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Obama’s Communist Mentor


AIM Column  |  By Cliff Kincaid  |  February 18, 2008


Is “coalition politics” at work in Obama’s rise to power?

Photo by Joe Crimmings*

In his biography of Barack Obama, David Mendell writes about Obama's life as a "secret smoker" and how he "went to great lengths to conceal the habit." But what about Obama's secret political life? It turns out that Obama's childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist.

In his books, Obama admits attending "socialist conferences" and coming into contact with Marxist literature. But he ridicules the charge of being a "hard-core academic Marxist," which was made by his colorful and outspoken 2004 U.S. Senate opponent, Republican Alan Keyes.

However, through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."

The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What's more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several communist-front organizations.  

Trevor Loudon, a New Zealand-based libertarian activist, researcher and blogger, noted evidence that "Frank" was Frank Marshall Davis in a posting in March of 2007.

Obama's communist connection adds to mounting public concern about a candidate who has come out of virtually nowhere, with a brief U.S. Senate legislative record, to become the Democratic Party frontrunner for the U.S. presidency. In the latest Real Clear Politics poll average, Obama beats Republican John McCain by almost four percentage points.

AIM recently disclosed that Obama has well-documented socialist connections, which help explain why he sponsored a "Global Poverty Act" designed to send hundreds of billions of dollars of U.S. foreign aid to the rest of the world, in order to meet U.N. demands. The bill has passed the House and a Senate committee, and awaits full Senate action.

But the Communist Party connection through Davis is even more ominous. Decades ago, the CPUSA had tens of thousands of members, some of them covert agents who had penetrated the U.S. Government. It received secret subsidies from the old Soviet Union.

You won't find any of this discussed in the David Mendell book, Obama: From Promise to Power. It is typical of the superficial biographies of Obama now on the market. Secret smoking seems to be Obama's most controversial activity. At best, Mendell and the liberal media describe Obama as "left-leaning."

But you will find it briefly discussed, sort of, in Obama's own book, Dreams From My Father. He writes about "a poet named Frank," who visited them in Hawaii, read poetry, and was full of "hard-earned knowledge" and advice. Who was Frank? Obama only says that he had "some modest notoriety once," was "a contemporary of Richard Wright and Langston Hughes during his years in Chicago..." but was now "pushing eighty." He writes about "Frank and his old Black Power dashiki self" giving him advice before he left for Occidental College in 1979 at the age of 18. 

This "Frank" is none other than Frank Marshall Davis, the black communist writer now considered by some to be in the same category of prominence as Maya Angelou and Alice Walker. In the summer/fall 2003 issue of African American Review, James A. Miller of George Washington University reviews a book by John Edgar Tidwell, a professor at the University of Kansas, about Davis's career, and notes, "In Davis's case, his political commitments led him to join the American Communist Party during the middle of World War II-even though he never publicly admitted his Party membership." Tidwell is an expert on the life and writings of Davis.

Is it possible that Obama did not know who Davis was when he wrote his book, Dreams From My Father, first published in 1995? That's not plausible since Obama refers to him as a contemporary of Richard Wright and Langston Hughes and says he saw a book of his black poetry.

The communists knew who "Frank" was, and they know who Obama is. In fact, one academic who travels in communist circles understands the significance of the Davis-Obama relationship. 

Professor Gerald Horne, a contributing editor of the Communist Party journal Political Affairs, talked about it during a speech last March at the reception of the Communist Party USA archives at the Tamiment Library at New York University. The remarks are posted online under the headline, "Rethinking the History and Future of the Communist Party."

Horne, a history professor at the University of Houston, noted that Davis, who moved to Honolulu from Kansas in 1948 "at the suggestion of his good friend Paul Robeson," came into contact with Barack Obama and his family and became the young man's mentor, influencing Obama's sense of identity and career moves. Robeson, of course, was the well-known black actor and singer who served as a member of the CPUSA and apologist for the old Soviet Union. Davis had known Robeson from his time in Chicago.

