Cliff, I was introduced to AIM by a friend of mine who at the time was very political/religious/ideological and always wanted to talk about how everything wasn’t what it seemed to be. He has been utterly tired of keeping up with all the bs that has occured in our country and the world so hes decided to enjoy life as best he can. A lot of that was unecessary but I do want to thank him and you guys for delivering excellent news and critiques on what is happening.

On the Obama issue, i’m flabbergasted by the weak attempt of the media, both conservative and liberal, in questioning all the candidates on their past, present and future issues. When you are running for THE most important position of responsibility I would like to think that we the people (including media) would do everything in our power to ensure that slot is filled by a person qualified for it. Not the person who is the least corrupt. I say enough of the Bush or Kerry decisions.

If a Japanese-American was running for president post pearl harbor he would be questioned into the ground because no American would take the risk unless he was absolutely qualified. I see no difference in Obama, I personally like his views but its descerning no attempt in making him prove that his affiliations aren’t going to affect his presidency. We are in a time that anything close to 9/11 to me would bring caution. Based on the national response over the years I guess we’ve already forgotten that day in time.

These revelations seem to be coming far too late to do any good.

Surely, all the media, including the ones now questioning Mr. Obama, were aware that he was annointed to become president.  That was so obvious when he made his speech at the convention.  They have had quite a few years to dig up and expose what this man thinks, his affiliations, his background.  Yet, they are waiting until now, after everyone but Hillary has dropped by the wayside?? 

Too little too late.

Not being corrupt seems to me to be one of the most important qualifications of being President.  Certainly, being the least corrupt would be good.

You know that Cheney and Bush were both draft dodgers? I woiuld look at that before accusing someone of being a commie.

“Obama’s political career was boosted by Chicago-based Marxists and that he sat on a foundation board with a terrorist?”

Please, if you have fairness then also note the Bush connection with the Bin Ladens. I am no Obama fan however I at least believe in accuracy as opposed to this one sided case.

MikeM, your whine about Bush or Cheney might be relevant if either were running for president,, now McCain and the commie-lover Barack Hussien are. Try to keep up on current events, it helps the ebb and flow of the conversation

MikeM, are you stupid? Firstly, neither Bush nor Cheney is running in this election. Secondly, while Cheney did in fact obtain numerous draft deferments, the actual draft dodgers ran to Canada and other places to avoid military service. Last, in the Texas ANG George W. Bush learned to fly a single-engine, single-seat jet fighter that professional Air Force pilots called the “widowmaker”. Hardly a draft dodger there. Although he didn’t spend 3 months in RVN writing himself up for bogus medals like Kerry. Get over your BDS, the gild is falling away from the magical negro. He will lose the election due to being unfit for the office of President, no other reason.

Mike M… what a maroon!  Get some education and try reading a book or two before spouting typical lefty nonsense. I love it when you idiots on the left can only deflect questions with bazaar responses like yours. Your lack any intellectual reasoning is almost laughable.

John, why did you use his middle name?

Let’s accept Mike M’s premise that GW Bush’s Saudi associations led to complicity in 9/11, OPEC price fixing, etc., etc. – and that this led to one of the most corrupt administrations in history. If libs have that much introspection and foresight why can’t they see this train-wreck of a Marxist plant presidency coming?

“… If libs have that much introspection and foresight why can’t they see this train-wreck of a Marxist plant presidency coming…”

Because to libs this isn’t a train wreck, it’s victory! A marxist president is the ultimate win.

ladytexan, I couldn’t agree with you more. While Obama should of been questioned a long time ago its a little late to bring it up because the lefts want him in as quick as possible and the conservatives aren’t going to bring bashing techniques so late in the race. While I think he’s the best out the crappy selection I’m concerned that he’s been bread from people higher up that want to use his position in the white house for their benefit. I saw it happen to Bush, not saying he’s a great president, but when he was govenor early in the 90’s I thought he had great insight on issues like health care and taxes cuts. He also was apart of the few to advise Clinton in adding more troops to Magadeshu (spelling?) to prevent the unfortunate Black Hawk Down. It seems to be more of an administration problem, I’d have no problem supporting a revamping and purging of our government. Power back to the people!

It seems like the anti Obama people don’t have very many facts so a good lie or rumor will do.

Guilt by association that’s good.  The same thing the neocons did! Opps! I meant nazis!  Separation of church and state!  I don’t know Dr. Wright! But I do know two things. One, it seems kind of funny that a pastor can preach for over fourty years, serve in the Marines and after I figure 5,000 hours of preaching, someone can come up with 30 seconds of things he said that they find objectionable. Not to say who did all of this research just to find these thirty seconds.  So when I heard pastor Hagee say how his career was reduce to these sound bites, I wonder if the people who did this realize exactly how much they have damaged this country with this kind of dirt.  And for you no church goers, preachers who say that G-d is going to or have comdemned this country some way or other for something or other are a dime a dozen.  The idiots who did this simply took away a big part of the republician base.  Funny how evil comes back to bite you, kama!

Second, if there were any truth to anything you say, as much as Hamity hates black people, and as much as he really hates Obama, he would have reported it.  But even he can’t hide behind a lie that big so he reports nothing. 

What amazes me that, people hate black people so much that they would rather have a collaborator (McCain) as president.  People hate blacks so much that they would rather watch this country that I love be destroyed rather than have a Black president.  You fucking cowards can’t even be honest enough to admit that!  You don’t deserve someone like Obama!  Spread you lies and hate and stand the #### by if Obama doesn’t win, because this country won’t survive another four years of the direction we are going in.  And when all of the rich people find out that their money has become worthless because of deflation, and the food lines are around the corners, and half the gas stations are closed, remember this moment in history and what you where working for and your true inner motivations. 

We are the last super-power on earth.  There are a great many multination corporations, and many nations who want our country to become a third world nation, to be destroyed from within.  Who in the hell do you think the lobbyist are working for!  Yea! The same ones who work on John McCain campain, his fucking handlers!  What dim wits!  What could be a more perfect and ironic choice to finish selling this country out.  A fucking collaborator disguised as a hero,no one calling him out on it, your only help being a nigger and you dumb fuckers can’t even get past you racism to even get a peek of the real truth.

Tyrone:
I take it that you are a non-Caucasian American. There are 3 clues to this:
a) your name
b) your gratuitous use of the “N” word
c) misspellings of every multi-syllabic word except “collaborator”

Not that your ethnicity means anything, Tyrone, but maybe YOUR hatred of either Republicans, Caucasians, or conservatives (or a combination of all three) has led you to believe that a Marxist takeover of this country is a viable alternative to where you think we’re heading as a country. You can’t love this country that much if you want to blow things up and start over with a failed populist formula. Why do you love this country so much if it’s ground zero for Negrophobia?

If his ethnicity doesn’t mean anything, why did you bring it up?

Sheik Barack Hussein Obama (excuse my insensitivity… Barry O’Bummer) will pull a Cassius Clay if he is elected. No doubt in my mind. The (un)holy quran states that believers in Ali Baba should and could present an image of peaceful coexistence with us infidels until they gain control. I find it inconceivable that while we are at war with islam (and… don’t make a mistake in thinking we at at war with only a faction of islam) we could possibly even consider someone named Barack Hussein Obama as a potential candidate for the highest office in the planet. Shows how far we have sunk from our creation by our forefathers. In just fifty years we have gone from Leave it to Beaver to Beavis and Butthead, from Annette Funicello to Britney Spears, and from General of the Army D.D. Eisenhower to (ugh!) Sheik Barack. Inconceivable but true!

Tyrone,

As a theology student, I have to disagree with your statement regarding Dr. Wright. His beliefs and preaching are based on what is call “Black Liberation Theology”, which means in a nutshell, that the only path to salvation is helping the oppressed against “The Man”, it is very similar to Liberation Theory which is based on the same premise with a more Marxist position. The point is that when Dr. Wright opened his mouth during those “5,000 hours” most of his preaching was the twisting of Gods word to support his radical, hate filled agenda. B.H.‘s claim of not being aware of this position is B.S., he (Dr. Wright) is widely known in theological/pastoral circles. That is why you so many African American Pastors stepped forward during Dr. Wright’s tour, dismissing his claim of representing the Black Church, “if you attack me, you attack the Black Church”.

On “Frank”, Ayers and the remainder of Obama’s gang, amplified with his lack of experience, naivety, and lack of an ability to come to terms with what he doesn’t know “true genus is understanding what you don’t know”. This all adds up to the wrong man at the wrong time. His administration would be an unmitigated disaster, perhaps even surpassing the shamefully retched “Carter Years”.

I don’t care what color a man is, below the skin we are all the same and brothers in Christ, Oboma is just not ready or able to lead this Country.

“The poor have voted democrat for 50 years and they’re still poor’. Charles Barkley

The richest of the rich in politics are democrats who make a practice of ripping off the same poor who are ignorant enough to keep voting for them.

Hussein O (an Islamist) will fess up or be killed by Islamist as an Apostate.

