Accuracy in Media

Democratic presidential candidate and Senator Bernie Sanders has finally been exposed as the hard-core communist he is. It happened at the debate in Miami on Wednesday night, hosted by Univision and The Washington Post, and broadcast on CNN. On Thursday, CNN trumpeted the news from the debate that Sanders had refused to disavow his previous support for the Castro dictatorship in Cuba. Instead, he had reverted to anti-American nonsense while smearing a Democratic president named John F. Kennedy in the process.

As we have been saying for months, “democratic socialism” is just another name for communism.

Until that point, Sanders had been riding a wave of support from foolish Democrats who thought socialism was somehow different than communism, and that Sanders didn’t favor a dictatorship of any kind. He had spoken of socialism in places like Denmark. He was seen as the friendly face of “democratic socialism” with a powerful message of taking it to the so-called “one percent.”

But on Wednesday night, the real Bernie Sanders came through loud and clear.

Hard-core Marxists had been rallying around the Sanders campaign for months. Alan Maass, the editor of SocialistWorker.org, had said,“…the Bernie Sanders campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination has done more than anything else to bring the discussion of socialism into the mainstream.” Maass was ecstatic that “the opinion polls tell us that more and more people are identifying with socialism, or at least preferring socialism over capitalism…”

It was true. A poll of 1,000 likely Democratic voters by the American Action Forum (AAF) found that 57 percent answered “positive” to the question, “Do you think socialism has a positive or negative impact on society?”

This was happening because news organizations had not explained how socialism makes people poor and dependent on government—and murders those who get in the way of the Marxist planners. Hence, in the Fox News Democratic presidential town hall on Monday night, even moderator Bret Baier highlighted how Sanders is considered “honest and trustworthy” in opinion polls. This followed Sanders’ claims that he would control the national debt by giving people free health care and college.

During that town hall, when asked how he would get his proposals enacted into law, Sanders said, “I was the chairman of the Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs. Working with people like John McCain, Jeff Miller over in the House—he was chairman in the House Republican. We put together the most comprehensive veterans’ health care bill in the modern history of America, okay?”

A new health care bill was needed because the socialist VA health care system failed veterans. We have pointed out that Sanders’ pitiful performance as chairman of the Senate Veterans Committee came under serious scrutiny by CNN and other media for defending the VA bureaucrats, putting their interests above the veterans they are supposed to serve.

It’s true that Sanders, who had become chairman of the Senate Veterans Committee in 2013, had worked with Republicans to craft a bill designed to fix the problems. But after playing down the serious nature of the scandal, Sanders was forced to recognize, under pressure from Republicans, that the government-run VA health care system could only be saved by giving patients a private health care option.

We had previously reported how Fox News groveled to Sanders to get him to appear on the town hall. It took several more weeks to get Hillary Clinton to agree to appear. While Baier asked Mrs. Clinton some tough questions, the appeasement of Sanders continued. Baier failed to ask about such topics as Sanders’ membership in a communist Israeli kibbutz called Shaar Haamakim that was dedicated to mass murderer Joseph Stalin, and whose members celebrated May Day with red flags.

But during Wednesday night’s debate in Miami, the issue of Sanders’ support for communist totalitarian regimes was brought up. It will prove to be a major turning point in the campaign. Univision anchor María Elena Salinas said to Sanders: “In 1985, you praised the Sandinista government and you said that Daniel Ortega was an impressive guy. This is what you said about Fidel Castro. Let’s listen:”

Sanders: You may recall way back in, when was it, 1961, they invaded Cuba, and everybody was totally convinced that Castro was the worst guy in the world. All the Cuban people were going to rise up in rebellion against Fidel Castro. They forgot that he educated their kids, gave them health care, totally transformed their society.

The “they” Sanders was referring to was the anti-communist U.S. presidency of Democrat John F. Kennedy, who was determined to overthrow Castro. The evidence shows that Kennedy was killed by a Soviet-Cuban conspiracy involving Marxist “Fair Play for Cuba” member Lee Harvey Oswald. A Palestinian Marxist Killed JFK’s brother Robert.

Sanders, the independent-turned-Democrat, had shown callous indifference to the anti-communism that used to dominate the national Democratic Party. He seems oblivious to the evidence that Castro was involved in the assassination of President Kennedy.

Salinas asked, “In South Florida there are still open wounds among some exiles regarding socialism and communism. So please explain what is the difference between the socialism that you profess and the socialism in Nicaragua, Cuba and Venezuela.” Socialism is so successful in Venezuela that the currency is worth less than toilet paper, which is in short supply.

When Sanders failed to answer the question, Salinas shot back: “Senator, in retrospect, have you ever regretted the characterizations that you made of Daniel Ortega and Fidel Castro that way?”

This exchange then took place:

Sanders: I’m sorry. Please say that…

Salinas: In retrospect, have you ever regretted the characterizations of Daniel Ortega and Fidel Castro that you made in 1985?

Sanders: The key issue here was whether the United States should go around overthrowing small Latin American countries. I think that that was a mistake…

Salinas: You didn’t answer the question.

Sanders: …both in Nicaragua and Cuba. Look, let’s look at the facts here. Cuba is, of course, an authoritarian undemocratic country, and I hope very much as soon as possible it becomes a democratic country. But on the other hand… it would be wrong not to state that in Cuba they have made some good advances in health care. They are sending doctors all over the world. They have made some progress in education.

Except for the rather vague and misleading reference to Cuba being “an authoritarian undemocratic country,” it was noteworthy that Sanders had not one word of criticism for the Castro dictatorship.

Sanders talks a lot about non-intervention. In fact, however, Sanders supported NATO’s bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999, an illegal and unconstitutional war waged by President Clinton.

