Accuracy in Media

President Obama failed to take out Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu but now he’s going after Canada’s Conservative Party Prime Minister Stephen Harper, a big supporter of Israel and opponent of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

It’s a story the U.S. media won’t cover. But Judi McLeod of the Canada Free Press has been documenting how Obama is planning the “fundamental transformation” of Canada by taking down Harper’s government and bringing to power a progressive majority assembled from Canada’s Liberal Party and New Democratic Party (NDP), an affiliate of the Socialist International.

In a dispatch earlier this year, McLeod provided the facts about the interference of Obama campaign operatives in the Canadian elections scheduled for October 19. “In Canada, Obama’s campaign team is guiding the election campaigns of both the Liberals and the NDP,” she wrote. She urged the Harper government to investigate.

She explained why Obama is targeting Canada: “To the U.S., Canada is the country next door, to Obama it’s home of the architects of the maligned Keystone XL Pipeline and home to the world’s Number One elected defender of Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.”

Indeed, for the last seven years Harper has not only been supporting Israel but functioning as the leader of the Free World, in the face of Obama’s deal-making with America’s enemies and adversaries. In 2014, at the summit of G20 nations, Harper famously told Russian President Putin that he needs “to get out of Ukraine.” Putin replied with a lie, saying the Russians weren’t in Ukraine.

Harper has declared, “Israel is the front line of free democratic nations, and any who turn their back on Israel or turn a blind eye to the nature of Israel’s enemies do so in the long run at their own peril.”

In a recent speech to the Jewish Community Council of Montreal, he said, “Those who hate democracy and freedom, tolerance and openness, having been plotting attacks against Western nations, beginning with Israel, for decades, seeking to destroy our rare and precious way of life. We were told for years to just ignore the erosion of freedoms and the growing aggression of Putin’s Russia. Look where that has taken the world.”

Canada used to have a conservative cable channel, Sun News Network. But it went out of business earlier this year when the channel failed to get enough distribution to pay for expenses. Cable companies in Canada were carrying foreign channels such as Al Jazeera and Putin’s Russia Today, but wouldn’t carry Sun News. Brian Lilley, a former host on the network, said that the cable companies “didn’t like the message.” He explained, “They didn’t like that we were brash, we were very conservative.  We were pro-business, pro-family, pro-oil, pro-Israel. We were pro-America…They decided to shut us down.”

Lilley and his former colleagues have formed TheRebel.media as a replacement, with special news coverage of national and international news. The group’s YouTube channel, with 1,500 videos, is the place to go for conservative coverage of the Canadian elections and other news. Their videos have already attracted millions of views. A report by Ezra Levant on the election describes reporters at Canada’s state broadcaster, the Canadian Broadcasting Company (CBC), as “liberals with press credentials.” Lilley has been leading a campaign to have the government, which provides about $1 billion to the CBC, sell the broadcasting entity to the private sector. Visitors can also get access to podcasts, columns and blogs, and contribute financially to maintain and expand this important site for news and information.

While the Liberal Party of Justin Trudeau campaigns for legal dope and injection centers for drug addicts, and the New Democratic Party proposes Bernie Sanders-style socialism for Canada, the Conservative Party of Canada has been on the side of individual freedom, traditional values and free enterprise. Harper has taken on the jihadists who want to destroy Western civilization and has spoken eloquently about the stakes for the Free World, such as in a 2014 speech to the Tribute to Liberty Dinner in Toronto. The topic on this occasion was the need to establish a Memorial to Victims of Communism in Canada.

“During the 20th century, communism’s poisonous ideology and ruthless practice slowly bled into countries all around the world, on almost every continent,” Harper said. “The result was nothing short of catastrophic. More than one hundred million souls were lost, an almost incomprehensible number. We must never forget that these are not numbers, they are not statistics. They were mothers and fathers, sons and daughters, friends and neighbors. Their futures, their potential, their hopes and dreams, were stolen from them. Our hearts break for those who suffered and we mourn for those who were crushed.”

After affirming Canada’s solidarity with Ukraine, in the face of Russian aggression, Harper described another current threat, international Islamic terrorism, and said, “…whatever it calls itself—Nazism, Marxist-Leninism, today, terrorism—they all have one thing in common: the destruction, the end of human liberty. My fear is this: as we move further into the 21st century, Canadians, especially new generations, will forget or will not be taught the lessons hard learned and the victories hard earned over the last 100 years. That they will fall even further in love with ease and convenience. And that they will not understand that their rights and their advantages, their peace and their security, were won by people willing to live and die for what is good and right.”

Harper, in power since 2006, has truly been the leader of the Free World over the last seven years. He is a reminder of what an American president should be standing for in the world. No wonder Obama wants to finish him off.



Comments

  • Richard Hellstrom

    I guess Canada finds him scary too ! : )

  • Sun Drez

    This article is absolutely terrible. To make this PM sound as if hero is disgusting… And to disrespect Mr. Putin & President Obama is just bad press, Canada is a great nation and without Harper it will be much Greater….