I agree with most of the assessments of the political figures in all the posts.

If we would all just step out from behind the labels (put on by politicians for their own benefit) of ‘liberal’ or ‘conservative’ or ‘Rep’ or ‘Dem’ and realize they are all working for the same goal – to dismantle this country and hand it over to the globalist corporations.

Pres. Bush was not that great as governor.  The governor of Texas simply doesn’t have that much power and until he got into the WH, the state legislature was a group of people who worked for the State of Texas.  He couldn’t do too much damage and the office of Governor was simply a stepping stone. I mean they couldn’t take a man who had done nothing, successfully,  but be a figurehead for a baseball team and put him in the WH, without dressing him up someway – and the governorship did just that.

I just wish we all, whatever way we believe the government should work, would stop parrotting the spin of the politicians – such as anyone against Obama is a racist – and Pres. Bush was not a draft dodger.  We deny our intelligence when we repeat those things.  Some may think one idealogy or the other needs to win at any price, but believe me, our honor is too big a price to pay to back some corrupt politician.  It really is.

If we would all sit quietly and look back through the years and realize that no matter the person in office, the party in office, whether they are the same as the WH or not, the agenda has gone right along.

We have been on a course to increase the power in Washington, to dismantle our industry and in doing so the very independent middle income people, and blur the lines of sovereignty.  Every administration and congress has worked together to do that for the last 50 years, probably longer.

The things we think of as liberal, civil rights and welfare seems to be liberal touchy feely agenda.  It isn’t.  Think about it.  Welfare has been the greatest waste of human potential in this country.  Civil rights gave the government power to decide who a person hires, fires, rents to, sells to, goes to school, etc.  Think that was for the benefit of any people. Not hardly, it was giving the government power over more and more of our lives.

How about the ‘war on drugs’. Give me a break.  Has drugs diminished?  No, but the power of the governments, local and federal, have.  The power to confiscate property, before conviction, to enter before knocking to search for drugs, etc.
It hasn’t stopped drugs in any way, but it has certainly diminished our freedom from our government.

Think about the trade deals that has been made – none to the benefit of this country and it’s people – only corporations.

The war in Iraq – benefitting Americans?  We are told it’s to ‘fight them there rather than here’.  How can that be when there’s nothing to keep them from coming here.  WE have an open and inviting border – and an illegal population of 20-30 million people to be used as cover.

We need to get out of our comfort zone and think.  Surely we realize if something is going to make a difference, it can’t be business as usual.

Cliff, I hear what you are saying but, tho McCain was once my hero, he is not conservitive , I think all are dead..the fact McCain after being in prison there signed and had the information sealed so now we cannot get the rest of our troops out of Nam prisons. He is also for open borders or making them citizens. He also gave commies information on our troops there at the time, NO, I have done all my homework. the two side in gov are one bird. to believe other wise would be to be blind. Time is happening just like the L-rd said it would be fulfilled. He is coming and the god of this world runs all gov. scripture tells us that too. to love a party rather than the consitituion and all that made America what it was,is more importand it seem. but not in my book, I will write in my choice.

Ladytexan has correctly stated THE reality of this Country/Government.
So many people seem to have little or no time to investigate and research the candidates and, instead, rely on soundbites to base their decisions on basically handing over their political responsibilities and decisions to Main Stream Media.
B.O. and his campaign is representative of how the soundbite campaign works with vaporous and insubstantial blatherings made to sound like there are new and exciting ideas being stated when, after looking at the actual words, it turns out to be disappearing ink.
IT WILL BE DISASTEROUS TO HAVE B.O. IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!

wait, this is a parody website? sorry, didn’t catch that until now

Tell me again how Panamanian-born John ‘songbird’ McCain (the nickname given him by REAL Americans held in Viet Nam), THE Manchurian Candidate, of McCain/ Fiengold and McCain/Lieberman fame, a member in bad standing of the ‘KEATING FIVE’,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five, the ‘open borders’ candidate who speaks of a 100-year oil war in Iraq, and who ADMITS ON LIVE TELEVISED DEBATES that he knows ‘less than I should’ about ECONOMICS, is better than a marxist-led, Madras-educated freshman Senator, backed by George Soros?

What is this, the ‘evil of two lessers’?

There is ONLY ONE CANDIDATE, that speaks truth, still in this race.
http://www.RonPaul.2008 will give you the only consionable choice in this evil, NWO-backed election.

Perhaps Cliff Kincaid is too young to remember these historically true events.
‘Accuracy’ in media? I see bias here—-

Hey Tyrone, I’ll be your huckleberry. I won’t ever vote for a Presidential candidate who is other than a White, Western European descended male. There ya go, whatcha gonna do with that?

Ladytexan has correctly stated a lot.  My compliments.  However, a couple of points of clarification. 

First, the “fight them there rather than here” paragraph on Iraq shows that she is mistaken not studied enough on the Middle East, and such Islamic subjects as the 12th Imam. Because the terrorists cannot live with a free Iraq, they must focus on causing our failure there.  That effort does keep them from focusing on our homeland.

Iran, who is now widely recognized as training and supporting and recruiting the terrorists who are fighting us and the Iraqis in Iraq, in essence is already at war with us – a war entirely of their choosing.  And they have repeatedly made statements that clearly illustrate the massive destruction they are planning for both Israel and the U.S.  Iraq is not only about Iraq, but about Iran – the greatest threat to world peace since their hero Hitler, who they are also angry at for having failed to finish the job of exterminating Jews and of ending the biblically-rooted freedoms of Western Civilization.  Their passionate goal is to crush every resistant Western neck under the sandal of their murderous version of Islam, dance over our graves, and rape our women and children along the way.  It sounds extreme, because they are.  It sounds implausible because our collaborating media have censored the facts. 

These facts underscore the reason why Barak Hussein Obama would be such a grave danger to the world, should he end up in the W.H.  His background provides great suspicion that he would support and even pursue treason before patriotism.  He would enable Iran’s dictator, and the other terrorists, to destroy our nation for our crimes of naivety, stupidity, and rationalization of selfish irresponsibility. 

The second point of clarification gets a bit long, so I’ll post it separately.

A Tyrone brought in the “guilt by association” trite used by the Left to get its operatives and proxies off the hook when exposed. Of course, association leads in most cases to guilt. Do you think that BHO used to meet with communist and America haters Davis, Ayers, Wright and other hyenas and jackals of that kind to talk about Hopscotch and Mary Mack strategies?

hahaha. Bob asks me to get an education? OK Bob, I should as I am a total maroon! Its ‘moron’ you moron.

Analyst, we do have some base for agreement.

Personally, I think either of the three ‘chosen’ candidates would be a disaster.  Of the three, Obama would be the ‘evil of 3 lessers’ and by far, the most diastrous. 

As to Iran’s intentions, I agree.  As to this war, I am not one that can accept the people who decided on this war were inept or didn’t know enough about it.  I don’t think for a moment they acted on ‘faulty intelligence’ or any of the other excuses people have made for them.  They knew that Iran would get involved should they attack Iraq.  They had to know that all of the ME would become involved to some extent.  That is the nature of war. If China decided to invade Mexico, many, many Americans, and South Americans would swarm into Mexico – some to help Mexico, some to either attempt to gain control or just make money.  That’s what is happening over there.

A defeat in Iraq would be good publicity for their cause, but would not do anywhere near the damage to this country that infiltration and bombings in this country would do, and the fact remains, this country is doing nothing to stop that – nothing.  Why would they remain in Iraq and face our army, when a dozen, 2 dozen men could wreck havoc in this country. We saw some horrors on 9/11, but there are more horrible things they could do, should they choose.  Think about it.  We accept the death of soldiers, as sad as that is, it is a fact, but there is more – much more.

Surely some people in the ME hate because of their religion, and the religion is being used to foment hate.  But if we are honest with outselves and think about the truth, we will realize many have reason to dislike the US even if they were not religious.  We have been meddling in their affairs in that part of the world for more than 50 years.  The CIA has been doing dirty operations over there for 50 years. 

I see the PResident of Mexico come to our country, speak to our Congress and make demands for the people of his country who are breaking our laws.  We see the new President coming here demanding and insulting this country, laughing that he ‘has relatives in the US illegally’ and when an amnesty is passed, he will tell us who they are.  One President stood in Austin some years ago and spoke to his people in the US and told them to ‘vote and when you vote, vote with Mexico in mind.’  I see our government kowtowing to and make concession for Mexico and its people we are being forced to support.  I don’t know about others, but this makes me very angry.  Think how angry it would make us if some foreign country were actually using dirty operations, and force to put someone in office in this country, to a larger extent than they are now.  Think how angry it would make us if some foreign country would arm dangerous groups to kill and harm US citizens.  That’s what we have done. 

Before we get the old ‘hate American’ political soundbite, which was thought up and repeated across this country, that isn’t hating this country.  That is simply pointing out where it has done wrong and hoping we will demand it gets back on the track.  That’s the job of citizens in a free society.

