Obama Confirms Relationship with CPUSA Member
AIM Column | By Cliff Kincaid | August 15, 2008
These pathetic attacks will probably generate more interest in the book.
With the release of a 40-page “Unfit for Publication” report attacking Jerome Corsi’s new book, The Obama Nation, it should be obvious that the media-backed presidential candidate, Barack Obama, is terrified of having his carefully concealed communist and foreign connections exposed to public view.
However, the Obama campaign’s attack on Corsi’s book and Corsi personally acknowledges on pages 9 and 10 of its report that the mysterious “Frank” in Obama’s 1995 book, Dreams From My Father, is in fact the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) member Frank Marshall Davis. This identification by AIM and others hasn’t been disputed by the media, which has desperately tried to ignore the Obama-Davis relationship, but the Obama campaign has not responded to it until now.
The admission that Obama’s mentor was Frank Marshall Davis, an identified CPUSA member, can only add to growing public concern about Obama’s relationship with a Communist pawn of Moscow who was the subject of security investigations by the FBI and various congressional committees which examined Soviet activities in the U.S.
According to these official documents, cited first by AIM and also by Corsi in his book, Davis was a secret CPUSA member who became a member of an underground communist apparatus in Hawaii. As late as the 1970s, Davis was involved with a CPUSA front organization, the American Committee for Protection of Foreign Born, dedicated to keeping foreign communists such as labor leader Harry Bridges from being deported from the U.S. Davis, a friend of Bridges, a secret CPUSA member, became Obama’s mentor during the years 1975-1979.
But the Obama report makes no admission that Davis was a communist and doesn’t dispute anything Corsi documents about Davis’s membership in the Communist Party. Instead, the report picks and chooses from Obama’s book in order to try to put some distance between Obama and Davis. The report attempts to play down instances in which Obama soaks up Davis’s anti-American thoughts and pro-communist “poetry.”
But if the relationship were so innocent, why didn’t Obama identify Frank by his full name in his book and denounce his communist and anti-American views? Why doesn’t he denounce those views now?
At this point, it is clear that Corsi is to Obama what the National Enquirer is to admitted adulterer and liar John Edwards. The Enquirer exposed Edwards secret life when the rest of the media were refusing to investigate the candidate and making fun of the Enquirer.
It is noteworthy that the Obama campaign’s “Unfit for Publication” report begins with citing negative “reviews” of the Corsi book from various publications, including the New York Times, Washington Post, and Time magazine. The media are angry and jealous because Corsi did the heavy lifting that the media refuse to do.
While Obama’s communist and foreign connections are of serious and ongoing concern, Corsi’s treatment of Obama’s admitted drug use has emerged as a special raw nerve for the Obama campaign and his media acolytes. They realize that many Americans, whose families have been decimated and destroyed by illegal drugs, may recoil at the thought of having an admitted user of marijuana and cocaine occupy the oval office.
The Attack Begins
Acting on information provided by a left-wing group known as Media Matters, which functions as an unofficial arm of the Democratic Party, the New York Times attacked Corsi for charging that Obama has “yet to answer” whether he ever dealt drugs and when he stopped, if indeed he ever did. The Times protested that Obama has answered that charge, at least the part about quitting marijuana and cocaine, by saying that he hasn’t used drugs since he was 20 years old.
So why did Corsi raise the subject when it supposedly has been put to rest? It’s because, as an experienced investigative reporter, he knows that a few perfunctory denials, which could be expected from someone running for office, do not constitute any form of proof or convincing answer that he in fact ever did quit drugs. As Corsi has suggested in defending his book’s account of Obama’s admitted drug use, self-reporting by drug users about when they quit is notoriously unreliable. Every drug addict claims to have quit at one time or another. That’s what drug testing is all about.
Joyce Nalepka, president of Drug-Free Kids: America’s Challenge, points out that recovering cocaine addicts say that the high from cocaine is so intense that you never stop wanting it. She points to the case of former Washington, D.C. Mayor Marion Barry, who was caught twice using cocaine. Barry was caught in one case as a result of a police sting and another because of court-ordered drug testing.
Don’t you believe Obama when he says he quit drugs? “No,” replied Nalepka. “And I didn’t believe Mayor Barry either.”
The Soros Connection
However, she does believe that, if Obama is elected, his backers in the drug legalization movement funded by billionaire George Soros will press for legalization of marijuana, cocaine and other dangerous drugs. Soros is a big backer of Obama and has contributed financially to his campaign.
During the Reagan Administration, Nalepka served as the president of the anti-drug group that Nancy Reagan served as honorary chair. She warns that Obama has “voted for at least two pro-legalization [of marijuana] bills” and that drug legalization advocates are spreading the word that Obama will not support federal enforcement of federal marijuana arrests. She said a questionnaire, which includes the question, “Do you support keeping drug possession, dealing and trafficking a crime?,” has not been answered by the Obama campaign. John McCain, on the other hand, vows to “uphold the law,” she says.
When she made several calls trying to find out what happened to the questionnaire, an Obama staff member said that the appropriate official would call “within the hour.” But that was “weeks ago,” Nalepka says.
Even if Obama took and passed a drug test, Nalepka says she would never vote for him, explaining, “It appalls me at the thought that people would be naïve enough to vote for someone who admits drug use.” She says this view stems from 30 years of “watching parents wail and cry and talk about the hell their families went through” because of marijuana, cocaine and other drugs.
“I would never vote for an elected official who was ever a drug user,” she tells AIM. “We have to get this country back to being an honorable nation with honorable people running it.”
But the views of Nalepka and others in the campaign against illegal drugs have been ignored by media anxious to accept Obama’s word that he has quit dangerous mind-altering drugs.
Nalepka is concerned that progress that has been made is at risk. “We worked long and hard to close those drug paraphernalia shops in the 1980s and long and hard again to get student drug testing in the schools so we could get drugs out of the schools,” she said. “And we’re going to allow someone to come in to the White House of the United States of America who was a drug user?”
Corsi’s account of Obama’s drug use is apparently one of many “lies” that an official Obama campaign spokesman has alleged to be in the book. The Times story defending Obama against Corsi’s book was followed by a Washington Post story attacking the author. The liberal media have been forced to take note of the book because it has become number one on the New York Times bestseller list.
The Davis Connection
Regarding the Davis-Obama relationship, now confirmed by the Obama campaign, the Post, as well as its “conservative” competitor, the Washington Times, recently ran a dishonest Associated Press story that portrayed Davis as a positive influence on Obama who had no affiliation with the CPUSA. This was the real lie.
Prior to that, the only time the Post came close to mentioning Davis was after I held a May 22 news briefing on the subject and Post reporter Dana Milbank attended and then attacked our event without mentioning that the main subject was none other than Frank Marshall Davis. Of course, dishonest coverage like this helps explain why Corsi’s book is meeting a pent-up demand for facts about the candidate and is so successful. The American people understand that they are not getting the truth about Obama from the mainstream media.
Another line of attack—that Corsi is doing the bidding of the Republican Party and the John McCain campaign—makes no sense because Corsi writes very critically of McCain and is a member of the Constitution Party, which is fielding its own presidential candidate, Chuck Baldwin, this fall. Plus, Corsi’s editor at WorldNetDaily, where he writes regularly, is Joseph Farah, whose book, None of the Above, argues against Obama and McCain.
The pro-Obama media emphasize that the Corsi book is published by Simon & Schuster’s Threshold Editions, whose main editor is former GOP strategist Mary Matalin. The 40-page Obama report dishonestly claims the Corsi book is “brought to you by the Bush/Cheney Attack Machine.” But it is clearly the case that Corsi and Farah are independent conservatives who have no allegiance to the GOP. Corsi has written articles and even a book attacking the Bush/Cheney Administration’s secretive Security and Prosperity Partnership, a forerunner for an emerging North American Union.
Corsi has written a book on Obama for the obvious reason that little is known about the Democratic candidate, and there is no evidence that the major media are interested in uncovering or publicizing the hidden facts about him. On the other hand, the media are doing a good job covering McCain’s controversial connections, such as his ties to lobbyists for foreign countries.
Post reporter Eli Saslow writes that the Corsi book “lacks major revelations.” Wouldn’t it be nice if the Post let us decide that for ourselves? Why not run a true and accurate story about Frank Marshall Davis and let the readers decide? But Saslow must figure that such a story would only hurt the media’s candidate.