On the matter of Cuba, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was prepared, coming back during the debate to say, “I just want to add one thing to the question you were asking Senator Sanders. I think in that same interview, he praised what he called the revolution of values in Cuba and talked about how people were working for the common good, not for themselves. I just couldn’t disagree more. You know, if the values are that you oppress people, you disappear people, you imprison people or even kill people for expressing their opinions, for expressing freedom of speech, that is not the kind of revolution of values that I ever want to see anywhere.”

An anti-communist Hillary had suddenly emerged on the scene. We all know it’s about getting votes in Florida, but it was a decisive moment nonetheless.

The day after the debate, the Hillary Clinton campaign let loose, noting that Sanders “has a troubling history of admiration for the Castros.” The headline over the item on the Clinton-for-president website blared, “Bernie Sanders just refused to disavow his past support for Fidel Castro.” Among other things, Sanders had called Cuba “a model of what a society could be.”

Referring to the poll on Democratic Party support for socialism cited earlier, an editorial in Investor’s Business Daily asked, “How could average Americans of a supposedly mainstream political party throw their lot in with a creed that’s responsible for more human misery and poverty in the world than any other? It boggles the mind. Socialism, and its evil twin, communism, murdered well over 100 million people during the last century, a scale of slaughter unmatched in human history.”

The answer is that some people, like Sanders, deliberately try to separate socialism from communism, despite the fact that the father of both is Karl Marx. Analyst Trevor Loudon notes that so-called “democratic socialism,” as preached by Sanders, is simply a euphemism for socialism. “Socialism is the last stop on the road to Communism,” he notes. The Marxist dialectic is said to produce the final stage of communism through struggle or conflict.

Some people get confused because they think that Communist China has abandoned both socialism and communism in favor of capitalism. Those who doubt that China is still communist should take a look at the recent Wall Street Journal article entitled, “China’s Xi Jinping Puts Loyalty to the Test at Congress.” It’s all about enforcing loyalty to the Chinese Communist Party. The communists are using capitalism to strengthen communism. They consider it another phase the country has to go through to achieve the highest stage of communism.

One of Ronald Reagan’s favorite jokes was about two Russians walking down the street, and one asks, “Comrade, have we reached the highest state of Communism?” The other replies, “Oh, no, I think things are going to get a lot worse.”

This is the brutal and bloody record of socialism and communism.

Yet our media let Sanders run around the country talking about socialism being “democratic.”

Our media have tried to get around this question by framing the issue as one of “income inequality.” It’s just another term for Marxist class warfare.

Now we know that when Sanders talks about imposing socialism on the American people, he’s talking about a dictatorship. Thanks to Univision and anchor María Elena Salinas for bringing out the facts in this case.



Comments

  • MD

    He’s not a communist. He’s a socialist. That said, the man is not fit for such a job. No reason to make it seem worse. He’s bad enough without hyperbole .

  • IronChefSandwiches

    Kincaid’s constant misuse of words he obviously doesn’t understand is getting comical. In Kincaid’s muddled mind, Democratic Socialism = Communism. The simple, verifiable fact that this isn’t even remotely true makes EVERYTHING Kincaid says stupid and uninformed. Nice try, dummy.

  • AndRebecca

    Really? Why do the communist and very far left websites go for Sanders? Explain why they think he is a communist, please.

  • Richard Hellstrom

    All I can say is – Operation Northwoods – In Some sense of normalcy Kennedy was Cuba’s best friend and only a few people know how he protected the Cuban people from being mowed down by U.S. troops as happened in Panama !

  • AndRebecca

    Do you know that Marxism is an umbrella word for all the Left-wing isms, from national socialism to socialism to communism. Marxist ideas have not changed since Marx, Engels and Lenin formulated them. The tactics of the movement have changed, and the Communists have made race issues tops in their attacks on Western Civilization. Bernie has made the race card central to his views as well, hasn’t he?

  • Ted

    What the hell’s the difference what Sanders’ political or economic persuasions are? He’s not going to be the Democratic candidate … any more than Cruz or Rubio will be the Republican candidate.

    Trump is worth a good laugh and Sanders is a breath of fresh air. Put ’em on the same “Independent” ticket … as “co-Presidents”!

  • RMThoughts

    What is hard to understand is this: How Kincaid can bash Sanders when Sanders and Hillary are two versions of the same socialism. His neocon mentors have declared they will vote Hillary, even Stalin, before voting for Trump. Shouldn’t Kincaid be supporting these socialist democrats who will be the candidate of his neocon wing of the GOP?

  • Steven Barrett

    Cliff Kincaid would be lost without having any Reds, real or suspected, to go hunting out for. It’s his daily diet. Cliff, head on up to Burlington, VT, a city Bernie served as its mayor for 8 years. Ask the city residents what he did to cause a commercial revival and efforts he took to prevent property tax hikes on the folks who could afford them the least, the elderly living on fixed incomes. The likely GOP nominee has no shame whatsoever for tossing old ladies out on the street thanks to using eminent domain for private purposes…to build a garage for his one-armed bandit addicts. Who’s the real socialist here?
    Hell hath no unspent fury as an ideologue ever fearful that his one motivating get out of bed cause will one day die away and he’ll be left talking and writing to thin air.I’m sure Bernie Sanders has regretted some of the support he gave in past years to long past reds and red-wannabes whose failures caused much misery. Sadly I never get the impression similar regrets are forthcoming from the most ardent supporters of Pinochet, the Somozas, the Shah, et al. They’re yours Cliff, all yours. BTW, inasmuch as the Castro brothers will never be able to wipe all the blood they have on their hands, don’t you think for a moment Sanders doesn’t know this and has some regrets of his own? Or does the spirit of forgive and forget only extend to the people who left Communism to arrive on our shores and proceeded to make a ton of money attacking it and for coming up with ever newer and more novel ideas that our right wing… whenever it gains power, will use to “justify” new wars to use up more and more kids from middle and poorer class families. Ahhh, what’s that to a die-hard still afflicted with a 21st form of Rip van Winkelism of his own concerning old Reds. I’ve done my share of wrangling with more than a few in my part of western New England, but I learned that it’s much easier hearing the birds chirp and take in the fresh country air when my sixty-four year old grandfather’s mind is more focused on having a great day with my family. Our nation will not be any more endangered by Bernie Sanders than it was when Darkside Dick Cheney manipulated the Bush administration he was to serve, not manipulate, into going off to war in 2003. Guess who’s got those WMDs now? Not us.

