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Armando Valladares, Castro’s political prisoner for 22 years, said his Catholic faith was strengthened behind bars by hearing young Catholics shouting “Viva Cristo Rey,” for “Long Live Christ the King,” and “down with communism!” as they faced the firing squad. It has been his hope that Cuba would one day be free of communism. But he is far less hopeful now that Pope Francis has taken measures that he says “objectively favor the political and ecclesiastical left in Latin America” and could undermine the “Christian future of the Americas.”

Meanwhile, Marxist writer Richard Greeman has written an extraordinary article, “Catholicism: The New Communism?,” arguing that “progressive forces” have  “captured” the Vatican, and that Francis is conducting a “purge” of traditional elements, such as those loyal to anti-communist Pope John Paul II.

Valladares, author of Against All Hope: A Memoir of Life in Castro’s Gulag, was the United States Ambassador to the U.N. Human Rights Commission under the Reagan and Bush administrations. He writes in a recent column that Francis was the “most eminent architect and mediator” of the Obama administration deal with Cuba that will “now provide the repressive apparatus of the Cuban regime with rivers of money and favorable publicity.”

He goes on, “We are witnessing one of the greatest examples of media sleights-of-hand in history: From a well-deserved image of aggressor, a regime which for decades spearheaded bloody revolutions in Latin America and Africa and continues to spread its tentacles in the three Americas, has been craftily made to look like a victimized underdog.”

He says the responsibility lies with the unexpected rise of a Francis-Obama “axis” in foreign affairs that benefits Marxist governments throughout Latin America.

Valladares, who received the Citizen’s Presidential Medal from President Ronald Reagan, was sentenced to 30 years in prison in communist Cuba in 1960 for being philosophically and religiously opposed to communism. He was tortured and kept in isolation for refusing to be “re-educated.” He was released after 22 years in prison, in 1982, when international pressure was brought to bear on the regime.

Valladares says it’s not just the Cuba betrayal that concerns him. He notes that Francis overturned the suspension of Nicaraguan priest Miguel D’Escoto Brockmann, a former communist Sandinista foreign minister and a leading pro-Castro figure in liberation theology.

Despite his credentials as a political prisoner turned human rights activist and powerful voice for freedom, his column on the Obama-Francis “axis” has received very little attention. An associate says it seems “too politically incorrect,” an apparent reference to the fact that Francis is a global media star for identifying with the poor, and that liberals and conservatives alike are reluctant to criticize him.

Valladares, however, says the pope has gone far beyond taking up the cause of poor people. His column notes that Francis personally attended something called the World Meeting of Popular Movements last October in Rome. “It gathered 100 revolutionary world leaders, including well-known Latin American professional agitators,” Valladares points out. “The meeting turned out to be a kind of marketing ‘beatification’ of these Marxist-inspired revolutionary figures.”

One of the participants in the Vatican event was Evo Morales, the Marxist President of Bolivia who dedicated his election victory last year to Cuba’s Fidel Castro and the late Venezuelan Marxist ruler, Hugo Chávez.

The Vatican’s own description of the meeting referred to changing “an economy of exclusion” and “an idolatrous system of money.” The statement went on, “Together we want to discuss the structural causes of so much inequality (inequidad) which robs us of work (labor), housing (domus) and land (terra), which generates violence and destroys nature. We also want to face the challenge Francis himself sets puts [sic] to us with courage and intelligence: to seek radical proposals to resolve the problems of the poor.”

Valladares isn’t the only one to notice the “radical” or leftward drift of the papacy. Greeman’s article wondering if Catholicism is the “new communism” appears in New Politics, a socialist magazine “committed to the advancement of the peace and anti-intervention movements” and which “stands in opposition to all forms of imperialism…”

New Politics has strong links to the Democratic Socialists of America, a group that backed Barack Obama’s political career from the start. Its “sponsors” include Noam Chomsky, Frances Fox Piven, Michael Eric Dyson, Barbara Ehrenreich, Cornel West and the late communist historian Howard Zinn.

Greeman notes that the world’s Catholic Bishops have “explicitly pointed to capitalism as the basic cause of impending global catastrophe,” in the form of climate change, and have “called for a new economic order.” He was referring to a group of Catholic Bishops who met at the U.N. climate talks last December and blamed “the dominant global economic system, which is a human creation,” for global warming. They argued for “a new financial and economic order” and the phasing out of the use of fossil fuels.