  • Bobd06

    Another HDS sufferer who seems to have no problem with foreign interference in our election. Typical brain dead liberal.

  • larry

    pissing on obama’s grave continues to move higher and higher on my bucket list…

  • larry

    another brain dead, entitlement dependent heard from… question, do you get an extra bonus in your entitlement check when you make an ass of yourself… i’m sure voting for a handout is a big load for you, but if you get a chance, why don’t you find out whats going on in the real world before you jump to your knees to service your masters…

  • stevor

    what are the odds that it will be o’bama who “goes down” (and I don’t mean in the way he “goes down” with his boyfriends on dates)?

  • marlene

    TROLL.

  • Raya

    Harper is too polite. When faced with a street hustlet, one has to act like Trump and call out this Islamist sympathizer.

  • cliffcollins

    Harper has stuck to the neo-con vision of the NWO all along. Since the US sponsored and paid for overthrow of yet another legitimate elected government in this world (Ukraine), and the turmoil and thousands of deaths it has caused in Eastern Ukraine and otherwise, Harper has diligently followed his bosses orders by condoning Russia and Putin.
    The United Snakes ARE most likely interfering in our upcoming election, but it is to attempt to keep Harper in power. I am not voting Conservative because I see what is going on around the world and is getting more despicable by the minute! (Syria,Yemen,Libya, Ukraine and MH 17 and the TPP.) What we have been witnessing since 2003 in Iraq is the product of US policy period! This may in fact turn into a large global war, but the truth will come out about the United Snakes policy of illegal intervention after intervention for their own economic and geopolitical benefit.
    The Empire will be exposed for it’s real agendas (as in Syria) and then we in the west will have to decide if this is how are governments should be run. I agree with Sun Drez, this article is absolutely terrible and just sounds like more of the ” Putins to Blame” game.
    Try listening to and reading some material from many American’s such as Noam Chomski, John Mersheimer, Stephen Cohen , Dr. Paul Craig Roberts and William Blum. Especially Blum’s latest:
    Americas worst export: Democracy. What we are all witnessing in the world is America’s so called exceptionalism at it’s finest, and it isn’t going to stop any time soon!

  • nilro

    Western democracies are increasingly being compromised by leaders like Obama, who along with the mainstream media are puppets of faceless Globalists who are planning a socialist world government. The seats of higher learning are filled with socialist academics preaching a Marxist world. Our education system is wallowing in mindless rubbish. A leader like Harper who bucks the globalist prescribed system is soon put out of office. The ideal of prosperity through hard work has been thrown out in favour of entitlement. Bringing in droves of alien refugees means more votes in the future for the lib/left.

  • NoCoincidences

    That was at the top of my list a loooooong time ago, and remains #1 today… (maybe do it twice…)

  • stilu

    Obama, the foreign plant.

  • Anjet Tool Grinding

    What we need here is
    aims cia security expert Wayne Simmons..i don’t see him..what happened to him?

  • Most of us Canadians pray to see harper’s back on Monday night

  • Obama has absolutely nothing to do with it. Canadians have had it up to the neck with this born again self righteous wanna be “shirt-fronter” European leaders don’t like him either.

  • Say His Name: Wayne Simmons

  • Yeah, what happened to that guy?

  • Trevis Scott

    When we were coming back with Jeffrey Nyquist from an upscale restaurant on an island, the other person asked what time it was. Jeff, in a thunderous voice started declaiming: “What time is it now? What time is it now? It’s too late! Too late!”. Get it? I am a relentless optimist. I see good in everything, and stay affloat no matter what, but even with that said – The United States (and Canada) are FINISHED. Reason? COMFORT. The same murderous force that killed ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome before…as people become more and more comfortable – their ability to generate ARTS and PHILOSOPHY – the only two products (of spirit) that provide access to the TRUTH – diminish…and dissapear. Spiritual guides, which are a prerequisite for a longevity of any society do not exsist. Professional Truth Hunters are barely audible. The over-fed, over-entertained and the purposeless engage in a rampage of getting MORE comfort….and more comfort (here it’s called “The American Dream”). Are you kidding? Truth? But it’s so uncomfortable…Umm! My baby! You know, when you stop loving you lose interest. Just like that. Poor comfort junkies, in complete absense of Spiritual Guides did not know that overdosing on Comfort, and its six derivatives: credit, litigation, chemicals, entertainment, technology and freedom – causes DEATH. Jeff was right: IT’S TOO LATE!

  • Maria-Erlinda Martinez

    “…New Democratic Party (NDP), an affiliate of the Socialist International….”

    And what about the Democrat Party here in the USA? The Democrat Party is an affiliate of the Socialist International by proxy; go to http://SocialistInternational.org/viewArticle.cfm?ArticlePageID=931 and you’ll see that the National Democratic Institute (NDI) is listed among “Associated organisations”.

    Then go to https://www.NDI.org/board-of-directors and you’ll find that the NDI is an operation entirely run by prominent Democrats.