As Horne describes it, Davis "befriended" a "Euro-American family" that had "migrated to Honolulu from Kansas and a young woman from this family eventually had a child with a young student from Kenya East Africa who goes by the name of Barack Obama, who retracing the steps of Davis eventually decamped to Chicago."

It was in Chicago that Obama became a "community organizer" and came into contact with more far-left political forces, including the Democratic Socialists of America, which maintains close ties to European socialist groups and parties through the Socialist International (SI), and two former members of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), William Ayers and Carl Davidson.

The SDS laid siege to college campuses across America in the 1960s, mostly in order to protest the Vietnam War, and spawned the terrorist Weather Underground organization. Ayers was a member of the terrorist group and turned himself in to authorities in 1981. He is now a college professor and served with Obama on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago. Davidson is now a figure in the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism, an offshoot of the old Moscow-controlled CPUSA, and helped organize the 2002 rally where Obama came out against the Iraq War.

Both communism and socialism trace their roots to Karl Marx, co-author of the Communist Manifesto, who endorsed the first meeting of the Socialist International, then called the "First International." According to Pierre Mauroy, president of the SI from 1992-1996, "It was he [Marx] who formally launched it, gave the inaugural address and devised its structure..."

Apparently unaware that Davis had been publicly named as a CPUSA member, Horne said only that Davis "was certainly in the orbit of the CP [Communist Party]-if not a member..."

In addition to Tidwell's book, Black Moods: Collected Poems of Frank Marshall Davis, confirming Davis's Communist Party membership, another book, The New Red Negro: The Literary Left and African American Poetry, 1930-1946, names Davis as one of several black poets who continued to publish in CPUSA-supported publications after the 1939 Hitler-Stalin non-aggression pact. The author, James Edward Smethurst, associate professor of Afro-American studies at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst, says that Davis, however, would later claim that he was "deeply troubled" by the pact.

While blacks such as Richard Wright left the CPUSA, it is not clear if or when Davis ever left the party.

However, Obama writes in Dreams From My Father that he saw "Frank" only a few days before he left Hawaii for college, and that Davis seemed just as radical as ever. Davis called college "An advanced degree in compromise" and warned Obama not to forget his "people" and not to "start believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that ####." Davis also complained about foot problems, the result of "trying to force African feet into European shoes," Obama wrote.

For his part, Horne says that Obama's giving of credit to Davis will be important in history. "At some point in the future, a teacher will add to her syllabus Barack's memoir and instruct her students to read it alongside Frank Marshall Davis' equally affecting memoir, Living the Blues and when that day comes, I'm sure a future student will not only examine critically the Frankenstein monsters that US imperialism created in order to subdue Communist parties but will also be moved to come to this historic and wonderful archive in order to gain insight on what has befallen this complex and intriguing planet on which we reside," he said.

Dr. Kathryn Takara, a professor of Interdisciplinary Studies at the University of Hawaii at Manoa who also confirms that Davis is the "Frank" in Obama's book, did her dissertation on Davis and spent much time with him between 1972 until he passed away in 1987.

In an analysis posted online, she notes that Davis, who was a columnist for the Honolulu Record, brought "an acute sense of race relations and class struggle throughout America and the world" and that he openly discussed subjects such as American imperialism,  colonialism and exploitation. She described him as a "socialist realist" who attacked the work of the House Un-American Activities Committee. 

Davis, in his own writings, had said that Robeson and Harry Bridges, the head of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU) and a secret member of the CPUSA, had suggested that he take a job as a columnist with the Honolulu Record "and see if I could do something for them." The ILWU was organizing workers there and Robeson's contacts were "passed on" to Davis, Takara writes.

Takara says that Davis "espoused freedom, radicalism, solidarity, labor unions, due process, peace, affirmative action, civil rights, Negro History week, and true Democracy to fight imperialism, colonialism, and white supremacy. He urged coalition politics."

Is "coalition politics" at work in Obama's rise to power?

Trevor Loudon, the New Zealand-based blogger who has been analyzing the political forces behind Obama and specializes in studying the impact of Marxist and leftist political organizations, notes that Frank Chapman, a CPUSA supporter, has written a letter to the party newspaper hailing the Illinois senator's victory in the Iowa caucuses.