Greeman says the Bishops’ attack on capitalism was generally ignored, even on the left, and he understands why. There have been so many “rapid changes” coming out of Rome “since the ascension to the Throne of Saint Peter” by Pope Francis that it is hard to keep up with them, he says.

Francis will issue a Vatican document, known as an encyclical, on climate change in June or July.

Greeman writes that these “radically anti-capitalist Catholic positions” have got him wondering whether Catholicism is “the new Communism,” Rome “the new Moscow,” and the church “the new Comintern.” The term “Comintern” refers to the Communist International, an association of national communist parties started by Lenin.

Growing up as a “red diaper baby” during the Cold War, Greeman writes, Catholicism was “synonymous with militant anti-Communism.” But changes that started coming years ago in the church have been accelerating under Francis, he writes. He attributes some of this “change” to Francis, who is from Buenos Aires, Argentina, and a Jesuit, which is a “progressive” religious order whose “solid organization and discipline” and “attempts to take over the Church” go back centuries.

Greeman refers to the Catholic or “universal” Church as “the only actually existing organized world-party,” whose “vast wealth and influence are now in Francis’ hands.” He writes about “the capture” of the church by “progressive forces,” a development which opens up “huge possibilities for human liberation and perhaps a chance for the planet to avoid climate catastrophe.” He believes Francis “and his allies” are now conducting a “purge of the apparatus” in the Vatican.

Writing in Links, an international socialist journal, Canadian activist Judith Marshall discusses meeting the pope during the World Meeting of Popular Movements and witnessing his presentation to the group. “Pope Francis’ forthright statements on the social ministry of the church hearken back to the 1960s and 1970s when liberation theology was such a dynamic force in promoting struggles for social justice, particularly in Latin America,” she wrote. “The symbolism of a World Meeting of Popular Movements which brought a multitude of the poor right into [the] heart of the Vatican has not been lost on those looking for a resurgence of liberation theology.”

Liberation theology was manufactured by the old KGB to dupe Christians into supporting Marxism.

She also insisted that Francis “has arguably made the Papacy the most radical and consistent voice in pointing to the profanity of global inequality and exclusion. He has also repeatedly named the inordinate power of multinational corporations and finance capital as key factors in reproducing global poverty and destruction of the planet.”

She says Francis met with several Marxist activists from Latin America and even met privately with President Morales of Bolivia who “stressed how Mother Earth had become ill from capitalism,” and that “under the prevailing global economy, the planet would actually do better without humans—but humans need the planet.”

In a previous meeting Morales told the pope, “For me, you are brother Francis.” The pope responded, “As it should be, as it should be.”



Comments

  • Juan Habanero Cubano

    Mr. Kincaid, congratulations for your lucid, courageous and “politically incorrect” article!

  • AmericasAlert

    Americas Alert @AmericasAlert
    Relevant article: Catholic Church Captured by “Progressive Forces”, by Cliff Kincaid, Accuracy In Media http://disq.us/8mjt3d

  • José Antonio Ureta

    Congratulations to Cliff Kincaid and to Ambassador Valladares for their courageous stand ! Pope Francis’ intellectual references are Fr Lucio Gera & Fr Rafael Tello, the representatives of the Argentinian branch of Liberation Theology. The only difference with the other LT branches is that theiir “theology of the people” affirms that the main revolutionary force is not the working class, nor the radical leftwing groups, but the “praxis” of the Latin American mixigenated population in opposition to the Western, bourgeois and “colonial” values. A sort of radical Peronism with holy water and the worship of the Pachamama (Mother Earth).

  • stlouisix

    Conservative Catholics Angry as Pope Plans to Issue Encyclical on Climate Change
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/12/29/conservative-catholics-angry-as-pope-plans-to-issue-encyclical-on-climate-change/

    The Bergoglio papacy is an unmitigated disaster in that we have have a
    perfect storm of Marxists in the highest positions of influence in the world. There is not a Catholic worth his salt that recognizes the legitimacy of the non-Catholic rants of Bergoglio as speaking for the Church. Such Catholics care about going to Heaven instead of hell.

    A New And Intrusive Ecclesiastical Communism As Agenda 21 Enabling A Godless New World Order
    http://www.personal.psu.edu/glm7/m1335.htm

    http://traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/j047ht_ChurchCom.html

    A New and Intrusive Ecclesiastical Communism

    Anne Erickson

    With each passing day it becomes more obvious that we are facing battles on both the spiritual and secular fronts. We are well aware of the
    dangers and treacheries being perpetrated against the Catholic Church
    worldwide, with the most egregious offenses coming from within her. But, in order to understand the magnitude of this crisis, we should consider other treacheries taking place with Rome’s knowledge and consent.

