Accuracy in Media

NBC accuses Republicans of accepting bad “science” on vaccines, while Fox News fires back, accusing liberals of spreading bad “science” on vaccines. Each side is trying to score partisan political points. The message from both sides is that vaccines are completely safe. But that message is absolutely and demonstrably false.

As I noted in a recent column, the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program exists to compensate victims of vaccines. The latest Statistics Report shows nearly 4,000 claims were awarded financial damages.

Why do both sides of this “debate” pretend that vaccine-related injuries do not occur? Why not just report the facts? It doesn’t take a lot of work to dig them out.

Barbara Loe Fisher of the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) tells me that she has given more than 100 interviews in the last two weeks on the subject of the measles outbreak, but that the media simply will NOT report on the existence of this federal program and the implications for the subject of vaccine safety.

“Vaccines are the only pharmaceutical products that government mandates and completely indemnifies,” she notes. She is referring to federal legislation that takes legal responsibility for their actions away from the companies making the vaccines.

“I’ve been talking about it in every interview I do and I have been bringing it up. But whenever I talk about liability protection for the companies—that this is the only pharmaceutical product that is mandated by government and indemnified by government—they [the media] don’t want to talk about it,” she said.

Observers believe the glaring omission reflects the power of pharmaceutical companies or their advertising agencies in the major media. It is in the interest of these companies to make pariahs out of those favoring vaccine choice by playing down—or even suppressing—questions about vaccine safety.

Simply put, the evidence and history show that the vaccine makers have been given total liability protection for injuries and deaths caused by government-mandated vaccines. Vaccine safety is not “settled science,” as we have been hearing repeatedly in the media. To the contrary, for purposes of the law, vaccines are considered sometimes unsafe, even deadly.

The “Vaccine injury table” associated with the legislation includes a list of the injuries, disabilities, illnesses, conditions, and deaths resulting from the administration of such vaccines.

But why is it so difficult for the media to report on the existence of these health problems?

The vaccines that are covered include:

  • diptheria and tetanus vaccines
  • pertussis vaccines
  • measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines
  • polio vaccines
  • hepatitis A vaccines
  • hepatitis B vaccines
  • Haemophilus influenza type b polysaccharide conjugate vaccines
  • varicella vaccines
  • rotavirus vaccines
  • pneumococcal conjugate vaccines
  • seasonal influenza vaccines
  • human papillomavirus vaccines
  • meningococcal vaccines

As I reported in my column, the one exception to this drumbeat of misleading and inaccurate coverage about “vaccine safety” is on the local level, where correspondent Michael Chen of ABC 10 News in San Diego, California noted a case of a boy who suffered serious injuries, including fever, seizures, nervous tics and autism, as a result of two vaccines. The mother, almost in tears as she described what happened to her son, was paid $55,000 in damages through the federal program. But the damage award didn’t cover the autism diagnosis. She said she wished she had more thoroughly researched the safety of vaccines.

The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program grew out of the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. Fisher explains what happened: “The companies threatened Congress that they were going to leave the people without any childhood vaccines if they did not get liability protection. The companies wanted this liability protection and it was mainly for losses at that time for DPT and oral polio vaccine. MMR (Measles, Mumps, and Rubella) vaccine at that point was a relatively new combination vaccine.”

The DPT vaccine had been associated with brain inflammation and brain damage, while polio paralysis can be caused by the vaccine.

Fisher explains what the federal protection means for the companies: “Nobody who makes or profits from the sale of the vaccine, nobody who regulates the vaccine, who promotes the vaccine, who votes to mandate the vaccine—nobody is accountable or liable in a civil court of law in front of a jury of our peers when we get hurt because we’ve been told we have to take it, or when the vaccine fails to work.”

The compensation program, with total liability protection for injuries and deaths caused by government-mandated vaccines, was upheld by the Supreme Court in a 2011 case in which vaccines were acknowledged to be “unavoidably unsafe.”

My column actually underestimated the total financial damages paid through the program. The figure is actually $2.8 billion to the victims or the families of victims themselves.

Liberal and conservative media are trying to make political points over who’s right and wrong about vaccine safety. But Fisher says people who support her group and vaccine choice come from across the political spectrum and include Democrats, Republicans, libertarians, and independents. In the media, however, each side is trying to smear the other side, as if there is a partisan divide.

The coverage has led to cases of strange bedfellows, such as the George Soros-funded blog Think Progress running a story praising Megyn Kelly of Fox News under the headline, “Megyn Kelly Speaks Up For Mandatory Vaccination On Fox: ‘Some Things Do Require Big Brother.’”

Indeed, Kelly defended mandatory vaccines, saying, “…some things do require some involvement of Big Brother.”

What she and many others in the media have consistently ignored is the role of Big Brother in shielding the companies making the vaccines from the side effects of their products.

As I asked in my column: If there are no problems associated with vaccines, then why did Congress pass the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, which created a national Vaccine Injury Compensation Program?

The media on the left and right have no answer to this question. So they pretend there is no debate or dispute over the safety of vaccines. They simply point fingers about one side or the other being guilty of ignoring what they pretend is settled science.

The only thing “settled” about the science is that while vaccines work for a large majority of people, they can also cause serious health problems, even death, for some.

The commentators who ignore the truth are either lying or so utterly ignorant that they should not be in a position of offering “news” on a national basis. Whatever the case, the public is being denied the facts about decisions affecting the lives of their children. Fortunately, the public can go to sites like www.aim.org and the National Vaccine Information Center for information that is being denied to them.

A troubling aspect of the current debate is how people in the media act like experts on subjects that they know so little about. They seem to think that by huffing and puffing and sounding authoritative, they will be taken seriously. They have large staffs which seem incapable of making phone calls or doing elementary research.

If news organizations on the left and right can’t even dig out the facts in life-and-death matters involving children, then what can they be trusted to report accurately on?




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Comments

  • Jerry G

    This is just like global warming to the Left. The issue is settled so just shut up and let government take care of it.

  • Aneas

    Another reason why some people do not vaccinate their children with the measles, mumps,and rubella (MMR) vaccine is that Merck’s vaccine uses a cell line from an aborted child. Even in this day, there are still some people who are not willing to be accessories after the fact to murder.

  • procrustes

    ‘diptheria’ ? diphtheria…

  • ubiPetrusEst

    Thank you for providing this essential and scandalous information that the mainstream media is suppressing. You are performing a service for the common good. Registered nurses (and probably other health professionals) now receive vaccine propaganda in continuing education activities and articles in professional magazines. What a disgrace.

  • Mary

    Hitler said: If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be
    believed. He also said: What luck for rulers that men do not think! That’s about it!!!

  • Sheree

    Thank you.

  • Michael Lee Pemberton

    No morally responsible parent wants to play Russian Roulette with the health and safety of their children. After we have reassured ourselves of the five fingers on each hand, five toes on each foot, no vestigial appendages, such as a tail and other abnormalities, we are content to thank whatever deity we deem responsible for having a healthy and normal baby. After nine months of patient concern we are relieved that the waiting was rewarded with the child we expected. Vaccinations against diseases that threaten the health and well-being of that baby are unpleasant invasive procedures that are only justified by their continued good health.

    What if some of those vaccines contain trace elements of dangerous chemicals that harm the baby and leave them permanently disabled? The chemical preservatives used to ensure the stability and effectiveness of the compounds used for inoculations, a process which permits the vaccination material to be mass produced and stored for inoculation on demand, is one component that may have adverse effects. I read an article years ago concerning the use of trace amounts of mercury in one concoction. It was postulated that if given to newborns that even the trace amount of mercury could disrupt the normal development of the child’s brain and lead to conditions such as autism. It was suggested that this was not a problem if administered to children over the age of three, because they were sufficiently developed to withstand the adverse effects. There was a time when children were routinely breastfed and received benefits from their mother’s immunity.

    Sixty years ago when I was a child, vaccinations were not required until one entered school, and we received our first inoculations shortly before starting school. Granted, some of us were restless, talkative, and frequently bored, but developmental problems and setbacks were relatively rare. “Acting out” was usually the behavior of a rambunctious male child, but we were soon enough socialized and civilized by the judicious application of a paddle. Some of us experienced measles, mumps, and chickenpox, but grew up normally. We also experienced scrapes, cuts, and bruises as part of exploring our world. Now a child receives immunizations at approximately three months old and one-in-ten are diagnosed with ADHD/autism.

    “You are what you eat” was an axiom of earlier times. Many of the harmful chemicals we are exposed to as adults come by way of what we eat. Obesity in my generation was usually caused by thyroid disorders or eating too much of the wrong foods. Now it appears that in administering hormones to fatten our meat animals we have fattened ourselves. Immunizations of meat animals also find their way into our systems.

  • Blue

    Actually, American children (& many other countries, but most of this hype is coming from Americans) receive a vaccine on the first day of life, Hepatitis B, unless they are very lucky to have educated parents. They then receive a barrage of DTaP: Diphtheria, tetanus, and acellular pertussis vaccine,Hib: Haemophilus influenzae type b vaccine,IPV: Inactivated poliovirus vaccine,PCV: Pneumococcal conjugate vaccine,Rota: Rotavirus vaccine, as well as another dose of Hepatitis B. At 4 months, the same thing. At 6 months, another DTaP, another PCV, another HiB & another Rota.

    They are also frequently assaulted in utero by flu vaccine and TDaP given to their mothers, despite both being classed as Category C drugs with insufficient study.

    Of course, none of these vaccines have sufficient study as none of them have been studied for whether they cause cancer, mutations or fertility issues, despite containing ingredients which are known to cause all three issues. They’ve also only ever been studied individually, using another vaccine as a control instead of the scientifically accepted saline placebo. The combination of multiple vaccines is only done once they are approved and in widespread use. Anyone who allows multiple vaccines in one day is allowing their children to be guinea pigs.

  • Blue

    Sorry, that should say that at 2 months they receive a barrage of DTaP, HiB, IPV, PCV & Rota.

  • Michael Lee Pemberton

    WOW !!! Good read. And I thought I had it bad in the military. In basic training we were lined up and ushered through stations manned by medics doing target practice on us almost every week or two. Prior to deployments we were treated to almost the same ritual. Before deploying to Iraq for the PGW, I compared the number of injections to the stamped entries on my shot record card and counted one more shot than identifying entry; and I still do not know what they stuck me with. “Saudi Syndrome” may have started in the immunization clinic. They aren’t wiping out disease, they are destroying immune systems.