"Obama's victory was more than a progressive move; it was a dialectical leap ushering in a qualitatively new era of struggle," Chapman wrote. "Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface. This is the old revolutionary ‘mole,' not only showing his traces on the surface but also breaking through."

Let's challenge the liberal media to report on this. Will they have the honesty and integrity to do so?


Cliff Kincaid is the Editor of the AIM Report and can be reached at


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James B.
April 18  at  12:51 pm  |  #1  |  Link

You are an idiot.  Speculation and one sided sources. If you are going to report on such things report on the whole thing not just your meger assessment.

Byan
April 18  at  6:36 pm  |  #2  |  Link

James first of all why start out with “You are an idiot.”? Are his facts incorrect? What part of the whole thing would you have him report on? The story was about Obamas communist associations.

If the facts are correct then I think we need to know more about what kind of agenda Obama has for our country.

Kip
April 21  at  7:04 pm  |  #3  |  Link

James B, please dispense with the AD Hominem personal attacks. They are not warranted and not allowed.

Barry, I mean Barack Obama(Obama once went by Barry because he was ashamed of Barack) has went to Trinity UNited Church of Christ, for years.

TUCC teaches Black Liberation Theology, which was built from Marxist Liberation Theology.

Sagacious
April 22  at  9:45 pm  |  #4  |  Link

Who really cares if Barack Obama is a communist or socialist?  Compared to the last 7 long years of having this idiotic moronic bloodthirsty murderous corrupt pathologically-lying sociopathic demonic fascist slimeball known as Dumbya in the White House, America would be well served to have a large amount of corrective action put in place by a communist or socialist.  The simple fact is that President Cheney and his little dummy have easily been the worst leaders this country has ever had, and certainly ever will (arguable the worst in world history).  I mean they even make Adolph Hitler look like a great guy.  At least Hitler took care of his own people.  You can’t even say that about Dictator Bush.  I doubt you’ll ever find anyone more universally despised across the universe than George W. Bush.  He has become so mentally deranged that today he even said we’re not in a recession.

With an over 80% unapproval rate, I bet he’ll be on the phone soon to his old friend Jimmyjeff.  You know… the bald guy who pretended to be a journalist by going to a weekend seminar, then got a job working for a reich-wing kkkonservative website and then suddenly, magically, got a White House Press Room pass… something that even real journalists who’ve been working politics for years can’t even get… and was then exposed as a reich-wing Repugnican shill.  What was his name again??? Oh yeah… that’s right.  It was Jeff Gannon.  You remember him… the guy with the website who is a gay prostitute and full naked photos of himself and the services he provides other men.  And only men.  Anyway… with all this stress on ol’ psycho George, I bet he’ll be calling up Jimmyjeff for another one of his special massages with “happy ending” soon.
And gee now that I think about it, wasn’t it strange how the media suddenly dropped this story like a hot potato?  Almost as strange as all the coverups surrounding 9-11.

Anyway, today I was reading that the poverty level in the U.S. is artificially set at just $10,000 per year.  However, if you become permanently disabled through no fault of your own and can no longer work, you will receive an average of $600 per month to live on (assuming you can even pass the tough test of being deemed disabled, which I hear is a lot harder than the TV commericials make it look).  Now then, if there is no housing available within 50-75 miles below $500,000, then how does one live on $600 per month? 

So they move?  OK how? (And what if they’ve lived in their area their entire lives??) In order to qualify for disability you cannot have assets totalling more than $2,000. TOTAL.  That includes a car.  So tell me how a disabled person is supposed to live on $600 per month then?  And if they’re supposed to move, how do they do it?  Movers cost money, and a disabled person can’t move their own things, obviously.  So what do they do, become homeless?  I guess that’s what you Rethugnican fascists want.  Kinda funny when we’re supposed to be the greatest country on the planet.  The home of the free and the brave.  Justice for all.  Bwaahahahahahahaha!!