  • Rich Schmidt

    The difference between Hill and Sanders is:
    Sanders promotes what Marx glowingly defines as the dictatorship of the proletariat
    Hillary promotes Hillary as Dear Leader of the USSA.
    Both are inveterate collectivist differing only on how to consume the Capital that created our liberty and justice in America.

  • Shady Backflash

    This is what passes for “accuracy in media”? Wow!

    >The “they” Sanders was referring to was the anti-communist U.S. presidency of Democrat John F. Kennedy, who was determined to overthrow Castro. The evidence shows that Kennedy was killed by a Soviet-Cuban conspiracy involving Marxist “Fair Play for Cuba” member Lee Harvey Oswald.

    OK, I need to do some mental gymnastics to parse this one.

    JFK was determined to overthrow Cuba? That’s your reading of Bay of Pigs when Kennedy pulled out the airstrike on the CIA’s planned invasion and overthrow of Castro? My reading is that the CIA, under Eisenhower and Nixon, planned Bay of Pigs and planned to overthrow Cuba.

    When JFK won the election, the CIA proceeded with the plans despite JFK’s disapproval of the invasion. The result was CIA director Cabell being fired over the incident and his brother, the mayor of Dallas, rerouting the presidential motorcade so that it would pass by the now notorious Grassy Knoll.

    But if you’re still swallowing the Lee Harvey Oswald “magic bullet’ explanation of history, then so much for expecting Accuracy In Media.

    I think I’ll turn to the Fairness and Accuracy In Media site instead!

  • IronChefSandwiches

    They don’t think he’s a communist. Because they’re grown-ups who understand what words mean. As to why they support him? Probably because he’s the closest candidate to their beliefs. Doesn’t make him a communist. And please explain to me what you consider a “communist” website? My guess is you don’t understand that word any better than Kincaid.

  • AndRebecca

    There are all sorts of communist websites as well as socialist websites. The communists and socialists I have known often used the words interchangeably when describing themselves. But, you think there is a great big difference in the two. I’ll find a couple of sites for you. Meantime, we have communists and socialists in the congress. Kirsten Sinema is an atheist, LGBT, communist congress-person, but lately states she’s a socialist bi-sexual. It’s hard to keep up. You can find her on the web at past events speaking at LGBT and/or atheist gatherings.

  • Rich Schmidt

    Bernie was a communist before they dissappeared into Russian gangsters and Chinese businessmen.
    Being an ancient drug added hippie still campaigning for “dictatorships of the proletariat”
    he knows how to appeal to immatureaudie.necessary and.other “useful idiots”. Offer thither people’s money and property.

  • AndRebecca

    http://socialistparty-usa.net/who-we-are.html Here’s a socialist website. There are thousands more. I’ll find a communist one for you.

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  • AndRebecca

    Ah, just what you’ve been looking for http://cpusa.org/bernie-sanders-political-revolution/

  • sox83cubs84

    He’s a senile old fart…I’m not surprised.

  • pist0l

    and whats wrong with that?

  • Rich Schmidt

    You are both talking trash. Socialism is the basis for most all collectivist govs.
    All Communists are Socialists but not necessarily the converse.
    In any case neither has ever subverted Free Market Capitalism for more that a few decades that it took to go broke or steal someone else’s capital.

  • Colorado Conservative

    Bernie Sanders communist history precedes him well prior to his run for president. But what is more important is that he will not be the Democrat nominee as Hillary has already been chosen. He was probably told if he agreed to be a foil for the criminal Hillary he would be given a platform to shout out his communist ideology under the pretense of being a socialist.

  • Jon Revoir

    Ha! This site is called “Accuracy in Media?” If Bernie is a hard core communist in sheep’s clothing, the 86% of his state’s voters who chose him in the Vermont Democratic primary election must be a hell of a lot of happy commie campers for the quarter of a century that he’s served them and repeatedly been re-elected!

    And if things are that bad in Vermont that they like it so much, I think everyone else ought to be wondering what they’ve got that the rest of us are missing!

  • Rich Schmidt

    Just check with any former citizen of the USSR.

  • Michael Garcia

    Senator Bernie Sanders has indeed “exposed himself”.. as a clear rational thinker who does not engage in herd mentality vitriol as cowards all do..

  • Michael Garcia

    Hillary Clinton is a right wing nut who sees every problem as having the same solution.. bombing and overthrow..
    please do not slander Senator Bernie sanders simply because you are a right wing idiot..

  • reggie

    And killery accepted $500,000 from Pakistani businessmen on January 20, 2016, in Beaumont, Texas.