Good points, Ladytexan.  I, too, think the two-faced nature of those we elect to Washington posts is deplorable.  Yet as much as can be faulted that is NOT being done to secure U.S. borders (and it IS pretty bad), it is also true that there is a lot of “invisible” effort aimed at identifying/monitoring/tracking terrorist attempts in the free world, including the U.S. 

The disturbing part is that Filegate and the illegal monitoring and gag laws passed in the years afterward (to deny or restrict free speech that is not DNC media controlled) have publically demonstrated that the illegal collection and use of raw FBI file data against the honorable citizens and true grass-roots organizations of this nation, is a prime focus of the DNC that will not be prosecuted. 

And as much as I’d like to demand and receive tighter border security along Mexico, and in Canada at their ports of entry, I still also think that there is more effectiveness in monitoring communications and contacts than what can or should be trumpeted in the media.

And such is the nature of all critical war efforts. 

Yes, our politicians publically all knew that Iraq had WMD’s.  After going in, we knew that chemicals had been used by (Saddam) Hussein to kill or main entire towns, and we had found mass graves.  And by mid last year the media and military found documentation that WMD’s and a nuclear program were in Iraq and were trucked into Iran just before the battle began.  Interesting that the U.N. coalition delays were largely from the nations that had been clandestinely helping Iraq’s WMD programs, apparently to provide enough delay that the programs could be moved to continue. 

Further, Iran’s dictator makes it fairly clear in his public comments that he expects to see nuclear annihilation of the US and Israel in the near future.  But of course, the mainstream media won’t share those facts in their scorched-earth war on Bush.  And judging by comments from WH staff (that acquiesced to the media’s insistence on bad intelligence information supporting an Iraq invasion, strange as it might be that Clinton and Democrats on the SIC were somehow not lying, while Bush was), it appears either that the factual information proving chemical and nuclear WMD’s was not presented to WH staff as documented fact, or the President was willing to sacrifice public ratings in order to gain the time and strategic advantages afforded to us if Iran and other nations believe that we don’t know what we do. 

I’m hoping that it’s the second scenario.  And whether it is or not, I wonder… which candidate(s) would be most likely to give up public & media support in order to provide optimum protection for our nation’s future?  Which candidate(s) would be most likely to get a golden media “free pass” of support, for making a dangerously poor and self-serving decision that the leftist media elites and DNC want?

Lady Texan, IMHO There is this thing called North American Union and because of it those borders will not be closed. I am praying for our nation. I a, amazed that anyone living in America could actually believe that socialism is a better way. Keep up the good comments.

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Analyst, we are probably not going to find any common ground regarding this war.

Saddam’s gassing of his people didn’t seem to bother our government too much at the time.  This country knew what a cruel, bloody and despicable tyrant he was.  That didn’t matter as long as he was our junkyard dog against Iran.

Why would Iraq choose to hide it’s WMD in Iran since part of the reason we were friends with Saddam was because of the animosity between Iraq and Iran?

Mass graves – probably true.  Certainly some could be due to the gassing of the Kurds.  We do have to remember, however, Iraq was the recipient of much bombing during the Gulf War and it has been revealed that those ‘smart bombs’ were not so smart all the time.  I’m sure they are mass graves over there, for more than one reason.

Remember, ‘small children, pregnant ladies, grandmothers, Uncle Jose (with a bad heart), and tons of drugs make it across our southern border every day.  That doesn’t seem like much of a challenge for a terrorist and there are plenty of people we have already admitted to this country legally, and illegally,  who would help them.  Somehow sitting around listening to all the messages zipping around the planet in an attempt to stop someone crossing our very open borders, just doesn’t seem like the best approach.  That border is not just bad – it’s suicidal.

The news media certainly seems to be liberal on social issues – not really, but that’s another thought.  For months, this media beat the drums for war.  They carried the administration’s message and denounced any one who even asked a question.  The people who were supposed to report the news, quit reporting and began justifying the war.  It is far from liberal where this war is concerned.

Yes, we did see a lot about the prison, Abu Ghirab (sp) but let’s think about that.  What we saw in those pictures was more in the nature of sick behavior than actual torture.  Could that have been brought out so the facts of our actual torture could be buried?  The media kept us focused on that rather than the prisoners we shipped off to other countries, like Egypt, for torture.

Liberal press, not any more – if it ever was.

Yes, Pres. Clinton used Saddam as a boogeyman as well.  Ms. Albright speechified around the country, using the phrase ‘weapons of mass destruction’ in every other sentence.  It was just too obvious.

Just my thoughts—-

Well it seems America is going to get what it deserves and here’s why. Since the eighties social engineering in our schools has brain washed the future aka the present. White heritage, customs, family, God and culture was under assault then as it is now. Homosexuality, the promotion of black culture, affirmative action, hate crime bills, illegal alians, the assualt on christianity, the ACLU,the internet, pornography, filthy and immoral television shows, music( if you can call it that) drugs, lack of leadership politically, parental handtying, and the 1965 immigration law are showing its ugly head. I wonder what the “typical white” person see in Obama??? In retrospect Bill & Hillary were Black sympathizers who felt “their pain” and are now being slapped in the face by the very people they catered to. Who’s racist now? Wake up white america!and remember the golden rule is all you should practice and for the most part live by. Fight social engineering and the destruction of white ethics and culture. Don’t marry outside your race and remember how your parents raised you.You have every right to defend and promote white family culture, and God.

Aman, I agree on many things in your post.

Our children, and the adults have been brainwashed and conditioned.  It isn’t just the so called white people, however. There are many ways to destroy a people.

Just think of the damage done the black community by all the diet of hate they have been fed.

Think of the damage that has been done them by constantly telling them all the problems in their lives are caused by white people.  The so called black leaders, Rev Jesse, getting taxpayer money from our very own government over the years to be a rabble rouser and a preach hate.

Think of the damage that was done little black children when they were told they couldn’t learn as well as white children, so the bar was lowered for them – eventually for all children.

Think of the damage that was done by herding them all into the concrete ghettos in the city.

The black people were convinced it was because the government was trying to help them, instead the politicians wanted to make sure they controlled them, and that they didn’t achieve, and excell.  A controlling government cannot operate with educated, independent, strong minded people.

As for any slap in the faced to the Clintons, they were just using the black people, as every other politician has done for generations.  The fact is, though, it kinda points out the charade.  Sure Hillary wants to be top dog, no doubt about that, but push comes to shove, she will push the agenda forward just like all of them.

What white people see in Obama?  Some people accept the mantle of ‘white guilt’ that was put on them and they will ‘feel good’ voting for a black person.  They think it will make them appear more ‘intellectual’.  Some just because he is a Democrat and I can understand anyone being a non-Hillary voter.  But then I can understand anyone being a non-McCain voter.  The fact is, no one has been given a real choice here.  All three are totally unacceptable – maybe they just flipped a coin, who knows.  What I don’t understand is why everyone isn’t asking questions.

The media has brought up his association with 60’s radicals and a preacher who preaches very strange things.  Everyone in politics, especially Democratic politics, has had dealings with 60’s radicals – heck, the Clintons WERE 60’s radicals and Cheney and Bush just didn’t want to go to war.  I think that is all a smokescreen for why he has been groomed and annointed for President, and who is really pulling his strings.

“Think how angry it would make us if some foreign country were actually using dirty operations, and force to put someone in office in this country, to a larger extent than they are now.”

Lady Texan, what do you think is happening here now?  This culture is being completely dominated by United Nations policy via elected liberal democrats in this country. 

Also, check out Obama’s African lineage, and you will find that his great grandfather, Hussein, Onyango, from the traditionally Christian, Luo tribe, converted to Islam after serving in the British forces in World War I.  At that time he added the “Hussein” to his name.  Barrack Sr., after returning to Kenya from the United States served as an Economist in the transportation department in Kenya.  His cousin, Raila Odinga, (Kenyan election 2007, a blood bath) received strong support from the Muslim community there, and Barrack, Jr. campaigned heavily for him.

Combined all of this history with his ties to Frank Davis (“Uncle Frank” in his own book), the , now infamous, Reverend Wright, and the leader of the “Weather Underground” terrorist group, and you have the “Perfect Storm” candidate in Barrack Hussein Obama.

Wake-up America!!!

To the guy that said Bush and Cheney were draft dodgers.  Bush and Cheney were both given an honorable discharge from the military, what you are spouting is some BS that started floating around during the Kerry/Bush election in ‘04, it was a dirty, pathetic, attempt to discredit Bush.  It was shot down years ago, guess you missed it.  If you don’t like Bush, that’s fine, I don’t much care for him either, but don’t lie – unless you just didn’t know that it was already proven that they were given honorable discharges.

PLEASE READ IF YOU LOVE AMERICA . . .
Despite best efforts, there will always be selected groups of individuals who feel their needs/rights are not being addressed.  Marxists count on the discontent of these groups to create the chaos needed to advance the Marxist agenda.  Case in point: 
In his publication of Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky outlined his strategy of how leftist radicals should organize for MASS POWER.

    “Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future.”