    Here are three other attempts of the Revolution to achieve total
    domination of the temporal world and the strategic progress it has made.

    Communism & global sustainability

    Cardinal Reinhard Marx, Archbishop of Munich and Freising, is President
    of COMECE, the Commission of the Bishops Conference of the European
    Community, linked with other important groups.

    In October 2008, Card. Marx launched the book Das Kapital: A Plea for Man, named after the work by Karl Marx Das Kapital against Capitalism. Card. Marx sustains that the current worldwide financial crisis requires a fundamental social debate and raises questions about the capacity of contemporary economies to ensure the welfare of the world.

    With Card. Marx the Church enters an open campaign against Capitalism

    COMECE intends to partner with non-Catholics for a greater European
    cohesion. (2) It says it is important to implement demographic changes
    to ensure a just welfare system and the development of a set of conditions for an equal and sustainable quality of life – in other words egalitarianism.

    This commission is meant to develop the framework for a green economy in the context of sustainable development. A document by Card. Marx (3) indicates this global concept and suggests that the world needs to change both production and consumption of material goods, which will demand a distinction between that which is essential vs. that which is superfluous. Marx also suggests a global sustainable agricultural system achieved through efficient land tenure. COMECE has published a five-page position paper on ‘The Role of Church Actors in the European Cohesion Policy’ (here).

    The positions of COMECE include its support of upgrading the UN
    Environmental Programme (UNEP) to a ‘World Environmental Organization’
    as it proposed in 2001.

    Agenda 21

    COMECE further supports and promotes Agenda 21, a non-binding and
    voluntarily plan of the United Nations related to sustainable development. It was a core work produced from the first UN Conference on Environment and Development held in Rio de Janeiro in 1992. Agenda 21 is a comprehensive blueprint of action to be adopted globally, nationally, and locally by organizations of the UN, governments, and major groups in every area of human activity. The “21” in Agenda 21 refers to 21st century. The blueprint has been affirmed and modified at subsequent UN conferences. (4)

    A UN plan to infiltrate every institution of society. It is endorsed by the Church

    When we read the table of contents of Agenda 21, we realize how much worldwide control of every aspect of each individual’s life and behavior will be affected. Please note that in addition to the religious leaders’ grasping every opportunity to define their roles in this plan, there is also a separate, specific strategy to use women and youth to assist in advancement of this Agenda. No doubt the goal is to further empower women to foster Feminism and to influence youth further alienating them from the family structure and its authority.

    In the United States, some Tea Party activists view Agenda 21 as a
    conspiracy by the United Nations to deprive individuals of property
    rights. Several state and local governments have passed motions and legislation opposing Agenda 21. Nationally, the Republican National Committee drafted a resolution in 2012 opposing Agenda 21, calling it “a
    comprehensive plan of extreme environmentalism, social engineering and
    global political control”.

    How anyone could not be offended by the fact that Roman Catholic leaders are proud to play a role in this diabolical plan to inflict this utopia is beyond astonishing. How aptly and tragically the maxim applies here, Where the Catholic Church goes, so goes the world!

    1. The outlining [lineamenta] of this plan, Synod of Bishops,
    XIII Ordinary Assembly, ‘The New Evangelization for the Transmission of
    the Christian Faith’ can be found on the official Vatican website
    here

    2. Vatican Insider website
    (http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/world-news/detail/articolo/europa-europe-cristiani-christians-cristianos-16637/)

    3. COMECE is working toward a plan that is best described in a document
    published by Cardinal Marx, ‘Our Collective Responsibility for the
    Future of the World’, as part of The U.N. Conference on Sustainable
    Development (UNCSD) Rio +20. Full text of the Cardinal’s writings can be
    referenced
    here

    4. A pdf of the Agenda 21 document in its entirety can be found here.

    ——————————

    Judas USCCB Supports Comrade Obama’s Destruction Of America From Within By Unconscionably Supporting Pelosi’s Insane Energy Bill Built On Lies
    http://www.personal.psu.edu/glm7/m532.htm

    Marxists On Way To Controlling Us Helped By Duplicitous USCCB
    http://www.personal.psu.edu/glm7/m706.htm

    Corrupt USCCB Has Ties To Obama Puppet Master Soros
    http://www.personal.psu.edu/glm7/m713.htm

