Accuracy in Media

POLITICO has run a piece citing various claims that President Obama is a practicing Christian of some sort. Nice try. But the article is entirely unconvincing.

Obama isn’t prevented from going to a Christian church and doesn’t cite security reasons for not attending. Instead, he “worries that his presence detracts from other worshippers’ experience,” the publication said. We are told he reads scripture and prays in private.

In 2008, when he first ran for president, the Obama campaign insisted he was a “committed Christian.” Glenn Greenwald, who later became NSA defector Edward Snowden’s mouthpiece, found Obama’s claim so alarming that he wrote an article for Salon about it. Greenwald, whose anti-American outlook includes Muslim sympathies, was apparently deeply concerned that Obama could, in fact, be a committed Christian.

We now understand that Obama’s Christian claim was as phony as his promise, “If you like your health care plan, you can keep it.”

POLITICO reports that Obama has “attended Sunday services only occasionally, visiting a patchwork of congregations 19 times in all since taking office, according to a POLITICO analysis of White House pool reports.” Further down in the story we learn that “In all, Obama has gone to services on about 6 percent of the Sundays of his presidency and just once on Christmas Day, in 2011, which also happened to be a Sunday.”

Another insight into Obama’s religiosity is when he tries to quote from the Bible or make religious references. He once compared Mary and Joseph to illegal aliens. Even The Washington Post admitted that was false. On another occasion, he said, “The good book says, don’t throw stones in glass houses.” But the Bible has no such quote.

It appears that this man of deep faith, as described by POLITICO, doesn’t even read the “good book” he likes to quote from. So what has he been doing in those private prayer and Bible study sessions?

But the story goes beyond mere hypocrisy.

When questions emerged about Obama’s religious affiliation, in view of his Muslim background, his aides flatly asserted that he was a “practicing Christian” and was “baptized” in the Trinity United Church of Christ. We examined that claim and found it wanting. As we noted at the time, “People see him [Obama] playing golf on Sunday; they don’t see him going to church.”

Obama’s claim to being baptized in the Christian faith is found in his second book, The Audacity of Hope, published in 2006. Obama wrote on page 208, “I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ one day and be baptized.” We argued that what Obama described sounds like a religious experience, but not what Christians regard as baptism.

Obama’s pastor for 20 years, Jeremiah Wright, gave a speech in which he praised Marxism and faulted the media for claiming that communism and Christianity were somehow opposed to one another.

It also turns out that Wright’s church accepted Muslims as members. Wright told author Edward Klein that he “made it comfortable” for Obama to accept Christianity “without having to renounce his Islamic background.”

Obama is now on vacation in Hawaii, and the White House is releasing details about his daily activities. “Like most Americans,” the White House proclaims, “President Obama is a creature of habit.” But church or Bible study doesn’t appear to be on his list of priorities. His activities are said to include:

  • Daily morning workout at the Semper Fit Center at MCBH [Marine Corps Base Hawaii]
  • Golf at the Kaneohe Klipper golf course
  • Golf at the Mid-Pacific Country Club
  • Golf at the Ko’olau Golf Club
  • Golf at the Royal Hawaiian Golf Club
  • Dinner at Alan Wong’s Restaurant
  • Dinner at Nobu Waikiki
  • Dinner at Morimoto Waikiki
  • Visit Punchbowl Cemetery
  • Snorkeling at Hanauma Bay
  • Christmas Day: Visit service members at Anderson Hall
  • New Year’s Eve: Traditional talent show at home
  • Bowling at K-Bay Lanes at MCBH
  • Basketball at MCBH
  • Swim at Pyramid Rock Beach
  • Swim at Bellows Beach
  • Shave Ice at Island Snow in Kailua
  • Hike the Maunawili Falls trail

One writer, Hrafnkell Haraldsson, a self-described heathen, didn’t like the POLITICO story for another reason. He doesn’t even like the topic of Obama’s religiosity being discussed. “It doesn’t matter if Obama goes to church or not,” he wrote. “It doesn’t matter if he is even a Christian, or, as conservatives often charge, a Muslim. In a word, it is nobody’s concern but that of Barack Obama himself.”

Of course, if Obama claims to be a Christian, and the evidence suggests otherwise, it is a significant story. That’s because his alleged Christianity was a factor in his 2008 and 2012 victories.

In 2008, for example, Catholics voted for Obama by a margin of 54-45. In 2012, the margin was 50-48.

Now, with his recognition and bailout of the Castro regime, he can count on Pope Francis being in his corner. It’s quite an achievement for a politician without a church.

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  • Poptoy1949

    I personally think he pretends to be a Christian. I also believe that the only GOD he believes in is the one he sees in the mirror. Yes, you are correct. I do not like his “I am GOD attitude”.

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  • Soxtory

    I agree it doesn’t matter if he is a Christian or not; if he lied about it, however, and is a closet Muslim, then he was lying about one more subject. Since we are at war with elements of the so called Muslim religion, the country needs to know. Even liberals know this is true.

  • Ted

    Like the previous poster, it doesn’t matter if obama goes to church or not!

    Some of the biggest and baddest Bible-carrying, fire-breathing and church-going “Christians” I know are also the most sinful, corrupt and hypocritical low-lives that I know! So … touting one’s self as a committed “Christian” … and showing off by going to church with great regularity … mean absolutely nothing.

    Besides … don’t all you wingnuts believe Obama is a Muslim, anyway???

  • John Cunningham

    Sorry! If I had to make a decision on what religion Barack Obama is practicing I would have to say Muslim. Think about it. His apology tour after being sworn in. His hands off the revolution in Iran in 2009. Also his Administrations front and back handed support for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Also his complete disdain for everything Israel.

    Anybody want to lay me odds that after his term is over and if he isn’t in Federal Prison, Barack Obama will then announce his Islamic heritage? I don’t want to get it all started again because the next thing you know we will be talking about where he was really born. When you come down to it, doesn’t matter. He is a louse in any book.

  • Capnmikey

    He is a practicing member of the Muslim Brotherhood, his White House is full of muslims and marxists, every act since inauguration has been anti-Israel, anti_Christian, and pro-Islam…he installed the Muslim Morsi in Egypt…a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood…and stands by as thousands of Christians are slaughrered in the Middle East…and bows to the King and Royal family of Saudi Arabia..his campaign donors and sponsors..he is a marxist, muslim, anti-American dictator…and rather ignorant for a Harvard grad…but quite the student of Alinsky, Cloward and Piven, Kommie Kagan, George Soros, and now our new marxist Pope!! Viva Ch’e! Viva Castro! Viva Chavez!

  • wyatt81

    Of course it matters what you believe and how you practice it. Obama has made it quite clear where he is coming from and what mattters most to him. His supporters and followers do likewise. And the country shows the results of it. As for hypocrites, they come in all shapes, sizes, and beliefs-not just Christian. Hypocrites aren’t the measure of a belief system. That Obama pretends to be a Christian, though-and allows others to bolster that claim-what does that make him?

  • JW

    Funny how you managed to insert Greenwald’s name in there. Predictable, but funny. I actually have to tip my hat to you on this one for tenacity.

  • Drifter12

    The pretense is more than a little thin…

  • Drifter12

    No… I don’t think he believes in that, either

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  • AndRebecca

    What is your idea of a wingnut, a non-Marxist?

  • AndRebecca

    And his creators were his totally Marxist family. He’s a Red Diaper baby.

  • AndRebecca

    The Congregational Church of today has modern day Unitarian beliefs. The Unitarians, since colonial days, have made inroads into the “liberal” churches. What they believe today differs from what they used to believe. In the 1960s these folks were behind the leftist demonstrations around the country, and today they are behind the homosexual movement, and they are fine with Muslims and especially Marxists in their churches. Don’t believe me, though, they are pretty open about their beliefs, so google it. Better yet, go to a church of theirs. Unitarians used to believe in “one God,” now they believe in anything except Christianity. They are not Christians and are the ultimate hypocrites, since they make the claim that their beliefs came from Jesus. And, yes you can be a Muslim and claim church membership in these churches. The Congregational Churches believe in exactly whatever the Left is pushing today.

  • jadegreen_eyz

    He has no church and has no soul, he bartered that away years ago.

  • jb1111

    My thoughts exactly. This man is an Opportunist and nothing else.
    Marxism is his God.

  • jb1111

    Obama LIES about Everything.
    He is a Pathological LIAR.

  • jb1111

    We believe Obama is a Muslim/Aetheist by his ACTIONS.

  • Pop

    Is he a Muslim (a follower of the religion of Islam)… Yes…..
    Taqiyya and Kitman….Yes

    I think extreme narcissism is at play when we talk about Dictator Barack Hussein Obama II.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Jeremiah Wright’s liberation theology is based on marxist liberation from the father’s voice that rebukes and chastens sin. Karl Marx understood the link between the fear of Godly judgment and moral behavior. (Feuerbach thesis #4) Those who praxis liberation theology negate the judgment of God, so that sinful man never comes to a place where he sees his sinful condition and need for a savior. It is a deception, holding back critical information concerning the doctrine of salvation. The true gospel message is that the LORD Jesus Christ gave His life, and shed His blood on the cross of Calvary under the full judgment of God the Father. Jesus Christ endured the wrath of God in sinful man’s place, so that man might be reconciled to God through repentance and faith in His blood. The love of God is not without the wrath of God. Man is not convicted of his sin, when a God of judgment is not preached. This type of preaching will never bring Holy Ghost conviction. Liberation theology in the modern “churches” today, denies the power of God. The Holy Ghost of God is nowhere around them.