In European Union countries though, they set their poverty rate not artificially as we do in the U.S., they set it according to 60% of average median income.  Now THAT is realistic.  If the average annual income is $30,000, then a disabled person would receive $24,000 per year to live on.  That’s workable. 

$600 per month is an obscene gesture like a kick in the teeth to someone when they’re down.  And it’s especially revolting considering we’re the richest country on the planet and in the history of the world, particularly when the latest cost estimates of the boondoggle in Iraq are running at $1 to $1.5 trillion, and counting.

So, I’m all for Barack and think flushing George Bush-style capitalism down the toilet into the cesspit of history is a fantastic idea.  After reading this article, I’d be even MORE inclined to vote for Obama now!

Steve from Texas
April 23  at  6:54 am  |  #5  |  Link

Hey Sagacious, you’re full of S#*T, and most (98%)of Americans do give a rat’s ass if a communist / socialist even comes close to the White House. Historically what is a leftist? Answer… communist / socialist / fascist /dictator.

The democrats are socialist and Joe McCarthy was right when he warned America that we have an enemy within.

People like yourself are the ones who are bitter and unhappy with America, and since you seem to favor the European Union, then pack your stuff and leave the USA and denounce your American citizenship and join them.You might consider getting some guns and religion to take with you.

By the way, you’re a typical liberal who won’t post with your real name.

Dori
April 23  at  10:21 am  |  #6  |  Link

Sagacious, you need to look up your screen name...You are not as sharp as you think.

S.Kabud
April 23  at  1:07 pm  |  #7  |  Link

http://www.traditionalvalues.org/modules.php?sid=3275
http://www.akpmedia.com/partners/daxelrod.html

they are selling a bag of real dangerous #### to stupid overweight infantile creatures of a shopping-mall-regime

Axelrod’s strategy has been to promote a personality, not issues. Perhaps this is why Obama’s campaign speeches have been more like Saturday Night Live Matt Foley motivational speeches than serious attempts to lay out what an Obama presidency would mean to our nation. Massachusetts voters are learning the folly of voting for a personality rather than sound policies and a plan. (This isn’t to discount the importance of character or personality in a political candidate, but the candidate should state what he’s going to do when elected – not simply give motivational speeches.)

Bryan Baxter
April 23  at  4:37 pm  |  #8  |  Link

Sagacious, do you feel better now?

Jack
April 26  at  10:35 am  |  #9  |  Link

Sagacious,

You are an ill-informed, angry excuse for an American. There is so much in you diatribe that I could attack but I will keep it to your point on the poverty level being “artificially set” at 10k.

First of all it isn’t set at 10k, you ignorant Marxist. It is “updated annually for inflation using the Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U).” Quoted from the US Census bureau.

That poverty level also does not take into consideration any government benefits that do not come in the form of cash. Food stamps, rent subsidies and the like are not included - you ridiculous Leninist.

Most government programs use different, higher, poverty measures for determination of benefit qualification but a Trotsky-ite wouldn’t want to know that. It might interfere with his anger and smugness.

So you ask how could a person who became disabled “through no fault of their own” survive on $600/month? I have plenty of answers but I will start with this simple one - they could have planned for it!!

I have. It’s called disability insurance. I have taken personal responsibility for my own well being, and that of my family, by insuring against this unfortunate occurrance. I believe that my personal financial well being is my responsibility and don’t think that I should expect the government to force anyone to support me (and in turn me to support anyone else I choose not to - that’s called charity you thieving, arogant excuse for a human.)

The United States was founded under the premise that all men were created equal, that all men would have the same opportunities to succedd OR to fail. It was founded under the premise that what is ours is ours and that government shouldn’t take from one group to give to another.
We are all free to be what we want and to earn what we want or don’t want.

We are not free to legislate that mine is yours and yours is yours and the elite govenment officials who decide such things are nothing more than what you are - a Marxist.

I’d suggest you go live under a Marxist regime and see how well your Utopia ends up feeling, but you’d better hurry they ain’t many of those around any longer and what they built is crumbling to the ground faster than a sand castle at high tide.

