristotle’s ideas about the physical world) it would have been better. Even before the fall of the Roman Empire Augustine had warned against becoming obsessed with this or that view of the physical world – pushed by secular thinkers.

  • The Castro brothers are not “Christlike” – the false economic theories of Marxism (which lead to the “exploitation” theory) and the murder of tens of millions of people by the Marxists, have nothing to with the message of Jesus Christ.
    As for Pope Francis – if the follies of statism in Argentina, from Peron onwards, have not led him to question collectivism (to consider the possibility that policies supposedly for the benefit of “the poor” actually increase poverty) then all one can do is to pray that God opens his eyes and frees him from his errors.

  • The share of Federal revenue from “the rich” has never been higher (not lower – higher). The majority of Federal revenue comes from “the rich” and “big business”. The way of the socialist is the way of the LIAR, as you show very well Mr Barrett – with you Class War lies “one-percenter crowd” who the “vast majority of Americans” do NOT “pay for”.

  • Forgotyourname

    Socialism is not Communism, Marxism or whatever. Socialism does not promise happiness, socialism in not perfect it only tries to be “Just” and fair. For instance American Free market 2015 economic system has built up an elite oligarchy. We see today the middle class is disappearing. In summation Socialism is to Marxism and Communism like Zionism is to Judaism. To make it plain and simple. Zionism is to Judaism like Marxism is to Christianity.

  • AugustineThomas

    Vicar of Christ
    (Latin Vicarius Christi).
    A title of the pope implying his supreme and universal primacy, both of honour and of jurisdiction, over the Church of Christ. It is founded on the words of the Divine Shepherd to St. Peter: “Feed my lambs. . . . Feed my sheep” (John 21:16-17), by which He constituted the Prince of the Apostles guardian of His entire flock in His own place, thus making him His Vicar and fulfilling the promise made in Matthew 16:18-19.
    In the course of the ages other vicarial designations have been used for the pope, as Vicar of St. Peter and even Vicar of the Apostolic See (Pope Gelasius, I, Ep. vi), but the title Vicar of Christ is more expressive of his supreme headship of the Church on earth, which he bears in virtue of the commission of Christ and with vicarial power derived from Him. Thus, Innocent III appeals for his power to remove bishops to the fact that he is Vicar of Christ (cap. “Inter corporalia”, 2, “De trans. ep.”). He also declares that Christ has given such power only to His Vicar Peter and his successors (cap. “Quanto”, 3, ibid.), and states that it is the Roman Pontiff who is “the successor of Peter and the Vicar of Jesus Christ” (cap. “Licet”, 4, ibid.). The title Vicar of God used for the pope by Nicholas III (c. “Fundamenta ejus”, 17, “De elect.”, in 6) is employed as an equivalent for Vicar of Christ.
    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15403b.htm

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    What authority does Innocent III have over the Bible?

  • AugustineThomas

    God gave St. Peter the keys to the kingdom. This is a direct symbol of authority–the authority to interpret the bible.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    So when the Catholic removes one of the ten commandments on idols, and ignores 1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,” what kind authority is that?

  • I’m a lifelong Catholic, well, was a lifelong Catholic until this buffoon Marxist pope came along. I just can’t decide whether he’s evil or just plain stupid. He’s right up there with Obama in posing a grave existential threat to western civilization. I’ll not contribute another dime until the Church fully and clearly embraces world liberty instead of world socialism. Liberty is always the answer.

  • AugustineThomas

    Christ is the mediator between God the Father and humanity. That doesn’t preclude God from using mediators between himself and other humans. How else do you explain that Christ chose apostles and disciples to convert the world? If he truly only wanted himself to be able to communicate God’s word, why would he pick helpers to spread his message?

    And Catholics never removed one of the Ten Commandments. Catholics compiled the Ten Commandments as Christians know them today. It’s absurd when Protestants make these kinds of claims. Protestants wouldn’t have a bible if they hadn’t had the scriptures of the One True Church to pick and choose from.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    The Catholic bible comes from the Alexandrian texts, the King James comes the texus receptus, i.e. it does not come from your Bible.