  • AndRebecca

    I guess the one party two class system, with the rulers and the ruled is a problem for anyone who wants freedom. Then there’s that state of constant upheaval in the Leftist countries, with the only hope being the westerners will bail them out at some point… There are lots of things wrong with Marxism. Psychotic bad guys in charge. Marxism started out being a reaction to Protestant Christianity and the capitalistic system that they started where the middle class showed what miracles they could perform, with the help of God . Communism is about taking stuff away from people and giving it to the rulers. Don’t you like stuff? Communism is about a small pie with only enough for the ruling class, the crumbs for the rest. Right now the commies in America are working on getting control of water and power, among other things, so they can be your master and you can be in distress over water and power.

  • AndRebecca

    When have Marxists ever thought clearly?

  • AndRebecca

    Great! You called RMT a right-winger.

  • AndRebecca

    You can fool some of the people all of the time.

  • AndRebecca

    What a nut you are. The Left has been trying to ruin New England since the country started and have not been able to do it, yet.

  • AndRebecca

    Why are you even on this site, much less making a comment if it doesn’t matter? Go somewhere else.

  • Adam

    It’s called ‘collective mental illness’, as in the followers of Pisslam.

  • Adam

    When has Sanders ever expressed sincere regret for ANYTHING he’s said or done, including forcing his first wife to live in a shack with a dirt floor – in Vermont, not Cuba.

  • Steven Barrett

    Red Baiters and CryptoMcCarthyites unite and rejoice, you have your home restored: AIM.

  • Jenni W

    Well evidently Sanders understands the theories of class struggle and economic cycles. He believes the US is ready for the revolutionary phase, brought about by the increased exposure of the greed and cynicism of the tiny percent at the top of the capitalist food chain. So in essence, history is repeating itself and Bernie is in the right place when people are ready to listen to this phase of the rhetoric. His popularity is perfectly in line with Marxist theory. Stay tuned!

  • Rich Schmidt

    There are no “classes” in the US. Socialists and crony capitalists create them in the public’s mind in order to have something/someone, preferably un-identifiable at long range, to “struggle” against.
    Wannabe dictators approach Joe and Sam public and whisper in eachs’ ear; did you hear how that other guy oppresses us and wants to control out life? Here, I’ll hold your coat and wallet while you go assail him as the enemy.

  • Bill W

    As usual, facts mean little. When the USSR collapsed it was proven that everyone McCarthy accused was a card carrying Communist taking orders from mother Russia.

  • His Excellency

    No. Sanders is a left-wing nut and modern-day American Neville Chamberlain who thinks that appeasing and kissing anti-American totalitarian dictators’ behinds is somehow “standing up for our values”. If you had been president of the USA before and/or World War II, we would be in serious trouble.

  • His Excellency

    Says the supporter of neo-Communist Putin in Russia.

  • His Excellency

    McCarthy was right. There was serious Communist subversion in the United States during the Cold War period. Remember the Rosenbergs, who stole atomic secrets for the Soviet empire? You communists, on the other hand, label anyone who disagrees with you as “racists” and “fascists”.

  • RMThoughts

    Let’s not forget that fully 116 luminaryneocon members of the GOP’s national security community, many of them veterans of Bush administrations, have signed an open letter saying, if Trump is nominated some will defect — to Hillary Clinton!

  • His Excellency

    No he’s not. In fact, he’s the only irrational thinker in the presidential race. Sanders is the only presidential candidate in this election cycle that openly hates America.

  • His Excellency

    As for me, I support Cruz for president. He’s a true American patriot.

  • His Excellency

    While it is true that JFK went back on the Bay of Pigs operation by refusing to send two military planes to help the Cuban exile militants in their efforts to defeat the Soviet-backed Castro dictatorship, it is also true that Lee Harvey Oswald was an agent of Communist Cuba’s DGI intelligence organization, as well as a member of the Soviet/Cuban Communist-backed Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Besides, even before Washington had planned the Bay of Pigs operation, the Castro dictatorship in Cuba actually planned and tried to carry out four of its own “Bay of Pigs” invasions against four sovereign Western Hemisphere countries: the Dominican Republic, Haiti, Panama and Nicaragua. The planned invasions happened within the first two years of Castro’s rule in Cuba. And unlike the Bay of Pigs operation, which mainly involved Cuban exile militants, the Castro dictatorship’s invasions of the countries mentioned above featured very few citizens of the countries invaded. The Cuban Communist forces were essentially wiped out quite quickly in each of the invasions. In addition to the four countries mentioned above, the Castro dictatorship later also tried to invade a fifth country, Venezuela, in 1967. But that one backfired as well. The fact is that Communist Cuba is an imperialist regime.

  • His Excellency

    There were WMDs in Iraq. ISIS militants found loads of them at abandoned factories in Iraq almost two years ago. But the main rationale for the Iraq War was to enforce the 17 UN resolutions based on the Gulf War truce that Saddam’s regime in Iraq had agreed to.

  • His Excellency

    And apparently, you ignore the fact that the Castro dictatorship in Cuba planned and tried to carry out a huge terrorist plot against Americans in different locales in New York City the month after the Missile Crisis. The targets included Macy’s, Gimbels, Bloomingdales and Manhattan’s Grand Central Terminal. The weapons that the Castro dictatorship’s agents planned to use were a dozen explosive devices and 500 kg of TNT explosives. The planned date of the doomsday plot was Black Friday 1962, the largest shopping day of the year. But the plan backfired because J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI got word of the plot and infiltrated it using human intelligences. When the plotters were arrested, it turned out that there were so-called “diplomats” at Communist Cuba’s UN mission. That’s dramatic. By the way, the Panama operation was justified because the Cuban Communist-backed Noriega narco-dictatorship had declared war on the United States and was capturing, jailing, toruturing and killing US military personnel, as well as his own people.