So go vote for your communist friend Obama. Perhaps he can promise to give you my money in larger chunks than Hillary can. Problem is when it’s all gone you won’t get a thing then who will you cry to? Stalin?

Jean Matthies
April 26  at  12:01 pm  |  #10  |  Link

There are things in the article - plus all of the remarks that I agree with. I’m not really “hip” on many political happenings - but I’m going to vote for Obama, simply to give the “other side” a chance to either screw us up more - or possibly to make things a little better. Hopefully, it will be the “make things a little better”.  Everyone has things in their past- that they wouldn’t think of doing in their later years. Many of the things I believed in during my middle age years - I do not believe in those things now. People change in their thinking - either from experience or from personal happenings.  I’m 80 years old now - and therefore going to give someone a chance that at least “talks the talk” to give Americans some hope of an improved life. Only time will tell.

Tyrone
April 29  at  1:47 pm  |  #11  |  Link

Life is funny.  We should forget politics and think of one simple thing, no matter wheather you think global warming is real or not, the kinetic energy that we constantly add to the atmosphere is real!! 25 mile wide tornantos should prove that to anyone!  With this happening sooner or later this will destabilize the ocean hydrates and we will really have global warming! OH! Something like 25 to 30 degrees c. inside six months at the very least.  So the question becomes does our political structures as they function now with self-interest the most driving force good enough.  Most the brain-dead people in Washington would need hearings and comittees and still it would not be enough.
It is our choice!  Do you love this country more than you hate black people? Or do you hate black people more than you love this country? That is the only question there is in this election!

Rob Thibault
April 30  at  11:40 pm  |  #12  |  Link

Steve from Texas is either a liar or an idiot.  Probably both. He says leftists are “communist / socialist / fascist /dictator”.

This is a typical, scurrilous lie of the right wing… trying to confuse liberals with those other groups. He and anyone else who believes this should do themselves a favor and look up the definition of ‘liberal’ in the dictionary.  You won’t see anything at all relating to what is in your uninformed little mind.

However, Joe McCarthy was right though when he warned America that we have an enemy within.  They’re called Republicans.  And America needs to be purged of these filthy crooks, liars, hypocrites and fascist pig Republicans and the sooner the better.

Here, choke on this:
http://www.bushflash.com/14.html
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

By the way, you’re a typical nutjob from Texas.
And you obviously support kakistocratism over republican-style democracy.

Steve from Texas
May 1  at  8:36 am  |  #13  |  Link

Howdy Rob, here’s some definitions for you of “liberal”
#1 favorable to progress or reform as in political or religious affairs.
#2 pretaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform
#3 free from prejudice or bigotry, tolerant
#4 open-minded or tolerant not bound by traditional or conventional ideas or values.
Now politically speaking liberals don’t seem to measure up to their own definition. They are far from “tolerant” of conservative ideas and values.
liberals don’t come close to being “open-minded” of traditionalist religious and political values.
liberals are “prejudice and completely bigotrious” towards anyone other than themselves, because it’s their way or no way. “Progresssives” as they perfer to be called as opposed to “liberals” are constantly “reforming” themselves to the point of not having a sense of conventional wisdom.
One of the most defining traits of a liberal is name calling, because they don’t know how to win the debate and when confronted straight up on an issue they slip, weave, dodge and make a progressive move completely away from confrontation.
Rob, try looking up what I consider is a accurate definition of a liberal, “passive-aggressive” and you might inform yourself on who you are. Us “Nutjobs from Texas” are always willing to help the misinformed and political therapy is readily available.
As far as the late Senator Joe McCarthy is concerned, you might consider the fact he was hunting communist/socalist/leftist who were in our goverment, military and Liberalwood Mexifornia.
Hey by the way, aren’t Hugo and Castro leftist? The idea of “purging” America of anyone who disagrees with the left reminds me of another famous person named Satlin,wasn’t he a leftist as well.
Now try chocking on another word to look up “idiot or liar” which ever you perfer, and that is Nationalist. I’ll be waiting for your reply here in the Great State of TEXAS.