    Obama’s spiritual advisor is Jim Wallis, also a liberation theologian. He is the leader of Sojourners, the leading “social justice” organization the U.S. Wallis was once a chapter president of Students for a Democratic Society, a violent communist group. Wallis promotes fallacies like collective salvation. In light of liberation theology, organizing for “social justice” is simply “moral” posturing after liberation theory has created more sin in society. In other words, removal of Godly restraint creates more ills in society, which in turn calls for more removal of Godly restraint – for as long as they can keep the game going.

    As radical as leaders such as Jeremiah Wright and Jim Wallis are, marxian liberation theology is taught in a good number of churches today. Never mind that Marx was an admitted atheist and even a Satanist, according to Richard Wurmbrand in his book “Marx and Satan.” You will find calls for world government and “social justice” at the UMC “Church and Society” website. Contemporary “churches” preach a liberation theology message. Many so-called “Christians” voted for Obama because they resonate with the liberation ideology that he espouses, on some level.

    Obama has shown that he believes the answers to American’s sinful condition are best solved by more government, not by more Godly men and Godly churches. In effect, Obama wants to replace reliance on God, with reliance on government. Or what the Apostle Paul called “another gospel.” Obama’s mockery of conservatives who rebuke unrighteousness reveals his paradigm. Obama’s vow to fundamentally change America, flies in the face of the Founding Father’s way of thinking that held man to be basically sinful and therefore government needed to be restrained.

    The more man obeys the rebuke and chastening of God, the freer he is from the lusts of the flesh and the pride of life. Obama has it backwards.

  • pablocruize

    Questioning Obama religious beliefs is RACIST!

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  • Steven Barrett

    Cliff, remember what Jesus said about judging others? Funny how the right wing said little or nothing about Reagan’s lack of regular attendance within his Presbyterian denomination. Oh yes, there’s the “security aspect.” Come to think about it, the same “aspect” remains for Obama, the single most threatened President in our history. Things sure take on a different hue when the president to be skewered over his church-going habits or lack thereof, just happens to be black and his deceased father happened be a Muslim from Kenya.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    …and just happens that his mentor was Frank Davis Marshall, and just happens that his momma attended the little red church in Washington state, and just happens that he was a revolutionary communist in college, and just happens that he taught Saul Alinsky at the U of I Chicago, and just happens that he launched his political career at the house of unrepentant marxist Bill Ayers, and just happens that he was a member of the marxist Illinois New Party, and just happens that his advisor Valerie Jarret is a communist, and just happens that her father was a communist…

  • 2summer4

    Reagan never made a big deal out of religion like Obama does. He constantly talks about “his Christian religion” and sitting for 20 years in a church. He wrote about it in books. What’s he trying to prove? And that race card is so 2008.

  • JohnEffKerry

    Marxism is a religion. Marxist simply replace God with “The State”. They worship the state, Present Øbama worships himself. It isn’t a long walk to conclude that Present Øbama is a Marxist.

  • mimi jacques

    Rev. right’s Church apparently follows the Liberation Theology (socialism+religion)- and taking Obama’s background in Indonesia being influenced by the Islam and communism of Bandung Conference (including Kenya)- it is easier to see how he was member of the Wright church- the same outlook. It also explains how Turkey’s (then)PM Erdogan sold Obama the doctrine of Political Islam -with reverberations of Obama backing MB in ME. One always thought that if the Obamas were practicing Christians- their daughters would have had the Confirmation by now.

  • Okeydoker

    Of course he is a muslim. Only a moron cant read the obvious tea leaves.

  • Shootingstar

    Makes you wonder about Michelle’s role in all this obvious deception. Maybe her price is all these lavish vacations , wardrobe, personal assistants, makeovers, etc.

  • Bertharina Rina

    Hogorina- Says:
    January 1st, 2015 at 3:23 pm

    There are only two sources of wealth in the world; our abundant resources created and provided to us by our Creator/Savior, and our labor to refine them to suit our needs and desires. The corporate fiction creature image governments of men ultimately evolve into oppressive and tyrannical tools of greedy international “banksters” and our ancient antichrist Edomite/Canaanite adversaries and their puppet political prostitutes to rob us of our wealth, but we cannot blame our antichrist adversaries and their proselytes, we must blame ourselves. Our antichrist Edomite/Canaanite adversaries, said to be “the vessels of wrath fitted for destruction” and “man of sin” in scripture are merely profiting on our own iniquity (lawlessness) by the will and Laws of our Creator/Savior just as He said would happen if and when we, as His covenant people, Israel, now known as Caucasian Christians, would violate His Commandments, statutes, and judgments by bowing in fear, worship, support, and dependence upon other “gods.,” thereby allowing His Laws to be made of no effect, as in protecting the abomination punishable by death according to our Creator/Savior’s Law, homosexuality, and the practice of usury for which our Creator/Savior also prescribes the death penalty.

    HOG: When will citizens awaken to the fact that our federal government is in the hands of an invisible syndicate of Marxian orientated confederated operatives laboring in the hands of an elite and invisible global satanically organized gang that is evolving Western Christian civilization right into BOLSHEVISM ?

  • omarie

    NO, it is NOT! So, when JFK was questioned about his religious beliefs, that was racist too? Your an idiot!

  • omarie

    Nah….. To busy looking in the mirror to notice anyone else UNLESS he can benifit from them.

  • omarie

    Not sure if he is or isn’t. If he’s anything, his agnostic.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    “Some of the biggest and baddest Bible-carrying, fire-breathing and
    church-going “Christians” I know are also the most sinful, corrupt and
    hypocritical low-lives that I know!”

    Expound upon the “hypocritical low-lives.” What kind of Bible are they using? What denomination do they attend? What sins are they committing?

  • Dr_Albert_Gortenbull

    The God King is the prophet of his own religion. His religion is based on the tenants of the Muslim and Christian religions. Albert

  • Hugh Janus

    Obama is a traitor to America. Easy to see.

  • Hurrah

    I never hear about Obama having Christians working for him in the White House. Muslims, yes.

    By their fruits, ye shall know them. Of course, he’s a muslim. Ever hear him talking about the Holy Bible or call Jesus his personal Lord And Savior? No. But calling the Koran holy and that the future ‘does not belong to those who insult islam’, yes.

    Interesting that he visits the mosques wherever he goes – but of the hundreds of great cathedrals – only one , in early 2009 –

    but mosques?

    Interesting the media never comments on it.

    Interesting that no one else does either.

  • toddyo1935

    Jihad Barry. Just name one thing he’s done to advance the interests of the American citizen at any level – foreign or domestic. As for advancing the world caliphate he was exhorted to by the Pakistani Minister of Industry, even his lifestyle at the cost of the common man is exemplary for a caliph.

  • amongoose

    I’m quite sure he reads and prays in private.
    Reads the Quran, and prays on a rug.

  • Chris G

    “We are told he reads scripture and prays in private.”

    I wouldn’t doubt that one bit. The question is, which scripture, & to whom?

  • Chris G

    TREASON is his method.

  • Chris G

    Shouldn’t he be in jail by now?

  • Chris G

    I believe Obama is a TRAITOR.

  • Chris G

    THANK YOU for standing up & saying so.

  • Chris G

    To “allah”.

  • Neo

    Obama wears religion like a suit, and he puts it on and takes it off as such.

  • breakitdown420

    he has a prayer rug which White House custodial services has to roll up and prepare for his use every day

  • HJD

    The single most threatened president in our history? Really? Where are you getting your facts?

  • Steven Barrett

    Hard as hell to hold a conversation with hate mongers and bigots. You’ve hated this guy before he was nominated, elected and still love hating the hell out of the guy. He’s the President. He’s been elected twice to the highest office in the land. Get over it. If you can’t at least respect the office, or salute the rank, shut the hell up with all your cheap shots that sound exactly like Fox News Channel’s scripts. What the hell has the right wing contributed since the collapse of the economy which its devotion to dog-eat-dog lowest form of “capitalism” greatly helped to bring about. Seems like the economy’s going pretty well lately. And during whose administration? Why none other than the president you guys love to spew your twisted hate-inspired drivel at.
    The real conservatism of the Buckley’s, Vierecks, Kirks and other far greater minds from the not exactly too distant past is as dead as they are. Congrats for killing off a once great movement. How does one “conserve” what he’s been working so hard to pour sugar in its crankcase every time he gets a chance, spike the tires and shut down the gears of the national government every time the spoiled brats can’t get their way.
    What WOULD the greats of the older and far more spiritually, civil-minded and fiscally mindful (i.e., frugal but not cheap for the sake of being cheap as if being the cheapest s.o.b. on the block was something to brag about) Republicans and conservatives in general have to say about this rabble of Ayn Rand disciples? Yes, what would Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower have to say about this rabble? Perhaps nothing because they’d turn away in shame.

  • labman57

    The POTUS belongs to the Church of “None of our F*cking Business!”

    Contrary to conservative dogma, one’s religious affiliations should not dictate the policy positions of those elected to public office.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    You agreed to the genocide of traditional culture. Purging the culture of the family father, moral values and decency. The lives that have been ruined by cultural marxist subversion cannot be counted.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    George Washington disagreed.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    The men who fought and died for freedom and the principles this nation was founded upon, would be ashamed of the posterity who supported a communist. It is the man you are defending that has no shame.