Saslow let the truth slip: “Until recently, he [Obama] had the luxury of presenting his story alone.” Since when should a presidential candidate have the ability to present his own story without critical comment and investigation by the media? And especially on the subject of admitted use of marijuana and cocaine and connections to communists? But that has been the case with Obama, and that is why Corsi is being attacked.
Larry King as Obama Puppet
As part of the campaign to destroy Corsi, some reporters have dredged up some controversial comments he posted on a website that people found objectionable. CNN’s Larry King, with the help of a “progressive” from Media Matters named Paul Waldman, tried this and other tactics on his show on Wednesday night. They are just a diversion from the substance of the book. King found Corsi guilty of “false” claims against Obama even before he introduced Corsi on the show.
On the other hand, King identified Waldman as being from “A progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing and correcting conservative misinformation in the United States media.” This is how the organization, which has significant links to the Democratic Party, describes itself. It started out as a front for Hillary Clinton but is now spending most of its time defending Obama.
It is interesting to note that the title of the official Obama campaign report on Corsi, “Unfit for Publication,” was an actual headline over a previous Media Matters account of Corsi’s book. In attacking AIM’s reporting on the costs of Obama’s Global Poverty Act, the Obama report also cites misleading charges from Media Matters (Jonathon Moseley addresses this controversy in the August-B AIM Report.) So it is obvious that the Obama campaign and Media Matters are colluding.
These pathetic attacks will probably generate more interest in the book. And once people read the book, they will only have more questions and suspicions about Obama and his powerful media machine.
Cliff Kincaid is the Editor of the AIM Report and can be reached at
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KKKliff !!! Obama is not a communist, he’s an alien lizard from the planet zenu !
But keep up your good work, your psychotic rambling is always entertaining to read !
KINCAID WROTE: But if the relationship were so innocent, why didn’t Obama identify Frank by his full name in his book and denounce his communist and anti-American views? Why doesn’t he denounce those views now?
RESPONSE: Obama didn’t identify “Frank” by his full name in his book because he identified a number of people only by their first names. This is common practice in a memoir. I would think a journalist like Cliff Kincaid should know that. Obama probably did not (and does not) denounce his “communist and anti-American views” because Davis did not reveal any “communist and anti-American views” to Obama. What specific “communist and anti-American views” is Kincaid referrring to?
His demand for fair wages and other benefits for workers?
His demands for equal protection of the laws?
His demands for freedom of the press?
His support for a woman’s right to choose?
His demand for integration of the armed forces?
His support for the integration of the AFL and CIO?
His demand to end restrictive covenants in real estate:
His support for the Fair Employment Practices Act?
His demand for general dismantling of all laws supporting racial segregation
His demand for an end to laws support anti-Semitism?
His demand for an end to nuclear weapons?
His demand for the rights of soldiers in combat zones to vote in national elections?
His support for a broad United Nations (not just the U.S. and Great Britain forming a world power union)?
KINCAID WROTE: “Regarding the Davis-Obama relationship, now confirmed by the Obama campaign, the Post, as well as its “conservative” competitor, the Washington Times, recently ran a dishonest Associated Press story that portrayed Davis as a positive influence on Obama who had no affiliation with the CPUSA. This was the real lie.”
RESPONSE: What evidence do you have that Davis was not a positive influence? If the AP’s failure to mention Davis’s affiliation with the CPUSA is a “lie,” then AIM’s portrayal of Davis’s “Red Army” poem as anti-American is ALSO a lie, because AIM failed to mention that the Red Army was an ALLY of the United States when the poem was written. If AIM-speak considers half-truths to be “lies,” then AIM may one of the world’s biggest liars because AIM columns regarding Davis are filled with half-truth’s including the facts that:
-When Davis opposed U.S. entry into WWII, both Congress and the general population opposed U.S. entry into WWII. Failure to mention Davis’s position was the common position was a half-truth, and therefore a “lie” in AIM-speak.
-When Davis was associated with communist-affiliated institutions, other leading African-American writers, such as Richard Wright and Langston Hughes were ALSO associated with communist-affiliated institutions. It was NORMAL for African-American writers to be associated with communist-affiliated institutions for one simple reason. According to The New Red Negro ONLY the Communist left had any significant institutional impact on African-American writing during the 1930s and 1940s. This support was crucial as the institutions that had maintained the New Negro Renaissance faded. And for better or for worse, the leading CPUSA functionaries involved in “Negro work” took a direct interest in African-American cultural production in a manner that was unusual, if not unique. Failure to mention that Davis’s association with communist-affiliated institutions was NORMAL during that period was a half-truth, and therefore a “lie” in AIM-speak.
AIM should be careful about calling the kettle “black.” If AIM’s half-truths are added to AIM’s direct falsehoods, they may set a new record in the Annals of Prevarication.
CLIFF KINCAID WROTE: But if the relationship were so innocent, why didn’t Obama identify Frank by his full name in his book and denounce his communist and anti-American views? Why doesn’t he denounce those views now?
RESPONSE: Obama didn’t identify “Frank” by his full name in his book because he identified a number of people only by their first names. This is common practice in a memoir. I would think a journalist like Cliff Kincaid should know that. Obama probably did not (and does not) denounce his “communist and anti-American views” because Davis did not reveal any “communist and anti-American views” to Obama. What specific “communist and anti-American views” is Kincaid referrring to?
His demand for fair wages and other benefits for workers?
His demands for equal protection of the laws?
His demands for freedom of the press?
His support for a woman’s right to choose?
His demand for integration of the armed forces?
His support for the integration of the AFL and CIO?
His demand to end restrictive covenants in real estate:
His support for the Fair Employment Practices Act?
His demand for general dismantling of all laws supporting racial segregation
His demand for an end to laws support anti-Semitism?
His demand for an end to nuclear weapons?
His demand for the rights of soldiers in combat zones to vote in national elections?
His support for a broad United Nations (not just the U.S. and Great Britain forming a world power union)?
KINCAID WROTE: “Regarding the Davis-Obama relationship, now confirmed by the Obama campaign, the Post, as well as its “conservative” competitor, the Washington Times, recently ran a dishonest Associated Press story that portrayed Davis as a positive influence on Obama who had no affiliation with the CPUSA. This was the real lie.”
RESPONSE: What evidence do you have that Davis was not a positive influence? If the AP’s failure to mention Davis’s affiliation with the CPUSA is a “lie,” then AIM’s portrayal of Davis’s “Red Army” poem as anti-American is ALSO a lie, because AIM failed to mention that the Red Army was an ALLY of the United States when the poem was written. If AIM-speak considers half-truths to be “lies,” then AIM may one of the world’s biggest liars because AIM columns regarding Davis are filled with half-truth’s including the facts that:
-When Davis opposed U.S. entry into WWII, both Congress and the general population opposed U.S. entry into WWII. Failure to mention Davis’s position was the common position was a half-truth, and therefore a “lie” in AIM-speak.
-When Davis was associated with communist-affiliated institutions, other leading African-American writers, such as Richard Wright and Langston Hughes were ALSO associated with communist-affiliated institutions. It was NORMAL for African-American writers to be associated with communist-affiliated institutions for one simple reason. According to The New Red Negro ONLY the Communist left had any significant institutional impact on African-American writing during the 1930s and 1940s. This support was crucial as the institutions that had maintained the New Negro Renaissance faded. And for better or for worse, the leading CPUSA functionaries involved in “Negro work” took a direct interest in African-American cultural production in a manner that was unusual, if not unique. Failure to mention that Davis’s association with communist-affiliated institutions was NORMAL during that period was a half-truth, and therefore a “lie” in AIM-speak.
AIM should be careful about calling the kettle “black.” If AIM’s half-truths are added to AIM’s direct falsehoods, they may set a new record in the Annals of Prevarication.
Sorry guys, I have to say something here, or I can not get email notifications from AIM so I can follow the comments - and OH! The Plot Thickens, and this is sure going to be great. Between Cliff Kincaid, Jonathon Moseley and Mr Corsi’s book - Abomination, me thinks the American Traitor - Osamabama - is toast in November - as he should be - sorry MSM - Gore, Strike One, Kerry, Strike Two, and Osambama, Strike Three - You’re outa here - can Americans ever again believe even the most minor of items in your so-called newscasts EVER Again?
Now we just have to hope that at the Democrat Convention in weeks the #### does not hit the fan so fast that the Wolves in Sheeps clothing of the Democrat Party do not bring Hillary back - because I think Hillary can beat McCain - and even sadder than that is in November when REAL Republicans are forced once again to plug their noses and vote for McCain - and that plugging might just asphyxiate us.