Steve from Texas
May 1  at  11:09 am  |  #14  |  Link

Hey, wait a cotton pick’n minute! After counting the names that Rob threw at me I think he should be dafted to pitch for the Boston Red Sox. He threw one sly curve “liar or idiot” two 99mph fasty “crooks & hypocrits” a sinker “fascist pig” and topped it off with two more sly curves “liar & nutjob from Texas”

Now that’s very typical of a far-left leftist, socialist, communist, liberal. But like we Texans say down here in the Great State of TEXAS, that’s expected from the lefties and we don’t mind, I’m sure Rob has been called worse.

By way Rob, that word you used “kakistocratism” is NOT found in the dictionary, it must be another liberal stick or stone to throw.

I’ll make a bet with you pal, after you look up the word Nationalist you’ll call me a nazi.

Tom J
May 2  at  1:07 pm  |  #15  |  Link

The facts are indeed mischaracterized. Read chapters 4-5 of “Dreams from My Father” to get the full picture, but here’s a quick summary.

Frank wasn’t a “father figure” or mentor, but a friend of Barack’s grandfather. The two of them were both from Wichita, Kansas although they didn’t know each other until they met in Hawaii. Obama was writing about the various people he knew growing up, each of whom had their own view of racial issues. Frank talked about the old days of Jim Crow in Kansas. What Obama thought about Frank’s view was this:
“It made me smile, thinking back on Frank and his old Black Power, dashiki self. In some ways he was as incurable as my mother, as certain in his faith, living in the same sixties time warp that Hawaii had created.”

In other words, Frank hadn’t moved on. Obama recognized that Frank’s world no longer existed, although Frank didn;t see that.

NOW do you get it?

MSGH
May 2  at  3:11 pm  |  #16  |  Link

The pity of it is: even if Davis once had some influence on Obama, it wasn’t enough.

C-These
May 2  at  4:26 pm  |  #17  |  Link

PRESIDENT OBAMA HUSSEIN OBAMA.  GET USE TO IT YOU #### FACES.

Tyrone
May 2  at  5:03 pm  |  #18  |  Link

Article II,section 1, paragraph four of the United States Consitution states: “ No Person except a natural born Citizen,shall be eligible to the Office of President;

John is no more eligible than Arnold is!!!!!!

John was born is Panama, while Arnold was born in Austria!!!!

Ain’t funny that the Republicians have no more respect for our Consitution than to nominate someone who isn’t even eligible for the office!

MSGH
May 2  at  5:27 pm  |  #19  |  Link

C-These:  Don’t look now, but your racism is showing.

intuitive confirmation
May 3  at  9:59 am  |  #20  |  Link

I haven’t trusted Obama from day 1.  I wanted to know where did he come from and who was behind him.  I have had many great reservations aabout his “truthfulness.” If you spend any time undertanding human nature, you know that people will tell you what you want to hear or what they want you to know.  With all of this money I see behind Obama, I question who is he the front man for?  A colition would make sense.  If you look at his website, you can see it took some planning and someone skilled to set up not to mention the cost.  Then every day I get junk mail to vote for Obama which is not cheap.  Next, everytime I go online there are Obama pop ups and ads every where.  Money is being spent like crazy.  I have never seen such a push to get someone nominated.  The man Obama is not a very good speaker.  He hesitates because the words he uses are not truly his.  When Obama actually speaks using his words, he sounds more like a preacher.  He focuses on change and the American dream.  Unfortunately, what we the people perceive as change, not politics as usual, and what is truly within the Obama agenda my not be the same.  What Obama says about change and the American dream could be an underlayment for socialism and communism.  Change from a democracy is evident and having it so every one can be the same is a no brainer also.
Be careful what you ask for because you just might get it.

Tom J
May 4  at  1:41 am  |  #21  |  Link

What a bunch of spin! Davis wasn’t a mentor and he wasn’t a father figure - just an old guy who played cards and drank whiskey with Barack’s grandfather, talked about Jim Crow in Kansas in the old days, and didn’t seem to notice the world had moved on.