    Furthermore, the Democrat Party is also affiliated to the Socialist International a second time and by proxy again; Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) is a full member of the Socialist International. And, if you go to http://www.DSAUSA.org/our_structure you’ll find that the DSA is run actually by Marxists (i.e., communists) and by Leninists of the Cultural Communist strain. And the outstanding point is that all those are registered Democrats, hidden members of the ideological vertebral column of the Democrat Party.

    Caption: do not confuse the ideological vertebral column of the Democrat Party with the Party’s hierarchical highest stratum

    The ideological vertebral column runs vertically through all the strata of the Party, with some of its members in the highest stratum, and the rest in the rest of strata all the way down to the very grassroots. The ideological vertebral column is what provides the ideological glue to keep the party standing.

    Now, the hierarchical highest stratum is composed of Party bosses and operatives, and runs horizontally through the highest stratum and it is mainly in charge of fattening the coffers and of the bureaucratic and administrative operation of the entire party.

    Think of a letter “T”, with the horizontal line being the highest stratum of party bosses, and the vertical line, being the ideological vertebral column.

    The times of “our friends across the aisle” are gone; the Democrat Party is the most dangerous domestic enemy of the America of the Founders, that is, the America of grassroots-conservatives.

    The Republican Party ran its course; it is good for nothing vis-a-vis the Democrat Party.

    Hence, grassroots conservatives must start seriously thinking of creating the Grassroots-Conservative Party of America (GRCPA) to start official operations on November 9, 2016, that is, the very day after the general elections of November 8, 2016, so that the GRC{A starts participating thereafter in full force in all elections across America…from sea to shining sea.

    The GRCPA is the only force that could crush –at the ballot box and from government– the traitorous domestic hardcore-Left in America, its epitomic embodiment being the Democrat Party.

  • RobRBarron

    Anyone seen Wayne Simmons? I’m looking for him all over this place and all I can find is *egg*…

  • RobRBarron

    I’ve been lookng all over for him and all I can find is *egg*…

  • RobRBarron

    question, do you get an extra bonus in your entitlement check when you make an ass of yourself…

    No…we get one when we make people like you ask stupid questions like that one…

    Thanks and,,,CHA-CHING…

    PS: Seen Wayne Simmons anywhere?

  • RobRBarron

    So…a possible highlight of your *life* would be pissing outside…

    Hmmm…

    Here’s a hint: Put the video game down and take a walk…

    PS: Seen Wayne Simmons anywhere?

  • RobRBarron

    Oh come on…we know *masturbation* still tops your list…

  • Sun Drez

    I hope your prayers come true…. if you pray for this you should have it…. But it is a very odd thing to pray for, are you by chance involved in the riding that was comparing him to Jesus recently?

  • Sun Drez

    I think Canada deserves much better than this PM..

  • Sun Drez

    Putin is truly a great man and also a great leader – God Bless him and his actions in Syria, cleaning up the extremists and doing God’s work. Russia is a country Canada should respect and be on good terms with as they are truly powerful with great military might and we are peace keepers. Harper disrespectful towards Putin and Russia is embarrassing – I have a great respect for all governments and cultures and so should the Canadian PM. Respect is something our PM does not have on a world stage but really the only ones not seeing through Harper seems to be the ones who voted him in… Canada can not hide behind the US much longer and to have friends is much better than to have enemies …

  • Sun Drez

    Great post thank you and your ideas and insight are spot on…

  • Sun Drez

    I just can not see this man having an ounce of moral fibre and the difference is I am a working man. And being a hard working man in Canada is not easy, under this government they have done nothing good for me…. I don’t mind paying taxes to help others but to watch over the past ten years the damage inflicted and the lack of progress and people living off credit and paying 60% over on inflated homes is sad. So smile and keep on living

  • Sun Drez

    Polite….. seems you may have the term polite with pompous confused…

  • AndRebecca

    Is your comment supposed to sound intellectual? And was Wayne Simmons in the CPUSA talking points memo yesterday?

  • No

  • AndRebecca

    Did you take your meds today?

  • AndRebecca

    God works in strange ways. Your respect for third world toilets and the leader of one comes from where?

  • One could ask how you know this!? Are you some kind of voyeur?

  • RobRBarron

    His posts.

  • RobRBarron

    Your projection aside, I’m in perfect health.

  • RobRBarron

    Is your comment supposed to sound intellectual?

    It was a valid interrogatory. There are any number of *things* that one could have on a bucket list…skydiving…waterskiiing…a chia pet garden…all of them top his desire to piss outside…

    And was Wayne Simmons in the CPUSA talking points memo yesterday?

    No.

    He was add on to the extremely long list of “Dittodolts Who Augured In”.

  • Bobd06

    And just what do you think Trudeau can do about, if you think anything, you’re a fool.

  • And blustery! That’s exactly why most European politicians and international statesmen don’t like him. Will they applaud if he loses on Monday? Yes, but just as “asides’ tee hee. He acts somewhat like Tony Abbott but pretends to be more collected about it. He wouldn’t last 30 seconds in a Valdia International Discussion Club gathering.