Looking forward as Osambama slinks from the world stage as Edwards is doing right now as the scum that he is!!
As America learns about Obama’s friendship and political beliefs with members of the Communist Party, USA, Americans will turn away from supporting him and his political beliefs. America must turn away from Communism in support of free loving Judeo-Christian values.
Does anybody else possess the presence of mind to recognise the hypocrisy in AIM promoting itself as a media watchdog? Just take a glance at the front page, and the juxtaposition of headlines alone gives it away—this is not a site promoting accuracy or criticising bias, but a spin machine with an obvious right-wing agenda. Now, i don’t have a problem with that—everyone is entitled to his/her opinion—but it reeks of ethical bankruptcy when one masquerades bias behind an ostensible interest in accuracy.
The nail in the coffin is the very notion that Jerome Corsi, his pitiful misapplication of ink and woodpulp, and the shrill audacities contained therein, are worth so much as a mention—especially the way he is quoted above, which not only deigns to ignore the fact that Corsi is naught but an opportunistic liar, but actually quotes the man as though he were a credible authority. The fact that the book made #1 on the NYT Bestseller List simply confirms that evaluating literary merit or relevance solely on the basis of sales is a fundamentally flawed system, and is the main reason Americans carry the reputation of being so dubiously literate. If you consider Corsi’s pack of lies to be relevant political analysis, then you would no doubt find your mind wracked with glorious insight upon reading The Employee Manual for the McDonald’s Corp. Soft Drink Dispenser.
Perhaps you haven’t heard, but Corsi has a scheduled appearance on the white supremacist talk-show, ‘The Political Cesspool.’ Yeah…sounds like a hell of a proving ground for credible sources.
I have been posting on Politico the fact of Obama’s mentoring by the communist, Frank Marshall Davis, for a couple of months, along with his connection to Raila Odinga, the socialist PM of Kenya that Obama campaigned for in 2006. After Odinga lost the election, his Muslim Forum pact supporters went on a murderous rampage killing Christians, which brought about the intervention of the AU, and Obama himself, to stop the slaughter by installing Odinga in a power-sharing arrangement. What struck me was the somewhat muted responses from the leftists, as opposed to their normal obscene and over-the-top rants for their messiah. They already knew about his background, and were just hoping that it stayed hidden through the election. Now, the American people can vote up or down on a true closet muslim and marxist candidate. He is toast, and the urban war slated for Denver will only pour more fuel on the flames.
Has the Obama story as written by Jerome Corsi now going to be sent to the “race issue”, rather than discussed on by the facts? Is playing the “race issue” the only way the left may be able to win on this one? America is sick and tired of the “race issue” on every losing left wing issues. The radical Liberal left brings up the “race issue”, then only to try to blame the Conservatives.
@Oscar Y. Harward: What facts? Most of the shrill screed in Corsi’s book is based on half-truths or imaginings in the first place. Corsi, now as in the past, is good at one thing—playing on the general reluctance to second-guess anything in print (read: gullibility) in order to eviscerate his targets’ character. While you may be skeptical of the ‘race issue,’ it should be obvious to all but the quite willfully naïve that Corsi (and many other Obama detractors) have stooped to racism and xenophobia, and there’s no excuse for that. However, when people call out Corsi, et al for taking cheap shots, they’re accused of ‘playing the race card.’
i’m tired of this pointless bickering and below-the-belt punches. What—is the plan to only start bringing up relevant issues once somebody is already elected?
To MKD - #3:
Right on!
And, if the Commies are so bad - - why has the government gone into Big Business with the Communist Chinese? How many American manufacturing and production jobs have been lost to the Communist Chinese?
It’s the height of hypocrisy to berate Obama because, as a child, he had an association with an adult (and black) American Communist poet - - while, at the same time, supporting the current government’s and Wall Street’s selling out of American workers to the Communist Chinese - - for money!
It’s oxymoronic. Or, maybe, just plain racist
BlackHat, AIM is to conservatives as Politico is to liberals. I read both, but at least here I get to put in a word now and then.
The only way to be truly informed is to take in as many views as possible and sort out in your own mind the fact from the spin.
This is a great and informative article, like it or not, and the topic will not go away quickly.
@Slinkicat: You said, “The only way to be truly informed is to take in as many views as possible and sort out in your own mind the fact from the spin.”
You think i don’t know that? That’s why i’m still here. However, i stand by my criticism of organisations that market themselves as ‘media watchdogs’, against bias, but in turn end up spreading bias and disinformation. As i said, it’s hypocritical. AIM is guilty of it, Politico is guilty of it, as is FOX News and, et al. About the only truly unbiased, non-partisan website i can think of is factcheck.org.
Oh…and about the above ‘great and informative article,’ how do you qualify Corsi’s unsubstantiated rumours and outright lies as ‘great and informative’?
Black hat, how do you jive up “Dreams of My Father,” which doesn’t match some facts? Do you still believe in the tooth fairy, too?
Cowboyu6, fair/unbiased press would have a field day with Obama… moreso than with OJ, and they sure over-followed it.
What IS an AMERICAN SENATOR, who hasn’t even taken his Senatorial chair, doing going to a Muslim country, criticizing THEIR President, and standing on the platform with his opponent. Why
wasn’t THAT investigated? We KNOW why it wasn’t reported, lol.
The blackout on the battle in Halls of the House, Obama never bringing forth his Birth Certificate, that trip to Kenya….I’m sure our
forefathers never DREAMED of such from a “free press.”
One GOOD thing came of it, though. The American people will never trust the common media again..and I personally hope their sponsors catch on to that.
I have a relative, and it is said of him, “You know he’s lying when his lips move.” Gee, I haven’t asked them their opinion of the MSM. Does
that mean Main Stream Media, or Mighty Sorry Mess?
Oh well.
The big thing about this election that concerns me is the electronic voting machines. I feel that the whizzes have shown they can be compromised. Congress, I believe it was (may be another gov’t branch) wouldn’t okay $75 million
(peanuts nowadays) for “back up” paper ballots.
So. Maybe my son has it right: We have given God the bird; we have thumbed our noses at Him. He doesn’t even have to “wreak vengenance” upon us. Is all He has to do is to turn His face from us, and we’ll do it to ourselves.
I’m 74. I KNEW A BETTER AMERICA. Today, it is like a foreign nation in comparason. So sad. So
true.
Blackhat and other Obama supporters. Corsi is not the first that has discovered the information on Obama. Several people took it upon themselves to do the vetting because the Soros-backed news was not reporting the truth.
Many of us have documentated information that we have sent to the media. These documents were verified, along with sealed proof. No one wanted to report it.
Corsi, is not the only author who has found all of this information out. Perhaps if you read the book and follow the footnotes, who will see for yourself. If Corsi or any other author was slandering me, I’d want to belittle he/she back. Definitely, discredit that person.
All of us who have done individual and group vetting on Obama, welcome all to do their own research. You’ll find out that all he’s been saying and promoting is a fraud.
There are so many things about Barack Obama/Barry Soetoro that many of us have uncovered and it makes us cringe.
As Kbentleyls said you Obama supporters are more than welcome to do your own research. We have, and we have found we will NEVER vote for Obama no matter how much glitz and glitter the DNC tries to polish him with or how many lofty speeches he gives.
A bomb is still a bomb no matter if it’s wrapped with gilt paper and tied with a big shiny bow.
LOL, BlackHat! I guess you don’t read Media Matters, or it would top your list of phony media watchdogs. I unsubbed from FactCheck a couple of weeks ago because it is totally biased and rarely even mentions the many lies told by Obama while it nitpicks nuances in McCain’s ads.
Carolyn, you are a rare jewel. Don’t you wish the young liberals knew as much as they think they do? Even Obama himself, the “anointed one”, who presents himself as the answer to all the problems of this country, while being unable to answer a straight question about his own positions.
Aren’t you glad this is the great country it is, rather than the failure Obama thinks needs his communist-style change? I sure am.
P.S. Okay, this is the tenth time I’ve tried to post to this thread, and each time I get a phony response that I haven’t copied the code word exactly. Fortunately, after the first time I copied my response and pasted it, which I advise each of you to do before submitting, just in case.
PPS, KBentley, you are totally right. Let us pray all the truth comes out.