    Catholic Bible:

    Second Commandment

    “You shall not take the name of the LORD, your
    God, in vain.”

    King James Bible

    Second Commandment

    “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven
    image, or any likeness above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is
    in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself
    to them, nor serve them.”

    Third Commandment

    “Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy
    God in vain.”

    1 Timothy 2:5 KJV

    “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”

    Matthew 23:9 KJV

    “And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.”

  • Reynauld

    The Catholic church is a Marxist antiwhite racket that needs to be junked

  • Reynauld

    fuck off libturd

  • Reynauld

    Oh bullshit

  • UsedToBeDem

    This is why I no longer attend and support the Catholic Church. This is not what the Pope is supposed to be doing. So extremely disappointed in what the Catholic church has become. Where is the out cry on the massacre that is happening at abortion clinics, where is the out rage on the persecution of christians world wide. We hear silence – now we are going to hear crap about global warming. Really – Pope Francis you are a huge disappointment and failure with taking a leading roll on Life issues. Done supporting this church.

  • David W

    As Archbishop of Buenos Aries, he’s certainly had a lot to say to the government of Argentina.

  • josh michael

    The Pope keeps the Priests in poverty while living a lavish life style…and…protecting pedophiles in priesthood!

  • Steven Barrett

    Get your facts straight. The Pope does not keep “… the Priests in poverty while living a lavish lifestyle.” While I don’t want to over-simplify things (though in the Age of The Donald, it might be the safer course, when it comes to “keeping people in poverty” there are two kinds of priests, those who seek ordination through their respective dioceses. They give up all their major material belongings or at least leave them behind for their immediate families and when they enter their dioceses’ seminaries, they’re unencumbrered by material interests and distractions from the outside, (just as they are concerning romantic connections. They join to serve God and God only just as the first Apostles, and disciples who followed them to become priests and deacons.) After they are through their studies, get assigned to a parish back in their diocese, rarely their home parish anymore, they’re allowed to receive a car, a modest stipend, spending allowances and book/higher education pursuit alloances, etc. I’m not exactly sure of the exact wording; for our purposes it doesn’t make that much of a difference. For those young men who decide to pursue a calling primarily within a monastic order such as the Augustinians, Benedictines, Jesuits, Franciscans, Maryknollers, they enter according to each order’s specific rules for abandoning their material life behind. Later, in accordance to each order’s own rules and okays from the dioceses they have permission to serve in (nobody gets around the primary authority of the Bishop who’s appointed directly from the Vatican and ordained by the Pope or through his authority in the local archbishop. That’s the “chain o’ command.” Got a beef with that, say an Our Father and take it up with Jesus Who started it with His pick of Peter to be His chosen successor.
    So, do you get the “poverty” part? Great, may I now just advise you to do some digging upon Pope Francis’ decisions concerning his living arrangements within the Vatican. They’ll disappoint you greatly I suppose but not from any respect you might grudgingly give the man for his decisions to eschew the fancy schmancy palatial digs. Most likely these revelations will destroy your preconceptions, biases, prejudices etc etc etc. Don’t be alarmed. Hell, in this day and age, I can promise you LOTS OF COMPANY.

  • Steven Barrett

    What would Cliff do if Bernie Sanders converted to Catholicism, and for some reason, he lost out to Joe Biden who appointed him Ambassador to the Holy See? While I’d rather Bernie become Cliff’s ultimate worst nightmare when he succeeds Barack Obama, knowing he and Pope Francis are working in concert to put an end to both global exploitation and climate change, which together present a primordial and existential threat to world peace … well, there’s living proof right there that God’s in Heaven and keeping us from prying the gates of hell even further. WIth God, Pope Francis President Biden and Amb. Bernie Sanders, it’ll be a sight for sore eyes to watch the GOP, FOX, Charlie and David Koch, The Donald, Carli Fiorina, even Mitt Romney, the Walton Family Trust tax accountants, Wall Street hedge funders, lobbyists for the Club of “Growth,” Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute, AEI, etc et/a … the entire boatload full of usual suspects … will all be on bended knees begging for the Lord’s mercy and forgiveness. What a sight for sore eyes.