  • Steven Barrett

    I didn’t have much time to read through, er skim, through the vast majority of replies above. Wow, did I tap into a Mother(lode) of Anti-Obama/Ant-Muslim and anti-foreigner hate threads! I always thought the Tea Party had a knack of attracting lots of different haters, but I wasn’t aware that the Know-Nothings who specialized back in the ante-bellum years, in spreading similar hatred long held as infallible po-litical “gospel truth” by far too many mouth-breathing troglodytes of their time against Catholics, has now been reorganized to give Muslims and the present President of the United States, a Black, no less, whom they (falsely contend is a crypto-Musliim … no doubt pronounced as Moooslim) the same kind of good ol’ “American welcome” they extended to some of President Obama’s Irish Catholic ancestors. Even the fact he has some white ancestry in his background doesn’t help the President.
    C’mon, though, in the interest of fairness, why don’t some of you fellows n’ ladies (as if any self-respecting woman would want to have her reputation tinged n’ tainted with any association with today’s neo Know-Nothings) go after a couple of bona fide good old fashioned “conserative” GOP religious rascals within your own ranks; to wit, Rep. Stephen Fincher, R-TN, Frog Jump … no kiddin’ that’s his home town; you can’t make that stuff up, esp. when this good ol’ entreprenurial-minded solon representing TN’s far western cotton fields hard by the MIssissippi River goes out of his way to brag about the dot on the map. Yeah, Stephen Fincher’s an entreprenurial solon alright; he’s managed to bag millions of food subsidy funds you and I have all paid for through our taxes, all the while he shameslessly brags about scalping funds from SNAP and other programs for low income folks. “Why, are there no cotton fields to work in?” Oh, and this bright-eyed blonde WASP good ol’boy who was schooled by a former Jesuit on the House floor for such a proligate display in hypocrisy, had the temerity to counter the California Rep., the ex-Jes-uit by quoting from the Good Book as if Juan Vargas, a laicized Jesuit priest never cracked the book open himself. Fincher was not too plussed when Rep. Vargas pointed to MT 25. That was back in 2013. In the interest of fairness, here’s Fincher’s defense found in his website. ( ) Vargas was the wrong guy to give a sermon-on-the-floor reminder about the dangers of cherry picking for a hell of a lot more reasons than sharing theological debating points and pleasing the folks back home on CSPAN.
    Fewer outrageous displays in hypocritical religiosity can be found than that of former Army Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin’s antics. This West Pointer, and MacArthur wannabe who doesn’t shy from attacking any POTUS of any party for not taking some holy righteous cause of Christendom straight to the Muslim infidels, (or whatever term he’s prone to insulting Muslims with on any given moment) … he’s just a piece o’ work, folks. Just like that blowhard Douglas MacArthur, one of the most incompetent generals in our history to date. But oh, because “Dug Out Doug” had enough chutzpah to openly question his Commander in Chief, Harry Truman, a mere haberdasher from Independence, MO, not a scion of the east coast establishment and West Pointer like the Generalissimo himself, it’s as if time stopped for some all-too DC-esconced pachyderms who yearn for a revival of that moment when Truman made a “martyr” out of the old soldier … because now we have MacArthur Redoux in Boykin.
    Boykin is a genuine hero for his combat record is indeed one to be admired. But when the general stepped across the line into politics, mixing it with a virulent strain of “Christianity” (Jesus Christ would’ve been tempted to pull out his whippet saved for His Temple cleansing), even before he was rather politely shown the door. That was during W’s administration. He’s become even more virulent since. ( ) Gotta admit it, Gen’l Jerry’s a hard guy to top in this respect.
    He’s entitled to his beliefs and share his version of the Gospel. He is after all, an ordained minister. But there’s something that’s just more than simply “off-putting” about this man and the kind of Christianity he’s espousing and wants to jam down the Pentagon for its official embrace and acceptence; especially when we’re in a several front war with some of the kinds of Muslims that can only give the Boykins and their fellow bunch such bogus “Onward Christian Soldiers” moments. Oops, how could I forget, “Deus Vult Est” moments, too.
    I’m a former service dependent and both extremely proud and grateful for my father’s dedicated career in the Air Force to serve our nation. Maybe it’s our Catholic background, especially New England Irish Catholic background that my dad wasn’ hesitant in the least in sharing when it came to calling out the bullshitters and bogtrodders like the Boykins within the military for what they were then and (sadly) haven’t learned to stop being now. Guys like Boykin are dangerous; plain and simple because they create more America-haters than admirers of this greatest nation on earth. We will always be the greatest nation, bar none; But let’s face it, there are some people and their followers and fellow travelers who have this knack of giving our beloved nation the biggest self-inflicted black eyes and reputations. I won’t go so far as to blame Boykin for the rise of ISIS, but I also can’t help wondering how much fuel his nonsense has contributed at least in some part to so much hatred for us abroad, the Middle East.
    I’ll stand by Pope Francis and every moderate and sensibly minded non-Catholic Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu and Buddhist against the likes of Boykinism. He’s not just a bigoted bullshittin’ bogtrodder; worse, he’s trodding through his bogs spewing his brand of hatred while wearing our Flag wrapped around himself.

  • labman57

    George Washington also owned slaves. Are you down with that as well?

    Point being that the personal beliefs of the Founding Fathers must be viewed in the proper context when used to dictate (or even discuss) 21st century Americana.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Where do you get off on accusing people of hate? There is no hate like your hate. You hate traditional American values; the family father figure, moral values, and respect for authority. Your hate is a slow, wicked torture of perversity on an innocent culture for over 75 years.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Spoken like a true marxist. Marxists are outspoken enemies of the founders and this country. Would be nice if the personal beliefs of Karl Marx got the same treatment you give the founders.

  • labman57

    Marxist? Seriously, is that the best you can do?

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Well, Karl Marx’s authority was satan, he is your top slavemaster.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    “We will make you rotten to the core.” – Jerome Livshitz, Communist Party

    “One can rightfully speak of a cultural revolution, since the protest is directed toward the whole cultural establishment, including the morality of existing society…there is one thing we can say with complete assurance: the traditional idea of revolution and the traditional strategy of revolution has ended. These ideas are oldfashioned… What we must undertake is a type of diffuse and dispersed disintegration of the system.” – Herbert Marcuse

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    The only window you can discuss the Founding Fathers in the “21st century” is in the dialectic.

  • labman57

    So in your little world, anyone who believes in the ‘separation of church and state’ must be a Communist, eh?
    I suppose you have a large portrait of Joseph McCarthy hanging over your fireplace …

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Oh, bright and intelligent one… I am not worthy… I am just a little man with limited knowledge.

    “ARTICLE 124. In order to ensure to citizens freedom of conscience, the church in the U.S.S.R. is separated from the state, and the school from the church. Freedom of religious worship and freedom of anti-religious propaganda is recognized for all citizens.”

    – Soviet Constitution 1936

  • AndRebecca

    We have a “Baptist” mega church where I live and they are along the lines of Warren’s. Recently, it has come out that Jim Jones of Koolaid fame was a Marxist, and Jim Wallis the “evangelist” who founded Sojourners is a Marxist. Jimmy Carter renounced the Southern Baptists once again, and is now associated with a Baptist group which sanctions homosexual marriage among other things. Heretics all.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    As far as McCarthy, the Soviet Union was our ally in WWII. The U.S. had 130 communists working in Washington for the war. When the war was over, most of those guys moved into the state department. Doesn’t seem too hard a thing to grasp. But again, I am just a little man of humble schooling.

  • AndRebecca

    His step-father was also Muslim. If it isn’t a problem for him to be a Muslim, why are you having a problem discussing it?

  • AndRebecca

    You sound confused.

  • AndRebecca

    Why do Leftists like yourself, have to say bigoted things about people you don’t agree with?

  • AndRebecca

    A few of us still like the body of laws they set up for us. Washington also wrote on manners.

  • AndRebecca

    I guess it doesn’t matter where he was born either, or what any of his beliefs are. Just exactly what does matter about the people we put in the office? What about his golf game, any thoughts on that?

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Jim Jones was indeed a communist. I think I heard that about Carter. I have met him, he gave me the creeps.

    Rick Warren follows the model of Bill Hybels’ Willow Creek Church in suburban Chicago. The model is based on dialectic process. Social psychology and marketing techniques. What Hybels did was go out into the neighborhoods and ask the people what they wanted in a church. So if you ask the world what it wants in a church, you will create a worldly church. Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven life is a wicked book. He puts Jim Jones to shame. I believe it is indeed associated with a mountain in California, but Google “saddleback” in images sometime. The word is quite revealing.

    “These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.” – Jude 1:19

    I do not endorse the NIV Bible he uses, but Paul Washer’s Ten Indictments does a good job of “indicting” marxist infiltration of the church. I am an Independent Baptist, I don’t believe the church should have a national organization lording over what the local church can and cannot do. Not to mention taking the tithes. So I agree that Washer is spot on, but he won’t see too much change under a national umbrella. Worth watching.

  • labman57

    Ah, a birther has crawled out from the depths to offer her two cents worth …

  • AndRebecca

    Well, it doesn’t matter to you where he was born? Why not? Simple question.