From Wikipedia (all but the last sentences from material in Barack Obama’s “Dreams from My Father” chapters 4 and 5):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Marshall_Davis
In his autobiographical Dreams from My Father, US senator and Democratic party presidential candidate Barack Obama writes of “Frank”, a friend of his grandfather’s (they grew up 50 miles apart, near Wichita, although they didn’t know each other then), who told him about the days of Jim Crow in Kansas. Frank told Obama that college was about “leaving your race at the door, leaving your people behind” and being trained, not educated. As Obama remembered, “It made me smile, thinking back on Frank and his old Black Power, dashiki self. In some ways he was as incurable as my mother, as certain in his faith, living in the same sixties time warp that Hawaii had created."[15] This “Frank” was Davis.

Just A Guy From North Carolina
May 5  at  2:11 pm  |  #22  |  Link

Hey Steve From Texas:  why pick on the Red Sox?  The Yankees have a greater need for pitchers.

Hey Everyone Else:  this debate sure could use a little more civility.  Call yourself liberal or conservative, let’s discuss the ideas and not attack the people putting them forward.  Most (not all!) of these comments seem designed to generate more heat than light.

Steve from Texas
May 5  at  2:37 pm  |  #23  |  Link

Hello Guy from North Carolina, as far as having more civility in this debate, I agree. As far as a leftist liberal calling me a “liar or an idiot or both and a nutjob from Texas” sorry but them there are political fight’n words, and us Texans will always stand and fight. Our fighting spirit comes from our Texas Independence and Freedom from Mexico before becoming Americans.

I apologize for the Red Sox thing, personally it’s all about NASCAR to me.

Hey Tyrone, Panama (the Panama Canal) was an American territory back when McCain was born, making him an American citizen. That blows your “Ain’t it funny misinformed” slur to the Republicans out of the Canal water, now that’s funny.

MSGH
May 5  at  9:29 pm  |  #24  |  Link

Hi Steve from Texas,

Kakistocacy, the base form for “kakistocratism” is in the dictionary; you must just not have a big enough one.  It means “government by the worst or least qualified.”

Chris from Mississippi
May 5  at  10:49 pm  |  #25  |  Link

hello all i just read this thread today. im not one that knows alot about politics but earlier it was said that liberals are or at least partialy have socialist or communistic tendencies.

obama aside, which i believe has an agenda that does not reflect american values, hillary said the other night that she would lower the price of gas in thee now by taking away the federal tax per gallon. to keep this revenue for the gov. she would then tax the oil companies profits.

i know this sounds good right? i dnt believe it is though. if we start down the road of taking from the rich and giving to the poor then we are heading down a road that leads to wealth redistribution arent we? am i wrong? i know the oil companies are making record profits but dnt we live in a capatalistic free market society?

look leftist liberals believe in more government and more governmental control. they tell you you have to wear a seat belt, you have to get rid of your firearms, they tell us we need national health care, we need to change the constitution to be “up” with the times, we cant drill for oil, we cant build nuclear power plants (which may be the greenest energy available), and in general i think they would like us to ask if we may go to the restroom so they can allow that too.

i know im jumping around but im tired and just got off work. 

thats right i work. im not rich i dont own a business. i work for 11 bucks an hour and my wife is still in school. im one of those guys who is suppose to love what liberals are saying. because i believe they want people like me (working class) to feel bad that i have to work. im suppose to be mad because other people have things i dont. im suppose to hate people for being succesful. i believe they want people like me to be sucked into marxist ideals and theology. that those who have should give to those who dont. that the government should tell people what they should be able to make. and that the governmet should have total control over every aspect of life. well i dont.

and as for firearms. if we did ban handguns do you think it would stop there? no then it would be rifles then shotguns and then any firearm in general. then who is the only one with firearms? yup the government. the right to bear arms given by the constitution was meant as a means to overthrow a government that has gone astray. now i mean bad off not just that you dont agree with some small issue. but if no one had guns it would make it a bit easier to institute control by the ones who do have guns.

enough of my ranting i appologize if i offended anyone.

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