  • Steven Barrett

    Missieb2000: Could you possibly salute the rank if not the individual wearing it? It’s an old service expression, but it sure does alot more to help the military meet its assigned missions. We could certainly agree that the Pope’s mission is by far the most serious of any one man. Always has been for the past, 2000 years. I know where you’re coming from and I’ve been there so I’m not entirely unsympathetic. What brought me back to my senses was the Gospel readings where Peter was the first to recognize Jesus’ real role and identity, and where Peter humbly turns to Jesus and asks his Lord and recognized Savior (when others were walking away when Jesus first identified Himself as “the bread and life” by the shores of Lake Galilee, and asks in so many word, Whom and where else can we (mere mortals) turn to for eternal life?
    Since Jesus appointed Peter as His eathly successor to lead the Church, as we’ve come to know it as the Catholic … i.e., universal … Church, and only the Catholic Church, (i.e., not “Roman” … which was given to us by our Anglican breakaways) … no matter how uncomfortable we might find Pope X or Y, he’s still St. Peter’s successor and by right, endowed with all the gifts of the Holy Spirit given unto Peter and the Apostles on Pentacost Sunday in the very same room where the first officially recognized full Eucharist was celebrated the night before Jesus was sacrificed on Calvary the following Good Friday. I trust you know all the details, but how can it hurt to read them in distilled forms now and then, like we do during Mass when we recite the Nicene Creed. Never hurts to give ourselves reminders. It strengthens our faith in the very institution we need to put more faith in so we can count on its power to lift us up when we need it the most … when we feel the most alone and alienated. It’s easy to believe in the Church when all’s going our way or just in general when we “find that special pope,” or get that one in a million priest for our next parish pastor … but it’s far more than that. It’s Christ’s only divinely founded institution; and all the more reason people who want to call themselves loyal Catholic, want to give it their entire trust and faith. After all, as His only founded instutition in his short lifespan, the Catholic Church deserves “our all” for that reason alone, just as we believe in no other Gods as well. I pray and hope my words will be reassuring for you moreso than my previously snarky replies. God’s Peace, S.

  • missieb2000

    While I appreciate the less snark reply, Pope Francis is first a man. He appears to be a man more shaped by his experiences in South America than we realized. I appreciate the role he holds-I will forever adore John Paul II. but my current Pope gives me pause.

  • Olga Zurova

    If the Pope is disregarding Church teaching and denying the Gospel, then hell yeah I defy him to his face.

  • Steven Barrett

    Yeah, I bet you would. Satisfied?

  • Dennis .Brown

    Thank you Mr. Kincaid. Spot on.

  • John Collins

    Hatefulness? how about the hatefulness of the leftist bishops who insist on flooding us with third world people,who now push gun control..global warming//well this lifelong Catholic is dumping this marxist racket masquerading as a church

  • John Collins

    Bullshit.the marxism of the Catholic church proves its not of God

  • AugustineThomas

    There are Marxist Evangelicals.. Who even knows what Protestants believe, there are so many sects.
    There is only one Church, Christ is clear about that, and St. Peter founded his diocese in Rome.

  • Forgotyourname

    🙂

  • AugustineThomas

    The Church built modernity and everything good that Protestants poached and St. John Paul II did more than any man to bring down Communism.

  • John Collins

    There is nothing about Christ in this sick pedo wordshiping anti american outfit.

  • John Collins

    Protestants made America great.The Catholic Church is the ultimate in anti Christ corruption you brainwashed idiot !

  • AugustineThomas

    The Protestant Heresy led to the Secularist Apostasy. Backward, fundamentalist, uncultured rebellion against the One True Church is what taught secularists that they could illegitimately rebel against all Christianity.
    The secularist cancer is simply Protestants reaping what they’ve sown. Anyone who rejects God’s Church, rejects God himself because they refuse to listen to his commandment to be unified in ONE Church.

    God bless you brother!