  • RMThoughts

    Cruz has been carefully groomed to be the “golden boy” to hold the conservative GOP base since his Bush/Rove days. His moment to be useful the GOPe is now

    In the GOPe it is clear “conservatism” is no longer really a coherent political philosophy or worldview, but a tribal identifier. Trump is hated not because of his political positions or even his style, but because he does not repeat the shibboleths of the Beltway Right.

    Cruz’s faux Country everyman shtick is a clumsy attempt to transform a Canadian born, Harvard educated, East Coast corporate lawyer into some kind of corn-fed son of the soil.

  • His Excellency

    Cruz is our modern-day George Washington. He’s the best candidate for the job of USA president.

  • Rich Schmidt

    Ted Cruz is for Constitutionally Limited Fed Gov and has repeatedly said that eliminating corruption and Nannystate principles from our current crony capitalist Fed Gov is the first and only path to solution of the mess we’ve created for ourselves.
    Arguing and blaming is sport in American politics. Reform and morality takes character and some sacrifice of childish ideas of magic and supermen saviors.
    Ted Cruz is a leader who can show us the way. He needs critical mass to do so. Vote Cruz.

  • Rich Schmidt

    Baaarh baaaah!

  • Rich Schmidt

    Wrong. Crony capitalists are the “party” of American socialism. Hill and Trump are card carrying crony capitalists and as irrational as bernie. He is merely premature (or rushing ) in announcing Socialist’s intention in the US.
    I guess he interpreted Obama’s “audacity” in establishing a double talk Fed Gov of gangsters and bankrupt idealists as the signal to drop the seventh veil. Now he’s simply naked.

  • His Excellency

    Indeed.

  • Rich Schmidt

    Garcia are you blind and deaf?

  • RMThoughts

    Instead, Messrs. Rubio, Kasich, and Cruz did what every establishment Republican does in times like this–self-loathingly blame your own. You’d expect that from Rubio and Kasich, but Cruz’s response–blaming Trump–showed that inside, he may actually be the political careerist who has many of the same ladder-climbing characteristics of Hillary Clinton.

  • Sharon U

    Democratic socialism is what the scandinavian countries have as a type of government mixed in with some capitalism. USA is full blown crony capitalism with huge income inequality.

    What rubbish when you say communism is democratic socialism. Communism is waay more extreme in that there are no democratic elections.

    So much for accuracy in media. More like junk media.

  • Richard Hellstrom

    You couldn’t justify that Panama Operation if Noriega was the FUHRER his self ! The break up in America’s drug dealing Buddy Program was the most genocidal attack on civilians in modern history and led to Communist Red China controlling the Panama Canal.

  • His Excellency

    No it wasn’t, you Communist propagandist. There was no genocide there. Most civilian deaths were collateral damage, but the operation removed a Castro-supported narcodictator who was killing and torturing Americans, as well as his own people. And, also, how about Communist Cuba’s support for the illegal Argentine invasion of the Falkland Islands, which resulted in many Britons dead?

  • Steven Barrett

    Why waste my time? The same people who now bitch about “political correctness” are defending what McCarthy did and inadvertently defending the same kind of narrow minded ideological purity campaigns pursued by the Left. You’re both two sides of the same worthless Russian Kopeck.

  • IronChefSandwiches

    Congratulations. You found a Marxist group, a Communist group and a Socialist group that all support Sanders. So what? He’s the closest thing to their ideal candidate. That’s it.

    Using your logic, and the fact that racist groups are all supporting Trump…is he a racist? If not, your arguments are proven to be ridiculous.

  • AndRebecca

    I’m just trying to enlighten you. You seem very ignorant. Look at the sites and see if a light bulb might go off in your head. You never know, the impossible happens now and then.

  • IronChefSandwiches

    LOL You’re spouting nonsense and trying to sell it as a reasonable argument. It isn’t. So…is Trump a racist because racists like him or not? If not, your logic completely falls apart.

  • AndRebecca

    Huh? Like I said read, read ,read. A light bulb may go off. You never know.

  • Steven Barrett

    Wow, I always love reading that nonsense “Constitutionally Limited Fed Gov” or variations on the same theme. Somehow I can’t help wondering if its strongest adherents want us all to go back to the days of powdered whigs, no women’s suffrage, states were allowed to restrict religious rights of Catholics and in some cases, make everybody pay for the upkeep of the individual state’s selection of denomination for its “state church.” (Even Protestants, particularly Thomas Jefferson hated that to no end.) And of course, I’ve saved the most notably legal institution allowed by the Constitution back in the late 18th Century: our “original sin” as former Secretary of State Condolezza Rich properly named Slavery.
    Rich, we live in 2016, not 1816.
    The Constitution was never intended to become a legal straightjacket, and we all know the kind of people straightjackets were designed for wearing.

  • Steven Barrett

    Where’s the evidence Colorado Conservative, or should I refer to yo as Colorado McCarthyite. C’mon, you got Bernie’s name on a list of x number of Commies you’re prepared to pull out of your coat like good ol’ “Tailgunner Joe”? Ah, but where’s your shame, as the good attorney Welsh from Boston asked McCarthy only after the American Torquemada ruined so many lives … “Where’s your shame” if you can’t prove Bernie Sanders is a “communist?”

  • Rich Schmidt

    No need to”prove” Bernie is a Marxist. His history and own statements show him to be so.
    Do we have to “prove” that a big striped cat is a tiger?

  • Colorado Conservative

    Here you go, Trevor Loudon gives Bernie’s history https://youtu.be/DDGgdUP6tCc

  • Rich Schmidt

    No it was intended to delineate what gov may do, and state specifically that it do no more. How else could we be guaranteed our inalienable rights?
    Your characterization of the US Constitution as a historical document rather the law of the land wrt government’s form, functional and reach is ludicrously misguided.
    Your condescending attitude achieved by your silly presumption of the intent of Constitutional Limits is irresponsible.
    You can vote yourself into slavery Steve; but you cannot vote yourself out.