All you left wing Liberals may decide to add John Edwards to your list of believers for Sen. Obama. You know, just recently, John was saying the right wing media was lying also. Now, the entire media agrees that John Edwards was lying then, and is still lying today. I wonder if John, himself, believes what he is saying. John may consider cutting to the end, tell the truth, and maybe finally admit that even his so-called “junk science” he practiced in the courtrooms and made him many millions of dollars should or could be returned to clear his conscience. With that, he may advise Obama to clean his conscience to admit his love for those other than our America, and our free loving Americans.
OSCAR HARWARD WROTE: “Has the Obama story as written by Jerome Corsi now going to be sent to the “race issue”, rather than discussed on by the facts? Is playing the “race issue” the only way the left may be able to win on this one? America is sick and tired of the “race issue” on every losing left wing issues. The radical Liberal left brings up the “race issue”, then only to try to blame the Conservatives.”
RESPONSE: Virtually all research will contain some errors. When the pattern of error is consistent, however, it suggests that the researcher is motivated by something other than truth.
Some people still insist that Frank Marshall Davis was a “huge influence” on Barack Obama because Obama attended college after Davis advised it, despite Obama receiving similar advice from other sources.
By the same logic, the fact that the United States has implemented most of Davis’s “radical” recommendations in comment #3 may also mean that Davis had a “huge influence” on domestic and international policy of the United States, despite the United States receiving similar advice from other sources. (That’s only if you ignore the post hoc fallacy, that is.)
For everyone else, it should be obvious that advice does not necessarily mean influence.
Hyperman, I take it you think your puerile ad hominem attack on Kincaid is indicative of intelligent liberal discourse? Please present your proof that Kincaid is a racist if you have the courage or integrity to do so. My bet is that you think anyone who opposes Sen. Obama is a racist.
You are a dangerous person. There are people out there who will believe the trash that you spew out into the world. Look to yourself and grow up and do some good on the planet.
Carol, there are several of us who have responded to this article. Which one is the “dangerous person”?
How can we believe anything Barack Obama says? What Obama says today is different from yesterday, and probably will be different tomorrow. It seems as if Obama and the Reid/Pelosi team are punishing consumers and want to leave everyone with at least one automobile in the driveway, as consumers cannot purchase gasoline to drive. Drill now for oil, to provide more gasoline at reasonable prices. The Reid/Pelosi team disallows even an open vote on the Republican leaders on Capitol Hill to allow for drilling for more oil. That is what is costing the consumers more cost for gasoline, as well as purchasing all products at their stores, just to pay the transportation cost. The Democrats on Capitol Hill headed by Barack Obama and the Reid/Pelosi team are punishing all consumers for not allowing more oil drilling now. All you left wing Liberals may decide to add John Edwards to your list of believers for Sen. Obama. Is it a lie to continue to change your positions everyday, or is it a lie to fail to tell the truth as John Edwards is now being charged? Or is it just a lie to blame Barack Obama and the Liberal Reid/Pelosi team for anything?
To Carol Bayard and Blackhat:
If I am the dangerous person Carol refers to, thank you for the compliment. I am a dangerous person to the designs of Osama Obama and his leftist clique, and will continue to be. Saw forms last night from OO indicating he was a muslim, and also with an alias, Barry Soreto, not sure of the last name spelling. Have to wonder about the strident and over the top denials of him ever being a muslim. Thought being a muslim was ok, so why the violent reaction to the obvious fact that he was once a muslim, if not still a muslim? Same with his relationship with “Frank” Marshall Davis, the Hawaiian communist, who mentored him in the ways of radicalism and political organization. In addition to a place of honor in Osama Obama’s book, he honored “Frank” by moving to Chicago, Frank’s former home, to live and learn among the radicals like Ayers, Dohrn, Sol Alinsky, Wright, and many others. He obviously learned his lessons well, especially the #1 communist rule, hide your true identity and blend in with the masses until you achieve power. Sadly for you leftist loons, the whole house of cards is collapsing, and at an accelerating rate. Denver will be the final hurrah for your faux messiah, as Repeat ‘68 and the other crackpots put on their show for the American voter. And Obambi is now tied with McCain in the polls even before this gift from Denver. LOL
I really haven’t heard Obama “Say” anything… he memorizes speeches and knows how to drop ‘code words’ like change! and preach as well as any Bible belt Evangelist… but he says NOTHING… The kind of change he will bring about.. we are not going to be able to live with.
I’m as sick about being “stuck” with McCain as the rest of the conservative masses are.
This is what we will always have as long as the primaries are structures as they are.
We’re stuck with the choice of voting for “the lesser of the two evils”.
I for one am sick of that same choice over and over again.
One of the largest problem we face today is voters who doesn’t put any time into finding out about the candidates and their stand on policies before they vote.
Reasons such as… I’m voting for him because…. “he’s younger”....“he’s older”...“it’s time for a black President” ... or (my personal favorite).. “he’s cute”... now that is a informed voter! It’s enough to make head explode.
Cowboyup6, we need more well-spoken “dangerous” people like you. The trouble is that half the voters in this country are very poorly informed and treat the presidential election like an American Idol selection.
Good looks, a melodious voice and great stage presence are the determining factors, regardless of the usual empty words interspersed with a few dangerously naive plans. Qualifications to lead the greatest country on earth in times of war? Oh, that doesn’t matter at all. He’s over 35 and an American. Besides, he wants “change” - Right out of Saul Alinsky. He only has to fool half the people to bring down this great country from within.
@cowboyup6: Will you drop the pitiful “Obama’s a Muslim!” “Obama’s a Communist!” bullsh*t, already?! i honestly don’t care who is voting for whom, but the character assassination has reached some really abject lows this election season, and from what i’ve seen, those flinging the most pungent excrement are so-called conservatives.
In case you didn’t get the memo, a long time has passed since 1954. i’m pleased to inform you that Joe McCarthy is dead, as is communism itself, for all intents and purposes. Moreover, this country was never in any kind of peril of being ‘taken over’ by communists—the Red Scares were ruses concocted in order to whip people like you into a state of fear, and subjection to the government. The fact is, and remains in perpetuity, that the US treasures its beloved capitalism entirely too much for another economic system to replace it—and to believe that could happen due to one man winning the presidency is…well…suffice it to say, i’ve heard more intelligent discourse from crackheads.
Is it that nobody can conjure up any legitimate criticism of Obama…is that the reason for all the ignorant, nauseating invective? If that’s the case, then the Right truly is pathetic. Believe me, even i can come up with legitimate criticism of Obama—based on actual issues—in spite of the fact i plan on voting for the man!
Obama is not a Muslim, nor is he a communist. Period. Now, i’m not here to defend Obama’s campaign platform—he can do that on his own. However, i’m sick and tired of disinformation and irrelevant banter. If you can’t come up with something real, then do everybody a favour and shut up.
@Slinkiecat: cowboyup6 is well-spoken? Ha! Dangerous?! are you kidding me? i’m convinced you wouldn’t know ‘dangerous’ if it pistol-whipped you!
Cliches and assonance with ‘Osama’ hardly passes for intelligent discourse…
For Obama, it is not a case of “character assassination”. It is a case of “lack of character” on Obama for free loving Americans who wish to keep our US Constitution with our freedoms enclosed. People are learning facts concerning Obama. If you lay down with the dogs, you will get fleas on you. It appears Obama may be dirtier than a pig in a mud puddle. Now, that is dirty. When you regularly associate with members of the Communist Party, you will, also, become infected with Communism ideology
Oscar, you reinforce the very point i’m trying to make—you talk about how you’re apparently afraid Obama, if elected, will somehow compromise your freedoms under the Constitution, how it’s a “lack of character,” etc.
Consider my position here—it’s very difficult to carry on a conversation with someone, when they will not (or perhaps cannot) back up their assertions with facts.
...and yes, it is character assassination to conjure up ridiculous, totally unfounded (and sweepingly disproved) rumours that ‘Obama is a Muslim radical, and he’s been sent by al Qaeda to destroy America from the inside…” or “Obama had a communist friend when he was younger, therefore, if Obama is elected, he’s going to make this whole, voraciously capitalist country ‘go communist’ overnight.” Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds?
Let Obama prove to the American public himself that he has character - Over the past two years he has proven just the opposite, with his many associations and long-standing friendships with nefarious and bigoted anti-American people like communist Frank Davis, the hateful anti-semitic Rev. Wright, criminal Tony Rezko, unrepentent terrorist Bill Ayers and his cohort Doerhn, various terrorist supporters in his campaign that he has had to toss aside once they were revealed, and so on. Where does it stop? This phony baloney snake-oil salesman fancies himself the savior of the world, to the point of thinking he can stop the seas from rising, tear down walls when he works day and night to build them.