  • AugustineThomas

    Protestants have a higher rate of child sexual abuse than the Catholic clergy ever did. Secularists, who are direct ideological descendants of Protestants, have the highest rate of child sexual abuse of any group in history.

  • John Collins

    bullshit.the Roman Caholic church is for destroying the second amendment..opening our borders. One true church may ass! flood us with Mexicans and Syrians? oppose the death penalty for heinous murderers and like these bishops who want to take away our right to keep and bear arms? Frankly I’m more like Thomas Jefferson..this is all a bunch of mythological crap.If you wanna support this pedo worshiping marxist racket masquerading as a church with its Marxist asshole leader Bergoglio, that’s your business..

  • AugustineThomas

    You’re more like Thomas Jefferson the wife-beating slave-owner?

  • John Collins

    Bullshit..this illegal alien loving second amendment hating marxist racket masquerading as a church has nothing to do with Jesus!

  • John Collins

    Absolute bullshit..sorry bud..I was raised Catholic but more than that..as a patriotic American. Jesus said “by their fruits you will know them” and this second amendment hating, illegal alien loving global warming marxist racket led by a socialist Argentine is about as far from Jesus as they get..Heck..Jesus has long been lost in all the Mary-Goddess worship!

  • John Collins

    Where the hell did you come up with that?? How about the heretic burning Spanish Inquisition?

  • John Collins

    Papist lies..the Orthodox Church would disagree,,they were the original church

  • John Collins

    wanna cite some statistics wafer worshiper?

  • AugustineThomas

    You can easily do an Internet search and see that the Catholic clergy, even at the height of the “crisis”, had a much lower rate of abuse than the rest of the country–including Protestant pastors. You can’t seriously be so blinded by your fundamentalism that you don’t notice all the sexually abusive pastors.

    And I worship Christ and follow his commandment to eat his Body and drink his Blood.. I don’t just make up my own fantasy rules like Protestants, which is why you guys now have 40,000 warring, self-contradictory sects.

  • AugustineThomas

    The Orthodox split from the One True Church. We should all pray that one day the whole Church will be reunited, under the Diocese that St. Peter founded.
    Christ very clearly gives St. Peter the keys to the kingdom, not to some heretic like Luther or Calvin (although theirs and all Protestants’ souls can still be saved from Hell, just like those of people who worship in the One True Church).

  • AugustineThomas

    Bad Protestants murdered far more Catholics than the other way around.

  • AugustineThomas

    It’s amazing to me that you deny the One True Church, which built all modernity, for some Chick-Tract-esque, uneducated, Protestant fundamentalism.

  • AugustineThomas

    Stop cursing little boy.

  • AugustineThomas

    Look at the John Jay study. Catholic priests have a lower rate of abuse than the general public, including all Protestants, Evangelicals or whatever they’re calling themselves now, by far.

    It’s always interesting to have a heretic accuse you of heresy! 🙂

  • AugustineThomas

    Are you unaware that the Orthodox Church didn’t split until a thousand years after St. Peter founded his diocese in Rome?
    You’re playing the part of Satan–hating God’s plan, hating that Christ gave St. Peter authority definitively in the bible and that St. Peter was the first leader of the One True Church.

  • AugustineThomas

    North American Protestants murdered far more Indians, Catholics, and African-American Christians than the Inquisition ever justifiably put people to death.
    The Inquisition was a far more humane justice system than our own. (Obama has put more people to death by drone-strike WITHOUT a trial than the Spanish Inquisition did over 400 years WITH trials.)

  • AugustineThomas

    I’m sorry that you decided to become a hateful troll rather than learn more about the One True Church. (When former Catholics say they’re Catholic, they think they’re telling everyone they know something about the Church, but what you’re telling anyone knowledgeable is that you probably received one of the worse religious educations in history because members of the American Church have been so corrupt and incompetent for so long.
    Many good Catholics are won over by the Americanist Heresy, just as you have been. You’re putting your worldly goals above spiritual truths.

    I pray that you come back to the Church! God bless you!