  • stringman

    It’s 1 out of 68, not 1 out of 10 but, why quibble. Let’s just go back to the days when almost every family had a member that was killed or permanently disabled by polio or tuberculosis or a myriad of other pathogens. I’m sorry, what were the choices, again? Get your ‘facts’ straight. And, oh yes, I am a cerified lab technician. Next you’ll be telling us that milk shouldn’t be pasteurized.

  • tchamp77

    While you’re at it, what percentage of the 4,000 awarded claims for vaccine harm do you think are bogus?

  • stringman

    Good point. How many were the result of badly administered injections or other mistakes and accidents and, NOT caused by the product itself? When it comes to humans, anything is possible…Falling off the exam table because they freak out at the sight of a needle. 4000 is a very small number when it comes to the vast number of vaccinations, something on the order of less than one one-thousandth of a percent. I have a swimming pool. I am thousands of times more likely to drown than have a bad reaction to vaccinations. Maybe I should get rid of the pool….and the bath tub lol.

  • johncocktoaston

    We are currently witnessing a massive Madison Avenue media campaign pushing vaccinations, which have become a new profit center for big pharma.

    They have blanket liability protection, so they can’t be sued for damages when something goes wrong. Now they are ginning up fear hoping and pushing for mandates. They are scaring parents who, understandably, worry about their children. There is a fair amount of hyperbole on all sides of the issue and all of this bile spilled over “anti-vaxxers” has become something of a witch-hunt.

    Are vaccines 100% safe? No. Are they very, very dangerous? No. As to the problems they can cause, all you need do is read the insert in any vaccine or read the CDC information sheet on the particular vaccine to see what problems have been reported. Unfortunately, many people would rather watch the Today show or The View than read the source information. There are substantial risks, but the language that explains them is as dry and opaque to the layman as the fine print in a credit card agreement.

    In many cases, but not all, the risk of the disease is worse than the risk of inoculation, however, the fact that many of these shots are newly recommended or required, coupled with the fact that the diseases they can (with varying degrees of efficacy) prevent are often not generally life threatening should concern everyone.

    These corporations want to sell as much of their product as they can, and the fact that they cannot be sued leaves lots of room for abuse. Big pharma and their former executives who now run the FDA have a poor track record for safety even when it comes to non-mandated drugs, can you imagine what they will do when they have blanket immunity and a mandate?

    I say pick and chose, follow your own schedule and research the vaccine schedules in more civilized countries where public health is not a profit center.

  • tchamp77

    1) For argument’s sake let’s say the vaccines aren’t faulty. But it’s cold comfort to be adversely affected by a routine vaccine shot regardless of what went wrong during the procedure.

    2) So you’d assume that the 4,000 cases is 100% of people affected? The FDA says 1% of adverse events are ever reported. So the number could be closer to 400,000.

    In the end “mandating” that everyone be vaccinated is problematic, because someone is going to be hurt in the process. The article merely points out that no media people are even mentioning that people can have reactions to vaccines, and instead paints all parents as crazy for not going along with the vaccine schedule.

  • Erudite Mavin

    You can drive down the street in a car and get hit and injured or killed.
    Lets ban cars.

  • Bonita

    Oh, your talking about the live polio vaccine decades ago that caused polio. Good point!!

  • Michael Lee Pemberton

    Sorr-r-r-r-r r-y, Stringman. I got my information from a liberal news source that was decrying the ADHD “epidemic” and lobbying for increased funds. ” …go back to the days when almost every family had a member that was killed or permanently disabled by polio or tuberculosis”, I don’t think so. I lived in those days. Personal hygiene has improved considerably since the 1940s.

    According to the CDC, “Poliovirus only infects humans. It is very contagious and spreads through person-to-person contact. The virus lives in an infected person’s throat and intestines. It enters the body through the mouth and spreads through contact with the feces (poop) of an infected person and, though less common, through droplets from a sneeze or cough. You can get infected with poliovirus if you have feces on your hands and you touch your mouth. Also, you can get infected if you put in your mouth objects like toys that are contaminated with feces (poop).”

    That same source states “TB is spread through the air from one person to another. The TB bacteria are put into the air when a person with TB disease of the lungs or throat coughs, sneezes, speaks, or sings. People nearby may breathe in these bacteria and become infected.” Being “a cerified lab technician” you must be familiar with the procedure to test for TB, the quarantine protocols and the treatment. The test for TB is relatively simple and could be performed routinely, especially if the public were better educated concerning the signs and symptoms.
    I have never endorsed abandoning the vaccination, only delaying it until a child is sufficiently developed. If you want to talk about the wonderful benefits of pharmaceuticals, let’s discuss thalidomide.

  • Old dancer

    I think it is misguided to think that any intervention is free of potential downsides. The science shows that preventing these diseases is statistically beneficial to the general population. Should parents make their own decisions? Absolutely, but it should be based on information, not impressions or (dare I say it) the opinion of people on the internet. Of course pharmaceutical companies make money on this, that doesn’t make it bad. Science shows that it benefits us to eradicate these diseases if we can
    .

  • texasaggie

    Mr. Kincaid, may I suggest that wearing a tin foil hat will protect you from all the various conspiracies that you see behind every tree and under every bed? You need to try it. It is guaranteed to work.

  • stringman

    Yeah…..cause polio vaccination products haven’t improved to the point that only 1 in 750,000 injected individuals are at risk of developing the disease. Oh wait…..yeah they have. And an estimated two thirds of Asian populations have been infected with a form of tuberculosis (Just as example). Doesn’t bode well for the rest of humanity. You have free choice to accept or reject the vaccinations. What do I care what you think….when you drag up past mistakes (that had zero chance of being avoided) as your argument for rejecting modern medicine. The perfect solutions for such difficult problems dont exist. Let’s don’t make perfection the enemy of good.

  • stringman

    Well….if hygiene is so improved then, why are two thirds of some Asian populations infected with TB? And, there may be a lot less poopy odor in the air of many households but, as a lab person that tests for coliform in product, I can assure you there is plenty of it all over the place. You are free to accept or reject the preventative measure. I never advocated a mandated requirement.

  • stringman

    What’s to discuss? Thalidomide is still in use today and has FDA approval for a number of uses. Just keep it away from those who are pregnant or may become so.

  • stringman

    Life is chocked full of ‘cold comfort’. Your life might be a bowl of cherries. Mine, not so much. Still, I’ll take it over the time preceding 1954, the year I was born. No one can tell me that life isn’t better now than it was then, at least in America.

  • stringman

    No disease has been eradicated. But, the fight will continue and, hopefully we will continue to win. Bugs keep developing immunities to antibiotics and we keep coming up with new drugs. Most of the time we win.

  • stringman

    Trust me. There are a lot of people that think we should do just that. Frightening!

  • Rosalie Martella

    Americans are so freaking stupid and that has been proven over and over again. Now the Vaccine debate is a Republican VS “Liberal” debate, its nauseating!! The sheep love to pick sides its never a meet in the middle thing, hence this Country continues to rape the middle class, Start Wars, create fake diseases, WASTE our Money, and bow down to the Banks.. When we learn to STOP picking sides and work together then just maybe something good can happen… UGH

  • palintologist

    Here’s a little-known gem about the Gardasil vaccine from a former Merck doctor: http://bit.ly/1ke1CgA

  • Dave Petersen

    Measles isn’t going to give a damn about any debate. Left wing, right wing or total morons to scholars. You can chance your kids’ health and kids of others and blow smoke about “what I know”….till it happens to you and yours.

  • A mom and an RN

    AMEN. These people are fools. These poor unvaccinated children have parents who love to gamble with their children’s lives. They are ignorant and pick and choose what they want to hear. Vaccines save lives.

  • A mom and an RN

    Ignorance. You don’t seem to mention the ravages and effects of any of these preventable diseases. Measles the number one cause of childhood blindness especially in third world countries where supportive medical care is hard to come by. Encephalitis. Paralysis. Oh but let’s not forget you’ll be the first at the Hospital asking for help
    from modern medicine.

  • RJS98

    For those who are opposed to vaccines, there is certainly sufficient evidence to justify your position on the matter and like wise a rejection of the other side’s evidence for vaccine safety. For those who are supportive of vaccines, there is sufficient evidence to justify your position as well. And likewise the rejection of any evidence for vaccine dangers. Are any of you who are politically minded and are republican, when was the last time you showed one of your democrat friends a scathing article on one of their proponents and that friend said “oh, you’re right!! I am going to run right out and become a republican today!!” It just does not happen that way. The big problem that I see is that big pharmacy companies have nearly unlimited funds to “create” any study they want as long as it comes out in their favor and they have the full support of the FDA, the CDC, and every medical education center thanks to the almighty $$. If you dare speak up against the Medical machine or any of their lemmings, you are immediately marginalized (like another comment made already) and considered a “tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist”. It’s not a theory if it is true, then it is called a FACT.

  • Joshua Leinsdorf

    This has noting to do with vaccines and everything to do with Americans’ statistical ignorance. No one claims vaccines are 100% safe. For every 500,000 people who get the polio vaccine, 1 will get polio. So, the 500,000 who are successfully protected pay an extra $20 per vaccination so the one person who actually gets polio can collect $10 million. Now, does anyone seriously think we should stop mandating polio vaccines and let the disease return? I feel sorry for the person who got polio, but you know what, this is called life.

  • Bert

    Of course milk shouldn’t be pasteurized ! That’s another issue altogether but the fact of the matter is that there are more disease outbreaks due to pasteurized milk than raw. Here we go again with you history revisionists blaming raw milk for something that only became a problem with the industrialization of milk. You have no idea about what really happened ! Jeez, are all you provaxers that dumb ?
    And you don’t have any idea at all about the real history of Polio and small pox for that matter. Did you know that FDR didn’t even have Polio ? He actually had GBS (Guillain barre syndrome) which he probably acquired from his small pox vaccine he received. Yes, that is one of the many proven adverse reactions to vaccine that the LAME-STREET-MEDIA hasn’t told you either. Do a little researching on your own instead of regurgitating everything you hear from CNN.

  • Bert

    Here’s a little history lesson for ya; Before the vaccine for Polio came out, all infantile paralysis was considered to be polio wether it was caused by the poliomyelitis virus or not. After the vaccine came out they redefined polio as only being caused by the virus itself. This thru out a huge number of other cases of paralysis which were not caused by the virus. This reduced the numbers and the vaccine industry claimed victory. Another thing was that the cases of polio were already on a steep decline prior to the introduction of the vaccine due to improved sanitation, hygiene, nutrition and the discontinued use of DDT and Arsenic to dip cows with. I suggest you see or read “Smoke, Mirrors and the disappearance of Polio” by Dr. Suzane Humphries.