DOES presidential candidate Barack Obama follow the Marxist/Socialistic theology?  YES, he does and to quote an Obama slogan:  “YES WE CAN” !

As POTUS this man is dangerous and race has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Thank you, Dianna.  It’s not just Obama…it is virtually the whole Democrat party espousing this tactic.  It is right out of the “Communist Manifesto” (which should, but won’t be, taught along side the US Constitution for contrast)  By the way, Saul Alinsky was one of Hilary Clinton’s mentors.  She did a paper on him in college, and he is one of her staunchest allies.

I am not a John McCain fan, and never thought I would ever be in his corner…but for me, this election is about damage control.  Although he is in lockstep with the democrats on global warming, the border issue, and so many others.  He at least says he is for lower taxes, a private health care system, and has a clue about foreign policy. 

For now, or at least the next term, we are in for a crumbling economy, more restrictions on free speech, i.e. “The Fairness Doctrine” (which Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have waiting in the wings for all the conservative talk show hosts), higher gas prices with NO promise of a near solution, because of the Global “Climate Change” hysteria, and no end to it in sight. 

None of the candidates have solutions to any of these issues.  They are all Senators, all they no how to do is create bureaucracy, and tax us to fund it.  However, John McCain may at least provide us with a band-aid, instead of a bucket for the flesh wound we are about to encounter.

Superfos – Yes, I do think there is a lot of influence from other governments in this country and Obama may be part of that.  I truly did not know much of his background, as I am sure many Americans don’t – and the media is not going to tell it.  He is their darling.  The fact that he knew and admired and was taught by 60’s radicals and a hate-filled preacher is just the tip of the iceberg, I’m thinking.  I think those things were allowed out in order to make people think that is the worst about him.  I don’t think so.
He frightened me the first time I heard the media pundits, after his debut speech, all make the same remarks, almost verbatim.  They gushed about how he was ‘presidential material’.  I’m serious, it was almost the exact same words.  That sent a chill down my back and I said at the time, he would be president.

We are also being systematically taken over by people from Mexico.  They have stated their goal and our government, and the media,  gives their President(s), the platform needed to recruit for this cause.  Pres. Bush even invited and allowed Vicente Fox to address the Congress to make demands.

So, yes, it’s happening, but I was truly thinking in terms of violence and chaos.  I think that is in our future, the South American gangs are not coming in droves just to deal drugs – I don’t think.

VP Cheney, in his own words, said he ‘had other priorities’ when it came to going to war in Vietnam.  Pres. Bush was hidden out in the Texas Air National Guard to protect him from going.  He was trained on obsolete planes that were never going to be flown over there.  That should give someone a clue.  Wake up, folks.  These people, all of them are corrupt and are selling our country down the drain.  I would hope we would not compromise our own intelligence and honor by repeating the untruths put out to support them.

These two men were never, ever, going to fight in Vietnam – we have to be honest with ourselves here.  We’ll never fix anything until we are willing to face the truth – however hard it might be.

Don’t they say in the 12-step programs that the first step is admitting there’s a problem?  We must do that.  This country needs a 12-step program to break the addiction to party politics and politicians in general.

As for Marxist using discontent – a story.

In the 60’s my Mother worked for one of the fledgling ‘War on Poverty’ programs.  She had to go to a seminar once.  One of the programs in the seminar was how to organize a march, and how to organize a sit-in.  They were told not to worry if they didn’t have enough people, with 2 days notice, they could have a couple of busloads there.

What we have to do is connect the dots.  It isn’t just the Communist, or the Islamist, not even the Mexicans.  These groups are being used to dismantle this country.  We already have no sovereignty, no border.  Without a border, a country is just a land mass – nothing else.

We have lost any identity as Americans – we are all hyphenated-Americans, don’t you know.

When someone poses the idea that this country is headed in the wrong direction, they are either called ‘hate America people’, or ‘racists’.

Yes, wake up, people.  Connect the dots – the lines are already there and are becoming more and more visible.  If we don’t begin looking closely, however, it will be too late by the time we see the big picture.

“As for Marxist using discontent – a story.”

Did you mean, this is a fabrication…or a tale?

Read the “Communist Manifesto” by Carl MARX.  It is no “tale.”

I don’t want to argue about Vietnam…everyone has a Vietnam conspiracy story.  The bottom line is nobody wanted to go there, and everyone who could got out of it.  The difference now, is we have a VOLUNTEER military.  There is no draft, yet. That will likely change if a democrat is elected and we continue our war effort.

I agree with you about Bush and his efforts to “North American-ize” our country.  His father was a globalist, and he is also.  The border issue is a mess, and nobody running now will fix it. 

There are many reasons to question Bush, the war is not one of them.  I don’t want to “re-hash” the arguments, however, there are a few things that seem to always get lost in the argument.  Do you remember the “Axis of Evil” speech Bush gave shortly after 9/11?  He named Iraq, Iran, and North Korea as the Axis of Evil in the “War on Terrorism”.  He also said this war would not be a conventional one, would be fought on many fronts and it would last beyond his administration.  The pentagon, of course knew that Iran and a number of other nations would be involved, but we already had infrastructure in Iraq, and plenty of motive to go there.  I have heard it argued that we had hoped that once Iran saw us making progress there, Iran’s public, (who is very discontent with the leadership there, would eventually rise up against it). 

Unfortunately, there are those in our own country who have lead a successful media attempt to undermine and stymie our efforts in the ME.  I don’t know what the answer is, it has become such a polarizing issue on both sides, that it’s very discouraging to say the least.  John McCain may not be the man to solve this crisis, but you can be sure the other two will turn it into something even more catastrophic…that is if you listen to what they say.

None of the candidates have a viable solution to our current situation, and I have connected all the dots.  Damage control…

BTW…I too noticed the ogling of Obama when he won his Senate seat.  It was one of the few bright spots for the Democrats that election season (those were the “Good ‘ol Days”.)  Just think, we had seven years of economic prosperity under Bush with a narrow Republican margin in both houses, despite the inherited Clinton recession and a devastating terrorist attack on our soil.  In just over one year of the Democratic takeover, our economy is crumbling, gas prices are soaring, and NOBODY is offering a viable solution.  Just higher taxes, more energy restriction, and total political insanity.

HELP US!!!

SuperFoes you stated: “John McCain may not be the man to solve this crisis, but you can be sure the other two will turn it into something even more catastrophic…that is if you listen to what they say.”

John McCain gave a speech re his Foreign Policy in Denver today.  Some interesting, thought-provoking words in his stance.

Like many other Republicans, I too have some doubts about McCain but am inclined to concentrate on what I believe are his positives.
McCain has consistently said that he believes judges should not legislate from the bench, that their job is to interpret the Constitution. McCain has consistently demonstrated that he believes that government should be smaller, not larger. He has consistently said put money and power and choice and control in the hands of people, not in the hands of government. The government’s role is to protect our nation against our enemies.

Personally, I will support McCain—the alternative (for me) is unthinkable!

(Diana)

Diana,

I, of course, will hold my nose and pull the lever for McCain, because of the reasons you stated.  What I’m afraid of, are the conservatives who will sit this one out, because, it is largely McCain, and a small portion of RINO Republicans like himself who have hamstrung this administration on so many issues for the past two terms (plus).  To those considering the “Sit on your hands option,”  think of the alternative(s).

Like I said, I never thought I would be a McCain supporter…but…these are the choices?  I’m getting my “McCain” bumper sticker tomorrow!

Ladytexan and Everyone Who Has Brought Up Bush/Chaney’s Vietnam Record,

GET OVER IT! They are not running, and McCain is definitely not “Bush III” as the Libs want the unwashed masses to think, he’s definitely his own man.

To the dolt that called McCain ‘song bird” and supported it with Wikapedia, ANY FOOL CAN ENTER DATA ONTO A WIKAPEDIA. If you were in my class, I’d flunk you for using such trash as a reliable source.

As for you Tyrone, no response regarding the true definition of “Black Liberation Theology”? BHO, heard hate for twenty years, as I mentioned Wright’s belief and behavior is widely know in theological circles, the problem is that most Seminary Prof’s are as liberal, or more so, than typical university professors, may God help us all. In Seminary we listen to their liberal drivel, remember it for tests and then toss it into the trash.

AMEN, KWH!!!

Mike… “maroon” is a “Bugs Bunny” expression… but hey you can be a moron if you like!

More proof the moonbats can’t do a simple google before posting. No wonder they believe everything the magic negro tells them!

“McCain has consistently said that he believes judges should not legislate from the bench, that their job is to interpret the Constitution.”

Not consistent.  Remember the “Gang of 14?”  He and thirteen other senators blocked the GOP from using the “Nuclear Option” to get just those types of judges confirmed.

Superfos – Oh, no, I know the communists are for real.  I was saying it is not the communists we need to fear, it is our own government.  No, I mean ‘story’ as illustration.  It wasn’t the communist that were fomenting discontent – it was our very own government.  When a government agency gives lessons on how to stage a sit in or protest – it can’t be blamed on the communists.
Certainly, the communist get/and got involved in many things, such as the Civil Rights movement, and the anti-war movement.  Our government has made good use of the fact that so many people think it is the communists stirring up the trouble, when many times it isn’t.