  • AugustineThomas

    If that is the case, then why does the Church continue to be the largest, most effective group of Christians? Why is it that Protestants/”Evangelicals” continue to split into yet more self-contradictory, warring sects?

  • John Collins

    These bishops are for repealing the 2nd Amendment and for gun control and flooding our country with illegal aliens..after 160 years of my family being catholic i;’m dumping this marxist pedophile racket

  • John Collins

    This church is now everything the Know Nothings said about it..agitating to flood us with 3rd world assholes..totally for democrat gun control..not to mention all of the disgusting pedophile priests this criminal racket defended..

  • John Collins

    Oh bullshit..you know nothing of Christian history

  • John Collins

    Americanist heresy? You mean having ancestors who fought in the American Revolution? You mean not following the dictates of the present Argentine Communist called “Pope”?

  • John Collins

    Papist lies..as usual

  • John Collins

    Heretic..hell..do you still believe these ancient fairy tales from the first century?

  • AugustineThomas

    Yes John, I do believe in the truth, which was delivered to us by Christ. Do you believe in the Secularist fairy tales that have caused your ideological brothers to be the worst murderers in history?

  • AugustineThomas

    I’m not much of a papist lately. I can’t stand Pope Francis.
    Anyway, God bless you John! That’s a beautiful Christian name your parents blessed you with!

  • AugustineThomas

    You’re confused. The pope can’t change the Church’s teaching and none ever have. You’re mad at Christ’s Church and you’re taking it out on flawed men like Jorge Bergoglio and myself (the latter being more flawed than the former).

    By Americanist, I mean the worship of a flawed document, the Constitution, even when one’s interpretation of it comes into conflict with well-established universal truths.

  • AugustineThomas

    I studied it at one of the top ranked history departments in the world (at a Secularist university) and I’ve read the top Christian scholars in the world for going on 15 years. I’d say I know a bit about it.

  • Acadian Driftwood

    You can’t stand him because he’s from Latin America. Your white supremacist worldview has been duly noted.

  • AugustineThomas

    I can’t stand him because he often preaches heresy without checking with anyone first.
    There are plenty of Hispanic orthodox bishops who I support completely and would follow to my death.

    Anyway, it’s a tough charge to prove that I hate Hispanics when I’m a part of the Church, which is full of my brother Hispanics.
    (By the way I was raised on a strawberry farm and I can almost speak Spanish fluently from having worked and lived alongside Hispanics my entire life. A lot of the men and women who helped form my character and personality were/are Hispanic.)

  • Acadian Driftwood

    By the way, the tooth fairy is not capitalized. It’s not a proper name. Please continue to demonstrate that you are a punctuational pedant of prodigious proportion. It is quite amusing.

    *reaches for popcorn*

  • Acadian Driftwood

    I’m going to have to throw a flag at you for not capitalizing the Bible. What an act of heresy you have committed. You also have committed an egregious error by capitalizing one true church. Please refrain from engaging an incorrect punctuation in an attempt to magnify the significance of a word or phrase. Strictly speaking, it is improper English to do so. How dare you create your own rules of grammar.

    LMAO!

  • John Collins

    Catholic church is now a marxist racket..no connection to Jesus

  • John Collins

    This is bullshit.. Christ could not have founded this leftist, pro communist pedophile protecting outfit

  • AugustineThomas

    The average American male, such as yourself, is more than 700% more likely to sexually abuse a child than the Catholic clergy.
    The Church built modernity and gave you your fat, easy life you ignorant ingrate. All the Protestants have given us is the Secularist Apostasy which is responsible for the murder of over a billion innocent unborn children. WORSE THAN NAZIS.

  • AugustineThomas

    Forgive me for my mistake. I’m not arguing that humans should be perfect. I’m arguing that we should not reject proper grammar.