    USCCB Apostates Co-opt The Church To Enable The RED Green Goblin Pathological Lying Obamunists To Destroy The Country From Within
    http://www.personal.psu.edu/glm7/m965.htm

    ENOUGH With The FRAUD USCCB Going Out Of Its Way To Help Reelect An Antichrist After Helping To Elect Him – SCANDAL Of The Highest Order As USCCB President Dolan CELEBRATES Catholicism Of Heretical Apostate VP Biden – Nothing Like Not Being Satisfied With Providing A Forum For Grave Error Counter To Invariant Church Moral
    Teaching, But Also Applauding It
    http://www.personal.psu.edu/glm7/m1338.htm

    Beware Of The Ulterior Motives Of UN Agenda 21 Proponents Regarding Farmers Markets – The UN Agenda 21 Plan Of The Eco-Fascists To Herd Those Of Us, Whom They Deem Fit To Live, Into Cities So That We Might Be Better Controlled – Burn Down The Suburbs – A New And Intrusive Ecclesiastical Communism As Agenda 21 Enabling A Godless New World Order
    http://www.personal.psu.edu/glm7/m1335.htm

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  • AlexandreOwl Montes

    It makes me remember the famous mention of the ” smoke of Satan in the temple of God ” Pope Montini in his homily party of Saints Peter and Paul in June 1972 : “For some fissure the smoke of Satan has entered the temple of God . “

  • John Cunningham

    It’s even worse than that. Many Christian Churches themselves have been infiltrated by the Liberal onslaught. I believe a lot of that is the “if you can’t beat them join them” ideal. I think Churches believe that once they have them as participants, they can win them over with the truths of the Bible. I also believe the collective saving of ones soul is now taught unlike a few years a go of the individual. This hits very close to home because I have a son in the Ministry and we don’t get along.

  • Ted

    Well, Jesus seems to be the first significant Hippie, the first significant protestor, the first significant liberal, the first significant progressive … so … what the hell would you expect from true Catholic believers?

    Besides … the traditional definiton of ‘catholic’ is ‘universal’ … and, obviously, to become ‘universal’, one would seemingly have to be, by definition, ‘progressive’.

    Based on the teachings ot the Catholic Church … ALL Catholics, by extension, should be ‘liberals’, ‘progressives’, ‘Democrats’.

  • Ted

    What a nutcase comment.

    Obviously, you’re not a Catholic … and you’re probably a racist anti-Catholic … as it seems Kincaid is from time-to-time.

  • Marshall Goodman

    I wish I could disagree with you, Anne. But you state the obvious truth: “The Bergoglio papacy is an unmitigated disaster …” I call him [George] Soros’ pope. The international Marxists had to ship one in all the way from Argentina.

    If you’re interested further, an orthodox Catholic publication, New Oxford Review (http://www.newoxfordreview.org), has written a lot about this new pope. He seems to have ties to homosexual clergy, if not beyond, also. I’m waiting for the day when he tells the world, I’m gay but celibate! Don’t judge me. I fear it’s coming. Next he’ll start quoting Karl Marx about religion being the opiate of the masses.

    Kudos to Kincaid for his article. Very nice update, sir.

  • AndRebecca

    A racist anti-Catholic? What is that exactly?

  • AndRebecca

    A true misinterpretation of Christianity. You sound like a Unitarian.

  • AndRebecca

    The communists have been in the “liberal” churches for years. V.I. Lenin wrote about how to take over America through infiltrating the churches, schools, military, etc. He wasn’t the first with the idea. I’m sorry to hear about your son.

  • John Cunningham

    Very true and progressives started taking offensive of the wording of God in the Congress back in the 1880’s. Actually the progressive Leftist view isn’t there fault. Those with any vision at all ignored it all until like today, an epidemic.

  • AndRebecca

    We did have people sound the alarm, and the Communists in this country used it as part of their process. The Left has convinced people that they believe something other than what is out there for all to see in communist/socialist countries around the world or in their books. They’ve written millions of Leftist books over the years and say what they believe in, and for some reason most people can’t get their minds around it and actually think Leftism is a nice thing, and that it is so nice it works with Christianity.

  • Capnmikey

    Never has been much difference between Catholcism and Communism, you are forbidden to think for yourself. No women allowed!

  • John Cunningham

    Tell me about it! My Son is a Minister at a mega church. I am still paying for his school and will to the day I die. By the way, he hasn’t spoken to me in a year and a half.