  • AndRebecca

    Glad to hear it. A little short on American humor, though.

  • Sun Drez

    The funny thing is yes Russia might be considered not as rich as the west… But the one thing is money has no impact on the level of class and respect the people there have. When I was last there I can say the people and culture reminded me of Canada 30 years ago. It was really nice to see such great culture family festivals. But now Canada is truly on a nation without culture just a place for foriegn investment to push the Canadian people who have been here for their lives out…. So you can keep on doing what it is you do…and I will keep on smiling as at this point we are past the point of return. When the piper comes calling remember he will take your children and there future…. but I can imagine your like the Charlie Major song – it can’t happen to me …… but it will…

  • Sun Drez

    Trudeau – Harper – Tom – May are all not worth their weight in dog dodo… it’s like asking which of four dogs took the nicest poop… it a complete waste and a utter joke… to discuss Justin and his ability to lead would make me a fool, as he can not… Harper makes my skin crawl as I imagine when he was a child he would steal from his grandparents, and then try and buy friends.. Canada will get only what they deserve and it will be on Monday, so if it Harper so be it.. not one can save Canada with there ideas.. so let them refugees in, and sign that trade agreement… Get rejected for the UN security council again…. piss off the US and piss off Russia… Get us more light military gear to sell to radical nations. . Send our troops in and let our dollar collapse and our real estate markets bubble keep growing…Kets just get everything done tomorrow so I can get on with the New way of life.. And keep giving our jobs away to foriegn workers and be sure to crush our unions so these companies can cut our wages at the drop of a hat… it does not matter as I always will love Canada it’s just hard to stand on guard for her…. Harper treats Canada like a prostitute that’s why I dispise the clown

  • marlene

    TROLL.

  • Rachel Pancake Corrie

    Immigration from third world cesspits and their denizens are the curse of canada and the west

  • Wile E. Conservative

    Wayne Simmons seems as popular as GWB these days.

  • RobRBarron

    My family has be here in the US since the late 17th century which is around the same time that*joke* stopped being funny…

  • AndRebecca

    I guess you Leftists lost your sense of humor in the late 17th century. The song “The Volga Boatmen” is about as humorous as it gets for you.

  • AndRebecca

    Ah, I read that looong list. The commie sites had a field day. It is news when someone seemingly on the right is caught in a lie. It’s standard operating procedure for the Left to lie. If a progressive’s lips are moving, they are lying.

  • MM237

    They still would do better with someone who would respect the rights of unborn children.

  • RobRBarron

    The sad fact is, it’s NOT news when someone on the right lies. Gowdy Dowdy got caught in another one in re the alleged CIA source on HRC’s email exchange with Blumenthal…CIA came out and said the name was not classified and it was REDACTED anyway…

  • RobRBarron

    Yea…the whole “You lefties are *psychotic*!!!” meme of the right is a real side *splitter* and knee *slapper*…right up there with the heady standup routines of Carrottop and Gallagher and any movie starring Polly Shore…

  • RobRBarron
  • RMThoughts

    Putin is no sentimentalist and has studied soviet socialism his whole life and knows it does not work. He knows that a strong country is built upon the most fundamental social structure: the nuclear family. Returning the Russian Orthodox Church to its former glory and unashamedly promoting Christian values is his method of forging a new Russian empire.

    It is NOT us who is defending marriage and reducing abortions and outlawing homosexual propaganda? It is the Russians! Who has put God into their public schools? The Russians! While we have a socialist confiscatory tax system, who has a flat tax rate? The Russians! The future will show his motives, and they may be evil, but Putin is bringing his people back to the strong values they have not had in century and which we have been abandoning rapidly since the 60’s as cultural Marxism dominate our culture and institutions as well as academia.

    With the West busy committing cultural suicide, Russia can plausibly usurp the title Western values of yesteryear -the Syrian Christians wouldn’t mind since it is we the US that promote radical Islam throughout the Middle East and sponsor the violent persecution of Christians through our support of Islamic radicals.

    Unfortunately for us and the world: Putin is a does not believe in global warming he is a climate skeptic, the US and EU nomenclature are true global warmist socialist wanting to use this farce to transfer American wealth to the third world.

    Russia is in the beginning of a great Orthodox awakening. Putin has sponsored the renovation or rebuilding of 22 thousand Orthodox churches and monasteries. He has embedded the Orthodox religion deep into the military. We humiliate our military, purge our best military officers and homosexualize the ranks. The US and EU nomenclature despises religion and persecutes it though laws such as ObamaCare and denies the Christian conscious. Putin and the Russians are embracing love of country, the US nomenklatura hate our country and are destroying it.

    Putin and Russia despise western cultural Marxism and have declared themselves a nexus of resistance to everything it stands for. Putin is emphasizing love of family in Russian culture, EU and US popular culture despise the family, and radically imposes gay marriage here and abroad.