Yes, I remember the ‘Axis of Evil’ speech.  I thought it was just more bombast.  There was so much of that going on at the time.

My doubts about this President’s desire to protect this nation began on 9/12.  By the morning of 9/12, the borders of this country should have been sealed up tight and everyone here illegally should have been warned to leave immediately.  At the same time, our government should have begun picking them up.  We had just been attacked by terrorsts for goodness sakes.

I was in agreement with going after Bin Laden as I believed and don’t have a reason to doubt, that he had a part in the attack.  Soon, however, once an oil consultant was installed as President of Aghanistan, it became, ‘Bin Laden, who?’.  The President said he wasn’t important.
Didn’t that concern anyone else?

Then we have speeches all over the media, all day and night, about how dangerous Iraq is and that they are terrorists, etc., etc., and we are going to attack them – still we leave our borders open.

Rather than doing rational things to protect this country, this soil and its people, they began passing some very questionable laws to be used against the people.

Now all this was done with the help of the so-called Democrats. Oh, they shuffled up to the microphone and said they were ‘duped’.  Make no mistake they knew what they were doing and were simply playing their part in the charade.

Does anyone actually think that Obama or Hillary will bring those troops home?  Of course not.

The fact this war is not going as advertised, cannot be blamed on the people of this country or the media.  It was the biggest cheerleader for the war and has been quite helpful in not printing truths about it.

But if people feel, that what is going on, as in the ME, is wrong and is doing such damage to our country, and to others, should they simply keep their mouths shut?  How can anyone with a conscience do that?  Is it not our duty as citizens of a free society to speak up when something is so wrong?  Or are we supposed to say, ‘well, I’m sure the PResident and all those men would never do anything to hurt this country?’ and take them on faith?

How can we have faith in them when we see them deliberately giving away our country and our jobs.  I remember Pres. Bush making a speech that he wanted to give money to corporations already off shore, ‘so they could be more competitive in the world market’.

While we are supposedly fighting for our country in the ME, we are giving it away, piece by piece?

That’s the big picture I see.

I didn’t bring up the PResident and VP’s military record – someone else did.  But when I hear someone say they both served honorably, I have to respond. 

Hopefully, the government has left us a way to write-in a candidate.  If so, I will write in Ron Paul.  If not, I will have to vote for McCain, but I will have to hold my nose.

Re:  The Gang of 14 was a group of seven Republican and seven Democratic senators who kept the Senate from plunging into a battle over the role of the filibuster.

The group formed after Senator Majority Leader Bill First warned that if the Democrats continued to BLOCK UP-OR-DOWN VOTES on some of President Bush’s judicial nominees, Frist would use what became known as the “nuclear option,” which would limit the ability of the minority to filibuster. The issue went on for months and threatened to end what FEW bipartisan efforts existed between the two parties

At the last moment, the 14 senators came together and agreed that the seven Republicans would not support Frist’s “nuclear option”—and the seven Democrats agreed to no longer block three previously filibustered Bush nominees and pledged to consider the filibuster of future nominees only under “extreme circumstances.”  One thing that most of the 14 senators had in common was a willingness, at times, to put partisanship aside and work for a compromise. That’s what brought the “Gang of 14” together and personally I don’t think that bipartisanship deserves the bad name it has been given.

I also don’t consider that McCain’s action as one of the Gang of 14 discredits my statement that “McCain has consistently said that he believes judges should not legislate from the bench, that their job is to interpret the Constitution.”

In my opinion, we have been given 3 options, all of them the same. No matter who we vote for we get problems, disaster. John Dewey, I believe was put over our education in the early 40’s. He was a Marxist. Since then our children have been force fed socialism. It has taken many years but it looks like we now have been given 3 choices and all of them are the same. May God help us.

Now you think Cheney is running? Go to the nearest mental health clinic, you’re obviously delusional!
The Candidates thus far are:
Barack Hussien Obama aka Choom-Gang
Hilary Rodham Clinton- aka Hildabeast or Hitlery
John Sydney McCain- aka John McCaint

Please not that George W Bush nor Dick Cheney are running this election.

On the “Axis of Evil” and the threat posed by Bin Laden over the last two decades, keep in mind that Bush’s comments at any point in time can only be as balanced and accurate as the information he is being fed… and withheld. The known documents on radical Islamic terrorism seem to support that Bush has been deadly serious in his statements on the Axis of Evil, and that those comments were made in a confident hope that our citizens would comprehend and understand what we are fighting, and support it for the long haul that it would take.  Alas, the media considers defeating the Republicans (at any cost) to be more important than the security of our nation. So they have worked to undermine and mock even the President’s strengths in the war on terror, just as the Clinton appointees have continued to do from within the State Department and other Administration departments.

There are several important books that are authoritatively footnoted, which the media pretends do not exist because they reveal too much that the media does not want the general population to understand.  One of the latest books can be found by googling “The Day of Islam -
The Annihilation of America and the Western World”.  In essence, it compiles the documented proof we already have, that Iraq and al-Qaida have long been fervently planning multiple nuclear explosions in American cities… and are nearly ready to execute. 

(Thus the FBI’s latest warning released to law enforcement just today.)

“The Day of Islam” also offers a full translation of the “fatwa” — the religious order bin laden received in 2003 — which “grants al-Qaida permission to kill 10 million Americans by way of nuclear weapons.”

Ladytexan is right: we’ve done foolishly little to secure our borders.  We do not comprehend that we are battling (weakly) to even exist in 5 years as an America that we can still recognize. 

Given our 3 possible candidates for who’s in charge when the next 9/11 events hit, which one of the candidates can be counted on to respond with any semblance of effectiveness and sanity? Since no-one but those 3 have any chance at winning, it’s important for American-loving voters to choose the lesser of the evils – not neglecting or wasting their votes to “make a statement”.  If we vote poorly, we may be paying for our own deaths with the coinage of our own foolishness.

Good post, Analyst—

Many Americans seem to have forgotten that it was the terrorists who openly declared war on the United States. As far as the Iraq war is concerned, every intelligence agency believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, and post-invasion reports concluded that Saddam maintained the capability to produce WMDs on short notice. There was abundant evidence of contacts between Saddam’s regime and al-Qaida and other terrorist groups. Given Saddam’s hostility to the United States and his neighbors, as well as Saddam’s stonewalling of the United Nations, American leaders had every reason to believe Saddam posed a grave threat.
Whatever the reasons for going into Iraq, that is where international terrorists have converged to fight their war against the United States. Pulling out of Iraq will not stop the terrorists’ war on us, but only allow them to claim a huge victory as the “war on terror” shifts to another front.

There are several reasons I will vote for John McCain as president—his stance on withdrawal from Iraq and the threat from Islamic extremists are just two of these reasons.

Regarding the posts made earlier about the control the Clintons and politicans use to control not only blacks but minorities abroad; I feel as though race and history are so twined together and people use their perspectives with their communities (or whats left of them) and without respectful debate we are all left with confusion and hateful turmoil.

I consider myself a multi-cultural American, born of a German/French mother and an African American/Cherokee Indian father. I would never denounce either of them because they are my parents. I learned to focus on pride in who you are in the CULTURE in your geneology.

The problem today seems to be that African Americans that fall under the same category as KKK members and any who are pro unitary race, are ignorant in their stance becasue it leads to actually more degredation for themselves and their people. If your caucasian you should be damn proud of it and if you decide you want your family to stay that way its not racist unless the reason is because of hate. The same goes for andyone of any other culure. If you wanna marry someone of a mixed race do it because you love the person or because it doesn’t matter what background she/he is. You should be able to decide for yourself and either decision should be respected. We’ve lost all of our sovereignty in this country. We’re all free (today it doesn’t seem that way) and should be able to make decisions based on our own prowess.

Off of a quote I once read and forgive me i’m paraphrasing but they said that politician use their ways to “box” people into categories so they can be easily controlled. Basically if you let someone tell you who you are you’ve already lost yourself.

With this quote its not to offend but to make a realization that not just with African Americans but every person in America there are those who are respectful human beings in all colors, and then there are those who degrade themselves and people like them.

” There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs – partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his greivances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”

-Booker T. Washington (1911)

Tyrone, if you persist in looking back in hatred, your future will be hatred.

Justin, some excellent remarks, expecially quote by Booker T. Washington who no doubt would enjoy Bill Cosby today.

LadyTexan,
If communist run our government, then what? It is the leftist and liberals that force our government into every single aspect of our lives.

Most Republicans, Conservatives support Federalism, although some recently are confused with less is more concept of Federalism. If you fear our government now, think what-if Obama and Marxist crew get ahold of it?