  • AndRebecca

    It sounds like your son is a true leftist. He’s figured out how to make a living while ruining people’s lives and this country. What a shame.

  • John Cunningham

    Most of it is the influence of his Wife and her Mother. He was a lot like me when I was his age. 9/11 really opened my eyes. All I can do is pray for him and his Children and hope someday he realizes.

  • Ace

    I get it. Jesus was a “progressive” and so wanted totalitarian government, fiscal madness, enslavement of free people to government, hatred of Christianity, hostility to the productive, income redistribution, a permanent parasite class, poisonous race relations, the elimination of national borders, a lying media, mass immigration, dispossession of whites, and the suppression of free speech.

    Who knew?

  • Rusty Halo

    Jesus’ message on the Mount was about taking on the heart of a servant. He preached sell your treasure and follow Him. Sounds like socialism, right? However the BIG difference is that God gave us a free will to choose, communism does not. The state takes at the treat of imprisionment or point of the gun. Every “socialistic” government used force, threats, even fatal purges for those that dissent. Jesus tells of the rewards of making choices in His will and perils of making those against His Will and Glory

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Mega church preachers are afraid to preach the full counsel of God, because the church is in so much debt. Their tithers would flee! Dialectic process (marxism) has taken over the Sunday school classes to the point where if a true Christian balks at the apostasy, he is given the Saul Alinsky treatment and run out of the church. “Liberation theology” is founded on Karl Marx’s liberation from the father’s voice that rebukes and chastens. So it is no wonder that in liberation theology, the rebuke of a sodomite is called “hate.” Revelation 3:19 says : “As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten, be zealous therefore and repent.” Note the word LOVE, that is the Lord Jesus Christ speaking.

  • John Cunningham

    Or today’s Preacher is more dedicated to ones own course.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    Right. I don’t know how a preacher can read the Old Testament and not understand that a preacher is to fear God, and not man.

    Jude

    17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

    18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

    19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

  • John Cunningham

    Thank you! Right now I needed that.

  • Edward MacGuire

    The most successful countries in the world are social-democratic i.e. democracies with strong social safety nets. Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Canada, Australia, New Zealand for example all have much lower income disparity, lower crime rates, lower child poverty, lower infant and maternal mortality and longer lifespans than the United States. Denmark has very generous social benefits and the highest taxes in the world but is considered by its’ citizens as the best country in the world. It is also one of he best places for small business, more than half the businesses in Denmark have less than 50 employees. When you make comments about ‘socialistic’ governments like these using force, threats and purges you sound as if you are barking mad.

  • stringman

    If they’re so great, why don’t you go live there and find out for yourself. Why should ‘we the people’ have to destroy the greatest country ever, to please you?

  • stringman

    Sure! Progressives can destroy the Greatest Country Ever and go to confession on Sunday and be forgiven. Ain’t that nice.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    I barely touched on the subject. I stick with the King James Bible, because I know for a fact that they have watered down the gospel with all the new Bible versions. And that it was the King James Bible that brought great revival to this nation and the world. The Lord Jesus Christ has blessed me in that I am surrounded by Christian brothers, including my preacher, who recognize the apostasy going on in the church in this day and time. We encourage one another, which is also Bible. That has not always been the case for me, so I do know what it is like to stand alone with the Lord in a church that is neck deep in apostasy, having a thorough knowledge of marxist infiltration of the church myself.

    The Lord Jesus Christ is still the Kings of Kings and Lord of Lords. He is the sovereign God of the universe and completely, utterly, in charge. Many true Christians still abound, who support your stand on God’s Holy Word. I know sometimes it is hard to see when apostasy is on every street corner, when you are standing alone with the truth, and many are working against you.

    Don’t lose heart, after all the Apostle Paul said in 2 Timothy 4:16-17:

    “At my first answer no man stood with me, but all men forsook me: I pray God that it may not be laid to their charge.”

    “Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me; that by me the preaching
    might be fully known, and that all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion.”

    In 2 Timothy 4:7, Paul summed up having fought a good fight when he said: “I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:”

    Paul endured it all, and understood what it means to finish. It is to “have kept the faith.”

    May the Lord Bless you, sir.