    Putin exhibits firm opposition to Muslim imperialism, the EU and the US are practicing to become dhimmis.

  • artfuldgr

    communists/socialists/fascists are all marxists and marxists want an end to jews… whether they hide it or not, they are antisemites… (heck, to hear the protester this morning say the jews have always been for “social justice” shows how stupid the western versions are… they forgot father coughlin the nazi priest and his paper, social jsutice, and that under social justice, what hitler did was good…dummies]

  • artfuldgr

    what? no jig to go with it?

  • artfuldgr

    such is life under obama/stalin/ and castro.. eh?

  • AndRebecca

    Oh, so is this an admission that Ms. Clinton is a Leftist? And, you think it is O.K. to have government emails sent to a private address.

  • AndRebecca

    Wow, you know far more about American culture than I do. I have no idea who Carrottop and Gallagher are, or Polly Shore. I guess your blood boils over just about anything.

  • RobRBarron

    Chuckles…thanks for proving my point…as unwittingly as that might have been…

  • RobRBarron

    Oh, so is this an admission that Ms. Clinton is a Leftist?

    Long coma, Becky?

    And so what if she is…this nation was founded by *Lefties* and has moved forward mostly on the *ideas* of Lefties…

    And, you think it is O.K. to have government emails sent to a private address.

    Prima facie…no…but given the number of hacks on State Department servers, she was probably better off…

  • AndRebecca

    And what was your point? Your blood boils over anything? I thought Leftists were all about peace and love. Like Stalin.

  • RobRBarron

    This is the internet, Becky…if anything here makes your blood *boil* then you should take up knitting…

  • AndRebecca

    Actually, the CIA is full of Lefties along with the rest of the government and we have our first communist pres. in the White House making decrees to overturn the government from the inside. The infiltration of the communists over the years has been very effective. And, the nation was founded by Christian capitalists. Read some non-revisionist history sometime. It will make you smart.

  • AndRebecca

    I’m not the one with the problem. Can’t you read?

  • RobRBarron

    I’m not the one with the problem.

    Then who is?

    Can’t you read?

    Um…is that a *trick* question?

  • AndRebecca

    I am sure if the Communist in the White House has anything to say about where the country is headed, you are right. Christians are already experiencing persecution here, but not on the levels of those Christians in other parts of the world. Children in America have been taught communism for quite a while now. As for family festivals in Russia, I recently heard Putin say the Russians need to start having families…They’ve had free abortion there for years and the Russians aren’t as happy to have children as you are making it seem. And, as for choosing guns or butter, in Russia it’s guns every time. Plus the crime rate there is as high as it is in American cities if not higher.

  • AndRebecca

    Here are some quotes which should make you smile…http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/joseph_stalin.html

  • RobRBarron

    Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union.

    Not according to Putin…

  • RobRBarron

    Got any non-revisionist history book recommendations, Becky?

    And, the nation was founded by Christian capitalists.

    Our nation?

    Our nation was first *founded* by a monarch who needed to sell hard goods to finance his internationalism…he did so by exploiting mostly the agricultural resources of the colonies and some natural resources as well…and had the colonists been given seats in Parliament they would have been *fine* with that……

  • AndRebecca

    Did you enjoy your Stalin quotes above? If not, just click on the “brainy quotes”…

  • AndRebecca

    George Washington was a monarch? Hmm. I think you’ve read the revisionist books already. But, the communist Howard Zinn (now deceased, I think) is known for having the most popular revisionist textbooks out there. Google him, Robbie…

  • RobRBarron

    George Washington wasn’t even the first President…that honor belongs to John Hanson…

    The English were here for ~170 years…the fact that I wrote that we’d have remained under a monarchy had we been granted a few seats in Parliament should have been your first clue.

    And the Founders were not “capitalists” and they’d have as much disdain for evangelicals now as they did then…the Commonwealth of Virginia taxed preachers who were not CoE…

  • harper is history!! Gone. See Ya’ Stevie!! And he didn’t need Obama to lose. He shot himself in the foot over the Niqab issue and bringing the notorious Fords in to promote his running. Yes the same Ford who was Mayor of Toronto, and liked snow…alot!

  • RobRBarron

    Did you bother to read the links? I quoted one…

  • RobRBarron

    Do they ever update the *blogs* on this site or has news *slowed* since Wayne Simmons augured in?

  • AndRebecca

    Are you alright? The Founders were capitalists. When they won English land, they sold it to capitalists who then turned around and sold it to citizens with less money. And the citizens then went north south and west incorporating towns. When they needed bridges or dams or whatever, the money men came in and built them. The army engineers helped out. They were totally capitalist. And, they were all evangelicals. Over 80% of the schools in the country before 1830 were built for Christians with Christian prayers and culture built into the schools. The “secular” schools still taught Christian culture… Washington even sold land to Benjamin Franklin in Philadelphia after winning it from the English. Many in the Continental Army were Pastors, and preached Revolution from their pulpits.

  • AndRebecca

    Well great. At least you can read.