  • Bert

    It’s very difficult to get compensated thru vaccine court. Fully 2/3 are turned away for minor technicalities or for downright malfeasance. Check out this video;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv_IaLHwgAQ

  • Bert

    Oh yeah, we’re doing so much better now, HA !
    No scientific evidence exists showing vaccines are not contributing to increased incidence of chronic illness and disability in children.
    2 times as many kids have chronic brain and immune dysfunction today than in the ’70’s when half as many vaccines were given.
    In 1960, USA ranked 12th in the world for infant mortality; in 2005, 30th; Now in 2014 we’re down to 48th. Yeah, we’re doing so much better…

  • Bert

    You said it, third world countries where poor sanitation, hygiene and malnutrition are rampant. In America though;
    Here are the numbers straight from the CDC.
    According to the CDC’s MMWR Summary of Reportable Diseases, there have been 1,877 cases of measles reported between 2000-2014.
    A search of the VAERS database in the years 2000-2014, there were 140 deaths reported from the MMR vaccine.
    “In 2003, two measles-related deaths were reported. The first was attributed to measles encephalitis in a child aged 13 years who had chronic granulomatous disease, received a bone marrow transplant in October 2002, and died in January 2003. Measles was confirmed by a positive serologic test for measles IgM and isolation of measles virus from a brain biopsy. Despite an intensive search, no additional cases were detected in the surrounding area. The second measles-related death was in an international traveler aged 75 years infected in Israel who had measles pneumonitis and encephalopathy. Measles was confirmed by reverse transciptase-polymerase chain reaction from nasopharyngeal swab and urine.”
    And, despite thorough investigation, they were unable to figure out where the measles came from in the 13 year-old who died… That strongly suggests it was vaccine-strain measles and not wild measles, and she was injected with it rather than catching it from other sources.

    Death from measles in the US is 1 in 100,000 and complications from it such as blindness is extremely rare ! In fact, a simple supplement of Vitamin A can and has reduced mortality in impoverished third world countries by 60%. This is a well known fact. Oh, but wait ! Pharmaceutical companies can’t make any money on vitamin supplements and they even discourage vitamin supplementation as well. In fact, they discourage breast feed because it interferes with the vaccine. How insane is that ? And while you may say that a simple vitamin supplement can’t make a difference just ask all the British sailors how vitamin C stopped scurvy or Vitamin D cures Rickets.

  • stringman

    There’s lies, there’s damned lies, and then, there’s statistics. Show me where you find the numbers supporting your statements and, I’ll show you how those numbers don’t add up.

  • stringman

    Rubbish. Sounds like you are implying that we should go back to the preindustrialized production of milk. That is a ridiculous idea. Was the milk that Louis Pasteur used in his experiments preindustial? I’d say not. And, as a matter of fact, I am certified to test raw milk for bacteria. And I can promise you that if you are drinking raw milk, you are headed for real trouble. Raw milk is one of the most perishable products in use. Even with all the inspections and all the modern refrigeration, the bacteria levels in it are often too numerous to count. Without pasteurization there would be an epidemic of sick and dying people. Sounds me like you have fallen for the raw foods fad. Utter rubbish.

  • Michael Lee Pemberton

    Interesting that you should mention Asia. 1) Human feces and urine are still the principle fertilizer on rice paddies. 2)One strain in particular of hemorrhagic fever is associated with Korea. 3)Malaria is apparently still a major concern that disqualifies Viet-Nam veterans from donating whole blood. 4)The anthrax spores from an infected bovine creature, such as a camel, can lay dormant in the desert for an estimated seventeen years and be inhaled during a dust-up. The world is full of disease and death.

    What I am questioning are the effects of stabilizers and preservatives in otherwise safe vaccines. Thalidomide was a major pharmaceutical industry screw-up that alleviated morning sickness and produced handicapped babies. Do we really trust Big Pharma not to screw-up again and harm infants, or do we provide them with infants for their experiments? Or do we investigate the incidents of autism and scientifically evaluate the connection of the vaccination event and the onset of autism in previously healthy and intelligent children? Employing scientific method over anecdotal accounts would eliminate the controversy or verify the suspicion.
    Mankind split the atom, travelled to outer-space and deciphered the DNA chain. Is it too much to ask to produce vaccines against debilitating and deadly diseases that do not maim our children? Medicine is an art, not a science. Would it be so terrible to bring the spotlight of scientific analysis to medicine? Something is happening to our most precious heritage and handicapping them and their parents, preventing them from living useful and productive lives. Pass me the hemlock, but do not dismiss my questioning.

  • Michael Lee Pemberton

    Mom, no one is questioning your dedication to alleviating disease and pain, but what if the cure is as bad or worse than the disease. Would you trade a child that is blind, deformed or condemned to a miserable short life for one with autism? I want it all for every child; health, happiness and quality in life.

    Modern medicine has its roots in alchemy, shamanism, witch doctors, voodoo, leeches, bleeding to remove bad humors and drilling holes in a person’s skull to alleviate headaches. A doctor’s tool chest consists of scalpels and chemicals, but it is the patients constitution and immune system that performs the healing. Physicians cannot create life or defeat death, only prolong life or destroy it through ignorance. Physicians depend on pharmacologists, and pharmacology is Big Business. Just because you resent the question does not provide you grounds for shooting the messenger.

  • stringman

    Excuse me? Did you just say that medical science is not science? OMG! Get a grip. So, I looked up the mortality tables. For those of you in Rio Linda, mortality tables give complete breakdown of statistics on how many people in each age category died from all the different causes (yearly). Right away, something became obvious. Children under the age of one are vastly more vulnerable to deadly influence than any other group up to the age of 50 and over. In other words, until we turn 50, the most likely age to die is before the first birthday. The most likely cause of infant mortality? Accidents. Why don’t we get constructive and do something about that?

    So, it’s true we vaccinate a lot before the first birthday. It is also true that infants are naturally prone to dying. You put two and two together and ,you get a lot of people losing their minds over a tragic coincidence.

    Do us all a favor. Stop losing you mind.

  • stringman

    So, I looked up the mortality tables. For those of you in Rio Linda, mortality tables give complete breakdown of statistics on how many people in each age category died from all the different causes (yearly). Right away, something became obvious. Children under the age of one are vastly more vulnerable to deadly influence than any other group up to the age of 50 and over. In other words, until we turn 50, the most likely age to die is before the first birthday. The most likely cause of infant mortality? Accidents. Why don’t we get constructive and do something about that?

    So, it’s true we vaccinate a lot before the first birthday. It is also true that infants are naturally prone to dying. You put two and two together and ,you get a lot of people losing their minds over a tragic coincidence.

    Do us all a favor. Stop losing your mind.

  • Bert

    Louis Pasteur di not use pasteurization on milk. He developed it for alcohol. He thought it was an abomination to use it on milk. Humans having been drinking raw milk even before the advent of agriculture, more than 15,000 years ago. It only became toxic when they industrialized it and fed the cows swill from making alcohol. Most of the bacteria in raw milk is not only benign it is beneficial for our gut bacteria and our health. It overwhelms any bad bacteria that may be present. There is more bad bacteria in processed milk due to the lower standards used in making it since they know that they are going to pasteurize it. The bad bacteria are the only ones surviving the pasteurization process and that’s why they now use ultra high temperature to do it now. The process breaks open the bacteria and exposes histamines and other proteins which cause allergic reactions. Then when they homogenize it they break down the fat globules which further denatures it which the body has trouble digesting. That’s why so many people are lactose intolerant. Natures ways are always best.

  • stringman

    It’d really be great if I could have a link to the site where you got this info. The scientific method is the way by which other researchers can duplicate the results of new theories. I can’t acknowledge or refute your hypothesis without examining the published results. I can tell you this much though, if you believe we can reverse the trend of industrialised large scale production of milk and, go back to the ‘natural’ state, you’re living in dreamland. The number and diversity of pathogens living in the teats of dairy cows, is truly astounding. I will also say this, you’re quite a good writer….of fiction.

  • stringman

    Wow, I’d love to see where anyone is advocating to stop breast feeding. YOU spin quite the fanciful yarn.

  • stringman

    I don’t see anyone here making this into a political dichotomy. Sorry, which wars did you say we started? Which diseases did you say were fake? And, sheep don’t pick sides. They stand around and wait to be slaughtered. Me thinks thou hast come to the battle unarmed, me lady.

  • stringman

    Yeah, humans have been consuming raw milk for thousands of years…….and dying at an early age. We live longer now than at any point in human history. If 400,000 people were having severe issues from vaccinations, some smart lawyer would have been on it already? Don’t you think there would be TV adds for people to line up for the class action suit? Sounds just like the artificial sweetener hoax to me. If there was any real evidence that these products were so harmful, the courts would be flooded with cases and the media would be covering it like an OJ double murder.
    What’s really harmful? You conspiracy nuts make me sick to my stomach.

  • Bert

    No, that’s not true. You’re confusing Life Expectancy with Life Span. Two totally different things. Life expectancy is an average while Life Span is the total life potential. People didn’t just up and die when they reached 40. Human Life Span has been fairly constant for thousands of years. And they weren’t burdened with all these ailments we have today. Cancer was rare in adults and almost unheard of in children. Even Alzheimer’s was rare in the elderly and now people are getting it in their 50’s even 40’s ! Not to mention all the autoimmune disease’s !
    Here’s a few articles for you to read and do some learnin’;

    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/lifespan-vs-life-expectancy.119016/

    http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/how-long-did-your-ancestors-live-while-eating-bacon-lard-whole-milk/

  • Scotty

    In rare instances, vaccines can hurt some people. But the benefit is 1000x the negative. I lived with a guy who was in the last generation of people to get polio. He couldn’t walk right, up or down stairs, and had to drive his car with a acceleration control by his hand. You people who are so anti vaccine are off your rocker, I have a young daughter, I won’t hesitate to vaccinate her for everything. I’m vaccinated every year for flu, and also for hepatitis B due to my job exposure. I also got the shingles vaccine and the HPV vaccine for my daughter and myself. I’ve never heard or seen or had a single problem. Vaccination is one of the best things Western medicine has ever done, to rid the world of polio and smallpox. Bottom line, it’s not vitamins sold on Saturdays, it’s real science, learn a little, and stop being bamboozled into risking your family’s safety.

  • Bert

    BTW, you can’t sue the vaccine manufacturer’s. You have to petition the US government in vaccine court. Where have you been all this time…since 1986 ? Since it’s inception they have paid out over 3 billion dollars out to vaccine injured people including those for autism.