How can any person with a brain think of promoting this totally unqualified beginner to the top spot in the nation without admitting to total idiocy? This shameful Democrat party has taken politics to a new low. Even the phony John Kerry had ten times the qualification of Obama, and he lost because of his flip-flops, as will your junior Senator Obama.
Obama is twice dangerous because of his naivete which allows the anti-American Soros to control him, and his combined communist and Black Liberation Theology linked to Islam.
All we can do is fight the liberals who want to put this weak puppet into the White House so they can control him and destroy this great country.
Oh, yes - Don’t forget to pray, a lot.
Let me just say “Amen” to Slinkiecat. It could not be said any better. America deserves better. Obama is associating with what appears to be dirty personalities, and Obama should know better, if he had solid common sense.
Popolo, I didn’t mean to lump the commie in with the bigots, but he is just as bad with his influence on a young boy who is so easily steered in the wrong direction. Frank Davis shares the blame for corrupting Obama, a gifted young man who could have become a great patriot without this turn to the far left.
Slinkiecat:
What evidence do you have that Frank Davis corrupted Obama?
Thanks!
Still waiting for someone to say something intelligent…
Allow me to reiterate what i’ve asked before: Is there anybody involved in this discussion who is capable of pointing out a concrete reason for their disdain of Obama? i’m talking evidence here. Frankly, all i’ve heard anybody say here is that “Obama knew a communist when he was younger [Frank Davis]. Therefore, he [Obama] is a dyed-in-the-wool communist, and will destroy America if elected.” Is that basically the extent of people’s thinking here? If that’s the case, then how (using actual examples, rather than hollow rhetoric) and why do you draw these conclusions. Honestly—i’m not being facetious—i’d really like to know. Thank you.
You can’t be both a Communist and a Moslem. The first bunch were atheists, the second group are fervent monotheists. You can’t be a Moslem and also attend Christian services and proclaim Jesus is the Son of God. To do so violates Sharia, the Islamic theological law code. The punishment, according to the Koran, should be death, followed by eternal damnation. How could anybody today be a Communist unless he/she were forced to be or were insane or just plain stupid. Whatever else he is, Obama is neither unintelligent or a psychotic. Besides, would Obama be that stupid after the failure of Communism is plan for all to see? Does anyone think he hasn’t seen what has happened to Russia and China? Even officially Communist countries - the few that remain like N. Korea and Cuba - are adopting captalism. Plus, just HOW could Obama impose Marxism on the US? The president is neither a king nor a dictator.
But some things are clear: Corsi is a liar, a hypocrite and a blasphemer. He dodged the draft with student deferments in 1964-72 but claims he is a patriot. He besmirched the reputation of a true war hero with a Silver Star and three (3!) Purple Hearts. Corsi’s book, Unfit for Command, has been clearly shown to be a collection of lies. Corsi claims to be a Roman Catholic. But he got divorced and then remarried in 1991. That means automatic excommunication under Canon Law. And Corsi called the greatest pope of the last several centuries, John Paul the Great, on his way to being proclaimed a saint, to be “senile.” How could anyone believe what such a worm writes? If you don’t want to vote for Obama, that’s your business. But to accept nonsensical lies about the man’s religion and political beliefs is to reveal your own ignorance. Finally, if you really believe such ridiculous stories, shouldn’t you be preparing to flee to New Zealand or maybe even Mars? After all, Obama is likely to be elected. If what Corsi has written is true, to blog attacks on Obama is to ensure you will be sent to the American Gulag and worked to death. Is Corsi preparing to leave the US? I don’t think so. In other words, his actions reveal he is a scummy con man and a black-tongued liar.
Mark asked: “What evidence do you have that Frank Davis corrupted Obama?”
I can point to the big government give-away programs Obama promises to buy votes - Free health care, college tuition, race-based initiatives, global poverty bill, etc. - hundreds of billions of dollars that we don’t have. This is communism, Marxism, socialism, whatever you want to call it. Certainly it is not the kind of ideology that made this country grow into the strong and free nation we are today, and that he wants to change.
Next is Obama’s desire to cut our nation’s defense, our nuclear arsenal, anti-ballistic missile program, and military strength.
On top of that, Obama wants to conscript our young people into a sort of domestic Peace Corps to give them government jobs instead of letting them make their own way into our free market system and earn their way up. This is communism.
If you’ve read any of Saul Alinsky’s work, which inspired Obama, you would see how it influenced him to follow those teachings in his only job in Chicago, the ACORN “community organizer” position that was formed to unite the black churches into a large voting block.
Only an Alinsky-inspired communist would take on this “messiah” persona to elevate himself to a point where he thinks he can heal the world and stop the rise of the seas, without even having made a difference in South Chicago, which still wallows in crime and poverty.
If Obama were a leader, you’d surely expect that he would have solved some of Chicago’s problems, and then as an Illinois Senator would have made a mark there, maybe getting rid of some very corrupt politicians… oh, well. Those corrupt politicians are the ones who launched Obama’s political career. He owes them.
Brian, you said: “You can’t be both a Communist and a Moslem…”
That is right, but it doesn’t preclude being influenced by both. Obama’s Marxist programs he promises to institute if he is elected prove the communist influence. This is probably stronger even than his Muslim influence from following Rev. Wright and Louis Farrakhan. Obama mentions in his book “Dreams of My Father” that he would stand with the Muslims if the political winds should turn in an ugly direction. This has gotten him support from several Islamic groups, both domestic and foreign.
We know Obama finally denounced the Trinity United Christian Church after much media exposure of the bigoted and hate-filled rhetoric they constantly supported. If Obama didn’t believe it all, it’s unlikely he would have attended that church for 20 years. Obama does not share the deeply held beliefs of most Christians, especially in the issue of the sanctity of human life from conception to death.
As a political hack, Obama can pretend to be any religion he wishes, and with the ability to change with the wind, he can go back and forth easily from atheism to Christianity, mouthing the appropriate phrases depending on his audience. He is a phony all the way through.
Obama may well be stupid enough to be blind to the failure of communism. He was too young to realize its danger through the mid-1900s when we were building bomb shelters in all public buildings and doing drills in the schools in case the USSR decided to nuke us.
Obama has no clue about what to do about Russia. He had to wait a day and try to rephrase what Bush said.
Obama doesn’t seem to know that he isn’t running for president of the world. All that pandering to Germans and other Europeans got him nothing here at home. Americans know what we need is someone who will put America first, not one who fancies himself first a “citizen of the world.” Some of his statements were rather dictatorial, though, such as that he would demand more of the Europeans.
Corsi did us a great service when he exposed John Kerry as a liar, a hypocrite and a pretender. Kerry never was able to prove a single word of the Swiftboat Veterans false. Kerry lied to a Congressional Committee about his fellow soldiers and accused them of atrocities that he admitted he had committed himself. He should have been dishonorably discharged for his actions.
Fortunately for America, Obama is not likely to win the election. The more the voters learn about him, and hear his empty words, the less they like him. I saw today that Rasmussen Poll has him down another six points over the past week, to dead even with McCain. We can all take heart. Americans are not as dumb as you think.
There’s a logical fallacy here. It’s called an Ad hominem attack:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Let me provide an example.
Lets say Ken Lay donates to George Bush’s campaign
lets say George Bush calls Ken lay a good friend and kenny Boy
Lets say Ken Lay is a crook
therefore:
Can I say that George Bush is a crook?
of course not.
@scott: George Bush is a crook, but independently of your logic exercise.
@Slinkiecat: First, considering communism has a great many flavours, it’s not impossible that someone might find a way to put the two together.
You’re making a gross exaggeration calling Obama’s proposals, i.e. heath care, ‘Marxist.’ i suppose you believe that FDR was a Marxist as well?
Also, so far as i know, Obama has no association with Louis Farrakhan. Furthermore, if you listened to the unedited Rev. Wright sermons, rather than the ones severely cut-up and used for political ammunition by Fox News, etc., you would find that in many respects, Wright speaks the truth—it’s politically inconvenient for Obama—but nonetheless, Wright is right.
Furthermore, i don’t understand your aversion to Obama having support from several Islamic groups…or do you simply follow the “All Muslims are Terrorists” mantra?
As for Corsi’s book—i’ll say this again—that it was published is a abominable misapplication of ink and paper, not to mention a denigration of the written word. Here is a man who makes his living deliberately sabotaging others’ careers, whether using facts, creative twisting of facts, or outright lies. Whatever you think of his victims is irrelevant (i, for one, didn’t care much for John Kerry)—Corsi is a contemptible horror of a human being.