  • jenlr

    IronChefSandwiches: a public high school honors chemistry teacher from Gary, Indiana who makes his comments during school hours (slacker). Divorced (could be his fault), is an alcoholic (constantly comments on news stories that he needs a drink), probably overweight (has mentioned he looks like Peter Griffin) and has very strange sexual fetishes (he has mentioned he has fantasies about the drummer from Cheap Trick). Usually comments days after an article is posted because he is afraid to actually engage in debate, and insults just like a typical Internet troll.

  • AndRebecca

    Thank you. That explains everything.

  • Bruce Lacey

    Pretty bad when even an educated writer for a news organization. Doesn’t know what communism or socialism is. Just like half of the Ignorant Americans who spew the false rhetoric, like it has any fact. This site, seems to be the exact opposite of what it aims to be, its just another, for establishment media, spreading their lies. They probably feel empowered, watching the sheep gather below them. Ignorance is bliss, so let me educate you people.
    Socialism without Capitalism = Communism
    Capitalism without Socialism = Fascism
    With that knowledge, what would you consider America to be?
    Most ignorant Americans would say Fascism. Because we dont like socialism. But listen closely. Fascism is what Hitler brought about. Are you, saying, we live in a country’s who governing principles is the same as Hitlers? For all you Capitalism fans, are you saying you really want to be a baby Hitler?
    And Bernie doesn’t want to stop Capitalism. It is a combination of the two you strive for. A balance. Both extremes of these two systems have been proven to be failures. You are witnessing the Capitalism failure right before your eyes. The rich getting richer, and no new wealth to the middle class.
    Its disappointing, watching alot of my fellow Americans, vote against what is clearly a better option, for them, their children, and the future of all Americans. It also sad to see the direct bias of the media. Its hard for people that dont have much time, or haven’t studied/researched what it is the Media is saying. But once you do, you realize that about 95 % of the media is compromised. And when you only get your news from the main stream media, like CNN, MSNBC, FOX. You are utterly being lied to, or given an opinion, 80% of the time. While they will have you thinking, or say that, it is NEWS. Its not, news is based of facts not an opinionated rhetoric. So help us all, help America get its democracy back and demand the truth. #feelthebern

  • Bruce Lacey

    This might help the author of this, too.

  • Bruce Lacey

    Oh, they never scream socialism when it pays for war!

  • Rich Schmidt

    You seem very confused Bruce. More than half the, world has tried some brand of socialism. In every case the experiment failed after a couple generations. The blood sucking altruists ate the capital it took to sustain an economy/gov. That is if they had any to begin with. Ideologues intoxicated on living on other people’s creativity and abilities succumbed to slavery and paid big for the privelige.
    Free market capitalism compromised by nannystatism gives way to crony capitalism with all the associsted corruption and monetary debasement. Witness the USA today.
    You can vote yourself into slavery but you can’t vote yourself out.

  • Bruce Lacey

    Did you not read my above posts? I explained very clear what your pure free market capitalism is? Its called Fascism. Read my posts up there and then comment. Baby Hitler!

  • Rich Schmidt

    You explained nothing. You posted untenable opinion on I’ll defined ideologies of you own invention.
    I pointed out significant counterexamples in the real-world.
    You now seem perplexed that anyone dare show how vacuous your post actually is.

  • Bruce Lacey

    The definitions of socialism, communism, fascism and capitalism are not, I repeat (just for you) are NOT, “untenable opinion” as you state. Those are based on fact. Wow, duck and dodge the truth, by portraying definitions of words as opinion. Americas screwed….

  • Bruce Lacey
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  • Bruce Lacey

    what is that crap you spew..people can vote for unfounded wars, and be anywhere on the left or liberal…point blank. they can portray on, but you cant call them one, unless they are the MASS MEDIA

  • Rich Schmidt

    Define away the untenable aspects of socialism any way you like Buce. Owning/regulating capital and the market is a root in socialism and implies control by other than vested (ie equity) owners. This inevitably is centralized and directed in the form of an openloop control system where the production bottom line has no necessary response to the consumer. Soon a lag developed as planners fail to predict what is needed and wanted and wealth is destroyed in the process.
    We have seen this happen in at least a dozen cases where socialism, entered into voluntarily or by force, has transformed a state into chaos, black marketeering and
    Gov corruption. Witness the US, a crony capitalist Nannystate nearly bankrupt and ruled by unseen forces appearing to be a Representative Republic but actually a vote buying oligarchy.
    Adherencephalitis to the US Constitution is the way out. Vote for Cruz.

  • His Excellency

    More like the nonsense you post.

  • Rich Schmidt

    I addressed your post directly. You didn’t even state your source. You could have easily composed the “definitions” you display.
    You failed to address anything I posted except my assertion that no matter the definitions, you are merely a labeller of convenience. Sort out socialism any way you like it hasn’t worked anywhere on the planet.

  • Bruce Lacey

    If you live in america, you are living in socialism. It is not pure socialism and it isn’t pure capitalism, it is both of them! Jesus, how hard is that to understand

  • Bruce Lacey

    wow, Ted Cruz huh, religious carpet bombing neocon nut, Ted Cruz, no thanks, Only a scatterbrain nut would vote for him. I’d take my chances with Trump before him.

  • Rich Schmidt

    And you certainly are taking a chance with Trump.

  • Rich Schmidt

    You apparently have difficulty reading. Read our exchange two generations ago!
    I used your assertion here as an example of socialism failure in the form of American Crony Capitalism.
    And you just kept on raving!