    Please get some learning in your vaccine head before you go spouting off.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfqpZqEP6gg

  • Bert

    He pioneered the study of molecular asymmetry; discovered that microorganisms cause fermentation and disease; originated the process of pasteurization; saved the beer, wine, and silkindustries in France.

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/445964/Louis-Pasteur

  • Bert

    No lies here. We are 48th in the modern industrialized countries in respect to infant mortality.

  • stringman

    Just stop it. By those stats Cuba has better IM than the US. And China? Who would be dumb enough believe anything they say? Maybe you? The US is the most counting obsessed people ever. I trust our numbers mostly. Theirs, not so much. I’m not sure most of them can count. We have the best health care in the world. Face it. You are just antiamerican.

  • Harry

    I believe it’s within the realm of possibility that some children may inevitably be genetically predisposed to having dire ill effects from being vaccinated. In fact, I believe that’s likely what the government’s conceding when they opted to shield the producers of these vaccines from costly litigation.

    I believe it’s an argument about the “greater good”. Is it worth wiping out the scourge of polio for millions if, in return, there are dozens, or hundreds, or thousands (I do not know the number) of children who will be irreparably harmed? It’s a difficult moral dilemma.

    While I’m grateful my child will never have to fear the debilitating effects of polio due to the millions who came before and got inoculated, if I were on the other side of the equation, and the parent of one of those relatively rare children whose life was devastated from being inoculated (if that is in fact what caused it), my point of view would no doubt be different.

    There are scientists that rightly claim that, on any given day, inoculation or no inoculation, a certain part of the population who are children are going to mysteriously suffer catastrophic health setbacks, as have been described by parents who have faulted immunizations for their children’s woes. These scientists maintain that it’s coincidence, and that there’s no linkage. Sometimes children’s health takes a nosedive without provocation. However, if that nosedive takes affect within close proximity to them having been inoculated, it’s understandably cemented in one’s mind, rightly or wrongly, that there’s a cause/effect relationship at play. These scientists maintain that there is not, that it’s mere coincidence.

    I suppose one has to ask oneself why would the scientific medical community lie? Are they in the pocket of Big Pharma? Surely they can’t all be.

    Are they fearful of large-scale rejection of their advice to become inoculated, foreseeing the masses will walk away from these measures they view prudent, and giving declining diseases an opportunity once again to rear their ugly heads, and devastate the populations? I guess it’s possible. However, I don’t feel there’s something so nefarious at play.

    I think the medical field prudently weighs pros and cons. I think, much like a bookie, they look at statistical outcomes in setting their agendas. I think, by and large, they’re moral, decent people who have taken an oath to look out for peoples well-being. I think that, in much the way I personally feel it’s idiotic that the child of a Jehovah Witness is barred from getting a life-saving blood transfusion, it’s no different regarding the parent who refuses to inoculate their child.

    I know there’s freedoms in this country, and that you and I are rubbed the wrong way by government-mandated invasion of our day-to-day lives. However, I balance that with the need for children, who too often have no voice, to be protected from parents who are ignoramus’s. In much the same way that I want the government to send in Child Protective Services, against a parent’s will, if there’s a suspicion the child’s being abused by a parent, I also see a need to supersede the authority I would normally give a government entity, in this case.

    I personally have a deadly allergic reaction to wasp stings. It sends me into anaphylactic shock, and results in the need for an ambulance to be called, and for life-saving intervention by emergency personnel. I’ve been given an Epi-Pen which, for me, is a double-edged sword. The Epi sends my heart into cardiac arrhythmia, a different life-threatening situation. When I expressed fear of using the Epi when I’m in trouble from having been stung, out of fear of having a heart attack, two different doctors gave me the exact same reply. “You have a choice. You can use the Epi and risk experiencing a possible heart attack or, the alternative is, skip injecting yourself with the Epi, and die. It’s your choice”. My point here is, sometimes life’s choices suck but, you err on the side of statistical probability unless, of course, you’re an idiot.

  • andrea

    Stringman, you REFUSE to connect the dots, counting only on what you’re taught. As parents, we have the right to ask questions, to research easily accessible studies and to fight for our choices. Not belittled by people who swear they know all. Science is always changing, you should know that. We are living longer today, artificially. We need eat healthy, keep toxins out of our bodies, so we can actually fight what virus come along, naturally. Think for yourself. Connect dots. See the evidence out there, not just the studies. Be human, be compassionate. You will see just how much damage is being done. Let’s band together to help prevent damages due to illness, not treat the symptoms when they are here. Illness is inevitable, it’s how well our body responds to the illness to prevent the worst case scenario . You have to admit, if your immune system is well, you will most likely be able to fight off many virus without medical intervention. When we are pumping them, prematurely, with toxins, your immune system is suppressed. We need help, we need more studies. We don’t need your “science”

  • andera

    Honey, it’s a gamble either way. As an RN I’m sure you’ve seen evidence of vaccine injury. Allergies, asthma, sids, autoimmune, cancer. Oh, right. There are not studies linking them to these things. Actually, there are not studies at all. They are just being call coincidence. When are people going to realize that there are too many cases to be a coincidence. These “poor unvaccinated children” are actually given an opportunity to fight virus without a suppressed immune system. Yes, you inject toxins into your body, your immune system is going to be suppressed.

    You are gambling by vaccinating. Praying that your child will not become sick now, or years down the road or worst case scenario, die. We take the gamble on the opposite end. We are going to chance them getting the disease, that’s not as horrible as it’s made out to be, and worst case scenario, die. (we are also healthy eaters. no processed, and whole foods…. yes, that makes a difference, there are plenty of studies to back that up)

    How is it any different? It’s a gamble. Both can be preventable. Both have side effects. Let the people choose.

  • PontiacJones

    Wow. So everyone outside of the US is too stupid to count? If that is the attitude that makes you pro-american I’m a little ashamed to be here.

  • Laurie J. Willberg

    If vaccines are “unavoidably unsafe” then you can understand why so many people are unwilling to trade off the immediate risks of a vaccine injury for the very minimal risk of being susceptible to what are usually mild childhood illnesses. As for the silly allegation that unvaccinated individuals can infect the vaccinated — it’s too preposterous for any sensible person to take seriously. If people are going to freak out then freak out at the industry that’s responsible, not your neighbours.

  • PontiacJones

    Stingman also needs to realize that science thrives on criticism. If you cannot question the accepted “facts” then you’ll never learn anything new. A part of good science is having an open mind–we’ll never find the truth, whatever that may be, without it. I wouldn’t pay him much heed, he isn’t a good example of what science is about.

  • PontiacJones

    No.

  • PontiacJones

    Smallpox and polio are not the measles. If we’re talking about smallpox or polio then you may have a legitimate argument, though I would still never force someone to take something against their will. I think we’ll have a lot better long term results by educating people. Also real science isn’t funded by the industry that makes the product.

  • stringman

    Wow! I understand your shame, seeing that you refuse to recognize satirical exaggeration. The Chinese communists didn’t invent forced abortion but, they’ve certainly made a fine effort to perfect it. Did they include those abortive murders in their infant mortality stats? The Castro crowd, not to be out done, just may be the most brutal regime for its size. Does it really matter if they can read, as long as they commit mass murder and lie about? Maybe your didn’t notice that I limited my comments to those two specifically. Did you even read what Bert wrote? Maybe you agree with him.

    If I was unable to take the point from what was written, I’d be ashamed, too.

  • Chuck

    2 thumbs up for the name, John!!! Fletch lives!

  • Manzer Belanger

    No, you should NOT drink any milk or use any dairy products. These items are made for growing calves – NOT for human consumption. Read:

    YOUR LIFE IN YOUR HANDS UNDERSTANDING, PREVENTING, AND OVERCOMING BREAST CANCER Jane A Plant, Ph.D. 2000/2001

    And as for those illnesses – they were all on the way out by the time they created these vaccines. The also changed the POLIO definition after the vaccine was created – thereby making it look like it worked.

  • Manzer Belanger

    Bert, Stringman sounds like another shill working for the CDC, FDA or Big Pharma. They do not listen or read anything. Vaccines are sacrosanct to them – A NEW RELIGION !

  • Manzer Belanger

    Andrea, stringman is a shill promoting /working for Big Pharma. They DO NOT let up and continue to send all kinds of comments and requests for info – so that he/she can refute them without showing you their info. They get paid good money by our government to do so. Haven’t you seen the ads where they are looking for people to do just that ? Have a nice day !

  • gee wanacuplmor

    4000 is also a very small number when you consider the oblivious parents who unquestioningly believe that there is nothing harmful in vaccines who somehow end up with a damaged child and it may take years to connect the dots and figure out what happened. People keep dropping “one in a million” as an incidence rate for complications. Those are just the reported complications. Based on these numbers and the number of parents i’ve spoken with who have vaccine damaged children, there must be at least 2 trillion humans on Earth today. Its much more common than anyone in “Science”, medicine, government or the media realizes. I don’t have the means to really quantify it, but more like one in a thousand. That’s why this controversy isn’t going away.

  • Lisa

    My heartfelt thanks for writing this. That there are no dialogues happening … no true discussions about vaccine safety … it’s criminal. You would think that – at the very least – people would be interested in knowing from where the 2.8 billion has come. It’s not from the pharmaceutical companies’ pockets, but the taxpayers. Kudos to the few writers, reporters, doctors and others who are bravely raising REAL questions and speaking out.

  • VikingRN
  • VikingRN

    As a nurse practioner I strongly support vaccination as the single best primary prevention measure against infectious disease.

  • VikingRN

    Not at all accurate.
    VaccinesInfectious DiseasesVaccine IngredientsVaccine SafetyTesting and MonitoringPremature BabiesHerd ImmunityCombination vaccines and multiple vaccinationsVaccines in DevelopmentVaccines in Pregnancy

    Vaccine IngredientsQuicklinksActive ingredientsAdded ingredients:AluminiumThiomersal, also called ThimerosalGelatin and other stabilisersEmulsifiersTaste improversProducts used in vaccine manufacture:AntibioticsEgg proteinsYeast proteinsLatex (in packaging)FormaldehydeAcidity regulatorsHuman cell-lines, animal cell-lines and GMOsOther growing media

    The key ingredient in all vaccines is the active ingredient. This is the part that challenges the immune system so that it makes antibodies that can fight the disease. Apart from this, the main ingredient in vaccines is water. Most injected vaccines contain 0.5 millilitres of liquid, in other words a few drops. All other ingredients weigh a few milligrams (thousandths of a gram) or even less.