Slinkiecat:
You outlined a number of Obama’s positions that are common among liberas, but gave no evidence that DAVIS corrupted him. According to Kincaid’s expert on Davis, “there is no evidence that he instructed Barack Obama in communist ideology.” Obama’s book mentions only racial discussions.
Once again: What evidence do you have that Davis corrupted Obama?
Thanks!
Dear Mr. Slinkiecat, Generally I don’t respond to a person too cowardly to use his/her real name. (By the way, am I a friend or relative? Am I a child? Thus, I expect to be addressed as either Dr. Sullivan (Ph.D., Columbia University, 1984) or Major Sullivan (USMC Reserve, 1964-93). More to the point: 1)if Obama were a Marxist and he became president, he couldn’t institute anything much by himself. He could ask Congress to pass the bills he requested. He could sign them into law only if they passed Congress. But if such laws violated the Constitution, the Supreme Court could rule them unconstitutional. Given the strong protection of property rights under the Constitution, Marxist legislation would never becomed legal. True, the Constitution could be amended. But is it even vaguely likely that 38 state legistatures would approve the transformation of the American economy in that way? And if they did, that woudl be the will of the American people - as highly unlikely as that would be. 2) But Obama is hardly a Marxist. You think he supports the dictatorship of the proletariat? You think he believes that the US should be a workers’ state that controls the means of production? Are you insane? He certainly isn’t. Besides, have you ever read the final paragraph of the Communist Manifesto? If enacting those programs makes you a Communist, then Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrwo Wilson, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan were Communists? You don’t believe that, look at what Marx wrote. My point is that: a) much of Marxism has been adopted by successive adminstrations since 1900; b) Marxism split between Social Democracy and Communism in the late 19th century. (Ever heard about Eduard Bernstein? I very much doubt it) 3) Were did you get the idea that Wright is under Moslem influence? You may not like his type of Christianity (as a Roman Catholic, I am obliged to consider his ideas heretical)but, as I mentioned, one can’t mix oil and water. It’s simply impossible to be a Moslem and a Christian. 4) Yes, Obama has stated that if Moslems came under attack for their religion, he would defend them. So would I. But that also would be true if the victims of religious discrimination were Jews, Hindus or any other religion. That’s the American way. 4) Trinity United Christian Church is not monolithic. (You certainly can’t accurately describe a church as “they” and I don’t just mean your grammar is faulty. Certainly you have little or no idea what all of its members think or believe. How could you? (Do you live in Chicago? Have you ever talked to those people?) As a Catholic, I am obliged to attend my parish church every Sunday. Do you think that I agree with everything the priests in my parish say? I don’t. But I have a moral obligation to go to Mass and to listen to and consider what they say. That’s what being a Catholic means. I suspect that is true for the members of other Christian churches. I imagine that was true for Obama, too. In any case, neither you nor I know what is in his heart. Nor is that any of our business. After all, that’s what separation of church and state means. Or don’t you accept the First Amendment? 5) I am opposed to abortion. But for you to state that most Christians believe in the sanctity of life - I assume you mean in regard to abortion - than you are ignorant of what survey after survey reveals abut Christians in the US. It may be hypocritical of them - as a Catholic I must consider it a sin - but about 70% have consistently supported Roe vs. Wade. What people claim to believe and what they actually do are two very different things.6) Obama is hardly too young not to have been aware of the evils of Communism. He was certainly old enough to remember what happened in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge, the plight of the “Boat People,” the Mariel boatlift, the murderous Communist regime in Ethiopia under Mengistu, the Soviet invasion of and genocidal campaign in Afghanistan, Brezhnev’s oppression of the Russian Jews, Moscow’s support for the Arab attempt to annihilate Israel in the Yom Kippur War, Tiananmen Square, the attempts to smash Solidarity in Poland, John Paul’s repeated denunciations of the abomination of Communism, the attempted repressions of the Eastern European revolutions in 1988-89, the Soviet massacres in Tblisi and the Baltic Republics. (You really don’t know much history, do you?) 7) Obama has no clue what to do about Russia? Does Bush, his “Russian expert” Secretary of State or McCain, who claims he has been in touch with Saakashvili for years? Evidence of Russian intentions toward Georgia have been obvious for the past six months. We have over 100 US military advisers in Georgia. Do you think that they didn’t report what was going on to Washington? And isn’t it the responsibility of the president to deal with foreign crises? What did Bush do when he was literally sitting next to Putin in Beijing last week while the Russians were already on the move? And all you can do is blame Obama? You are truly irrational. 8) Corsi certainly DID lie about Kerry. His supporters DID disprove Corsi’s lies about Kerry’s heroic performance in Vietnam. T. Boone Pickens certainly DID renege on his promise to pay them $1 million for exposing those lies. I was in Vietnam from June 1968 to June 1969 - admittedly far to the north in Quang Nam province - and I know a thing or two about what went down. You don’t get a Silver Star or three Purple Hearts without deserving them. How do I know? Because I have a Silver Star, too and a Purple Heart. They aren’t given out with the C-rations. Kerry earned them, as even the men Corsi interviewed agreed. Corsi edited out any of their remarks favorable to Kerry. 9) What gives you the impression I think the American people are dumb? Quite the contrary. I expect them to elect Obama in November because I think the majority of Americans are quite smart. I don’t know about you, however. 10) By the way, what about your military service? Ever heard a shot fired in anger? Ever sacrificed anything for your country? I very much doubt it. From what you write, you are a slimy blowhard and, as Dr. Johnson put it, a scoundrel hiding behind his supposed patriotism.
cowboyup6,
I understand your opposition to Sen. Obama, but I wish you would stick to provable facts including citing your sources for some of the rumors you repeat. In trying to defeat Sen. Obama canards, innuendoes, and prevarication will do more harm than good.
Obama was registered as a Muslim in both schools, one public and the other Catholic, that he attended in Indonesia since he was the son of a Muslim. The public school was not a Madrasah as some claim but it was predominantly composed of Muslim students due to the demographics of Indonesia. Also, like many people, Obama came to the Lord in midlife. Perhaps you doubt that’s possible but as a fundamentalist evangelical I’ve seen it often, including with myself.
As for an alias, he did use the name Barry in college as a nickname, just as I don’t use my Spanish name Roberto but go by Bob. I don’t think I’m involved in a conspiracy because I do that. As for the last name Soreto, that‘s simply a false rumor going around the internet, just like the false rumor that Obama doesn’t qualify as a natural born citizen.
As for Obama’s political stripes, it’s no secret that he’s one of the farthest left in the Senate. It’s also true that Obama had relationships with far let individuals and groups such as his mother and father who were both socialists, Frank Marshall Davis, Prof. Rashid Khalidi, William Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Saul Alinsky, Rev. Wright, his wife a socialist attorney, Mike Kruglic, ACORN, and the Marxist New Party of Chicago.
But then as we all know associations don’t matter, they’re coincidences, and each one is merely an isolated situation. We also all know that character doesn’t count and everything depends on the definition of is.
Yet despite the facts that Obama’s associations are suspect at best, that he’s inexperienced with not much of a track record, that he prefers not to deal with specifics but prefers terms like change and hope which can relate to anything, that he has a strange understanding of the Constitution despite being a “professor” of constitutional law, he will become the next president. First, people are rightly disappointed in Bush and the Republicans, particularly since the Republican Party betrayed its core principles when it traded its 1994 Contract With America for a contract on America and turned the party over to the neoconservatives. Then there is the economy over which McCain had no input but will be blamed by those who have little understanding of how our economy works. Then there is the fact that Sen. McCain simply doesn’t have the charisma that Sen. Obama has and as we all know looks and charisma is far more important than experience.
So get ready for a socialist welfare nanny state under Obama, Pelosi, and Reid that will go for an appeasement minded isolationist policy with open borders. And by the way, if you live in the East, buy a prayer rug and learn the direction of Mecca. If you live in the West, learn Spanish. The Balkanized land that once was a democratic Republic under Constitutional Law before Bush and Clinton will become an Aztlan Caliphate.
Brian R. Sullivan, with the SCOTUS Kelo Decision do you really believe that we have property rights in the US anymore? And name any other of the Bill of Rights that’s still intact despite the recent Heller SCOTUS Decision which even DC is trying to thwart save the Third even.
As for Sen. Obama’s liberal/socialist agenda, please remember that he’ll have the help of Pelosi and Reid and a Democratic controlled House and Senate. Also with the prospect of Obama naming 2 to 3 supreme Court justices we might well wind up with a very left leaning supreme Court.