Good comments many. We can, we must, we should openly talk about Obama’s Communist Komrades. The entire nation must know in the future his background, including supporting of Hamas in Chicago, Communist support systems as well. He has set in a church of Marxist hatred ideology for 20 years. And there is much more than 30 seconds of hatred spewing forth from his so-called Marxist “spiritual” advisor “rev” Wright. A former Muslim that supports Nation of Islam racist leader Farrrackhan. A man who went willingly to Libya to meet with Khadafi, a murderering thug tyrant of innocent civilians that oppresses his people. The Dr. Evil of Islam who has iconic women agents protect him.

LOL… this is like a comic book parody. The Looney Left!

Cliff,

Keep up the great work!

You know it is making a difference when all the snakes slither out from the darkened corners of our nation.

Those who hate America and are blind to all the good this nation has stood for despite mistakes.

Tyrone and leftist probably forget the sacrifices of the first “white” soldiers to die so blacks may be “set free” in America. Over 300,000 whites died so blacks could be set free. IT was from this war that Memorial Day was founded. But the politically correct crowd and those on the left who hate America can only see thru one blind eye.

I love all Americans, brown, blue, pink, green, black, white and inbetween. The only side being hateful and divisive are the Demon-crats. As they divide us all based upon our physical attributes instead of seeing in our hearts.

I support McCain because he is pro-life! He is pro-Offense on terrorist! He is pro-Victory! He is pro-budget cuts! He is pro-small government!

Obama, who said it would be a “punishment” if his daughter got pregnant would continue the slaughter of babies in our nation, including the highest rate of blacks.

People in America need to wake up. Voting for a Communist mentored, angry, hateful, Marxist, Islamic supporting ideologist, only 7 years after 9/11 is beyond words. Who, in their right mind the day after the WTC attacks would be voting for a Marxist, Islamic born, man by the name of Barack Hussein Obama?

When running as President. All issues are on the table! Including background and associations! Especially when the candidate has no experience! None! Zilch! No foriegn policy, no business, no entreprenuial background, no actual work as a lawyer in courts, no experience in the Senate creation of bills. The man is a big fat zero of nothingness voting “present” over 130 times instead of taking sides. He has avoided responsibiility all of his life. Except when it came to writing about himself… hmmm, on a 40,000 stipend in Bali for two months. Oh, what a tough life he has had.

Michael, you probably misunderstood what I was trying to say – my fault.

Yes, we have the communists trying to get their piece of the pie, and interferring.

The fact is, though, that it isn’t only communism that is pushing the things in this country that are destructive.  It is corporatism and the unholy alliance between government and business.  Communism is being used or allowed to flourish to help bring about their goal.

While it may be that communism is preaching hatred between the races – but who benefits?  Well, certainly those of the Revs. Jesse, Sharpton and Mr. Obama benefits.  Corporations and politicians have a hard time controlling people who are united – they will ultimately benefit. 

In other words, the goal isn’t communism – it is globalism and a globalist government with corporations running it.

What I am trying to get across is that there really are no Dem vs. Rep, or left vs. right.  They have different rhetoric, to be sure.  Certainly some believe differently – on a personal level.  When it is stand up and be counted time, they are all voting down the line to destroy this country – all of them.

As for the Dem preaching hatred and division.  This President called people who were speaking out against illegal immigration – bigots.  He called the illegal immigrants, ‘hardworking people just looking for a better life.’  He called those speaking ill of Muslims – bigots -  sent Colin Powell to a Muslim meeting to assure them anyone speaking out against Islam were just bigots.

Conservatives are not running our government – that’s something we have to admit.

I think this administration, and congress, should go down in history as the ‘duped’ group.  The President was duped by poor intelligence and took us into a war that may very will bankrupt us and be so very destructive not only to this country – but the world at large.  Congress voted for it, because the President ‘duped’ them.

The fact is, any country in the world can, and I’m thinking most do, have some kind of biological weapons.  It doesn’t have to be some madman like Saddam.  So while we are tied up in Iraq – spending our great-grandchildren’s incomes, depleting our military,  destroying our sovereignty, any group who hates the US could bring it across.  Actually, there are probably plenty here already who would like to cause us problems.  Castor beans aren’t hard to grow.

What I don’t understand is how people can believe this President is so right on the invasion and occupation of Iraq – and see that he is so wrong on our border and illegal immigration.  The latter is much more destructive, in the long run, than any terrorists could be.  How can anyone accept that he has the interests of this country and it’s people in mind by invading a country, not having anything to do with 9/11, and yet see that he is allowing this country to be invaded by people who have the intention of taking back huge parts of it, and causing so much pain and problems for US families???  If the intention of those invading this country are allowed to become reality – it won’t matter what we do or have done in the ME – this country, as we know it, will be gone – maybe forever.  Certainly for generations to come.

Justin,

I appreciate your post, true equality is respecting each others cultures, but becoming totally “color blind”. The Rev.‘s Sharpton, Jackson and now Wright grow rich by fanning the flames of hatred. The demorats thrive on class warfare, keep’m poor and provide crappy educations and they will continue to vote for us

The great equalizer is education, but the demorats and their proxies the teachers unions want to maintain the status quo, it’s in their best interest. I pray that someday we have a voucher system, so that no matter where you live, or what color you are you can get a quality education. Plus, I’d love to see the liberal Universities, putting their very large endowments, providing scholarships to quality private schools and in college grants (Harvard’s is $30 billion!).  In this manner you can break the cycle of poverty, so that the poor, whether inner city, Indian Reservation, or Appalachian can have access to quality educations from elementary school to graduate school. Though the Elites, fear having to deal with we “gun toting Bible thumping” regular Americans.

Enough from my soap box for now.

KWH,

This is not only the Dem causing the problem, think ‘No Child Left Behind’.  That’s the idea of this administration and has been a total disaster. 

I am very serious in that I just don’t see the vouchers as helping our education system.  I’m open to someone explaining it.

ladytexan,
your refernce to corporate America and the American government is so true it begins to piss me off thinking about it. Here we all are debating about issues that concern us becuase it affects this country and our childeren’s future and at the same time the corp/gov’t juggernaut continues to screw us all until they have complete control. It is difficult to convince most Americans the truth becaue they were bread to trust the government and the ‘corporate American Dream’ and are too distracted by Enews! and Media Matters and BS news 24/7.

The U.N. to me isn’t what it says it is. Since its development in the 50’s it has had one goal of putting power in unelected (UNELECTED!) officials who rake in million to billions of dollards from countries all over the world taking with them their soveriegnty and economies. For example this Law of the Sea Treaty is supposed to regualte oil drilling. I’m certainly not an expert on the bill but have read most of it and correct me if I’m wrong but telling American fishers where to fish, military ships where to dock and allowing foreign boats to go closer and closer to American borders. Its a soveriegnty travesty waiting to happen.

Sorry to ramp away from topics but I must ask everyone who has commented here and who will if they have watched the video “Loose Change” and if they could give their view on not only the credibility of this video but how it makes our government/corporate elities look. After watching it I couldn’t hold back my emotions because I was seeing interviews of true Americans, firefighters, volunteers, policemen, men, women, who fought for the lives of their fellow Americans. To think that all that was in vain because of some global plan to ruin this beautful country makes me irate. I just can’t stand it anymore and if any of this can be made public so Americans can wake up and question the assholes in office who have been screwing up the country that our families in the past have lived and died for that would bring my spirits back to where it was a time ago.

Sorry to vent but I love this country and while I might not even like some of the people here I respect them and wish them the same freedom that I want in life.

Justin, thank you. 

I remember my parents talking against the UN.  At the time, they said it was designed to essentially usher in the One World Government.  Yes, they were talking about that way back then.  Many people laughed when it was mentioned.  I have had people tell me The Tri-Laterial Commission, and the Council of Foreign Relations didn’t exist.  Now they are part of our everyday language.

Remember what they do first to keep us from knowing something is going on is to pretend those mentioning it are just kooks.

If we look back at history, we can see things unravelling for the US from some time back.  I think each President was put in office to do something to further this agenda.  With Nixon, I think it was the opening of China,

Johnson (don’t know)

Carter – the giving away of the Panama Canal – both ends now controlled by China and it is being enlarged for bigger ships.  China has ports in Mexico.  This is the need and the reason for the Superhighway.  Once again, remember the media pundits and one of the candidates said it was a figment of Ron Paul’s imagination. (Anytime you hear that- look deeper).

Reagan (I liked him) – was the touting of free trade, and the amnesty for illegals (causing the flood to begin) – not sure what else.  He was a cheerleader for Nafta.

Clinton – probably many things – but NAFTA certainly.

This President – the list is too long – but the championing and protection of the illegal invasion, CAFTA, the championing of outsourcing, etc.

These are just the things we can see, and it has taken time to be able to see them in the light of globalization.  Every administration and congress, regardless of their makeup has moved this along.

I think of soldiers fighting in Iraq ‘to protect this nation’ and the politicians are giving it away.  I hope when this war is finished (as much it will be), they will come home for good to a US, and not just a part of the North American Union.  I hope their jobs won’t be taken by an illegal or some HB worker.