    Vaccine ingredients can look unfamiliar. However, it is important to remember that many of the substances used in vaccines are found naturally in the body. For example, many vaccines contain salts based on sodium and potassium, which are essential for life. People may think of formaldehyde as a man-made chemical, but in small quantities it is also found naturally in the bloodstream.

    All vaccine ingredients are present in very small quantities, and there is no evidence that any of them cause any harm in these amounts. If you look up some vaccine ingredients on the internet you may read that they could be harmful, but most of them are present in vaccines in amounts that are completely normal for our bodies. Even common salt (sodium chloride), which is essential for normal functioning of the body, is harmful in large quantities.

    Types of vaccine ingredients1. Active ingredients

    These are the parts of the vaccine made from viruses or bacteria (also called ‘antigens’). They challenge the immune system so that it makes antibodies to fight the disease. Vaccines contain tiny quantities of active ingredients – just a few micrograms (millionths of a gram) per vaccine. To give some idea of how small these quantities are, one paracetamol tablet contains 500 milligrams of the drug. This is several thousand times more than the quantity of the active ingredient you would find in most vaccines. Hundreds of thousands of individual vaccines could be made from a single teaspoon of active ingredient.

    Compared to the number of viruses and bacteria in the environment that our bodies have to deal with every day, the amount of active ingredient is very small indeed. Most bacterial vaccines contain just a few proteins or sugars from the relevant bacterium. By contrast it is estimated that 100 trillion bacteria live on the skin of the average human being, each of them containing many thousands of proteins whcih constantly challenge our immune systems.

    A few vaccines in the UK schedule are made using recombinant DNA technology. This is a technique that uses bacterial or yeast cells to manufacture the vaccine. A small piece of DNA is taken from the virus or bacterium that we want to protect against. This is inserted into other cells to make them produce large quantities of active ingredient for the vaccine. For example, to make the Hepatitis B vaccine, part of the DNA from the HepB virus is inserted into the DNA of yeast cells. These yeast cells are then able to produce one of the surface proteins from the HepB virus, and this is purified and used as the active ingredient in the HepB vaccine. The HPV vaccine and part of the MenB vaccine are made using a similar technique.

    Only one vaccine used in the UK contains genetically modified organisms (GMOs).

    More detail about active ingredients can be found on each of the pages about individual vaccines.

    2. Added ingredients

    These are products such as aluminium salts that help to improve the immune response to vaccines, or products that act as preservatives and stabilisers (for example, gelatin or human serum albumin). These are listed on vaccine information leaflets as ‘excipients’ (inactive ingredients). Like vaccines, most of the medicines we use also contain excipients. Most vaccines do not now contain the preservative thiomersal (also called thimerosal).

    3. Products used in the manufacture of the vaccine

    Unlike food product or other drug product listings, everythingused in the production of a vaccine will be listed under ‘excipients’. However, many of the items listed do not actually remain in the finished vaccine.

    A few products used in vaccine manufacture are a risk to some people, even in trace amounts, because they can cause allergic reactions (for example, egg proteins and antibiotics). These products are always clearly stated on vaccine information leaflets. Other items are present in such tiny quantities that they do not pose a risk.

    A complete list of vaccine ingredients can be found on the Patient Information Leaflet (PIL) and Summary of Product Characteristics (SPC) sheet for each vaccine. See the list of PILs and SPCs on our links page.

    Added ingredientsAluminium (an adjuvant)

    Many vaccines contain aluminium salts such as aluminium hydroxide, aluminium phosphate or potassium aluminium sulphate. They act as adjuvants, strengthening and lengthening the immune response to the vaccine. Aluminium salts slow down the release of the active ingredient from the vaccine once it is injected, and stimulate the immune system to respond to the vaccine. They also absorb protein well, and stop the proteins in the vaccine sticking to the walls of a container during storage.

    The amount of aluminium present in vaccines is very small (less than 2 milligrams of the salts, and less than a milligram of actual aluminium). After vaccination there is a temporary increase in the amount of aluminium in the body, but this is not a lasting effect. The body gets rid of most of the aluminium in just a few days. There is no evidence that this causes any risk to babies and children. Aluminium is a very common metal in the environment, and it is also found naturally in breast milk, formula milk, some foods and drinking water. Small amounts therefore accumulate naturally in children’s bodies.

    Two studies from 2002 and 2011 compared the impact of aluminium from diet and vaccines in infants. Both of these found that the total amount of aluminium absorbed from both sources is significantly less than the recommended safe maximum amount. Read the abstracts of these studies here (2002) and here (2011).

    It is now considered that there is no relationship between aluminium and Alzheimer’s disease. There is no evidence to suggest that exposure to aluminium increases the risk of dementia.

    Aluminium salts are found in these vaccines used in the UK:

    5-in-1 vaccines: Pediacel and Infanrix IPV+HibPCV (pneumococcal conjugate vaccine): Prevenar 13MenC vaccines: Meningitec, Menjugagte and NeisVac CPre-school Booster vaccines: Repevax, Infanrix IPV and Boostrix-IPVHPV vaccine: GardasilTeenage Booster vaccineHepB vaccine: HBVaxProThe new MenB vaccine (not yet part of the routine schedule): BexseroThiomersal, also called Thimerosal (a preservative)

    Thiomersal is a mercury compound used to prevent the growth of dangerous bacteria and fungus. It is not found in any of the childhood vaccines routinely used in the UK. However it is still widely used outside of Europe and the USA in cheaper multi-dose vaccines, because it is an important preservative.

    The World Health Organization (WHO) has stated that there is no evidence of risk from thiomersal in vaccines. Read the full WHO statement on thiomersal in vaccines. A recent Australian study of over a million children found no evidence of a link between thiomersal in vaccines and autism development.

    Gelatin (a stabiliser)

    Gelatin derived from pigs is used in some live vaccines as a stabiliser to protect live viruses against the effects of temperature. Gelatin in vaccines is highly purified and hydrolysed (broken down by water), so it is different from the natural gelatin used in foods.

    There have been a tiny number of cases of allergic reaction to vaccines containing gelatin (about one case for every 2 million doses of vaccine). People with a known allergy to gelatin should seek expert advice before receiving vaccines containing gelatin.

    Members of Muslim or Jewish religious communities may be concerned about using vaccines that contain gelatin from pigs. According to Jewish laws, there is no problem with gelatin or any other animal substance if it is used in a product that does not go into the mouth. Many Muslim leaders have also ruled that the use of gelatin in vaccines does not break religious dietary laws, because it is highly purified and it is also injected rather than ingested (eaten). This issue was addressed by aPublic Health England statement issued in October 2013. In 2001 the World Health Organization consulted with over 100 Muslim scholars, who judged that it was acceptable for Muslims to receive vaccines containing gelatin. See their statement here.

    Gelatin is found in these vaccines used in the UK:

    one of the MMR vaccines (MMRVaxPro)the Nasal Flu vaccine (Fluenz)the shingles vaccine (Zostavax)one of the chickenpox vaccines (Varivax)

    Very sensitive scientific tests have shown that no DNA from pigs can be detected in the Nasal Flu vaccine (Fluenz). These tests show that the gelatin is broken down so much that the original source cannot be identified.

    Human Serum Albumin (a stabiliser)

    Human serum albumin is a very common protein found in human blood. It is used in very small quantities as a stabiliser in one of the MMR vaccines (MMRVaxPro, 0.3mg per dose), and in one of the chickenpox vaccines (Varilrix). It comes from blood donors who are screened, and the manufacturing process takes away any risk of passing on viruses from the serum. No viral diseases have ever been linked to the use of human serum albumin.

    Sorbitol and other stabilisers

    Sorbitol is produced naturally in the human body and also found in fruit and berries. It is commonly used as a sweetener in foods and drinks. In vaccines it is used in small quantities as a stabiliser. There may be up to 15 milligrams of sorbitol in theMMR vaccines used in the UK (MMR VaxPro and Priorix). Sorbitol may also be present in one of the chickenpox vaccines(Varilrix). Sorbitol is usually harmless, but people with an allergy to sorbitol, or with rare inherited problems of fructose intolerance, should not receive vaccines containing sorbitol.

    Other products used in very small quantities as stabilisers in vaccines include:

    Sugar (sucrose)Lactose (milk sugar)Mannitol, similar to sorbitol – see aboveGlycerol, a common non-toxic substance often used as a food additiveMedium 199, a solution which contains amino acids (the building blocks of proteins), mineral salts and vitaminsMonosodium glutamate, a salt made from the amino acid glutamineUrea, a harmless organic compound found in the human body

    Emulsifiers

    Polysorbate 80 is a common food additive used in several vaccines as an emulsifier (to hold other ingredients together). Compared to its use in foods, there is very little polysorbate 80 in vaccines.

    Taste improvers

    The oral rotavirus vaccine (Rotarix) contains about a gram of sugar (sucrose) to give it a pleasant taste. This is about a quarter of a teaspoon of sugar.

    Products used in vaccine manufactureAntibiotics

    Antibiotics are used during the manufacturing process of some vaccines to stop bacteria growing and contaminating the vaccine. However, antibiotics which commonly cause allergic reactions (such as penicillins, cephalosporins and sulphonamides) are not used in vaccines.

    Traces of four antibiotics may appear in the following vaccines used in the UK. People with a known allergy to any of these antibiotics should ask for expert advice before receiving these vaccines.

    Neomycin is used in the production of the MMR vaccines(MMRVaxPro and Priorix), one of the Pre-school Booster vaccines (Repevax), the shingles vaccine (Zostavax) and the chickenpox vaccines (Varivax and Varilrix).Repevax may also contain traces of streptomycin andpolymyxin b.The Nasal Flu vaccine (Fluenz) may contain a trace ofgentamicin.

    Egg Proteins

    Egg allergy is quite common in children under 5, and much more common in children than in adults. In the UK schedule, both the children’s Nasal Flu vaccine (Fluenz) and the adult flu vaccine may contain traces of egg proteins. This is because the flu virus is grown on fertilised hens’ eggs. At the moment there are no data on the use of Fluenz in children with an egg allergy. However, a new study will soon report on the safety of this vaccine in children who are allergic to eggs. Egg-free flu vaccines have been developed but so far they have not been consistently available. Others are also being developed.

    In the past, people with an egg allergy were advised not to receive the MMR vaccine. Advice on this changed more than ten years ago. The measles and mumps viruses are grown on a culture which contains chick embryo cells (not on eggs). This means that there is not enough egg protein in the MMR vaccine to cause allergic reactions, so children with severe egg allergies can safely receive the MMR. Doctors have carefully studied this issue and confirmed that there is no increased risk of reactions to the MMR vaccine in children who are allergic to eggs.
    http://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vaccine-ingredientsChicken embryos are not human embryos.