By the way, as for your “obligation” to attend Parish Mass every week, would you attend it where the priest was a known pedophile? If so I’d doubt your Christianity even if you claim you’re a Catholic.
Liberalism is so close to communism the Democrats might as well come clean and admit that they want a nanny state with government redistributing wealth so there is no incentive to excell at any job or investment.
We are all known and judged by the company we keep, so if you lie with dogs you will have fleas.
If the voters in this country don’t come to their senses before election day and reject Senator Obama, we will have a disastrous situation of a triumverate in our government, completely ruled by liberals/socialists/Marxists, and even having a veto-proof majority in Congress. Gone would be any hope of Constitutionalist justices on the Supreme Court as well as on lesser federal benches, and more of our Constitutional rights will be wiped out as liberal judges misuse their position to legislate.
The main danger of a neophyte president is that he is putty in the hands of nefarious financiers who wish our country ill, of powerful lobbyists controlling many long-seated Senators, and of foreign leaders who will use his weakness and fear of standing up for the USA instead of the world courts.
Dear Mr. Benitez, 1) Property rights are extremely secure in the US. True, they are more secure for the wealthy who can afford the best lawyers to defend their rights in that regard. But even for those in the middle of the economic ladder and -insofar as they own any property - those at the bottom, their rights remain more secure in our country than anywhere else on earth. The proof? First of all, consider why most of the tens of millions of immigrants to the US have come over recent decades: the chance to improve their economic situation, to acquire property and to have such possession protected and defended by law. The waiting lists for more legal immigrants counts in the millions because of such property rights in the US. Second, consider the balance between public and private property holdings in the US. The ratio in America is the highest in the world in favor of private holdings. Third, why do so many foreigners hold US bonds? Because they are a secure investment. Unlike many other countries, the US has never repudiated public debt. That holds true not only for American citizen bond-holders but for non-citizens.Foreigners know that the US is bound to defend their ownership of US Treasury issues, if only to ensure we can go on borrowing money. That’s also why so many hundreds of thousands of foreigners own American real estate, own homes here, keep their money in US banks and invest in American stocks and corporate bonds. That includes not only foreign rich but many millions of middle-class foreigners. You dont’ believe that? Then investigate the holdings of Norwegian pension funds - just as one example. Fourth, what other country has so many people imprisoned for robbery, theft, forgery and fraud? The US also has the highest percentage of population incarcerated for such crimes against property. Unlike klepto-states like Nigeria, Pakistan or Indonesia, the US also has a high rate of conviction of public officials for stealing the people’s money. Remember the fate of Randy Cunningham, Bob Ney, and the likely fate of Ted Stevens and Tom Delay. They stole public property and have either paid or will pay very severely. Have you ever read or heard of ANY British member of parliament or French member of their national assembly imprisoned for such crimes? (Or, for that matter, for securities fraud, inside trading or stock manipulation. Study the careers of the British subject, Robert Maxwell, or the Canadian Conrad Black for just two example of the great difference between property rights in the US and elsewhere.) Yes, property rights are far more safe in the US than anywhere else on the planet. (By the way, what have YOU done about your opposition to Kay SCOTUS? I doubt anything except whining about it. But you do have many legal ways to challenge that decision under our Constitution. Have you exercised any of them?) 2)As for pedophile priests, they are grave sinners whose crimes cry out to God for divine punishment. Remember what Jesus said about what happens to those who corrupt innocent children. But I sense a anti-Catholic bias in your question. Do you think that Catholic priests are more guilty of pedophilia than ministers, rabbis or imams? Accurate figures are difficult to collect about such crimes. But every indication is that such heinous offenses are just as common in other countries and among non-Catholic clergy. But your snide question makes clear that you don’t know much about Catholic theology or Canon Law. Catholics are obliged to attend their parish church, regardless of their opinion or knowledge about the parish priests. That is because of Catholic doctrine that the personal morality of a priest does not affect his administration of the sacraments. A priest who has murdered someone in secret can still celebrate the Eucharist in a valid way. Those Catholics who receive the host from such a man, however evil he may be, do indeep receive the body and blood of the Son of God. A pastor who has robbed from his parish can still hear confessions - unless and until forbidden to do so by his bishop - and serve as the intermediary with God for absolution. A priest who molests little boys or girls can nonetheless perform a valid baptism. Of course, such men are both vile sinners and abhorrent criminals. They deserve punishment in this world and - if unrepentant - in perpetual hellfire. But you don’t seem to realize the difference between the US legal system and Canon Law. They operate along completely separate lines, as laid down in the Constitution. So, yes, I follow the teachings of the Catholic Church and accept its doctrine on the sacramental power of properly ordained priests. You may not agree this is a proper from of religious practise. That’s your right. But my observance of my religion is absolutely none of your business. 3) As to which of the Bill of Rights are still effective: all of them. That doesn’t mean that such amendments are always enforced. Thomas Jefferson warned about the necessity for eternal vigilance to protect our freedoms. One can’t take them for granted. We must fight to keep them. But any citizen has the right to raise such issues in our legal system and pursue them all the way to the Supreme Court. Individual citizens or groups of same can take political action in the voting booth, by petitioning their Congressional representatives, by public demonstrations, by forming new political parties to address such concerns. All of those freedoms to exercise God-given rights are laid down in the Bill of Rights and remain in force. Consider the political actions of (the racist) David Duke,(the Communist) Angela Davis, (the nut case) Lyndon Larouche as well as much better people like Ross Perot, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Shirley Chisolm, Ron Paul, Bernie Saunders, James Stockdale, Ralph Nader, Bill Blair, Mike Huckabee and all the millions of Americans who worked as volunteers for them, raised money for them, voted for them, just to name a few recent examples. Furthermore, your own words belie your statements in these regards. If you didn’t believe your First Amendment rights were protected, you wouldn’t be blogging as you do. 4) Obama’s liberal/socialist agenda? To even raise that bizarre question reveals your ignorance. Liberalism and Socialism are antithetical. The basis of Liberalism is freedom (“libertas”) from state control of the economy and from state interference in one’s individual and group rights. The basis of Socialism is state control over or interference in the economy. Thus, ever since the enactment of the Interstate Commerce Act way back in the 19th century, the US has been operating under a form of Socialism. The Federal Reserve, the various anti-trust acts, the income tax, the Social Security System, the FDIC, Medicare and Medicaid, protection of collective bargaining, the various Federal Housing Acts, the Taft-Hartley Act, Food Stamps, unemployment insurance, Workman’s Compensation, the bail-out of Chrysler, the creation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and recent intervention in the credit and mortgage systems (which President Bush signed into law) are ALL examples of Socialism. But that is quite diferent from Communism. While very few politicans are willing to acknowledge it, the US has long been a Social Democracy, with its foundations laid under the administrations of Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft and Woodrow Wilson. (You sure don’t know much about economics or economic history, do you?)
5) Finally, how DARE you state that I only “claim” to be a Catholic? What do you know about the state of my soul? What do you know about how I practise my religion? You have revealed yourself to be an ignorant swine, perhaps even like one of those Jesus drove over a cliff into the sea. I don’t know anything about your own religious beliefs and wouldn’t be so presumptuous to question them. Those are entirely a private affair between you and God. But if, as you state, you are devoted to the Bill of Rights, then practise what you preach in that regard.
Why are we even surprised to find that Obama has many radical freindships and beliefs he’s hiding so strongly; he is nothing but a “media creation”, and this is the only reason he won the Democrat primary. American voters are notoriously uninformed and with very short attention span so most rely on TV ads that are few seconds long to form their opinions of individual candidates. I think that ADS that portray the real Obama should be shown often on TV and other media to help us understand who the “real” Obama is.
he’s is the in the category of one of the worse persons of the year. Too bad that the world can’t see that.
We need to destroy Obama and it pisses me off that he is Black becaue he causes more racial problems. Does he even realize that he is on a hit list with 800 million men from the East?
All of the Illuminati’s are and oh he is right in there. It’s too bad as I wanted him to be the right person to make change. BUT not the kind of change he has in mind. STOP OBAMA NOW
Mr. Sullivan—
Based on your above postings, you are indeed well versed and well read, well-learned, and smart. Not very wise, though, beyond what may generally consititute “common sense”.
It is good you served in the US military. Especially at a time when communism was such an enormous threat to freedom-loving peoples the world over, I appreciate and am grateful for your service to freedom.