  • AndRebecca

    I’m going to try again to put in a website This one relating to a comment about the separation of church and state. It seems it’s fine for Leftists to use churches to get their way, but there’s a different standard for actual religious people. And religion in schools is fine too, if it meets the secular-humanist view of religion. Thanks for all of your info. Let’s see if this works.

  • labman57

    The nature of the irrational, delusional mind of the birther is that you will continue to insist that ANY document proving Obama was born in Hawaii must be, by definition, a forgery.

    Because you know what you know, and that’s all that you WANT to know. Absolute state of denial.

  • AndRebecca

    I have been doing genealogical research for a few years now and have seen lots of birth certificates. The one for Obama which was on the web a few years ago did not look like a legitimate BC to me. Have you seen that BC document and have you looked at even your own BC? Do you think you could spot a forged check written in your name? I doubt it. BTW, the favorite communist line about Christians is that they are delusional. A sure giveaway regarding your orientation.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Thank you. I will check it out.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Right. They want to bring all the religions together into an ecumenical church. They will reveal more and more their occult spirituality – as opposed to atheism – as they go along.

    They use dialectic process, which is no different than a soviet council form of governance:

  • labman57

    Curious circular logic:
    You seem to believe that anyone who questions the public policy positions of Christian conservatives must be a Communist, and then imply that my assertion that such a belief is delusional is proof that I must be a Communist.

    You must have a 6th sense :
    “I see RED people … they’re everywhere …”

  • AndRebecca

    Back to the subject you brought up. I believe Obama was born in Hawaii, and due to the fact that his illegitimate birth would have been recorded as such on his BC, they put a forged BC out there. His mother was a communist after all, and could care less about having a traditional family. Ditto, his grandparents. Since the end justifies the means, lying is O.K., and is anti-Biblical as well. His father would have been considered a bigamist had he actually married all the mothers of his children, and stayed married to them all at the same time. Now, his mother may have married the step-father since it would have suited her purposes. Obama was called Barry Sotero (sp?) for a long while there. Use your reason instead of your feelings once in a while.

  • AndRebecca

    I think the saying is something like “They see a Red under every bed.” the communists made that saying popular in the 1950s. The “delusional Christian” thing was invented long before that…I first I read of it, in a book by V.I. Lenin, but have heard it used lately as well. Lenin was anti-American white people, and he had just stated they were the smartest people in the world, but that they were delusional, and that was why they believed in Christianity. White Americans are smart but delusional according to communist racial theory. Read your guys.

  • Steven Barrett

    My wife of three decades, four adult children, future son-in-law, brothers, friends, pastors, conservative fellow churchgoers, local KofC Brothers, et al and past writing associates, local newspaper publishers would certainly find your post quite amusing.

    You seem to be suffering from a common intellectual impairment so many righties have been afflicted with: Tea Party/Fox News, McCarthyist-MacArthurism. Get over it and you’ll start experiencing more cloudless days ahead.

    Y’know … it’s not impossible to have conservative values without linking oneself up with the most reactionary elements of what is now a dwindling remnant of a much larger and more respectable conservative movement guided in past by truly conservative thinkers. It’s not impossible. Try opening your eyes as well.

    BTW, what’s so pro-family about supporting more self-serving hypocritical parasites like Fincher who sees no problem screwing over far more eligibly qualified poored old folks and kids by shorting them out of their abilities to put more food on their tables all the while voting to cut what’s left after (sigh, legally) grabbing what he could out of an already vulnerable and venerable governmental service. Never mind what Jesus would do; I’d be more interested in hearing what he’d say to Fincher, e/a and watch the reaction on his face while the Lord was schooling him and his fellow ilk.

    As for Boykin . . . just what we need, another otherwise hero gone off the rails because of his contemporary version of neo-McCarthyist MacArthurism. That’s not “conservatism,” nor entirely all that great a display of disciplined patriotic fervor. It’s just egotism on ‘roids.

    BTW, what’s that old film about Westinghouse got to do with this topic? Don’t tell me, God foreordained those women to work for crap wages because their social and economic overlords determined so based, no doubt, on their very selectively cherry picked verses. Geesh, the Pharisees are a tough thick lot to deal with. Just as they were for Jesus, 2,000+plus years ago.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    “Geesh, the Pharisees are a tough thick lot to deal with. Just as they were for Jesus, 2,000+plus years ago.”

    It was Jesus who said “as many as I love I rebuke and chasten, be zealous therefore and repent!” Revelation 3:19

    The Bible says in Ephesians 5:11 “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” (KJV)

    Christians are to reprove the unfruitful works of darkness.

    Anyone who has a read a Bible understands that God’s called out servants risked their lives to rebuke the people of their sin.

    But if you do that today, you are called a “Pharisee.” That is a lie perpetuated by Karl Marx and his followers..

    Marx said “Once you discover the earthly family is the secret of the heavenly family, the former must be annihilated through theory and praxis.” (Karl Marx, Freuerbach Thesis #4)

    Marx understood that the earthly family was working in the same way that Jesus and the prophets were. Rebuking and chastening sin, working out God’s righteousness. Marx said once you discover this is God’s secret, you need to destroy the family.

    How do you destroy the family? Call them Pharisees. Dictators. Venomous. Prejudiced. Mean spirited. Silence their authority. No, in fact, spit on their authority! Empower the sinners.

    The root of all this nation’s ills is Karl Marx and his followers’ coup in recognizing that if you can silence the father’s voice that rebukes and chastens, you can liberate SIN! That’s what “liberation” is all about.

    Cultural marxist Kurt Lewin said “The negative valence of a forbidden object which in itself attracts the child thus usually derives from an induced field of force of an adult.” “If this field of force loses its psychological existence for the child the negative valence also disappears.” (Kurt Lewin, A Dynamic Theory of Personality -1935)

    In the 1930’s, I doubt too many Americans were theorizing on how the removal of the existence of the old fashioned whooping was key in the removal of the “negative valence,” or the conscience of right and wrong. But the people whose views you subscribe to were.

    Richard Wurmbrand suffered altogether 14 years of brutal torture in communist Romania prisons. Wurmbrand testified before a congressional subcommittee in 1966, on being called a “pharisee” by leftists. He said ‘In Rumania you are allowed to say as much as you like that God is good. You are not allowed to say that the Devil is bad. St. John the Baptist could have saved his life if he had said: “Repent because the kingdom of heaven is near.” Nobody would have touched him. He was touched when he said, “You, Herod, are bad.” If Christ would have delivered a thousand “Sermons on the Mount” they would not have crucified Him. They crucified Him when He said, “You vipers,” then He was crucified. In Rumania you can say God is good but you can’t say “communism is cruel, they commit atrocities, it is a crime to poison children with atheism.” If you do this you go to prison. There are many priests, rabbis, and pastors who compromise and don’t put the dot on the “i.” There exists the real church and the real religion and that which compromises.’

    What is the word for martyr in Greek? Witness.

    It shouldn’t come as a surprise that when you take God out of the schools, all that is left are the doctrines of those who are the enemies of our nation. They’ve done exactly what Hitler, Stalin and every other communist dictator has done. They’ve taken our fathers and shot them, so they could feed their propaganda to a new generation. Read their books, their media and adopt their attitudes, at your own peril.

    As for those poor women at Westinghouse, they were better dressed than all of the women you will find in public today, except, perhaps, the wealthiest and the anabaptists/mennonites, who still make their own clothing. I guarantee you, the fabric on their dresses was of such thick and quality material that it would put today’s apparel to shame. And why did their dresses hit the ground? Because even a leftist understands that America was a Bible based culture that knew that exposing women’s flesh was a sin. It was a rebuke and chastening against temptation. We had a lot of “pharisees” back then.

    Again, remove the rebuke and chastening and you can liberate SIN. Welcome to America 2015.

    Pride will blind you. It is one of the three sins common to all man in the Bible. Lust of the eyes, lust of the flesh and the pride of life. When you start thinking that your generation is more sophisticated than the generations who shed their blood for freedom before you, then you are in trouble. When you start thinking that your generation is more sophisticated because you’ve got all this stuff and yet sin abounds all around you, then you are in trouble. When your fathers paid the price in blood for freedom from evil and you sit there reaping the rewards in abundance and sin and rebellion against your father’s authority, your very soul is in trouble. Both the Bible and history confirm it, but men today in their pride think they are somehow smarter than all of God’s authority and history.

  • JW

    Your reply to my post is off topic, I didn’t even mention Obama.

  • Steven Barrett

    In your opinion, what’s the “real church” and by specifically praising the dresses worn by the Westinghouse employees, are you suggesting an embrace of sort of Christianized Taliban like dress and behavior conduct in our nation?
    And, have you given much thought to comfort and safety concerns for women required by bosses to wear such outfits again (it’s NOT going to happen, but I’m just asking to get a better gauge of where you’re heading) — ‘what say you’ as O’Reilly would ask.
    Something tells me I won’t have to wait long before some Rushdooneyisms start appearing in this thread. You do know what century you’re living in now. Am I correct?

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    I’m not a follower of “Rushdooney”, but I do know that the late Howard Phillips was. You may not, but I have a great amount of respect for Howard Phillips. Howard was not like the conservatives of 2015 who sway like reeds in the wind.

    I have been blessed to have Paul Broun as a congressman.

    It doesn’t matter what my opinion of the “real” church is. The only thing that matters is what God and His Word say that the “real” church is. The Bible is very clear both in the Old and New Testament that there has always been a small remnant of true believers who followed God. If you are looking for attributes of the “real” church then, “narrow is the way” and “few there be that find it” is a good place to begin your search. The Bible also gives a clear picture of what constitutes apostasy. Religion alone does not get the job done.