  • RobRBarron

    It’s rare that I get stunned by the sheer ignorance of people…this discordant recitation of *history* is definitely one of those times…

    Every major roadway, canal. lock, dam etc that has been built since this nation was formed was accomplished via the common weal…

    You confuse property rights with capitalism…

    The Founders/Framers absolutely loathed evangelicals…

    “Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by a difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.”

    ~George Washington, letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792

    ~~

    “Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.”

    -John Adams, A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America” 1787-1788

    ~~

    “Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”

    ~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814,

  • AndRebecca

    Oh dear. You have gone off the deep end. Capitalism doesn’t preclude people working together. In fact, when Lenin sent the IWW over here to sabotage the mines before WWI, the Americans working in the mines got rid of them, not the mine owners. But, we are talking about the beginning of the country. You can google the “Phelps and Gorham Purchase” (get it? Purchase?) and you can google “History of the Early Settlers of Sangamon County, Illinois” by John Power to see what the actual settlers/pioneers were all about…Is this what you mean by common weal: Here’s John Eliot, missionary to the Indians, and a preacher in Roxbury when this was written, asking for money for his Christian project, “if God so move your heart, and not only for the common wealth sake; but also for Larnings sake, which I know you love, & will be ready to furder, & indeede we want store of such men, as will furder that, for if we norish not Larning both church an common wealth will sinke: & because I am upon this point I beseech you let me be bold to make one motion, for the furtheranc of Larning among us: God hath bestowed upon you a bounty full blessing,” The Protestants who founded this country were very interested in what went on outside of the church- the public GOOD. And, they believed the propertied people (the capitalists) which they all were, needed to give some of God’s bounty away for the common good. They got their money by being capitalists in the first place. “Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production are owned privately.” As for George Washington’s speech, it wasn’t directed toward evangelicals.

  • LaTisha Jackson

    Why don’t the site owners delete comments from the army of trolls, trained to disrupt our productive exchange? Democracy does not work with the inferior.

  • RobRBarron

    After once again reading your ramblings I can only hope that you were nowhere near a classroom…

    Your first clue should have been that land speculation backed by debt (paper money), which Phelps/Gotham was, would not have been supported by the overwhelming majority of the Founders or Framers.

    The sole exception may have been Hamilton. Ironically, it was Hamilton’s plan that consolidated the debt of the several states (above the howling protests of just about everyone) that, essentially, bankrupted the Phelps/Gotham scheme (deflation good for debt holders…inflation BAD for debt holders…Hamilton’s plan was inflationary).

    The Framers were Mercantilists and this is reflected in Article Section 10:

    No State shall…emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts…

    John Eliot was not a Founder…

    As for George Washington’s speech, it wasn’t directed toward evangelicals.

    It was directed at those who demanded uniform orthodoxy in religious beliefs as dictated by the government…

    Sound familiar?

    Have a nice day…

  • AndRebecca

    You are not O.K. Capital is about borrowing large amounts of money. Good grief, you are too stupid to converse with. The Phelps Gorham is only one example of what went on in the beginning of the country. Many, many high finance projects happened. You know, there are many historical societies around the country with material on America’s past, and much of it is on the internet… Don’t know why you want to show your stupidity… The market is part of capitalism as well. Find yourself some reference books and read them. De-moronize yourself. John Eliot was an example of what the Founders believed in due to their cultural heritage. You still haven’t figures out who George Washington was talking to. In his day, all Americans were evangelicals…and did not want anyone dictating to them a set of beliefs differing from what they were taught in their individual denominations. They believed in Protestantism and had prayers and services everywhere including in the schools.

  • RobRBarron

    John Eliot was an example of what the Founders believed in due to their cultural heritage.

    You’re out of your freakin’ mind if you actually *think* that an obscure English born Puritan/Calvinist who died 50 years before most of the Founders were even born ON THE SOIL of the US had any kind of influence on them…let alone a shared *cultural* heritage…

    Capital is about borrowing large amounts of money.b

    Thank you, Ms. Obvious…

    Phelps Gorham

    Neither were Founders.

    The Founders were predominantly Mercantists who abhorred debtr and speculation…we can chase your tail for as long as you want to on this..it’s not going to change that fact…

  • AndRebecca

    It is difficult to deal with a functional illiterate like you. John Eliot is an example out of thousands in America which I used to point out what the people in that day meant by common weal, a word you used. Where did you come up with the idea that the Founders were the only ones involved with starting America? And, that they didn’t do it by capitalism? And how do you figure merchants can’t be capitalists? The Founders weren’t the ones loaning money, the capitalists were. And, Protestant Anglo Saxons did not have a problem with borrowing or lending money! Where do you come up with this garbage?

  • AndRebecca

    Oh, and here’s Washington, the land Speculator: http://archive.org/stream/jstor-40194510/40194510_djvu.txt Plus, they didn’t “give” land to the men who fought in the Rev War, that’s a figure of speech, they bought the land. And see below.

  • RobRBarron

    You have gone seriously astray from
    Making any kind of rational point.