    I often make cognitive typos where I’m typing so fast that I don’t realize I’m using an inappropriate form.
    Here I was discussing the Bible, but for some reason, my mind caused me to think of it in the context of, say, “the bible of Economics” or “the bible of poker”.
    The point is that I wasn’t neglecting to capitalize ‘Bible’ out of disrespect (obviously; Catholics codified the Bible, it was Protestants who picked and chose the parts that don’t repudiate their heresy).
    When Secularists refuse to capitalize ‘God’, they’re doing it out of petty bitterness. When Protestants refuse to capitalize ‘the Church’ or ‘the One True Church’ they’re also doing it out of petty bitterness. The same would be true of a Catholic who refused to capitalize the name of a Protestant denomination.

    In fact this is a great example of the politicization of grammar. A lot of uneducated Americans think that you use grammar to show your ideology (not capitalizing ‘God’ is again a great example).
    The truth is that we capitalize proper names. I still refer to the Lutheran Church as the Lutheran Church even though I think it’s heretical.
    Another thing that even most journalists are ignorant of is the different between the Church and particular churches. They always call the Catholic Church “the Catholic church” in a pathetic attempt to show disrespect. ‘The Catholic Church’ is a proper name so both are capitalized just like the Church is properly capitalized (‘catholic’ just means ‘universal’ and shouldn’t even be applied; the Church is the Church that God founded; the rest deserve extra names because they moved away from the original Church). When you refer to a Catholic church, you’re talking about a particular church that is Catholic.
    The same goes for any Protestants. There are many Lutheran churches that make up the Lutheran Church.

    And I admit that I’m no grammarian. It’s hard to be that when so few people have any concept of proper grammar, which is why I speak out in favor of returning to good grammar, despite my own lack of ability (which is a result of having been forced into the public school system).

    Thanks for correcting me and God bless you!

  • AugustineThomas

    The Tooth Fairy is a character you fool! Donald Duck is capitalized even though he doesn’t really exist.
    Is public school really this bad that they’ve stopped teaching grammar altogether? (I shouldn’t be surprised. I know it was pretty pathetic by the time I got there.)

    Also, just so you know, be very careful with alliteration. It can make you look like Shakespeare or an idiot who is trying too hard, which is always the case when you use too many alliterated words in secession (more than three is almost always over the top).

  • Acadian Driftwood

    The tooth fairy is a mythical concept and not the proper name of anything and many editors have decided it doesn’t necessitate capitalization. I am not alone in this assessment. It is not a character in a work of fiction or in animation which is the reason Donald Duck requires capitalization

    *laughs at the insufferable git who is demonstrating his intellectual insecurities*

  • Acadian Driftwood

    >…which is always the case when you use too many alliterated words in secession…

    In secession? Are we discussing the Confederacy in the antebellum South now? Oh, brother! The word you were groping for is succession. Idiot much?

    LOL

    It’s quite ironic that I keep finding your errors (this is no mere typo) yet you continue to prattle on in a most insufferable manner. To wit:

    “I feel a do a better job than you and the average Disqus commenter by far!”

    *pats you on your head*

  • AugustineThomas

    I told you I’m typing fast. It’s called a cognitive slip. ‘Secession’ and ‘succession’ sound the same.
    Would you like me to nitpick all the typos you make? Your grammar is atrocious. I make a few typos here in there.
    My point stands. I do better than the average Westerner and I’ve never said we should all be perfect. I’m just mad at people like you who arrogantly and proudly preach flawed grammar to others, because they put their cancerous ideology above all else.

  • AugustineThomas

    You’re a fool. Please send me a link to any respected editor who says he’s decided not to capitalize proper nouns anymore.
    Donald Duck isn’t real either. We still capitalize Donald Duck.

  • Acadian Driftwood

    Donald Duck is a character in animated film shorts.

    Why are you stupid?

    Lead paint in the nursery?

  • Acadian Driftwood

    I don’t make grammatical mistakes. Find them if you dare.

    >I’m just mad at people like you who arrogantly and proudly preach flawed grammar to others,

    Says the nut job who has hounded and harangued Danah “Over Under Sideways Down” on a thread for spelling the tooth fairly correct.
    I kid you not!

    You’re a contemptible pedant. Now buzz off.

  • Acadian Driftwood

    >Donald Duck isn’t real either

    Cite where I ever said Donald Duck was a real entity?