    Ofcourse, modern Bible versions work to make the Bible more adaptable to the humanism of the 21st century. I am a King James only adherent, because it is translated from the received texts.

    The argument on women’s dress is a cultural one (I say this from a Constitutional perspective, the Bible is clear on women’s dress.) I believe in the free will of man. I am not promoting a view on an established religious state similar to the Taliban. However, George Washington did warn our nation in his farewell address regarding apathy toward Bible morality. And yes, Washington made clear the distinction between secular morality and religious morality. Washington then said that those who were apathetic toward attempts to shake the moral foundations of this country were not sincere friends of “free government.” I wonder how many so called conservatives today would measure up to Washington’s definition of sincere friends of free government.

    Cultural marxists like Antonio Gramsci and Herbert Marcuse stated with confidence that subverting America through the culture would replace the old marxist strategy of revolution for doing what? For overthrowing a country.

    The fact is that our nation has been demoralized through the culture by marxists for years. The debate might be verboten, but the facts are indisputable. Over that time, conservatives have done nothing but abandon their position and gradually move to the left.

    In the Old Testament, Nebuchadneezar’s army held Tyre at siege for 13 years before the city fell. In those days men would take battering rams to try and break through the doors of a walled city. Tyre held their ground for 13 years, but the relentless siege prevailed. Why? Because Tyre was under the judgment of God. The only thing that saves a people from a battering ram is getting right with God. If conservatism does not embrace Biblical morality, the movement is wasting its time.

    So yes, It is a fact that an attribute of the “true” church is separation from the world. And separation does not look like the world. From a Bible perspective, it is clear how women ought to dress. From a cultural perspective, the question is how much is the culture influenced by the church and how much is it influenced by marxism.

    You don’t know even know what those women were doing, so your labor union concern on safety is without merit. If you were truly concerned about the well being of women, then you would not be defending the shameless promotion of immoral values on their souls. Marxists just want a community of worker bees, so their hypocrisy is easy to spot.

    “Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, to day, and for ever.” – Hebrews 13:8

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    O’ Reilly is an Obama boot licker as far I am concerned.

  • AndRebecca

    You need to hit the “see more” to understand the old film. It is part of set of three. You are really up on the Leftist talking points. You haven’t left out a single cliché.

  • Steven Barrett

    Ted, you only need to look at the voting records of Stephen Fincher and Scott DeJarlais, both Republican Congressmen from Tennessee. Hold your nose while reading. They’re both stinkers to the high heavens. Fincher, if might recall, is the west TN Rep. from “Frog Jump,” (real place, LOL) who’s legally made off with millions of taxpayer paid for farm subsidies for himself all the while voting to scalp funds out of SNAP and Meals on Wheels. I guess in his limited mindset, no poor kids or old folks who failed to be blessed n’ highly favored enough during their working years didn’t make it into the uber one percent of ’em all, the faux number of God’s supposedly preselected handpicked “chosen.” In olden times whenever stingy old Yankee Republicans in my native New England ever pulled that stuff, you knew the “frozen chosen” were hard at work. (Hell, you can go to NH and find that kind of stingy-cold-as-Mt.-Washington-hell) mentality in Concord, NH, or any Republican party headquarters in the granite state.)
    Notwithstanding DesJarlais’ personal peccadillos, pressured abortions, and seamy on-goings, let’s take his lack of support for any bill designed to bar parents from bringing their kids to watch dog and chicken fights. That it has to take somebody to file federal legislation to get parents to demonstrate more common sense when it comes to what they bring their kids to watch in terms of live “entertainment,” and a congressman finds himself more sufficiently hooked by some psycho-ideological hangup over the whether or not the Founding Fathers intended for the national or any government to have a say in these matters, these bloodthirsty spectacles that benumb kids at an early age to what violence really means to animals, and their kids’ own psyche . . . what the hell more info do people who support the slow nutritional and emotional starvation of kids all the while thumping their Bibles n’ chests in displays of self-righteous hypocrisy.

  • Steven Barrett

    Unfortunately, I was unable to hear any of the audio. “Leftist talking points” and cliches. I’m smiling as I’m replying, also while trying to figure out what the hell it’s going to take before the party of Teddy Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln, and even more recently Dwight Eisenhower finally comes to its senses and see where their radical embrace of the most dog-eat-dog socio-economic policies and schemes, (er, scams really.)

    Lots of Republicans today (and some woefully misguided heretical Democrats) have been hanging around the wrong temple lately. It’s the one where its highest priests of the gospel of William Graham Sumner, far from what the humble traveling Rabbi of Nazareth imparted with his 12 Apostles.

    Whose gospel do the Republicans really want to follow, despite all their pious and billowy nonsensical calls to bring us back to the Bible and what the Founding Fathers laid down for us. Well, which Bible for a secular state? Catholic or Protestant or the Torah? How ’bout the Koran?

    And for all the calls for us to bring us all back to the same Biblical principles that guided our Founding Fathers, let’s remember that more than a few of those Fathers the right loves to genuflect when hearing those very words, “Founding Fathers,” happened to own human beings to do all their work and even to keep ’em from getting lonely in bed at night. What a coincidence that most, if not all of those love-starved slave-owning Fathers and their biggest backers all hailed from the South; the region which committed unholy treason and cost the nation 600,000+plus lives.

    Be careful for what you ask for. After all, its legacy is enough to bear, right?

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    In your opinion, what is the real country? One where the founding fathers wrote a contract, or where the Supreme court says “we don’t know what the founders meant.”

  • AndRebecca

    As I stated, you are full of communist clichés. You would not have any of your materialistic stuff or your ability to communicate your pitiful ideas if it weren’t for the vey people you despise. Since very few people participated in creating the modern world, we have an unequal distribution of wealth. Thanks our founders, we all have electricity, a transportation system beyond imagination, food clothing and shelter, and poor people who don’t have to work and who are in the top 5% of the richest people in the world. We are free to be ingrates, and we are free to stick to the man, which is what you are doing. The Marxists wrote about how to take over America, and how to destroy civilization. And they constantly attacked Christianity because they believed Protestant Christianity created the modern world they despised. They…no you are still doing it.

  • Steven Barrett

    If you want to see the nation dragged back to the days of the original Constitution, be my guest but don’t try and pull it off in fact. A lot of folks whose ancestors were kept in slavery, not to mention women who were treated not much better, legally speaking, will give you the fight of your life and you’ll be on the short end of the proverbial chain attached to the master’s stake. It sure looks like the Court most recently disclosed some institutional Alzheimer’s when it came up with its Citizen’s United decision. One more decision like this and we might as well start proceedings to institute knighthood status for our CEOs who’ll then be the practical rulers of the realm.

  • AndRebecca

    I responded to your email twice….Don’t see my answers here. We see everywhere what Marxism is about, and we have seen in America what it is not about. I am sad you can’t see the difference. Ditto atheism, secular humanism, and other religions.

  • Steven Barrett

    I’m hoping you’re referring to another writer because I keep seeing this reference to Greenwald come up. Admittedly a lot’s been written in this thread so it’s likely I don’t recall ever putting in Greenwald’s name anywhere. The less I think of that self-righteous pontificator when it comes to discerning what’s proper or improper to make public knowledge, the better.

    Regarding another person’s observation that I’m unable to recognize Marxism, whatever … nonsense. I lived in Germany during the Cold War, traveled to Berlin twice on the Duty Train with my family and later with the Boy Scouts. Went behind the Wall on both occ’s, too. You never forget what the East Germans and their Soviet overlords inflicted on that city.

    On the other hand, all this stuff concocted by the Right about Obama and his supposedly inner leftist leanings due to his upbringing have as much validity as any similar complaints made by any German foolish enough to try and make the same argument against Chancellor Merkel. After all, it seems as if America’s economy is making a rapid comeback and Germany’s has maintained its supremacy in Europe. Geesh, why the hell aren’t the righties asking how the hell those lefties running the WH and Reichstag are keeping their economies on track? When the “conservatives” were in charge of things in our own nation when Obama came into office, everything seemed to be going to hell in a hand-basket pretty damn quick.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    The future of the country is collectivism, not knighthood. Aided and abetted by ignorance like yours.

  • Bertharina Rina


    Astounding as it may appear, selected souls sit in on judgement of their fellow man. This is a master crime

    concocted by political gangsters, in brainwashing innocent citizens to do the dirty-work of low-life bastards.

    It is common knowledge that court houses are devil’s lairs, where the excrement of lawyers and judicial parasites wallow in legalized plundering through anti-social dirtbag activities, in humbugging as carried on in civil roguery– so-called, as a collective sewage system. God help innocent souls that are legally sucked into any all so-called jury iniquity. Satan has no greater comfort than to enjoy the twelve-victim system, that he he had formerly sat up, in trapping ignorant souls, when sworn into victimized seductiveness as a coma opium covering civil political idolatry. Fools become mesmerised to identify with state police powers.