A couple bits of historical trivia:

1. It’s fine to say that Barack’s communist associations are not the be-all-end-all of his policy views, but when you look at his policy views and votes in the Senate, he’s at the very least a socialist, if not a full fledged communist.

2. I’m sick of conservatives being called nazis.  Not only is it utterly stupid and offensive, it’s also not factually correct.  From a policy standpoint, the nazis are SOCIALISTS, i.e. they wanted a bigger government that controlled people’s lives (and views) from cradle to grave.  Nazism is conservatism’s mortal enemy, as is communism.  The racist component of nazism makes it unique from communism, but even then, you’re more similar to a bigotted southern democrat than you are to a conservative republican.  The only former member of the KKK I know in the U.S. congress is a democrat, (Robert Byrd, WV). 

3. Communist-Athiest governments have managed to kill more people than any other form of government in the history of the world.  Reference government sanctioned murder by the Soviets, Communist Chinese (twice), Communist Romanians, the Kmir Rouge in Laos, the Communist Vietnamese, and we’ll throw in the national SOCIALISTS, (The SS was more connected to a bizarre combination of Bhudism/Hinduism/paganism than any other religion, just google Heinrich Himmler), and you can see why Americans should be so scared of Barack Obama.  He’s closer to a communist than any other candidate by far, and his solution for every problem is for the growth and intrusion of government into every aspect of your life, (except the military, of course, which he has declared he would slash/decimate/etc.).

So I declare that Barack Obama is more similar to a nazi than is John McCain.  There.  It’s official.

There is a possibility he does have communist leanings – but if communism were all there was to it – it would be better.

It is globalism – and communism is simply a tool to that goal (in my thinking).

While the people running our government today aren’t Nazis as such, I don’t think that is exactly a reference to their ideology as much as their heavy handed ways.

When someone uses things like ‘bigotted Southern Democracts’, it takes away a little of the credence of what they are saying.  To lump all Southerner Democrats into that category is as much bigotry as any other utterance. To suggest there were no bigotted Northern Democrats or Bigotted Northern/Southern Republicans, makes no sense.

Realizing I was raised by a Texas Republican family, and understand conservatism from the ‘olden days’, this administration and this President cannot claim any title to conservative. 

The best thing we can do in this country – in fact if we don’t – we’re are lost – is stop standing in the cheerleading section for one party or the other and stop making allowances for a politician because he/she claims to be one party or the other.  Why don’t we try standing back, putting our own prejudices aside and look at the actions and the talk of a politician and judge simply as wrong or right.

The politicians very wisely put titles on themselves as conservative or liberal or Rep or Dem.  That gets and keeps people locked into a certain voting pattern – without a lot of thought to the real person.  It is no different than when the Dem side used to try to tell the old people every election that they would loose their SS if they voted Republican.

We will not loose our country if we wipe the labels from in front of our eyes and began looking at the politicians themselves and the fruits of their actions – all of them.  In fact, it is the only thing that will save us.

Think about how much time we spend debating labels – Rep vs Dem, liberal vs conservative, Communism, Nazism, whateverism?  WE spend more time discussing that than we do looking at, discussing, and thinking about what the politicians are doing, and the consequences of what they all (together) have done to this country.

Just wonder how many members of Congress are members or recipients of donations from LaRaza – you know ‘The Race’? 

Or Mecha? You know the group whose goal is to take part of the US?

Lulac?  Another racist organization.

How about NAACP – for Colored people?

How much money does/has Jesse Jackson gotten for his organization so he can spew racial hatred and rabble rouse?

How much money does our government give to these organizations?

Why mention just the KKK?  There are lots of other organizations we could discuss.

Ladytexan,

You make some excellent points, our government has continually failed us, in so many ways. That’s why the answer is smaller, less intrusive, federal government. The one thing the Confederates were right about was the right of States to secede from a government that is not looking out for the best interest of the state’s citizens. They were very wrong about slavery, but that that really had little to do with the war and it’s causes, money and power, just like every other war.

Vouchers cause competition, making public schools improve or die. As far as “No Child Left Behind” test scores in my home state have improved dramatically, it just makes teachers and schools accountable (Plus Ted Kennedy was part of the bill to, I’m a conservative, but he is in my prayers. I would not wish brain cancer on another human being).

Slavery was an abomination, no one can defend it in any way.

You are right the South was wrong about slavery – but so was the entire country.  God forbid, it was legal!  Slavery may have been the reason some people up North fought and it may be the reason the government tried to use.  It was about making the Southern states remain in the union.  The slaves were an afterthought –

Yes, they say vouchers will cause competition and public schools will improve.  We do have to look at what it might do in light of past history. 

First off, the people who already have their children in private schools will now have that subsidized by taxpayers.

I have always thought the promise of school vouchers and ‘faith-based’ welfare was one of the reasons the church folks went for Pres. Bush.  More a matter of money than faith.

Then think about the number of children of the illegals who are Catholics.  WE will be paying for millions of children of illegals to go to Catholic school.  I’m sure the Catholic Church loves that.  If Kennedy pushed for this, this might be part of it. 

I understand Bill Bennett has some kind of educational program that taxpayer are already paying for for ‘some’ children.  He will be very happy to become richer.

There are many children who simply will not have access to private schools, geography being one reason. 

The best teachers will leave public school and go to private schools, where the pay will probably be better, probably.  I’m thinking the environment will be.

How many charlatans will open private schools, siphoning off taxpayer dollars and giving no education or worse??? A lot.  How many ‘private’ schools will be teaching hate?  That’s not out of the realm of possibility.  Think schools run by hate-filled Muslim leaders, schools run by La Raza.

With our global economy, it is possible, any country, any faith, any idealogy will be able to open schools here, indoctrinate kids, and the taxpayers will pay for it.  Think about the citizens that will be turned out should this happen, and we know it is possible, with absolutely no teaching of patriotism, American history, traditions and culture?

Public schools will not close.  Some may close, necessitating longer transportation for children – that means more money.  Personally, I think what will happen is once the rich kids, the church kids, and some of the kids who have access to private school leave, the cesspool that is the public school system will get worse. Rather than lifting the quality of education, we will be breeding more problems.

But what happens when a school doesn’t improve, and the children have no where to go?  What happens when a school dies and the children have no where to go?

Let’s be honest, every child will not be able to go to private school – no way.  So we will continue to support schools that are getting worse and worse, turning out children with less and less education – and hope.  The children will have the leftovers of educators.  Many of these will be the children with no advocates for one reason or the other – the forgotten children.

Why not take that money and make the public schools accountable for what they do – now.  There is no reason we can’t.  Why not ascertain the good teachers and give them a raise and some help, pay enough to attract good educators, and demand performance.

This is a wonderful thing for the rich, or middle income people, for the churches, for the people who provide educational materials and programs.  It will be a disaster for, I’m thinking, 50% of the children in this country.

How many ‘wonderful’ programs have turned out to be a payoff to campaign contributors or vote buying diasters?  Public housing, government guaranteed housing,  food stamps, medical programs, even SS disability to some extent, farm subsidies,  and on and on and on.  They have all cost the taxpayer’s mightily, and many of them did more harm than good.  But it built the bureaucracy up, gave contracts to campaign donors, got corrupt politicians elected – over and over again.

If we are honest with ourselves, we have to admit it will be a very expensive disaster – expensive in so many ways.

Just food for thought—-

KWH – I’m thinking I misinterpreted some of your post as to Sen. Kennedy and the school bill.  He helped with the ‘No Child Left Behind’, didn’t he?

As to test scores rising, if they are like the school district where my grandchildren go, the scores should be up. 

Are they telling when they announce those scores that the kids were tutored on the tests only for days before the tests?  That they were given practice tests?  Those are the little things that get left out when our government gives us all the ‘good’ news.

They may be doing great on the tests, but are they getting an education?

Ladytexan

They are not getting what is most important in school… the ability to use “critical thinking”. So many young people today spew the nonsense embedded into their brains by left wing teachers. Global Warming is a prime example. They are being brain washed to accept the “group think” and not to reason for themselves.

BobM – I agree totally.  But it’s not just the left wing.

My grandson (8) told me last year that the Iraqis attacked the US and that’s why we were fighting them.  I explained that wasn’t true and asked who told him – ‘My teacher told us that.’

While I do think kids need to learn how to think for themselves, forgive me, when I hear ‘critical thinking’ I remember an interview I saw some years ago.  This was a person who had been hired to develop a ‘critical thinking’ program for a large school district.

She said, ‘The first thing we must do upon their entering kindergarten is begin wiping out everything they have learned at home, and replacing it with ‘critical thinking’.  Not that I’m against kid being allowed to develop this, but I’m kinda thinking, for the school system, it might be a euphemism for ‘mental conditioning’ or ‘right thinking’ – as opposed to independent thinking.

Ladytexan… yes “critical thinking” is an over used, and often a hijacked expression, but the the truth is i’s very much needed. My kids have been thrown into those environments, and I’m proud to say that they don’t buy any of it. All you need is few good years at home, and you can send the little ones out into this world and be assured they won’t buy into the BS hype.