1. You yourself injected your Catholicism into the discourse. Once admitted by you, it cannot reasonably be expected by you to remain out of bounds. People outside any religious group can identify a hypocrite. When a religion is one of the staunchest defenders of life, how simple to identify a member of that religion as a hypocrite when that member decides to defend and support a politician who is for killing even already-born babies. Even the most casual observer will immediately wonder about your “Catholisicm”, for we are known by our fruits. Not all Americans have their eyes and minds closed.
2) Today’s liberals do not practice the liberalism you defined, which is Classic Liberalism. And, given your knowledgeable writings above, you know that. Therefore, you argue with malicious pretense. Or, maybe your just not as smart as I presume. Given your support of Obama, you lack honor when making this argument. On the other hand, Mr. Benitez is correct, and you know that, as well. You correctly stated that Obama cannot change our government by himself. Mr. Benitez knows this, also, and smartly pointed out that, should Obama be elected, Congress will likely become nearly as liberal as he (merely by numbers, nevermind attitude) and that he would also likely name 2-3 Supreme Court judges. Mr. Benitez can see the writing on the wall, just as so many other Americans can, that, should he be elected, Obama would have the US move towards socialism in a far more malignant way than we have already exerienced. You wrote that socialism is based on government control of the economy. That’s only partly true, especially as exercised today, or anticipated by liberals today. Mr. Benitiez is right: liberals most certainly want to control all aspects of our society. Evidence? a) courts making law in California and Massachusetts with regard to marriage despite exisiting laws’ prohibitions and no action from the states’ true lawmakers. b) courts making law with regard to property rights despite specific Consititutional prohibitions. c) teachers everywhere making (de facto)law with regard to public education. d) private organizations in concert with courts making (de facto) law with regard to religion in the public arena everywhere. Plainly, the bill of Rights and the rest of the Constitution itself, is under attack by liberals with a mindset like Obama. Again, many Americans are aware of this truth, for our eyes and our minds are not closed.
I’d like to write more, but my wife and I are off to dinner at a friend’s house. I believe you should be able to recognize that your support of Obama is based on a series of ruses. many people on this website cansee that, and we hope that your eyes and mind will also soon be open to the maliciousness that is the Democrat party’s intent.
Brian R said….“You outlined a number of Obama’s positions that are common among liberas, but gave no evidence that DAVIS corrupted him”
Anybody mentored as a child by a Communist has been corrupted. But, as a Communist thinks…their ideology is not corrupting. How about you?
“i suppose you believe that FDR was a Marxist as well?”
Yes…what do you think the “Great Society” was patterned after
Blackhat said….“In case you didn’t get the memo, a long time has passed since 1954. i’m pleased to inform you that Joe McCarthy is dead, as is communism itself, for all intents and purposes. Moreover, this country was never in any kind of peril of being ‘taken over’ by communists—the Red Scares were ruses concocted in order to whip people like you into a state of fear, and subjection to the government.
Blackhat are you really that naive? Do you have such a pathetic grasp of history that you really believe that statement? The Communist party is alive and well in The United States. Google it. California just passed a bill stating that teachers can no longer be fired for teaching Communism. California’s Maxine Waters just spoke outloud and said she was for “Nationalizing” The oil Companies. Yoo hahhh Hugo Chavez comes to California. Please don’t tell me you are that blind. OsamaObama already has plans in place to have the largest civil defense National Police force in the World. He spoke about it in one of his speeches. The USA brownshirts oh boy thats cool. The Dem blindness is the most devastating conundrum I have ever seen. They have foisted on us, one the most dangerous men I ever listened to. His words are colorful and inspiring. His intentions, unspoken, between the lines are terrifying. Frank Davis most certainly had a huge affect on this man Barack Hussein Obama. If he is elected, hold on to your hats folks, we are in for a ride. It just may be our last.
After watching the Brokeback Showdown yesterday, I think most American voters will see that Obama will expose himself as the inept politician he is, and the statesman John McCain will easily defeat him in November.
Obama is like a freshman in high school without his teleprompter and carefully worded speeches, which themselves are empty phrases coopted from other speakers or even popular songs. He is so devoid of a lifetime of relevant experience, while McCain has such a rich history and proven dedication to this country for several decades.
Some of us get it, and others remain blinded by a quest for political dominance, to the point where they will bring forth a self-proclaimed leader who hasn’t ever led anything, all in the name of “change” where that could mean destroying all that is great about this country.
You Democrats should be happy with your control of both houses of Congress and forget about turning our country into a nightmare of communist ideology. See if you can deal with San Fran Nan and her greedy control of our national energy policy just because she has invested so heavily in T. Boone Pickens’ Clean Energy corporation that she wants to deny the rest of us access to our own oil. Maybe she can afford a million-dollar windmill to power her next plug-in car, but the rest of us have to have gasoline for at least the next 20 years.
Power corrupts, and absolute power (all three branches of government) corrupts absolutely.
If you want Obama, beware of the consequences. Even Hillary, with all her corruption, is less dangerous for this country.
Dear Mr. JAWoods, Once again, I am confronted by someone too cowardly to identify himself by his real name. What, exactly, are you afraid of? Thus, before I address your semi-literate, presumptuous and ignorant opinions - which I will enumerate below - I find myself in contempt of someone hiding behind a pseudonym. As for your nonsensical statements: 1) I don’t mind if anyone discusses my personal religious beliefs after I have laid them out. Nor am I offended by criticism of the Catholic Church. What offends me is ignorance in regard to same. I repeat, I don’t “claim” to be a Catholic, I am one. According to Catholic teaching, once baptised into the Church, one remains a member forever, in this world and the next. I was baptised a Catholic. Even if one becomes a monstrous sinner or adopts atheism or converts to another religion, Church doctrine states that such a person remains a Catholic. You may not consider that logical or morally correct. That is certainly your right. But the use of “claim” in my regard is both personally offensive and theological incorrect. THAT is what I found obnoxious about Mr. Benitez’ comment. You indicate that one cannot be a good Catholic yet also offer political support for a politician who supports abortion rights. That is simply incorrect, as both the papacy and the American Catholic hierarchy have made quite clear. What the Church authorities have stated is that one cannot in good conscience vote for such a person if their advocacy of abortion is their main position or forms the core of their position. At the same time, the Church also teaches that one must obey the laws of one’s country, respect the views of the majority in a democracy, be a good citizen under a just government and respect the honest opinions of members of other religions. Many American Catholics ignored Pope John Paul’s unequivocal condemnation of the war in Iraq. Yet the Church never instructed American Catholics not to vote for George Bush in 2004. Nor has or will the Church make a similar statement in regard to Obama. What it teaches is that one has the moral obligation to consider the totality of a candidate’s views, then choose the person who comes closest to meeting the Catholic concept of morality. In that regard, I prefer Obama over McCain by a wide margin. Obama has repeatedly made clear his personal objection to abortion. But he also supports a woman’s right to choose. That, by the way, under Roe vs. Wade, is the law of our land. If abortion were to be made illegal in the US or even in my state, I would support such a ruling with heart-felt sincerity. To make this point more clear, as I’ve indicated before, in the eyes of the Church both McCain and Obama are heretics. Both of them advocate artificial birth control, a grave sin according to Catholic teaching. (Admittedly, as is obvious from the average size of American Catholic families, the great majority ignoe that teaching and practise artifical birth control anyway - probably in the range of 85-90%)Once, during the Counter Reformation, Catholics were enjoined to engage in armed warfare against Protestants. That resulted in the horror of the Thirty Years War. I find it shocking that my Church ignored the teachings of Jesus in that regard. I am grateful that I did not live in that time. I am even more grateful that I live in a time where I can live under a free government that enforces the separation of church/synagogue/mosque/temple and state. As for your statement about Obama’s support for “killing already-born babies,” are you referring to partial birth abortion? If so, I suggest you read what Obama has stated and written about such matters. He has hardly taken the stand you believe he has.
2) You state that what you call “Classical Liberalism” is not the same as contemporary liberalism. Well, no ideology that has existed for over 300 years, from the time of John Locke, remains st
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The arrogant ass doesn’t believe he has to deny anything. He is so sure of himself he doesn’t believe the American people are smart enough to see through the false image he is portraying. The masses are looking for change and he is promising change. It’s strange how a civilization spiraling into the abyss of darkness seem to welcome it. How they are blind to the horrors of the darkness. They often bite the hand that is extended to save them. I still believe there are more good people than bad. The good will reach deep into their roots and vote for McCain.