    You’ve totally bastardized history and you have 0 clue as to what you are attempting to discuss.

    I have an MA in History from Penn…my emphasis was Colonial history…my thesis discussed the Mercantilism of Philadelphia contrasted to the Agrarianism of Williamsburg…

    The Common Weal, doofette, as it was used referred to the infrastructure created by the government for the general welfare of the US. A Puritan missionary trying to convert Indians is not an example…

  • AndRebecca

    I have gone astray? I’ve given you proof and the direction for you to go in to get facts about the founding. You don’t even know that the meaning of words change over the years and have no concept of how this country was founded. You are a disgrace to this country.

  • RobRBarron

    You’ve spouted nonsense…

  • AndRebecca

    You disagree with actual historians and reference books I have cited, and I’ve spouted nonsense. You are a joke.

  • RobRBarron

    Anything else you want to add?

    It would be a first…

  • RobRBarron

    You haven’t made anything remotely akin to a case no matter whom you’ve cited…

  • AndRebecca

    If you had a background in history you would know what I’m referencing.

  • AndRebecca

    You did a paper on Philadelphia and you haven’t even figured out the Quakers were capitalists or that the farmers in Williamsburg used capitalistic agrarian methods as well. You should go in the record books as the dumbest grad ever. I bet you don’t even know the word Philadelphia is out of the Bible.

  • AndRebecca

    Well here are your founders of Philadelphia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Quaker_businesses,_organizations_and_charities They were capitalists before they became communists.

  • RobRBarron

    Joseph Wharton was not a Founder of Philadelphia…Wharton lived in the mid-19th century…

    Philadelphia was *founded* (read settled) by the Dutch and the Swedes in the mid-17th century…after a few years, the Dutch expelled some of the Swedes but allowed some to remain…and then in the late 17th century the British embarked on a campaign to control the waterways in the *New* World…so they conquered the territory from the Dutch (who never forgave the Swedes for *escaping* in the dark of night over to what is now Christiana, Delaware which left the Dutch to face the British Rangers alone)…about 15 years later, Charlie II chartered a wide expanse of land to William Penn…Penn, upon arriving in his *Sylvania* and to ensure peace and comity, purchased some of the land that had been chartered to him on both sides of the Delaware from the Lenape…eventually finding the land on the western shore of the Delaware more suitable for expansion…

  • RobRBarron

    Quakers were Mercantilists when they settled Philadelphia and have maintained a stubborn streak of Mercantilism since…Quakers abhor debt…and Philadelphia’s most famous citizen penned this:

    “Rather go to bed without dinner than to rise in debt.”

    What is a “capitalist agrarian method”?

  • RobRBarron

    The problem for you is that I do have a *background* in History…and I have no idea what you are *referencing*…

  • psychic

    This is beyond hilarious. So now, not only is every problem in the USA Obama’s fault, but you’re blaming him for Canadian election results, too. Stay out of our politics; they don’t concern you. Hopefully the Americanization of Canada is over. Certainly, Harper’s reign is. And why? Because WE got rid of him. Not Obama, not Putin, not whoever else. The Canadian people did. I did. A good seventy percent of us did. We spoke. Blaming Obama for it is just laughably ignorant. Harper’s demise was a long time coming and not because of Obama. Once again I say, stay out of things.you don’t understand.

  • Hambone

    SECOND communist president. You forget Billy.

  • AndRebecca

    You really have a problem processing what you read.

  • AndRebecca

    Well, you need to read Marx in order to know what a capitalist agrarian method is. He was against it. And Marxists of today are against it as well. I don’t have the time to write a book for you on the subject.

  • AndRebecca

    Adjust your tin foil hat and google what I’ve stated. Who knows, maybe if the winds are just right, you’ll get it.

  • AndRebecca

    Third communist president — I forgot Jimmy!

  • RobRBarron

    I don’t need to google. I had nearly three thousand separate source materials for my thesis – including ORIGiNAL documents contemporary to the period…

    You’re trying to bullsh*t the wrong person..

  • RobRBarron

    Putting aside the fact that I’ve not only read Marx hut studied him extensively, there’s no such thing.

    You are in way over your head…

  • RobRBarron

    Did you not state “Here are your founders of Philadelphia…”? And was not Wharton on that list?

    Yes or no?

  • AndRebecca

    So what are your sources? You say America wasn’t built on capitalism. Since that is such a strange thing to say, you really should share your documents with the rest of the world, so we don’t have to think wrong thoughts.

  • AndRebecca

    What are you talking about? Marx wrote about how the capitalists were going to ruin the land with their farming methods. And their food marketing systems. You must have forgot. The Marxists today still do the same thing.

  • RobRBarron

    You didn’t answer my question…

  • RobRBarron

    You are a very confused individual…Capitalist theory was *born* in 1776…the same year that the nation was founded…

    One of the linchpins of Smith’s theory was the Labor Theory of Value or the social value that output creates in a society rather than for the beneficial owner…this was an extension of Hume and his various steppes of moral existence…

    Can you tell me why the Labor Theory of Value has been discarded and is no longer considered *Capitalist*?