    The National psychiatry industry admits that at least sixty million citizens are actually zombies. The claim is that chemicals in food and water fluoridation has victimized millions, of which are literally ignorant, as to what end is up and have become nihilistic. Within a matter of time, our major republic is being threatened with an inhibited terror that national political whoredom is becoming a well-entrenched nest of confederated fools. Actually, our nation is cursed through the rebellion of the legal syndicate, as criminals are moving into authoritative circles of all states, and suckers on jury call are becoming wise to a nationwide criminal syndicate in the hands of glorified scoundrels. This case can be made when studying WW11, and the Nuremberg judicial claptrap. Further, Waco, Ruby-Ridge, Heaven’s Gate and David Koresh, the Jim Jones’ cult. Too, if we throw in 911. Jesus Christ did not face a jury. Christ was tried four times with no jury inclinations. The Sanhedrin that brought Christ down was composed of High Priests. The jury system was criminally installed in our republic after 1776. This was Satan’s and the bank of England, as allied with Art.6, Sec.6, of the bill of Rights on Treaties.This radicalism was shoved into force after the Constitution was ratified. It is geared to state slavery, for the rotten scoundrels that sucked helpless souls into a life of misery. This was a master crime originating under the wings international finance. The jury system is a master criminal manufacture of Lucifer and and his family of devils. The American productive industry ( citizens ) are sucked-down as legal parasites drain poor and ignorant souls through control of their jury systems. Comatosed is the jury’s acclamation.

    The National Lawyer’s Association has a code “ Never give a sucker an even break, nor a chump another chance” These agents of Satan coin that juries are blockheads. Countering this, the suckered juryman thanks God for a chance to judge fellow beings, in mis-comprehending that complete fools uphold absolute compliance of political banditry, in accepting class hoodlism. Christ warned, “ Beware of lawyers and Doctors of divinity”. Socrates warned of being comotosed by the agents of Satan

    Twelve chosen blockheads from the lowest depths of social stagnation receive a form implication them into jury duty. Beforehand, an appointed shyster rides herd on obedient incidentals.

    This lackey gets off his binge long enough in attempting to to dazzle all meatheads with his line of brilliance, if not– Baffle them them a line of Bull-manure. Lawyers primary responsibility is to guard the fraudulent system of stolen wealth, as garnered through commercial, industrial, loan-sharking and the trickery of home taxation. Usually, tax collectors are political-dragging burnt-out ex-drunks, with little experience as Notary Publics, and a shyster’s dream of stealing.

    In proposing that a jury of 12 ingrates have been seated and prepared to exercise revived brain cells previously put to rest via TV brainwashing, a coma moves in. The state rests its case as to the defendant, drunkard, had been shot in the fracas, in attempting to put the make on a barfly. The jury had been hand-picked, composed by a body of farmers, social engineers and firemen. Democratised, pillars of society, Ballot-box ringers, in being qualified to rack up an opinion, as to who fired into a defendant’s frakas. The state appointed attorney, Oscar Hammerhead, a free-lance drunk, attempted to to explain where and what was a fracas, instead of the entrance of a bullet-hole. After two hours, the jury’s eyes became dilated and wobbly.and the the jury falls into a coma. The shyster was surviving on a temporary visa from Hunglo, Poland, and had previously took a six-month crash-course in law. The jury was liberally minded, as beneficiaries of state, in trying to match illegal entries in milking national society in seeking grub by-way of gathering up freebies from the taxpayers hide. Living in some slum-master’s professional clapboard rentals and voting for rights was better than sleeping under bridges or park benches. Jury duty was a dead-end as allied with nursing homes. The jury was queried for two weeks. Back before the judge pronouncing a hung jury verdict.. The fundamental issue was that twelve icons were comatosed. This crew did not know what a fracas was, or is. Questionable intellects had been ignorant as skeletonized as to human pathology. It seemed that such jurors and a shyster would learn more about life in some reform school in attempting understand what was a frakas. The judge happened to be sober, as he too was a quart-day shyster. Calling in professionals in the field of biology, anthropology, pathology, psychiatry and Gypsy fortune tellers– a well-rounded combination of court-house interlopers, looking to loot the state treasury in the name of justice. Stepping forth, and under oath an anthropologist of German descent, a frakas lay between the navel and the hip joints. The ( arse ) was never hit. Thousands of dollars of taxpayers money spent on a barfly and a drunk from a shot in the leg, of which completely missed an arse. It is deemed here that America has too many bastards using the art of legal theft in robbing helpless souls, and of which thrive in their own sanctuary of hell on earth. The mentioned shyster did not know his arse was finished as a state-appointed parasite.

  • In America, i think, you must declare yourself as a believer of this or that, to get a chance for a higher political position. Actually a problem for the democracy. Obama chooses the simplest solution, declaring a belief, but without practical participation.

  • Bertharina Rina

    +Bertharina Rina

    You are such a gifted writer and your insight to this perilous situation are unmatched and much needed to open truth to people’s minds.General Patton is great man! Once in a lifetime! The youth have been genetically damaged through vaccination,drugs and many secret experiments both physical and psychological. They have been whisked into such confusion that they are far from their identities and the realms of truth. Bruce Jenner was a very gifted athlete in the limelight and yet “what dark forces” would convince a man like that that he is a woman?! Who better a specimen to use for the Manchurian purposes of drilling America’s youth into more confusion and hopelessness! To “attack” the American male and “twist ‘and manipulate the psyche into believing whatever they wish and then offer himself to the media to spread this into every mind and create doubt in people about themselves! People need to be savvy about the devil’s devices! These happenings are all part of the diabolical plan to destroy our nation by attacking and mutating the sex/gender identity! I remember as a child hearing wise people speaking of this day in America and describing where we are now heading! My great grandmother said she didn’t even want her shoes to be here on earth come 1980.The Rockefellers began destroying the family unit in the sixties by instigating women’s lib. They were able to boost their personal pocket books by now collecting taxes from “two” individuals a household. They also spun many other agendas off this that have lead us to where we are now. They have used many avenues to implement extra insurance that there will be less of a chance of America breeding anymore Pattons! GMO’S are a near guarantee! There are MANY drugs in the water and food supply that enhance this! I just heard this morning a broadcast from; ” Alex Jones from Wed,June 24 2015: Lauren Southern,Paul Craig Roberts”. I was very impressed and satisfied the way our condition here in America was described!.We are now frogs boiling in water”! Much action needs to be taken and many fervent prayers need to be said!

  • Bertharina Rina


    +Bertharina Rina s helped to co-ordinate the activities across the continent, and the family developed a network of agents, shippers and couriers to transport gold and information across Europe. This private intelligence service enabled Nathan to receive in London the news of Wellington’s victory at the Battle of Waterloo a full day ahead of the government’s official messengers (which he allegedly used to deceive other investors in the London Stock Exchange, making him a fortune; though Rothschild researchers, and others, deny these allegations). In 1818 he arranged a £5 million loan to the Prussian government and the issuing of bonds for government loans formed a mainstay of his bank’s business. He gained a position of such power in the City of London that by 1825/6 that he was able to supply coins to the Bank of England. He was also known for his role in the abolition of the slave trade; however, records from the National Archives examined in 2009 show that Nathan financially benefited from slavery. In 1869, his grandson became a director of the Bank of England, a post he held for 20 years. The Rothschild bank also funded Cecil Rhodes in the development of the British South Africa Company and the Rothschild family administered Rhodes’s estate after his death in 1902, and helped to set up the Rhodes Scholarship scheme [3] (which many presidents, UN key figures, politicians and government officials worldwide would receive). [4]
    The fourth born was Calmann Mayer Rothschild, in 1788. The 1821 occupation of Naples by the Austrian army provided the opportunity for Calmann (Carl) to set up his business in the Kingdom. As such, Carl was sent to Naples where he established C M de Rothschild & Figli to operate as a satellite office to the Rothschild banking family in Germany. He established a good working relationship with Luigi de’ Medici, the “Direttore della Segreteria di Azienda del Regno di Napoli” (Finance Minister), and his operation became the dominant banking house in Naples. In 1829, Carl was appointed consul-general of Sicily at Frankfurt and in January 1832 the Jewish banker was given a ribbon and star of the Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George at a ceremony with the new Roman Catholic Pope, Gregory XVI. [5]
    Jacob (James) Mayer Rothschild was the last born in 1792, but I’ve already explained his success in Paris in the previous chapter. However, it’s worth mentioning that many Rothschilds were, and are, supporters of the State of Israel, although others oppose it. Either way, James’ grandson, Edmond Benjamin James de Rothschild, was a strong supporter of Zionism, and his generous donations lent significant support to the movement during its early years which helped lead to the establishment of the State of Israel. [6] He was also a patron of the first settlement in Palestine at Rishon-LeZion, and bought from Ottoman landlords many parts of the land which now makes up present-day Israel. In 1917 Walter Rothschild was the addressee of the Balfour Declaration, which committed the British government to the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people. James A. de Rothschild financed the Knesset building as a gift to the State of Israel. The Supreme Court of Israel building was donated to Israel by Dorothy de Rothschild; [7] Outside the President’s Chamber is displayed the letter Mrs Rothschild wrote to Prime Minister Shimon Peres expressing her intention to donate a new building for the Supreme Court. [8]
    After amassing huge fortunes, the name Rothschild became synonymous with extravagance and great wealth. By the end of the century, the family owned, or had built, at the lowest estimates, over 41 palaces, of a scale and luxury perhaps unparalleled even by the richest Royal families. [9] The British Prime Minister Lloyd George claimed, in 1909, that Lord Nathan Rothschild was the most powerful man in Britain. [10] The business magazine referred to Mayer Amschel Rothschild as the “founding father of international finance”, and Forbes magazines as the “20th most influential businessmen of all times”. [1]
    From the mid 19th century, many people had their eyes on the Rothschilds and their activities. Suspicion and an anti-Rothschild sentiment spread throughout Europe. It was time to keep a low public profile and to put in place a network of frontmen to take care of their businesses. By the later 19th century, almost all Rothschilds had started to marry outside the family, usually into the aristocracy or other financial dynasties, like the: Warburg, Oppenheim, House of Bonaparte, Wellington, Guinness, House of Borghese, Ephrussi, Walpole, Wodehouse, and man
    Wikipedia: Rothschild family (
    [2] Wikipedia: Solomon Mayer Rothschild (…von_Rothschild)
    [3] Wikipedia: Nathan Mayer Rothschild (
    [4] Wikipedia: List of Rhodes Scholars (
    [5] Wikipedia: Carl Mayer von Rothschild (
    [6] Wikipedia: Edmond James de Rothschild (
    [7] The New York Times, “Dorothy de Rothschild, 93, Supporter of Israel” (obituary), 13 December 1988.
    [8] The Presidents Chamber, Tour of Supreme Court, The Judicial Authority.
    [9] Niall Ferguson, “The Ascent of Money: A Financial History of the World”, London 2008, page 78.
    [10] Paul Johnson, “A History of the Jews “, London 2004, page 319-20