BobM – From your lips to God’s ear.

As long as mine has a living Nannie, hopefully my grandchildren won’t either.

But the fact is, yours are the exception and they will have to deal with, live with, be governed by the majority.

We do agree on the thinking part – sadly lacking.

I have five children.Only two of were actually in a public school. The two oldest. My wife sacrificed to put them in private school. The teachers and principles of those schools were very poorly paid. They two kept their children in private schools. My oldest son spent two weeks and one year in public education. His first two weeks of school were in the public school kindergarten. They taught him to dance and play games and take a nap on a rug on the floor.
He came home one day and asked my wife, “When are they going to teach me how to read?”. At that time my eldest was in second grade. We took them both out of public ed. Their principal told me that my daughter would never be anything but mediocre. The son finished the kindergarten year able to read from the Bible almost as good as and better than some adults. The daughter went the rest of the way through school with a 4. average.
The public ed system is a disaster. Every year I have had to pay taxes to educate the public and I don’t mind saying that I begrudge every penny. One teen came to at Church and said Hey, I don’t have to take finals this semester. I asked why and he told me that He had missed less than 3 days of school so that qualified him to skip finals. I have a book in my library titled CHANGE AGENTS IN THE SCHOOLS by Barbara Morris. It is very enlightening. I picked up a book at the local college library in their educational section. I read “we are changing the social structure of our country”.
If the grade curve is lowered the scores go up. The education goes down.
Don’t misunderstand me, I don’t believe all teachers are bad or can’t teach or are even socialists but the things that I have seen and heard here in my own state are not conducive to build my faith in public education.

It’s very interesting how the school system is there like the government is supposed to be there. From my experience I remember my mother homeschooling me for kindergarten because she didn’t want me taking naps and learning things I already did at home. I would wake up every morning for a few hours and interact with her weather the topic was reading, history, coloring etc.

I entered public school excelling beyond my peers especially with reading (I thank Barestein Bears) but as elementary past, middle came and gone and high school as well the system seemed to care less and less about how I did. Granted I could of applied myself a bit more but I noticed some teachers and almost every administration more and more cared less about my future unless I was a certain ‘type’ of student.

By high school I remember being fed up with it not because I didn’t want to learn but because the system I was getting my education was corrupt and lazy and had no drive to help anybody who hadn’t any ‘potential’.

It makes it very difficult for the awesome teachers because they’re under paid and usually only teach a particuliar field. The effort to educate kids needs to be from every position in the school and the district.

My mother and I compared classes that were available when she went to school and when I went and we both noticed that she had atleast twice as many choices. Varying from modern dance to specific engineering fields. I had none of those. So you can imagine how frustrating it is to WANT to learn when nothing is available and the system doesn’t really care what you do. When your 18 and under your not as mature, driven, responsible or wise as you are later in the real world. That is why I feel it is so important to have teachers, staff, district and local people who love their jobs and understand their neighborhoods and communities.

On a side note I just remembered how the Rev. Wright wants reperation checks for African Americans. I truly believe those checks should go to their homes and communties and schools, not themeselves.

Justin, I understand and agree with much of what you said.

We have 3 children.  There is 6 years between each one.  The Good Lord knew I could only handle one baby at a time.  For that reason, though, I spent many years as the mother of a school child.  I volunteered running the libraries, reading programs, teacher’s aid, and chaperone for everything, etc.  I got a pretty good view of the school system – more than one school system.

In a small town, if you were wealthy or had parents who were important, or an athlete, you were known and they paid attention to you.  If you were a troublemaker, you were known and they paid attention to you.  Then there was a huge group of kids, they were nobody to the school, even if they were very good students and excelled,  they just moved through the system as a faceless mass.

Our youngest, and only girl, did go to private school for 4 years – and I can’t say her academic education was better, but she did get a good education and good ethics, good study habits, a good foundation.

There are some saints out there attempting to teach, but there are many who should be helped into another profession.

Now we are going to part ways on the reparations.  No one living today owes anyone else living today, reparation for anything.  The taxpayers of this country have paid and paid dearly for programs to help black people, black students and whatever other group the government wanted to confiscate money from taxpayers in order to buy their votes.  The only ones it helped were the politicians and bureaucrats.  It will be the same if they come up with the extortion scheme called reparations.

The worst thing that happened to the black people was to believe the government when they began telling them they weren’t capable of doing for themselves – that their children couldn’t excell.

The black people are a strong group, they have survived slavery, reconstruction, segregation, and many are coming out of the hell the government put them in under the guise of civil rights programs.  Let’s don’t ruin any more by making them beholden to the government – or anyone else.

Ladytexan-
Excellent point regarding the reparations. Especially because the bill for it I believe is referred in the 1800’s which has little to do with people today. If anyone deserves reperations its Native Americans but we all know that their culture is nothing like it was when it taken over by Americans and they seem to be payed off with their discounts, scholarships, limited land and casinos.

It isn’t very realistic to give reperations but I feel perhaps the government should create a completely new approach to America and repair ALL communities and schools that are under a particuliar bar.

I believe you should work for what you earn but some communities, black, white, latino, asian etc., weren’t given a chance and are results of underfunding, insufficient law enforcement and reckless community upkeep.

These are the places in America that breed crime, drug abuse, AIDS, and illegitimate childeren, and gang wars. Trust me no gang member would choose that life if their living in a community that is taken care of. They’d have no customers to sell drugs to because they’d have better things to do.

I remember Obama saying he didn’t want to give out checks but wanted to fix up the communities, as long as its EVERY poor or bad communtiy I have no problem helping pay for it.

Justin, I think your heart is in the right place, and I want this country ‘fixed’ as much, possibly more than the younger generation (don’t know your age, but these days everyone is younger than me, it seems).  I do remember a better, more law abiding country. I remember a country where people had dignity, self-respect – even if they were poor.  I remember people who would not take government money. 

What we must do when we think about ‘fixing’ anything is look at this government’s past record.  It is dismal.  Much of the fact these, blacks, live in ghettos is because of the government’s ‘help’. 

I have never been to any of the high rise housing projects in the big cities, but I would not subject any human being to living there – even when they were new.  The government was smart enough to know that if you confine people in such close quarters, pay them NOT to work, give them just enough to keep them from starving, and constantly preach to them it’s all someone else’s fault – you are going to have trouble.  This was, I’m thinking, making sure the black people didn’t have a chance.  I don’t think anything else the government freebie will fix it.

Money is not the problem, this government is the problem, it has thrown good money after bad at this problem for over 40 years.  It has gotten worse.

What people need in this country is jobs, jobs that will enable them to support their families, a good education, and be taught self-respect and responsibility.  That is true not just for a minority – I see this all the way up the income level.

It isn’t just the black people having more and more illegimate children these days, and fathers and mothers deserting their children.  It’s an epidemic.

Blacks didn’t have a chance because they believed the politicians – whose goal was to keep them forever dependent.

My solution, kick out all the politicians, write in someone for this election besides the ones that have been chosen for us.

Send the illegals home, and put the Americans back to work. Don’t let anyone tell you they are just taking the jobs citizens won’t take.  That is an absolute lie.  Check out the lawsuits by Mohawk, and Tyson.  Fortune had a good article about Pilgrim’s and their hiring practice.
  Also, I saw it with my own eyes in the poultry industry.  We were eating poultry, drinking milk, eating veggies (we could afford them then)  before the illegals came.  Black families were working, paying their own way, and were part of the communities until the illegals were hired and they no longer had jobs.

Clean up our education system – and I don’t mean allow upper income flight to private schools, paid for by taxpayers.  Think about what the politicians offering vouchers are really saying.  We can’t operate the public schools correctly, so we are going to keep them going, but offer vouchers to those who ‘can’ leave – it won’t be those who want to leave.  There won’t be enough private schools for everyone and because of location, everyone won’t have access.

The best way to fix our education system is for the federal government to completely withdraw and give it back to local and state operations.  Surely we could agree that a state, or a school district could more quickly identify the problems, put fixes in place, than some bureaucrat in Washington.

Then rethink every one of our trade deals and renegotiate them so the US will at least get a fair shake.

Any monies the government wants to use for subsidies, fixing communities, etc., should be used to encourage businesses to stay in the US, and businesses to start up in the US.  Instead this government gave money to companies already operating offshore to help them.  Let’s help the companies who want to stay here. 

The US could be a world leader in alternative engergy if we would start now, and it is something that would provide jobs, independence for the country, and for individuals.  Think about it.  That would help this country more than some politically orchestrated handout designed to make sure the people stay dependent.

You mentioned Indians, I do know a little about that – and just look at what the benevolence of this government did to them.

One of the biggest all time lies – ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help you.’

LadyTexan,

Bush and many Conservatives are in favor of allowing parents to select their schools. Another words, they’re in favor of school vouchers to free people to make their own choices.

While I agree with you on many issues. At the very least many Conservatives and Republicans favor a smaller govnerment.

And many hate the UN as much as we do.

And many hate the overstepping of boundaries by the UN and our own government.

regards