    If you google you fail…and believe me…I’ll know if you do…

  • AndRebecca

    I implied that the Quakers were the founders of Philadelphia. Not a specific person on the list.

  • AndRebecca

    Which one of your idiotic questions should I answer for you?

  • AndRebecca

    And, where are your documents? You said you have documents which support this one of a kind theory of yours. Get ’em out here.

  • RobRBarron
  • RobRBarron

    Philadelphia was settled prior to William Penn…Penn established a broader colony…the planning was done from the area now known as Kennet Square but was called “Miller’s Hill” in the 18th century…

  • RobRBarron

    I didn’t ask you any idiotic questions.

    Too bad that you cannot *say* the same…

  • AndRebecca

    So now you are saying the Scot, Adam Smith, started capitalism in America, while at the same time you are saying it wasn’t capitalism which was started in America. Wow, who knew it was possible? FYI, first comes the object-capitalism, in this case, and then comes the study of it-economics. Technology before science. Western Europeans were doing capitalism before Adam Smith came along to explain it.

  • AndRebecca

    And, Leif Ericson discovered America before Columbus…

  • AndRebecca

    I did google your off the wall spaced out Marxist economic theory and now know why you didn’t want me to.

  • RobRBarron

    Bjarni Herjólfsson…

    Nothing of what you believe is true…

  • RobRBarron

    Labor Theory of Value was the core of Adam Smith’s theory of value.

    http://www.economictheories.org/2008/07/adam-smith-theory-of-value.html?m=1

    Why would the Father of Capitalism put such a high regard on labor but in less than 100 years his alleged followers abandoned it? And today, we know that the entirity of the right side of the political spectrum has worked for the destruction of the American worker?

    That “off the wall spaced out Marxist economic theory” is the core of the very 18th and early 19th century Capitalism that you promote….

  • RobRBarron

    “Doing capitalism”?!?

    ROFLMAO…

    Why the practice of financing projects with gold over issuing debt?

  • RobRBarron

    Adam Smith is the Father of Capitalism, doofette.

    I suggest that you contact whatever match pack 800 number correspondent school *gave* you your education and ask for a tuition refund…you got gypped…

  • AndRebecca

    LOL!

  • AndRebecca

    Smith is often called the founder of modern economics. Almost no one except you calls him the founder of capitalism. Almost no one but a couple other off the wall Marxists think Smith had a labor theory of value. No doubt he said something regarding labor which confused you.

  • RobRBarron
  • RobRBarron

    No doubt he said something regarding labor which confused you.

    I gave you several links:

    http://www.economictheories.org/2008/07/adam-smith-theory-of-value.html

    http://eurodos.free.fr/mime/articles/Henry 2000-Adam SmithsTheory of Value.pdf

    I need to extricate myself from this conversation because I’m giving you a credibility that you in no way deserve.

    Have a nice life…

  • AndRebecca

    I guess you are unable to read what you write. You called him the father of capitalism. Talk about short term memory loss.

  • AndRebecca

    I have read Adam Smith’s books. You are confused. You need to extricate yourself from this conversation because you don’t know what you are talking about.

  • RobRBarron

    Please stop lying.

    I linked you directly to Wealth of Nations and the very chapter in which he discusses Labor Theory of Value. I also linked you to scholarly works which discuss Smith’s overall Theory of Value.

    You’re clueless. You’re a poser:. You need to just shut up now.

  • RobRBarron

    Founding Fathers…

    There were two links there moronette…one to Founder one to Father…the terms are interchangeable…

  • AndRebecca

    Let’s see: “Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production are owned privately.” “Many of the institutions of capitalism existed in ancient times. Trade, moneylending, and insurance were well known in Greece and Rome.” “Modern capitalism evolved in the late Middle Ages.” Courtesy of my encyclopedia. The Bible is full of do’s and don’ts regarding capitalism. The Bible reading Calvinists came up with capitalism in the late Middle ages. Why do you have such a problem with your supposed ancestors? Freaky of you.

  • AndRebecca

    Here are some of my favorite Bible verses https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+31%3A10-31&version=KJV A wife is like rubies and a good merchant. The virtues of Capitalism are right in the Bible. I will check out your link.

  • AndRebecca

    And economics and capitalism are the same thing, too? What a dope you are.

  • AndRebecca

    And economics and capitalism are interchangeable as well, I suppose. I looked on your Marxist site and your blog spot. They are supposed to prove what? That you are a Marxist with off the wall theories?

  • Brandi Andrews

    oh better than that, burn a bag of shit on his grave. Obama needs to be taken out before he divides America and Canada. Take away his armed security and see if he goes to Canada. See if he goes anywhere ?

  • Hambone

    I always thought of Jimmuh as more of a naive, incompetent, simple-minded brainwashed dupe rather than an active Red. In effect a VC, aka a Virtual Commanist. The negative effect was the same.