  • Bertharina Rina

    INTELLECTUAL DECAY IS CONVERTED GUILT THROUGH A COMPULSION TO OUTRIGHT LIE. GOD HAS ADDRESSED HIS ENEMIES AS DOGS, and those of whom part with pearls to dogs. Our Lord claimed that dogs are vomit consumers. And yet, Mohammedanism yields to a dog, claiming the divinity of ( ZULU ), with Adam and Eve in the garden. Transubstantiation of neurotic personalities is implanted within barking dogs, ( Nuisance ). Individuals surrounded by barking dogs ( at all hours ) are relieved of masochistic yearnings. This is another measure of erotic behavior. Usually a question of religious conflict ion.
    If one will look around, there will be hundreds of little booklets knocking everything, and what evolves from the publication of sewage, in the line of ever supporting Protestantism with its break from Catholicism. Only the ignorant misunderstand that Protestantism evolved from Catholicism. This being true, designates that both are wrong or one is wrong and the other is correct. With such consideration, it is necessary to do some investigation of earlier Oriental fundamentalists beliefs of one ancient religion known as Gautama. This ancient Gautama was the very basis for Oriental religious fundamentalists. All of us wear thinking caps over intelligent brains. Generally, money is the very root of many world religious movements. Have you ever considered that great opposition to western Christianity. Yes, it originated in the Orient. Have you ever been informed that the seed line of Abraham is God’s chosen seed line. Do you know from whence one of Noah’s sons that you have descended through. Try searching the origins of Ham, Japhet and Shem. Have you ever taken the time in discovering just who controls the pro red-cells infiltrated fifty states.states. Interestingly, Most mad men of global leadership loved dogs—ancient Pharaohs included. The
    attempt here is to reveal that mankind harbors animal distinctiveness, and geared to self-survival, and as trained., mankind
    Homo Sapiens, lives a pattern of behavior that is characteristic of a species and is often a response to specific environmental surroundings. Some where from the suppositional disposition of a ZULA. In the beginning, the common mutt of contemporary society fills the void between previous canine existence. Mutt grooming and transubstantiation becomes a peerage cliche opinion that is overused and betrays a lack of original thought.: “the old cliche “one man’s meat is another man’s poison. Craftiness of men through empirical religious movements offers up the wafer and wafer and replaces divine atonement. In retrospect, the masses suffer from the ( PERSONALITY SUPPRESSION COMPLEX SYNDROME. ) The late Socrates opted: “ That a life not worth examining is not worth living.”

    Clearly, witnin our nation it’s dogs, politicians and parasites..It is mentally dangerous to rely on other’s insinuations and reason, in trying to influence many to think with a one way mind. Having never seen nor read the hand book mentioned, ( Political Phobia ) , warns many that politicians are finding fault without qualification. Please keep an open mind, for we have many sorry political devising bastards in the line of pseudo political avenues of contrary truths, that the world is only a fool’s paradise, and that America should continue on as a hunting ground for political whores in office.
    Further, when searching out modern Christology, the national religious empire, take into the historicity of religious ties to the national treasury. Here we have a double standard contrary to our Constitution. No doubt about it, the control over all religions are state orientated. In America when things go wrong, one runs from one denomination to another, in order to reconcile guilt complexes. Here Satan is drug up, in trying to palm off self-induced, personality debilitation..
    Without contemplation, through political demagoguery,a gradual sinking and wasting away of mind or body has been a long waiting period for the great Parousal ( God’s earthly return ), to take place. More than likely, much longer before the expansive eschatological false man made- teachings will come to the truth voluntarily. The world is under the influence of an invisible society that is supportive of global Pan Theosophy, Pan finance, Pan Russia and Pan Orientalism. America is headed in this direction. Since the national publishing industry is a tool, and a product, on the threshing floor of universal socialism, it would be wise to ignore off-color information and learn the earthly gospel, as to how national political prostitution has fallen into the hands of universal financial control in whipping our national population in line with universal socialism under control of planted agents in national government as parasites, These agents of infidelity are nothing but tools and professional liars in league with a national crime syndicate infecting all states in rubbing the noses of decent citizens into the muck and mire of scoundrels in high seats of government. The truth– Communism is the very root of corruption in America!.
    Hound grooming and barking dogs dulls one’s inertia regarding one’s reach towards truth.?Show less

  • Last Prophet

    he is a reptilian and some of his aliases include Osama Bin Laden, Bob Marley and Will Smith….

  • Bertharina Rina


    In a way, up until her death, this soul, Elleanor, held her own in rearing up sons and daughter. The real problem began in this marriage when Dwight Eisenhower met Anna, daughter of President Roosevelt, at a party. Anna fell under Ike’s magical spell, of being indifferent and not aloof, to socializing in brown-nosing, as to any depth with uppercrust gatherings. Ike was a born spycophant. Anna turned to her father, as to Ike’s un-blurred worshipping, in luring dad into a state of self-messeririsingment, as God’s gift to all humanity. Franklin pulled Ike under his wings. This was one of the world’s crulest commandaryship. From this day onwards, the Ike / Roosevelt conjealed.

    Franklin was under the dome in 1933. Here, it seemed, that a rich man had turned coat from his Wall Street clubbing investors. His New Deal sham was hitched to a pseudo Democracy. Elleanor was torn, & caught in between

    two supposedly differing sets of social engineering, rich and rags.

    This soul could not turn and twist as to the fate of political prostitution. she choose to break away from an inherited anti-social guilt complex. This bright lady choose liberalism. An un-elected President, Harry Truman, appointrd Elleanor as his first Ambassador to the UN in 1945. Before, until &

    death she struggled for justice witn a global fervor to rescue humanity from a world filled with down-trodden women and children.

    In between the years of 1933 until death was a struggle with an inner-self. The climax was to fill a soul that was void of dealing with the world she sought to bring into some light. This darkness sought another light to follow as a lonelnelessness took on a new direction. She had befriended Leona Hickox, journalist, to live in the White House. Rumors began to swell over the years. Too, Franklin was sort of a paramour while seated under the dome. Franklin was murdered in 1945. Eisenhower was in full dimentia during his last days as President. The so-called New Deal was never born. An involved lady was only its shadow, that haunted criminals in national government. In their grave, two of the most misunderstanding individuals rests in peice.

  • Bertharina Rina


    ( Global iniquity )

    This national unorthodox contemporary politically crippled mud-slapping of confederated idiots– rascals in Congress, rob, loot, and plunder innocent souls, when sworn into this nest of coagulated sycophants. Naturally, their fellow travelers, stymied mobocrats, are low-level ghetto hermits well sewn throughout fifty states. But, astoundingly; we have nine colloquially opinionated Homo Sapiens being appointed to the Supreme Court. Suddenly, and frightfully, one is dispatched into the hereinafter; while another is legislated, as a to be a walk-in. Sophistry is the brainchild of a plant to be flushed into this chamber of hell on high water,

    Peradventure, this rogue’s gallery in robes will actually lord it over three-hundred and fifteen-million individuals. As cosmetic we have a lop-sided collectivity gang of individual religiously obligated lists, insiders, nourishing a political salad of Gods. Presently, a one God angle is favorited. This is the so-called monopolistic view of our 1948 Israel, that taxpayers literally pump billions into every year. This is through PAC moneys used to bribe Congress. Now we must also allow protestantism and Catholicism along with the religious drifters from Asia and the Middle East to come a shore and set up gospel entities. The basis for spurious allied political religious whoredom’s santuary of lost souls actually depend on the human riff-raff, hermits, voters, by the millions, that make up our national pseudohallucination of deceptive Democracy. All-in-all, the

    religious equation is the root ambition of political affronty. It is a willing bet that hands lay on the Old Testament when sworn in.

    We are facing a meltdown as to the next appointee to this court.