    Your straw man argument is adorable.

  • Acadian Driftwood

    >I make a few typos here in there.

    LOL

    It’s not here in there. It’s here and there.

    >I’m just mad at people like you who arrogantly…

    It is incorrect to use the word mad when you mean angry. Mad is a clinical definition of one who is insane. So are you insane? LOL

    Funny that every one of your posts contains an error. Your haste is no excuse. If you valued the art of the written word you wouldn’t be so slovenly and slipshod about what you post. There’s no accounting for the behavior of the gauche.

    >because they put their cancerous ideology above all else.

    Yeah, my agenda that the tooth fairy is not a proper name. Who knew? O.o Try not to sound so much like an unbalanced Bible thumper will you?

    At least you learned a new word today: succession

    You’re welcome prat.

  • AugustineThomas

    You’re an absolute kook. You’re lucky that I’m even responding to you because you’re not making any arguments, just trying mightily to gloss over the fact that you lost the debate by nitpicking my typos because I don’t have time to edit the comments I write to you.

    It is quite acceptable to use mad as a synonym for angry. You’re almost always wrong when you try to correct me and you make far more typos than I do. (You don’t use “>” in place of a dash or bullet to make a point and there are about fifty others I’ve seen in your comments.)

    You’re not getting anywhere with this. If you come up with a real argument in favor of abortion let me know. The only point here is that the Unborn Holocaust is evil. Unborn human beings are human beings the same as any of us.
    You’re supporting evil and you must stop!

    God bless you! (I won’t respond in kind to your pathetic, meaningless insults.)

  • AugustineThomas

    You seem to be incapable of understanding arguments that aren’t extremely simplistic.
    The Tooth Fairy is a character. Donald Duck is a character. WE CAPITALIZE PROPER NAMES WHETHER OR NOT THE ENTITY IN QUESTION IS REAL!!!!

    Even if the impossible were true and God weren’t real, you would still capitalize ‘God’ because it’s a proper name.
    Secularists are anti-intellectual children, which is why they refuse to capitalize God–they think it will hurt the feelings of Christians. That’s the only reason they do it.
    Then we get Secularists like you trying to accomplish the absurd and suggest that you’ve all thought this through and it’s grammatically proper.
    Even educated Secularists still capitalize God. Only the ignorant Secularist masses think this is a good way to stick it to Christians. The Secularist scholars have more sophisticated means. They simply don’t call you out because they believe the ends justify the means and most of them are planning to euthanize uneducated Secularists along with the religious because they want about 5 billion less people on this planet.

  • AugustineThomas

    I’ve pointed out about ten of your grammatical mistakes. I don’t have time to play your childish games anymore.

    I’ve explained to you about ten times that I was not reacting to a mistake. I was reacting to the Secularist bitterness that inspires you and causes people to refuse to capitalize God because they hate religious Christians. That is the only anti-intellectual part of this. Making mistakes is not anti-intellectual; it’s part of the basis of intellectualism.

    What I’m trying to stop is what you guys always do; make an ideological mistake and then try to codify it in society to sweep your mistake under the rug. That is why many secularists are now starting to neglect to capitalize other proper names, like ‘Tooth Fairy’.

    Anyway, you’ve clearly closed your mind because you’re obsessed with being right. (You’re a Secularist so, because you have no God, your ego runs wild even though you have no evidence to back it up.)

    I hope one day you’ll start to seek the truth!

    God bless you!

  • AugustineThomas

    I can’t even believe you’re real. This is how bad the public education system has got.

    Donald Duck is NOT REAL, yet we still capitalize his name, because it is a PROPER NAME.
    The Tooth Fairy is NOT REAL, yet we still capitalize her name, because it is a PROPER NAME.

  • AugustineThomas

    It’s absolutely incredible to me that you think that the Tooth Fairy is somehow different fundamentally because she arises from a literary tradition, but Donald Duck deserves more respect because he comes from Disney and you love intellectually bankrupt, Secularist, pop culture. Haha! 🙂

  • Acadian Driftwood

    No I will continue to abide by sources that say the Tooth Fairy is not a proper name it’s not a character it may have appeared in some oral traditions and some books but is not a proper name like Donald Duck is a proper name.