  • VikingRN

    Strawman argument. Especially since the risk benefit ratio strongly supports vaccinations.

  • VikingRN

    SuZane Humphries is a quack. Jonas Salk saved millions of life es at no personal profit.

  • sixlittlerabbits
  • VikingRN

    Nonsenseproduct he proposes for our use has an historical association with abortion,” the National Catholic Bioethics Center states on its website, but then goes on to say “one is morally free to use the vaccine regardless of its historical association with abortion.”

    “The reason is that the risk to public health, if one chooses not to vaccinate, outweighs the legitimate concern about the origins of the vaccine,” the center’s position statement continued. “This is especially important for parents, who have a moral obligation to protect the life and health of their children and those around them.”

  • meanqueen

    This RN also disagrees. Good work, sixlittlerabbits.

  • Twylaa

    Below is a link to a petition for the right to make vaccine choices. As more and more vaccines are being developed, and stronger mandates are pushed for children, teens, and adults, it’s so important to assert our right to make choices for ourselves and our children.
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/prohibit-any-laws-mandating-force-and-requirement-vaccinations-any-kind/HW1B3YKz

  • VikingRN

    Can you post peer reviewed articles to support your ideas? Professional nurses use evidence based information to guide their practice.

  • stringman

    I prefer to live long artificially than die naturally, thank you very much.

  • stringman

    With all due respect, I could not make much sense out of your comments. You sound very confused.

  • stringman

    But not so open a mind that a breeze can blow though.

  • stringman

    Stay right there, I’m reloading.

  • stringman

    A sphincter says what?

  • stringman

    Yeah….and the rest of the world is so smart, they can see how stupid Americans are. (Sarcasm)

  • Loni Hull

    This father also disagrees.

    It’s not that I take issue with claims that most vaccines reduce some disease prevalence/incidence. I do, however, take issue with the fact that there are very effective treatments (some of them are pharmaceuticals) for those who manifest symptoms of infectious disease, one of the best being liposomal vitamin C in very high doses. I take 20 grams a day when feeling run down, with no side effects – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTXSTGGRvKY. NOTE: To healthcare workers or biochemists who may be reading this, I beseech you to look into intravenous or liposomal vitamin C very carefully if your primary concern is for patient well-being rather than precise adherence to mainstream medical practice and narrowly focused applied science.

    Additionally, risk-reward assessments used by the CDC and other public health agencies are often based upon projections and simulations that bear no resemblance to actual risk of suffering long-term disability or mortality from the pathogen in question.

    Thirdly, lab tissue studies demonstrate the causal role vaccines can play in creating chronic inflammation, brain injury, chronic fatigue, autoimmune diseases (many of which have high mortality rates), and brain injuries with characteristics of autism. Epidemiology attempting to exonerate vaccines of a causal role in such conditions are almost invariably fatally flawed.

    William W. Thompson of the CDC has plainly stated that the CDC has hidden the truth from the public. See for yourself: http://youtu.be/32nO3rpeBD4
    http://youtu.be/19uvPtg6SPI

    My blog: https://magellan35.wordpress.com/author/magellan35/

    I respect those who choose vaccines. Now please respect my choice to use other means to coexist with the microbial world of which we are part and parcel.

  • Bert

    Just stop reporting the facts ? Why, so you can stick your head back in the sand with confidence ? Read it and weep, fake man. We are behind Cuba in infant mortality rates. What a shame !

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate

  • Michael Lee Pemberton

    TY. I am a fan of Grumpy Cat and slightly sarcastic humor. Marquess of Queensberry, Code Duello rules, or is this to be a simple execution? No blindfold, please. Fire when ready.

  • Loni Hull

    Fantastic, intelligent, measured response, Michael.

  • Loni Hull

    You’re a quack. You are dismissed.

    Do you see now how ineffectual is your attempted dismissal of a source by means of ad hominem?

    Suzanne Humphries is brilliant, and one of your worst nightmares, no doubt. She knows orders of magnitude more about the biochemistry behind vaccine injuries than you will ever know. Or is it just that you do know but deliberately lie through your teeth? I’m never quite sure which it is with you lot.

  • Loni Hull

    I’m going to assume that you have an awesome sense of humour and are often misunderstood.

  • Kimberly Ireland

    Mandates are a slippery slope. Research and come to the best decision for YOUR family. Do NOT tell me what to do with mine.

  • Jerry G

    It’s called sarcasm.

  • Loni Hull

    And I like it.

  • stringman

    Facts my rosey backside! It clearly says that the stats were compiled and reported by the UN. Anyone that believes stats that come from the UN is either a dope or anti-American or both. Which are you? The UN is mostly comprised of dictator nations, communist nations, leftist nations, or Muslim nations. The reason I am sure of this? The world has very few free nations. What planet are you from?

  • stringman

    No, just dips………and lots of them.

  • Kathy

    The white house is not going to get involved in something that is the state’s right to legislate.

  • Bob

    They don’t work. At all. They are useless and dangerous.

  • VikingRN

    I have met exactly two true vaccine injured individuals in 30 years of Healthcare work.both of them developed Guillaume Barre with permanent sequellae.

    The evidence clearly shows that vaccination programs are both safe and effective strategies for reduction of morbidity and mortality. See upto date. Cochran world health organization and cdc for evidence based reviews.

  • Loni Hull

    The problem is that the evidence used to support vaccine safety misses several important considerations: 1) monitoring systems/reporting currently in place rarely connect the dots between vaccines and adverse reaction symptoms that develop more than a few weeks after vaccination; 2) epidemiology is notorious for being skewed to support bias; 3) lab tissue studies demonstrate biochemistry and causality between vaccines and oxidative stress, mitochondrial dysfunction, reduced methylation, molecular mimicry leading to autoimmunity, th1/th2 imbalance, and other effects that are known to, and can certainly, manifest as chronic, disabling, and/or fatal noninfectious disease.

    If a reasonable person 1) assumes that lab tissue studies only catch the occasional example of injury and that most other cases are missed by current monitoring 2) is aware of the math behind the actual risk of contracting and suffering lasting disability/mortality from a specific pathogen, 3) has knowledge of common nursing methods and nutrient support (vitamins in doses that create shocked gasps in mainstream caregivers, as one example) for the sick that shortens duration and severity of symptoms, 4) appreciates the significant, sometimes lifelong, benefits of naturally acquired immunity over vaccine-induced immunity 5) understands that there are corollary benefits to naturally acquired immunity such as increased resistance to other pathogens, mother-infant transmission of antibodies and other immunogenic compounds, and naturally acquired herd immunity (from which the herd immunity hypothesis originated in the first place), it puts an entirely different face on the necessity of blindly following the vaccine schedule put forth by public health authorities.

    I respect those who choose to vaccinate with whichever vaccines they deem necessary. But I also advocate for every consumer to carefully study all of the foregoing factors, which may well alter the commonly held perception that vaccines are the best, primary means of coping with microbes.

  • VikingRN

    is important to dispel myths, correct misinformation, and direct parents to scientifically sound information (table 1) [39]. Providers should avoid using ambiguous language or complicated scientific terms when communicating the science supporting vaccine safety and effectiveness.

    ?Autism – The most common vaccine myth, that vaccines cause autism, has suggested a number of hypotheses to substantiate the link (eg, that MMR or thimerosal [ethylmercury] cause autism). The myths related to autism and MMR and thimerosal are discussed separately. (See “Autism and chronic disease: Little evidence for vaccines as a contributing factor” and “Autism and chronic disease: Little evidence for thimerosal as a contributing factor”.)
    ?Overwhelming the immune system – Parents may worry that multiple vaccines overwhelm the immune system, possibly causing autism, autoimmune disease, or susceptibility to infections. The following observations provide evidence against this claim [102-104]:
    •With manufacturing advances and discontinuation of smallpox immunization, children are exposed to fewer antigens today than they were in 1980 [39]. The currently recommended immunizations for children younger than two years in the United States (figure 2A-B) contain approximately 300 bacterial and viral protein or polysaccharide antigens, compared with >3000 such antigens in the seven vaccines administered in 1980 [105-107].
    •Evidence of adverse effects related to exposure to multiple antigens is lacking. In a cohort of 1047 children who were exposed to an average of >10,000 antigens by age 24 months (predominantly through whole cell pertussis vaccine), there was no association between increasing antigen exposure and adverse neuropsychologic outcomes (eg, general intellectual function, speech and language, verbal memory, attention and executive function, tics, achievement, visual spatial ability, and behavior regulation) [107].
    •The infant immune system can respond to multiple antigens (conservative estimates suggest thousands) simultaneously [39,105,108]. This is illustrated by the observations that mild or moderate illness does not interfere with an infant’s ability to generate protective immune responses to vaccines and that combinations of vaccines induce immune responses comparable to those given individually [108].
    •Vaccinated and unvaccinated children do not differ in their susceptibility to infectious diseases for which there are no vaccines (eg, enterovirus, candida) [109-111]. On the other hand, infection with vaccine-preventable disease can predispose to severe invasive infections with other pathogens (eg, methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus) [112,113].

  • Loni Hull

    From the text above: “Autism and chronic disease: Little evidence for vaccines as a contributing factor” and “Autism and chronic disease: Little evidence for thimerosal as a contributing factor”.

    Little evidence is not “no evidence”, and some evidence is stronger than others (I find this quite compelling, for example: http://youtu.be/KiT7Y233404) Additionally, I can cite numerous lab tissue studies that definitively rule out the injection of thimerosal-containing vaccines into my own children, and I am well aware – as all parents should be – of which vaccines still contain this preservative.

    It is not that I reject claims that vaccines lower incidence rates for infectious illness. For me, the concern is with the quality of studies purporting to find no link between vaccines and certain adverse reactions (which do not in themselves rule out positive findings in those studies that *do* note correlations) and with a number of other considerations listed in my post a few comments downpage.

    Feel free to read my compilation of gold-standard studies here, which casts significant doubt on industry safety claims: https://magellan35.wordpress.com/author/magellan35/

    The long and short of it is this: I do not trust pharmaceutical companies to put the interests of my children ahead of profits, and I particularly disbelieve claims by vaccine advocates that vaccines play no causal role in epidemic levels of autoimmune disease in the developed world (I have read too many studies showing the metabolism involved, and know well how destructive and fatal such diseases can be). Therefore, when I find that an individual’s risk of contracting a specific disease is low and that there are very effective means of assuring rapid and full recovery, you can be sure that in that instance I will opt out of the vaccine (for the simple reason that the risk/reward ratio has shifted away from favouring the vaccine). I will do so even if the entire world tries to apply pressure to follow broadly accepted public health recommendations, not because I am a fool, but because I can do math and comprehend what I read.