  • Bruce Lacey

    If Bernie is cheated, I’ll take Trump over Hillary any day.

  • Bruce Lacey

    No, Bernie is not a socialist. And,is,not like Marx, he is somewhat like FDR, is a social Democrat, just like all the other social democrats in the world.

    http://www.salon.com/2016/03/15/bernie_is_no_socialist_partner/

  • Rich Schmidt

    Your ranting is turning into squirming Bruce.

  • IronChefSandwiches

    BINGO!

  • IronChefSandwiches

    Your inability to understand the word “Marxism” is growing tedious to those of us who understand it.

  • IronChefSandwiches

    Ummm… The former citizens of the USSR…DIDN’T ELECT ANYONE YOU BLITHERING DOLT!

  • Rich Schmidt

    All one need do is read Das Kapital.
    It’s no mystery.

  • Rich Schmidt

    Sure they did and the communist party candidate, often the only candidate, won with margins even better than Sanders claims.
    I guess you would claim that the USSR potemkin elections served a “better class” of voters

  • IronChefSandwiches

    Well…yeah. But c’mon. Those weren’t real elections and you know it! I still say it’s a horrible analogy you used.

    PS Sorry for calling you names this morning. I was having a crappy day.

  • Rich Schmidt

    Apology graciously accepted.
    If Vermont really did give the ancient hippie 85% for as many yrs as he says, one wonders about Vermonters, where was the opposition?
    In early bolshevist Russia there were elections like those in VT but they rapidly became the ones you have in mind as the foolish Red population killed off the Whites anD voted themselves into slavery.
    You’re correct though it was an opaque analogy.

  • jenlr

    It was definitely opaque.

    IronChefSandwiches – a public high school honors Chemistry teacher from Gary, Indiana, who trolls during the day while he is supposed to be working. Divorced and most likely drunk based on the time he had this argument with you. May abuse you in the future. Has strange sexual fetish with Bun E. Carlos of Cheap Trick.

  • Bruce Lacey

    It appears to me, that you are in total denial,of the facts.. Then want me,to read a book that you base your rhetoric on. You are trying to confuse the meaning of Socialism and Capitalism’s definition. And then try and down play the roll each of them has,in our Society today. You are nothing but a closed,minded bigot, pure and simple. Your back to the original 1776 constitution is outdated, this is 2016, and it’s time for change, not regression. And agian, the constitution disnt solve many of humanities inequalities, such as slaves, discrimination, and injustices done to humans. So stop being hard headed, and learn the real meaning of Socialism and capitalism, and not just what you want to believe those words mean.

  • Bruce Lacey

    Oh and another thing, our founding fathers thought the constitution should only be held for 15-20 years, then it should be rewritten to apply to the views and ideolgy of that generation. Did you forget that?

  • Bruce Lacey

    And if you haven’t noticed, we are already slaves….

  • Rich Schmidt

    Nonsense!

  • Rich Schmidt

    Appearance sometimes decieve. Especially when you close your eyes.

  • Rich Schmidt

    Source?

  • Bruce Lacey

    That’s your answer, noonsense? Do I have to find and post the litirature, for you to just tell me, nonsense again. I won’t waste my time. But you should use some of your time, to research and find the truth. I’ll dare say, it’s not NONSENSE.

  • Rich Schmidt

    I guess we’re about done here Bruce. Seems like you like shadow boxing.
    I have one parting question re your (personal and unfounded) belief in generational rewriting of the US Constitution.
    If the a Constitution actually needs revisiting/”modernization” every twenty years or so, what is the use of a Constitution at all?
    As I understand the Constitution, it states the bounds of government thus guaranteeing non-infringement on our rights. That won’t change in 20 or 200 years. Any needed augmentation is adequately served in the Amendment process.
    Are you perhaps a young person?

  • Bruce Lacey

    It was sought after by Thomas Jefferson, he eluded to the fact that on generation, should not rule over another generation. On practical grounds, he rejects the opportunity for amendment or repeal as an adequate substitute for the requirement of expiration and re-ratification. So there ya go, not my answer, but Thomas Jefersons answer to your question, one of the founding fathers. So you see, it’s not that I am young, it’s because I’m well read, and try to keep myself informed.

    http://www.conlaw.org/Intergenerational-II-2-9.htm

  • Bruce Lacey

    I believe your the one being deceived. I will look at that book, when I get time. In very interested in others opinions, or I wouldn’t have entertained yours so much in this thread. But, to call Sanders a communist, or anything like that is false. Yes, you can say Healthcare for all, and College for all is socialistic in nature, but those are the only two things in his platform that are socialist in nature. So to label him as a socialist, and only a socialist, is false, and decieves the truth of his platform. But you can also see that America’s future, depends on the health and education of its citizens, no? Here is a quick read artical (at bottom) that does a good job of explaining socialism in the world as we have come to know it. Also how this is not even close or shouldn’t be compared to communism. And Marxism was just a philosophy of communism, which isn’t what Bernie stands for, and isn’t in his platform. So, I think your views, are not on the same page as mine and Bernie’s, the question then, is why? What makes his “universally accepted” platform of equality in healthcare and education, be dismissed as crazy. All logical common sense would tell you this is best for society?http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/6/7/1389039/-Bernie-Sanders-is-a-democratic-socialist-but-what-does-that-term-mean

  • Bruce Lacey

    Another person who clearly knows nothing of the meaning of communism. Your no better then Hillary supportors, with their head in the sand, throwing unfounded rhetoric at the stupid people who are too ignorant to look up the truth. May you read this and look for,many others that state your communism views, is WRONG. And labeling Bernie as such is WRONG. read this link and educate yourself, cause you sound idiotic and stupid, to those of us that are educated. http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/6/7/1389039/-Bernie-Sanders-is-a-democratic-socialist-but-what-does-that-term-mean

  • Colorado Conservative

    And you are just another name calling troll who apparently has no understanding of how to use correct spelling and grammar which would then lead others to think you could be just as ignorant in other areas. Go bother someone else.