    But cry more new pathological pedant.

  • Acadian Driftwood

    No I will abide by sources that do not capitalize the tooth fairy. It has appeared in oral tradition in various forms and apparitions but it’s certainly not settled that it exists as a character in a fictional work with a proper name like Huckleberry Finn and Dracula

  • Acadian Driftwood

    Jane Eyre Scarlett O’Hara Rhett Butler Holly Golightly Uriah Heep

    Norman Bates Ebenezer Scrooge Don Quixote Sancho Panza

    Dulcinea Sherlock Holmes Doctor Zhivago Atticus Finch

    Count Dracula Huckleberry Finn Tom Joad Winston Smith

    Dorian Gray Jay Gatsby Daisy Buchanan Charles Foster Kane

    George Amberson Minafer Macbeth Othello John Falstaff.

    That’s just a small example of characters in literary works and films whose names are capitalized. So it’s another straw man that I’m partial to Disney.

  • Acadian Driftwood

    Here in there? LMFAO! That’s no typo. You just never learned how to correctly write the expression as is the case with the word succession. You’re relying too much on word pronunciation and with English that is a very bad habit.

    I’m against abortion and unequivocally have stated that already. Way to keep lying about me and misrepresenting my views. What a duplicitous misogynist.

    >Using a greater sign to quote someone is not incorrect you trailer trash fire. I could also use quotes. It’s a stylistic choice. Both are perfectly acceptable. Show me where I have made any grammatical mistakes? You can’t because you’re just a loon desperately trying to save face by claiming I have made errors. Show this evidence or shut up.

    Only a desperate pathological pedant grasping at straws would even take issue with a >. You are pathological so thanks for demonstrating it once again.

    You claimed women rape in meaningful ways otherwise why bring up that women rape? It is so very rare and the reason you brought it up was to mitigate all the rapes men commit. Ergo, you need a lesson in the definition of rape so I will give it to you.

    Rape- is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration perpetrated against a person without that person’s consent.

    So tell me, are women going to use a dildo to engage in sexual intercourse when they commit rape? At best, you could claim a women could use their finger or an object to penetrate someone but the numbers are just not there like you think they are. Yet you claim you love women and you are in favor of supporting women on a variety of issues. Well, stating that women as a class and group rape in any meaningful way demonstrates you actually have contempt for women. You use women as a cudgel to make men less monstrous and violent. It’s what chauvinists and misogynists like you do. You’re disgusting.

    Still waiting for you to point out any typos or grammatical errors I have made. Still waiting.

    Meanwhile, I’ll be over here laughing at your incompetence.

    SECESSION=/SUCCESSION
    UNIVERISITIES=/UNIVERSITIES
    MAD=/ANGRY
    HERE IN THERE=/HERE AND THERE

    I could go on but I take pity on fools and dumpster fires.

    There is not a debate to lose. Making up positions on issues which I don’t hold is not debating; it’s a scurrilous claim. You lost any so called debate when you mendaciously claimed now TWO times that I support women getting abortions. WRONG!!!!! Trash fire.

    You have demonstrated that you are morally bankrupt by acting in a mendacious and duplicitous manner in an attempt to smear me and “win” your so called debate.

    You lost your integrity by lying about me. That’s a huge loss and a pitiful thing you did. You should be having a conversation with yourself why you did that because it harms you more than it would ever harm me.

  • John Collins

    I’m finally an EX-Catholic..the know nothings were right

  • John Collins

    so are you a nonwhite turd?

  • Acadian Driftwood

    Flagged for flagrant thread necromancy. This thread has been dead for two months. Get a life.

    FYI: I am Caucasian you idiot.

  • John Collins

    You are a leftist asshole

  • Forgotyourname

    And you are a foul mouth sinner John.

  • Forgotyourname

    When did the college of Cardinal make you a know it all John?