  • Loni Hull

    I’ve just read through most of your comments here, stringman. Psychology students should be directed to this page as an example of what it looks like when someone with rigid preconceptions and his back against the wall desperately, stridently attempts to convince himself while in the guise of pundit.

    You even confused applied science with real science. Too rich. I can’t wait to see what you come up with next.

  • stringman

    Sorry if I kept you waiting. Sounds like you’re defending these poor commentors. I find that laughable. Just as an example, when I test milk for bacteria in the lab, a high count is anything but rare. If you are avocating consumption of unpasteurized milk, God help you. Likewise, the refusal to vaccinate for mumps, measles, smallpox, etc. Spin the wheel, take your chances.

  • stringman

    I’d me more than happy to entertain a criticism of science when I see one based on solid facts.

  • stringman

    When I was born, the doctor slapped my mother. I believe punishment should be somewhat porportional to the crime. Comparing today’s medical technology with the superstitions of old is nothing short of complete ignorance. I do hope that it was an obvious jest about gun play, though.

  • Michael Lee Pemberton

    Gun play, sword play, pugilism, execution, all in jest. Modern medicine being rooted in ancient ritual was not a jest. So long as medical technology adheres to the Hippocratic principle, I have no objection. I stand firm on the assertion that the body heals and the physician only helps, furthermore, modern medicine is based on a system of educated guesswork garnered from trial and error.
    There is an apocryphal story of a clinic operated by Hippocrates you may be interested in. It seems that the claim was made that no one ever died under his care at this clinic. A long line of applicants would form each morning along the outer wall of the clinic. When darkness fell and the crowd had dissipated, the assistants moved deceased persons from the clinic and deposited them where the line formed. When the bodies were discovered next morning, these same assistants lamented that it was regrettable that these poor unfortunate souls had not been able to gain access to the clinic in time to prevent their demise. While it is unlikely that Hippocrates caused these deaths, he was undeniably unable to save their lives or resurrect the dead.
    Death is the ultimate equalizer and does not discriminate against even physicians. “Physician, heal thy self.” If you do not take financial advice from a broker who is not wealthy, why would you rely entirely upon the advice of a physician who is not immortal? In my complete ignorance, I see modern superstitions replacing ancient ones and new problems overtaking the old, and the dead and dying all around posing as the living. Yet I consult a physician regularly because they have access to technologies that often work. One thing which I do not trust, however, is a wealthy and self-absorbed physician anymore than I place implicit faith in a mechanic, despite his computerized modern technology. Today’s outstanding physician is tomorrow’s voodoo priest.

  • stringman

    Immortality does not exist. Never has. And, even wealthy brokers make mistakes. Most wealthy people have been bankrupt before. If you’re not taking advice from them, who are you taking advice from? Tell me how we go from outstanding physician to voodoo priest. Is there ritual dancing involved? You’re line of reasoning is rather broken.

  • Scotty

    Not often I agree with the opposition, but maybe we have common ground here. But most vaccines are incredibly safe.

  • Helen J. Bruce

    Apparently with the ridulous statements you are making I have to wonder how many vaccines you’ve had! You need to put the medical books in the trash and start your own research. I’ve been in the medical field with alot more “credentials” and have figured it out. YOu need to do the same. And yes pasturized milk is the worst thing you can put into your mouth! Where do you think the dead bacteria goes after they heat it??? In you gut that’s where! Raw unpasterized milk from a jersey is PERFECT food.

  • stringman

    Interesting, which do you prefer in your gut? Live bacteria from cow’s milk or, dead bacteria from cows milk. The dairy farms make every effort to keep bacteria to a minimum. The processing plants will reject any tanker load with a high count. The problem? It can vary dramatically from cow to cow, day to day and, farm to farm. With unpasteurized milk, sooner or later, you’re gonna get a gut full.

    Please let me know if you are serving it at your house……so I can keep my family away.

  • Helen J. Bruce

    apparently you must have a vested interested in both the dairy and vaccine industry and have done your homework. Anything the goverment is promoting like dairy being good for the body along with ridudulous vaccines containing aborted fetus, better hit the books.

  • stringman

    Let’s recap. You don’t like cheese with your crackers, don’t have milk with your cookies, no whipped cream on your pie, sour cream and butter on your baked potato, yogurt with your fruit, shake with your steak? Would that be an accurate statement? Most people do. So, you and I are debating the merits of pasteurization? Or are we debating the goodness of dairy products in general? I am just not sure, from what you said. Help me out here.

  • AutismDad

    Pharma Troll

  • AutismDad

    With vaccines its experiment first, deal with collateral damage later if at all. The new creed is “FIRST ADMIT NO HARM”.

  • AutismDad

    The military has allowed this experimentation for decades.

  • AutismDad

    Autism is 1 in 68 or worse, Michael included ADHD along with autism.

  • AutismDad

    Blah Blah

  • AutismDad

    VIKINGRN…BS is an obvious troll.

  • AutismDad

    plopaganda

  • stringman

    Real mature…..not

  • stringman

    Maybe not. But you can sure sue any other manufacturer for harm that comes from their products. I don’t see them lining up for the artificial sweetener hoax. Sounds a lot like the vaccination hoax to me. Correlation may not be cause but, similarity is certainly suspect.

  • stringman

    But it won’t work on milk. Only it you say so. Bert knows best (sarcasm).

  • stringman

    According to who’s numbers. Consider the source, mister.

  • stringman

    You think Cuba is better than here? You should definitely consider relocating.

  • stringman

    You should definitely consider relocating.

  • VikingRN

    The math is 1 in a million for a serious anaphylactic reaction. 1 in a thousand for a serious measles complication of death,cognitive disability or blindness or deafness.

    I will gladly take the odds of vaccination over the very real risks of a vaccine preventable disease.

    The only side effect of the mmr that is greater in incidence than the non vaccinated population is febrile seizure. (Which are usually benign scary yes but benign) which may well be preventable through prophylactic treatment with acetaminophen. Best data .0017 % incidence febrile seizure of children within 2 weeks of vaccination.Vestergaard.et al 2004.

    Measles complications

    10% ear infections
    <10 % diarrhea (a leading cause of death for children.
    5% pneumonia
    1 per thousand encephalitis
    1 to 3 per thousand die
    Long term
    4 to 11 per hundred thousand will die from SSPE. Source cdc dot gov/measles.

    Tell me again why you think wild measles or chicken pox or polio is safer than the vaccine? Every single potentially fatal or disabling condition is greater for wild measles infection is greater than That of vaccine associated febrile seizure.

    You are naive if you think complementary and alternative medicine approaches following infection are more effective than the primary prevention measure of vaccination. Cam measure are supplemental supports for prevention against infection not primary.

  • Loni Hull

    So, let’s see…my complaint is that current monitoring misses a large number of adverse events, and your response is to cite numbers generated by current monitoring?

    You then suggest that I am naive, but it seems to be you who has an overabundance of trust in a deeply flawed system. I will continue to do the math on each pathogen for the area in which my family lives and our habits/lifestyle, and when my math and the CDC’s do not align, I’m going to trust mine. Even when the math indicates an advantage in seeking artificial immunity, it does not indemnify the industry from rejection and criticism from consumers if the product(s) on offer are not meticulously tested and manufactured. In this regard, I dare say you and I have different ideas of what constitutes good science.

    I am always willing to reevaluate my risk assessment for any pathogen as new data becomes available, but you have offered nothing new here.

    By the way, my new favourite question: Which vaccines would you mandate, if any?

  • VikingRN

    As an advanced practice nurse I will trust the efforts of the Cochrane Reviews, Institute of Medicine CDC and the World Health Organization and Up to Date. The recommendations made based on the evidence are the best available.

    Your criticism of the monitoring systems are unwarrated. They caught the problem with the Rota Virus in short order and it was withdrawn from use.

  • Loni Hull

    So, since you are convinced that the vaccines are overwhelmingly safe(ish), which ones should be mandated?

    I am an engineer. I look at how systems function and the manner in which individual components contribute to synergy. Here is why I have a problem believing that monitoring systems are not missing tremendous numbers of adverse events: https://magellan35.wordpress.com/author/magellan35/

    Also see: http://vaccinepapers.org/aluminum-experiments-part3/

    Pathogens need to be respected. No doubt. But the fear fomented in support of maximum sales of each and every available vaccine is more often marketing hyperbole than math or science.

  • IIRC, those “Human cell-lines” in your second paragraph are stem cells cultured from a fetus aborted in the 60s

    http://www.historyofvaccines[dot]org/content/articles/human-cell-strains-vaccine-development

    It’s not like they’re dead babies in a blender, though.

  • VikingRN

    Again the point isn’t that vaccines are without risk. The point is that the wild diseases present a greater risk.

    Number of antigens in early childhood vaccines and neuropsychological outcomes at age 7-10?years.
    AU
    Iqbal S, Barile JP, Thompson WW, DeStefano F
    SO
    Pharmacoepidemiol Drug Saf. 2013;22(12):1263.

    PURPOSE: Concerns have been raised that children may be receiving too many immunizations under the recommended schedule in the USA. We used a publicly available dataset to evaluate the association between antibody-stimulating proteins and polysaccharides from early childhood vaccines and neuropsychological outcomes at age 7-10?years.
    METHODS: Children aged 7-10?years from four managed care organizations underwent standardized tests for domain-specific neuropsychological outcomes: general intellectual function, speech and language, verbal memory, attention and executive function, tics, achievement, visual spatial ability, and behavior regulation. Vaccination histories up to 24?months of age were obtained from medical charts, electronic records, and parents’ records. Logistic regressions and structural equation modeling (SEM) were used to determine associations between total antigens up to 7, 12, and 24?months and domain-specific outcomes.
    RESULTS: On average, children (N?=?1047) received 7266, 8127, and 10?341 antigens by ages 7, 12, and 24?months, respectively. For adjusted analyses, increase (per 1000) in the number of antigens was not associated with any neuropsychological outcomes. Antigen counts above the 10th percentile, compared with lower counts, were also not associated with any adverse outcomes. However, children with higher antigen counts up to 24?months performed better on attention and executive function tests (odds ratio for lower scores?=?0.51, 95% confidence interval?=?0.26, 0.99). Similar results were found with SEM analysis (b?=?0.08, p?=?0.02).
    CONCLUSIONS: We did not find any adverse associations between antigens received through vaccines in the first two years of life and neuropsychological outcomes in later childhood. Published 2013. This article is a U.S. Government work and is in the public domain in the USA.
    AD
    Immunization Safety Office, Division of Healthcare Quality Promotion, National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta, GA, USA.
    PMID
    23847024

  • VikingRN

    Yup. The fetuses were most certainly not aborted for research reasons. The Catholic Church has specifically stated that these vaccines are ok to use.