  • John Cunningham

    Thank you so much! You restore my soul. You see I left Indiana because of Family issues. Haven’t spoken to my Son in a year and a half. I just called last week and left a message to call me. So far nothing. This is my Son the Minister Of God.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd
  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    The confessional is just one example of the apostasy of the Roman Catholic church. The Bible says there is only mediator between man and God, the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • Strac5

    Start a schism movement. Cut off American funds to the Catholic Church and see it wither until it gets its act together.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    I hear you. I have endured many sorrows – particularly with family – because of the poisoning of the minds done by liberalism. I could fill books with the sorrows. We are witnessing the Laodicean church age spoke of in Revelation chapter 3. The lukewarm church increased with goods, neither cold nor hot. The Lord says “because thou art lukewarm I will spue thee out of my mouth, ” in other words, the Lord’s presence isn’t even in these churches. I have went out and knocked on doors inviting people to church. I have handed out gospel tracts. I’ve tried to tell people about the latter days. Most of the people live in a daze of relativity, where facts don’t mean anything anymore. They have been conditioned like Pavlov dogs, to react to certain stimuli in a certain way.

    Yuri Bezmenov was dead-on 30 years ago. What he spoke of, is quite well advanced today.

    https://youtu.be/qlpODYhnPEo

  • stringman

    Now that’s progress! (Sarcasm)

  • John Cunningham

    I am saving this. I am at a true crossroads and my health is not good. That is why I reached out to my Son. Right now, God and I are not on speaking terms. I will get over it, always do. I am looking for a church here in Florida but, I am afraid of what I may find. Prayers would sure be appreciated.

  • AndRebecca

    Hopefully your son’s eyes will be opened.

  • AndRebecca

    Thank you for that.

  • John Cunningham

    It’s not him so much but, his Wife. She was very nice before they were married then after that, she was stand offish and rude. You can tell her ideas are Liberal and my Son seems to be unable to fight against her.

  • disqus_smWiOrvPtd

    I will most definitely pray for you, John.

  • John Cunningham

    Thank you!

  • Ignatius Myosurus

    Catholic economics are not Communist or socialist. They aren’t capitalist either. They are Distributist, and have been since Leo XIII’s encyclical Rerum Novarum.

    When it comes to economic philosophy, there is NO difference between Benedict XVI and Pope Francis.

    Many American Christians have been deceived by Satan, and have embraced Mammon Worship while pretending it was Christianity. That doesn’t make it so.

    You CANNOT serve God and Money. The Lord Jesus said it was IMPOSSIBLE, Stop trying.

    Your job is to carry your cross, not stuff your pockets.

  • Ignatius Myosurus

    Why would any Christian NOT condemn the destruction of God’s creation?

    The plagues in Revelation sound very much like effects of climate change, and their source is ANTICHRIST – which is evil that pretends to be of Christ.

    And of course, Revelation says God will destroy those who destroy the earth.

  • Ignatius Myosurus

    The Old Testament Law commanded that landowners allow the poor to come and take food from their fields. It also made lending money at interest illegal (which ALL Christians adhered to until about the 1700s). That was a Civil Law, written by the LORD.

    And yes, you may have free will to choose. But rich people who take advantage of the poor’s need and desperation are choosing SIN, and Jesus will ask them why they did that to HIM.

  • Ignatius Myosurus

    “We the People” is a statement of collectivity. It is the OPPOSITE of “Every man for himself.”

  • stringman

    What’s your point?

    We, the American people, have chosen our founding documents and our form of government. If you think it’s better somewhere else, you should go there. We’re not going to do it your way.

  • Ignatius Myosurus

    What’s your point? The Constitution says absolutely nothing about whether the economy should be capitalist, socialist, or mixed. And most of “the people” seem to favor a mixed economy, which is the sort of economy that caused this country to succeed throughout the 20th century.

  • stringman

    No no no…..the “Every man for himself” part. And, real scholars of the Constitution agree that it is the contrary of big centralized collectivist government. Real economists believe that we would have ‘succeeded’ a great deal better had we followed the Constitution. We would have come roaring out of this deep ressession or, avoided it all together (since it was government policy that caused it in the first place). It is obvious that you are big government, anti freedom kind of guy.

  • Bolio

    Very disturbing just when I thought the Church was moving towards more conservative values but like any parasitical disease liberalism is hard to eradicate but still trying to understand what liberal values are?

  • Nesta Callahan

    Which part of Florida do you live in?

  • Nesta Callahan

    Well, if first you don’t succeed, then try try again.

  • John Cunningham

    West Coast. New Port Richey which is just North of Clearwater.

  • John Cunningham

    That, I am good at. I a like the Ram keep butting that dam.