    For sure, some hackerderpus renowned sycophant will do a few brounies. as a pundit in the hands of a Wall St. and the Federal Reserve; that’s if the sitting King maker short circuits the Constitution, in appointing another seat warmer to the bench. This brings us back to the late Huey P. Long : “ Every man a king, and no man wears a crown.” But, this nation swells from an ant hill unto a mole hill right aside a kingdom of regimented fools right into the paws of a global conspiracy : being wire-pulled as the catfish consisting of all mouth and no brains. Indeed, a homemade manarchists institution gassing profoundly, being intoxicated with double speak, between the court and the dome is to dodge the lawful decree of Corpus delecti at will. The late Abraham Lincoln bypassed this act in order to to save the union. The ruling elite attempts the same to plant a tool amongst the brethren. In fact, the sitting monarchist is a blind-bat with a single eye to further the Marxist theory of connivance. Here, political gangsterism ruling via

    a hidden hand is crumbling. But, if avoided, one must recall ancient days, when the Gentile / Jewish machine whored after Judges and kings to chain mankind into serfdom and mental slavery.

    For many years taxpayers have been abused through deadly taxation. Citizens losing homes and living on streets. This is under the present administration. There is no different today as of olden times. King Solomon taxed people to death. King Rehobaum took over. “ My father made your yoke heavy, and I will add to your yoke: “ my father chastised you with whips, but I will chastise you with scorpions. “ This brought on a division of Israel into two tribes, Judah and Israel. Religious and political whoredom in national government has fallen into the strange gods of the Middle East. In all probability, a liberalized commie fed political gangster

    is to be seated on the bench— Mohammedanism will be the new rulership against christians of whom bowdown to man-made religions. America reels back and forth, of mandated communism. Many children are in the hands of peddophiles. God save innocent children coming forth into a revolving system of sexual privation.

    Fate is holding out its hand. Our Republic is bankrupt by a trilateral interstate gambling network reaching back into ancient Venice. These commercial bandits have no mercy for mankind. It is a question as to they having a soul. Actually, this meanace controls the religious empire nationwide; too, setting up minor governments across this land. One is the City / county Management system. This gang has brought innocent souls within America into a modern day

    Babylonia. The spirit of iniquity is manifested through wicked alien investors blood-lined back to ancient Esau. The only thing standing is crime, corruption, poverty, and disease. Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. This is the put up scheme of the ballot box. Most politicians suffer from diarrhea of the mouth when speaking.

    What previously stated could be bundled up for the nearest dumpster. IN AMERICA, ONE HALF THE POPULATION WORKS FOR A LIVING; AND ONE HALF OF THE POPULATION VOTE FOR A LIVING. : “ Oh truth, where is thy sting.” Shakespeare.

  • Bertharina Rina

    Bertharina Rina


    ASSUREDLY; an international syndicate of social engineering financial racketeers have optimally accomplished a natural and long depressed disposition to drag the civilization of our Republic into the corrupted fangs of an international octopus, slivering among pre-bought presidential panhandlers, scheming behind an inbred psychologically self-implanted nature, in concealing just what money is and its origin. Theoretically, currency expressed through paper, silver or coupons, credit cards or gold is worthless, other than commercial use. However, for thousands of years gold was the most precious, in controlling various nations and societies. In fact. the power of currency as to fueling the movement of goods and services worldwide is unique in that alien nations can be dominated through financial marketeers, of whom collaborate with the the established International Monetary Fund, in conniving various global exchange rates weekly set in pricing gold, as professional swindlers, by being governed by several financial agents, subjected to agents of the Bank of England and the U.S. Federal Reserve. Positively, the agents of controlled universal currency ( interest ) has

    the USA enslaved !

    This vast one-eyed blood-sucker conglomeration holds helpless nations in prevailing poverty via the interest ( USURY ) or ( INTEREST ) form of vice. These professional loan sharks, through cashiering productive states, plunder and rob unconsciously, with an absolute artificial coined counterfeit lucre. A Republic is being crucified upon a literal cross of ( paper ). These certified barbarians of lusting on other’s labors holds souls in financial bondage. Of course, our Republic is now run on ( FIAT ) money; not backed by gold, but individual private property.

    Reiterating that fiat moneys have no precious metal value at all; conclusion indicates that our nineteen trillion debt is racketeering. Fiat currency backs up the American ties to the “ The London City. “ of England. Our Republic is a dependent of the British oligarchy with tentacles

    reaching into our communist influenced congress. These mad-dogs of inflamed self-hatred are descendants of ancient Esau. God hates them, while both rule through pseudo Democracies.

    In renting out their military deployment worldwide; both countries accept goods and services in trading with various nations. Fiat moneys originated with our Congress and Britain’s Parliament. Gold is being hoarded in both America and England via the Rothschild banking networks. Together; two civilized nations have turned to imperialism. Rothschild is a pseudo paternal name. For sure, these collective revenue scavengers consider the above average individual, not in the house of their blood-sucking covey, to be nothing less than ( cattle ), In cahoots with these unconsciousness financiers, ( usurers ); all America is driven like one vast horde of wild animals under stress, to pay through the interest system, organized usury.The banking system originated to control progressive civilizations through specific self-serving sycophants, in the field of political prostitution and ballot boxes–a race of devils in the flesh.

    Yet: We are unable to establish when gold took over the ancient bartering nations of past millennials. But it is obvious ( FIAT ) moneys must be backed up. IT IS ! because citizens own homes and other property. Believe it or not, your fixed and fluid wealth is being stolen through outrageous taxation. This ownership is leeched from criminal taxation. It doesn’t take a robber to take property dishonestly, for tax collections are running them out of business. Any nation not falling in line with fiat currency is invaded and starved into submission. America has become a sewer for the globe’s humanoid revolutionary driftwood, and from the pale of eastern Europe. The banking intelligentsia brings up the rear, in formatting ethnic dissension and community solvency, through control of all and any press, or news outlet. We might conclude that the gold owners are forerunners of universal Bolshevism.

    This ancient false religious movement bases its determination to set up a so called ONE WORLD government. Such mud-slappers seek gold only as means to an end. Absolutely, money lenders correlate metro politics as the gall in financial entrenchment; in setting up the so-called CITY and COUNTY MANAGER bogus operation. Here citizens are merely mobs, ( CATTLE ), in the hands of socializing specific areas of America; in furthering incipient socialism; by bringing into poverty well established middle-class productive elements via taxes; with inflationary funds to keep such subservience to gradually drag any elevated class into a state that has ties to international finance.

    Robbery keeps helpless nations in prevailing poverty via the interest ( USURY ) or ( INTEREST ) form of vice. These professional loan sharks, through cashiering productive states, plunder and rob unconsciously,with an absolute artificial counterfeit species. America is being crucified upon a literal cross of ( GOLD ). These certified barbarians of lusting on other’s labors holds nations in financial bondage. Of course, our Republic is now run on ( FIAT ) money.

    Reiterating that fiat moneys have no precious metal value at all, the conclusion demonstrates America Primarily, the globe’s gold supply, over all, rests in bents Fort Knox, KN. Gold backs up the American and British empire, in renting out their military deployment worldwide. All countries accept goods and services in trading with various nations. Fiat moneys originated with our Congress and Britain’s Parliament. Gold is being hoarded in both America and England via the Rothschild banking networks. Together, both civilized nations have turned to imperialism. Rothschild is a pseudo paternal name. For sure, these collective revenue scavengers consider the above average individual, not in the house of their blood-sucking covey. to be nothing less that ( cattle ). In cahoots with these consciousnesses financiers (usurers ), all America is driven like one vast horde of wild animals under stress, to pay through the interest system, Organized usury.The banking system originated to control progressive civilizations through specific self-serving sycophants, in the field of political prostitution.

    Still, we are unable to establish when gold took over the ancient bartering nations of past millennials. But it is obvious ( FIAT ) moneys must be backed up. IT IS ! because citizens own homes and other property. Believe it or not, your fixed and fluid wealth is being stolen through outrageous taxation. This ownership is stolen from criminal taxation. It doesn’t take a robber to take property dishonestly, for collections are running them out of business.

    Any nation not falling in line with fiat currency is invaded and starved into submission. America has become a sewer for the globe’s humanoid revolutionary driftwood and from the pale of eastern Europe. The banking intelligentsia brings up the rear, in formatting ethnic dissension and community solvency, through control of all and any press, or news outlet. We might say that the gold owners are forerunners of universal Bolshevism.

    This ancient pseudo religious movement bases its determination to sit up a so called ONE WORLD government. These Christ killers are the very roots of civil unrest within America. Gold murdered our Lord !

    Absolutely, money lenders correlate metro politics as the vertex in financial entrenchment; in setting up the so-called city and county manager organization. Here citizens are merely mobs, ( CATTLE ), in the hands of socializing specific areas of America, in furthering incipient socialism, by bringing into poverty well established middle-class productive elements via taxes, with inflationary funds to keep such subservience to gradually drag any elevated class into a state that has ties to international finance.

    Dirty bastards as Rubio, Cruz, Katisch and Romney, are stooges for political hooliganism.

  • BETH

    wakeup sheeple…the man is in office because he was placed there like most of the others by the leaders of the US crooked politcal system. The sheeple have so much to say but know so little. get your heads out of the sand

  • fidobite

    If Obama is a Christian then I am young, martian tennis champion.

  • fidobite

    This imposter is fulfilling a role in Biblical prophecy. I don’t know the details but I am convinced he is part of the decline and “setup” for the end times Christian eschatology. It’s important to note it takes a large majority of non-believers for the elements to all come together. I think we’re seeing that in world events as never before. Be aware.