  • Bruce Lacey

    Oh really, just like a fool and his sword, to slander ones, spelling or grammer, instead of the issues he raised about the false rhetoric that was spewed from their ignorant tongues. You know, clearly well what I said. So show me the facts of your statement? You can’t, so that makes you the troll here! Take your club, and go somewhere else that you can spread your false propaganda, because you have been called out and shown to have no merit. bye bye, ignorant lying trolls aren’t welcome in intelligent debate.

  • Bruce Lacey

    Show me the facts to you statements! Show me where Sanders “kisses the ass of American Totalitarian Dictators” as you state. You can’t Because your a lying troll. That is the fact of your existence.

  • His Excellency
  • Bruce Lacey

    You send me to a website that 1)doesn’t talk about his American Toltalitarian Dictator kiss ass. Who exactly was he kissing ass to? That article also bases it’s opinion and facts on AIM articles. The very people who wrote this one, that we are debating. This article has no fact to back up it’s rhetoric, and I certainly will not entertain ideas given by this AIM establishment, as facts or even closely related to facts. So try and give me credible sources next time, and not clearly bias opinion based ones.

  • His Excellency

    AIM is very accurate about facts, unlike you communist fanatics.

  • Bruce Lacey

    For one, you apparently, like I said, have no,idea,what communism is, as the person who wrote this article. I’m not going to waste my time trying to explain it to someone, that is Cleary ignorant to all facts stated. Someone who clearly is in denial of stated facts. And someone who believe in a website, that has, been shown not to state the facts, as to the meaning, 99 pecent of the world, defines as communism, or a communist. So be the uneducated, racial ignorant, person you want to be. Believe me, your nothing new, America is full of idiots like you. They even made a movie about y’all Idiocracy. Should watch, what you are certain to become…fool!

  • Rich Schmidt

    Yes Bruce an educated citizenry benefits us all, but not so a uniformly propagandized groupthinking citizenry. Only dupes insist that everyone agree on all aspects of every issue.
    If you think of yourself as an independent thinker you had best learn to entertain the opposition with respect even when your emotions don’t admit courtesy.
    BTW a little dose of those “education” fundamentals wrt rhetorical syntax and basic logic would also serve you well.

  • Rich Schmidt

    Everyone who studies American history looks at correspondence (mail) between the founders for motivation. Jefferson argues that only natural law is invariant over time and that “municipal” law or what we now call regulation is only applicable over finite periods, suggesting a “generation” as the appropriate unit.
    As a result of such deliberations as the interchange you refer to here between Jefferson and Madison, we have a Constitution that corresponds to natural law, beginning with self evident principles, reserving for states and individuals the right to regulate outside it’s bounds.
    The admission of Amendments answered your basic concern for cultural and civil growth, and is explicitly held to be confined within natural law. Even the eventuality of Constitutional reformulation in the event that Congress, Exec or Judiciary depts attempt to transcend natural law is covered legally by the possibility of a Constitutional Conventon.
    There has never been a Federal Constitutional Convention (albeit may be time re the imbalance induced by rampant corrupt Crony Capitalism).
    Otoh the states, most of which adopted form and function of the US Constitution, who have inherited from the Constitution much of the domain of regularity law, have convened over 230 State CCs. Thus illustrating the efficient inclusion of all of Thomas Jefferson’s concerns without what you interpret as periodic re-constituting.
    Bruce, some advice. Before searching Google for evidence to support your claims in the face of objection. Use your own thinking and values to ascertain if you yourself have not fallen victim to your own neglect to update some of your old ( and rather rigidly held) beliefs/ideas.
    Ideology is just the map, it’s not the territory.
    Then again, some of what I allude to might have eluded you.

  • Bruce Lacey

    Please, you said no one ever stated that the constitution should be rewritten, now you agree that it was mentioned. I never eluded to or tried to say anything different. I believe in the constitution and that it should be followed. I believe “money creation”should go back to the government, not the private FED. That will never happen though, the NWO agenda will never allow that. One world government, one world currency, is their agenda, and they are serious about it. I do think it needs,to be rewritten, for this day and age though. I think this would be a lot easier then “ratifiying it” It has been stretched and manipulated for the “crony capitalist” as you say. So, you see, I’m not in disagreement with alot you have said. I just think you are blind to how social programs can help Americans. Somethings can’t be profited upon. Some things and up costing 5x more, because of the profit that needs to be made, if the power,of money creation was given back to the government. Then all this tax, spending, and intrest, would not be had. Read this article from a “Scandinavia” socialist, that now resides in America. Maybe it will help you see, it’s all fear and propaganda that has you yelling bad socialism. http://www.businessinsider.com/what-americans-dont-understand-about-nordic-countries-2016-3

    Also, if you think 2 social programs would bankrupt us, check out Forbes list of top countries for business. Scandinavian countries top the list, while America dropped to 24th or something. So, it seems the countries with socialist programs, education and health, actually have the strongest economies! http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2015/12/16/the-best-countries-for-business-2015/#7aa7c71e7364

  • Bruce Lacey

    Yes, and I think it is reaching, to conclude, we would all be, wearing the same clothes, with the same hair cut, marching lock step, singing the same school song. That is insane to even think like that. All schools now, and later will have their own identity and professors, who will still compete for,the best students.