  • Loni Hull

    Some of the pathogens do present greater risk than others, that is true. It is important to know which ones may justify the use of a vaccine based upon prevalence and actual risk of suffering lingering dysability or mortality in the wake of infection.

    As for DeStefano, his credibility with me and many other consumers is in tatters. I am sorry if you cannot see why.

  • VikingRN

    0 Addressing parents’ concerns: do multiple vaccines overwhelm or weaken the infant’s immune system?
    AU
    Offit PA, Quarles J, Gerber MA, Hackett CJ, Marcuse EK, Kollman TR, Gellin BG, Landry S
    SO
    Pediatrics. 2002;109(1):124.

    Recent surveys found that an increasing number of parents are concerned that infants receive too many vaccines. Implicit in this concern is that the infant’s immune system is inadequately developed to handle vaccines safely or that multiple vaccines may overwhelm the immune system. In this review, we will examine the following: 1) the ontogeny of the active immune response and the ability of neonates and young infants to respond to vaccines; 2) the theoretic capacity of an infant’s immune system; 3) data that demonstrate that mild or moderate illness does not interfere with an infant’s ability to generate protective immune responses to vaccines; 4) how infants respond to vaccines given in combination compared with the same vaccines given separately; 5) data showing that vaccinated children are not more likely to develop infections with other pathogens than unvaccinated children; and 6) the fact that infants actually encounter fewer antigens in vaccines today than they did 40 or 100 years ago.
    AD
    Section of Infectious Diseases, Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, and Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA. offit@email.chop.edu
    PMID
    11773551

  • Loni Hull

    I think we should just agree to disagree. We are talking around each other and clearly have diametrically opposing perspectives on how much trust can be placed in public institutions and industry.

  • You and as a US population will decide where this thing is allowed to go. The CDC and big pharma are in definitely experiencing desperate times in the containment of the vaccine truth they have denied for decades. As you have continued to allow the poisoning of infants and children with forced vaccines, so it shall eventually be with as well with the adults. Do not think it will not happen. Many of even the most refuse the facts pro-vaccine supporters; do not want vaccines forced on adults, (themselves). This will eventually happen, and they are not entirely crazed with the push to force vaccines; due to the awakening of vaccine truth existing, (due to the continued massive number and level of vaccine injuries that have taken place, and that they now know that they can not and nor will they ever stop the truth information that has been put out there in the public informational circles, and nor can they ever contain it.

    Adults Targeted as Federal Government Prepares to Track the Unvaccinated, (13 more vaccines, and just count the doses)!

    http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/March-2015/adults-targeted-for-vaccine-compliance-by-feds.aspx

    Federal Government Prepares to Track Unvaccinated Adults
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/federal-government-prepares-to-track-unvaccinated-adults/

    Recommended Adult Immunization Schedule, by Vaccine and Age Group1
    United States, 2015
    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/adult.html

    Catherine Frompovich: FORCED ADULT VACCINATION, Respond Today! ~ Sallie Elkordy
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/themaryandsallieshow/2015/03/08/catherine-frompovich-forced-adult-vaccination-respond-today-sallie-elkordy

    No Vaccines For Me!
    Kathleen Dunkelberger RN,BC,CLNC-MOM!
    http://www.novaccinesforme.com/

    Can You Handle the Truth About Vaccines?

    NBC accuses Republicans of accepting bad “science” on vaccines, while Fox News fires back, accusing liberals of spreading bad “science” on vaccines. Each side is trying to score partisan political points. The message from both sides is that vaccines are completely safe. But that message is absolutely and demonstrably false.

    As I noted in a recent column, the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program exists to compensate victims of vaccines. The latest Statistics Report shows nearly 4,000 claims were awarded financial damages.

    Why do both sides of this “debate” pretend that vaccine-related injuries do not occur? Why not just report the facts? It doesn’t take a lot of work to dig them out.

    Barbara Loe Fisher of the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) tells me that she has given more than 100 interviews in the last two weeks on the subject of the measles outbreak, but that the media simply will NOT report on the existence of this federal program and the implications for the subject of vaccine safety.

    “Vaccines are the only pharmaceutical products that government mandates and completely indemnifies,” she notes. She is referring to federal legislation that takes legal responsibility for their actions away from the companies making the vaccines.

    “I’ve been talking about it in every interview I do and I have been bringing it up. But whenever I talk about liability protection for the companies—that this is the only pharmaceutical product that is mandated by government and indemnified by government—they [the media] don’t want to talk about it,” she said.

    Observers believe the glaring omission reflects the power of pharmaceutical companies or their advertising agencies in the major media. It is in the interest of these companies to make pariahs out of those favoring vaccine choice by playing down—or even suppressing—questions about vaccine safety.

    Simply put, the evidence and history show that the vaccine makers have been given total liability protection for injuries and deaths caused by government-mandated vaccines. Vaccine safety is not “settled science,” as we have been hearing repeatedly in the media. To the contrary, for purposes of the law, vaccines are considered sometimes unsafe, even deadly.

    Read more:
    http://www.aim.org/aim-column/can-you-handle-the-truth-about-vaccines/

    Vaccine aluminum adjuvant causation of neuroglial activation and neuroinflammation in the brain of patients with autism- Page 2
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-aluminum-adjuvant-causation-of-neuroglial-activation-and-neuroinflammation-in-the-brain-of-patients-with-autism–page-2.html

    Vaccine Production With – Human Diploid Cells (aborted fetal cell tissue)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-production-with—human-diploid-cells-aborted-fetal-cell—tissue.html

    Gardasil-The Flagship Example of the Failure of Vaccine Authorities to Regulate and Assure Vaccine Safety
    http://www.vacfacts.info/gardasil-the-flagship-example-of-the-failure-of-vaccine-authorities-to-regulate-and-assure-vaccine-safety.html

  • Capt Ron

    I recently ran across an interesting statistic… Vaccines produced and administered around 1980 contained about 3000 infectious disease antigens while that number is about 150 today! Current vaccines are overwhelming the immune system???

  • VikingRN

    I just read a similar report at up to date. The medical evidence aggregator. Theoretically an infants immune system could handle 100000 antigens simultaneously.

  • Puck

    kindly GFY. The info you spew is putting others at risk. But hey, if youre ok with the deaths of innocents on your hands then go ahead.

  • ilyas252

    You are a RawStory fag, GFY.

  • Puck

    Ah, love the “fag” comment. Either you’re 12, or just an emotionally stunted adult who is confused about your own sexuality so you think that’s an insult. Either way, I could care less what you have to say. Keep defending this psycho thou if you feel you need to be complicit in harming others.

  • ilyas252

    Why do stupid libs bring out the idiotic “sexuality” argument? It is an insult, nothing more. RawStory is where fags live.

  • Puck

    “Why do stupid libs bring out the idiotic “sexuality” argument? ”

    Because it’s true. It’s a psychological condition called projection.

    “It is an insult, nothing more. RawStory is where fags live”

    It’s not an insult, it’s what things are. Nice job on complaining about insults, when you do the exact same. Kinda makes you look like a fucking idiot when you complain about people doing exactly what you are doing. You should look up the term cognitive dissonance. Seems to fit you nicely.

  • ilyas252

    No negro, it is libs being stupid. If this “projection” thing was real that would mean all you pole smoking libs are really cons because you are obsessed with Fox News, George Bush, and you keep Sarah Palin in the news.

    Later Con.

  • Puck

    “No negro”

    And there the racism is. Along with the pole smoking comment you pretty much proved my point. So here, this ones just for you cause im done with your stupid racist ass….

  • JEFFTHEALMIGHTY

    Never has so little been said with so many words

  • JEFFTHEALMIGHTY

    Hitler did nothing wrong

  • JEFFTHEALMIGHTY

    Poor father

  • JEFFTHEALMIGHTY

    Poor father

  • AutismDad

    buttcrack

  • AutismDad

    The Vatican is a vaccine expert?

  • AutismDad

    VikingRN can COPY!

  • AutismDad

    But he did, he let your kind live

  • blindjustice

    OMG you actually have the audacity to quote studies done by Dr. William W. Thompson (the CDC whistle blower) and DeStefano who was also involved in the MMR fudged studies. You see it is pointless to to use studies done by the CDC or paid for by big Pharma. We are no longer listening to these corrupted Pharma owned regulatory agencies. They have been caught in one lie after another and are never held accountable.

  • Michael Lee Pemberton

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/Thimerosal/QA_Pediatrics-thimerosal-autism.html provides CDC study results that refute the danger of low dose mercury exposure from Thimerosal used as a preservative in multi-dose vials of childhood disease vaccines. Single dose quantities of the vaccine are distributed in disposable injectors and supposedly do not contain the preservative material as they are not prone to contamination or the development of bacteria if they are properly stored and used promptly.
    “The study was published today (April 21) in the Journal of the American Medication Association” and is presented at http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/pregnancyparenting/measles-vaccine-not-linked-with-autism-even-in-high-risk-kids/ar-AAbscXc?ocid=ansMSNHealth11. It mentions numerous demographic considerations, but does not address the multi-dose vial, with Thimerosal added, versus the single use injector without Thimerosal. Taken together, however, they seem to dismiss any connection between childhood vaccinations and subsequent development of autism. I pray that they are correct, but if my children were of an age to receive inoculations today, I would insist on the single dose disposable injector just the same and would personally verify the expiration date as well as insist that the lot and batch numbers be recorded for future reference.

  • VikingRN

    No I can share factual information from actual sources.

  • VikingRN

    Retraction: Measles-mumps-rubella vaccination timing and autism among young African American boys: a reanalysis of CDC data

    Brian S Hooker

    : Brian S Hooker

    The Hooker paper was a steaming mass of cow dung. Even a 5th rate journal was able to see beyond the poor quality work of Dr hooker. http://www.translationalneurodegeneration.com/content/3/1/22

  • AutismDad

    NOT!

  • VikingRN

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25898051

    EXPOSURES:
    MMR vaccine receipt (0, 1, 2 doses) between birth and 5 years of age.
    MAIN OUTCOMES AND MEASURES:
    ASD status defined as 2 claims with a diagnosis code in any position for autistic disorder or other specified pervasive developmental disorder (PDD) including Asperger syndrome, or unspecified PDD (International Classification of Diseases, Ninth Revision, Clinical Modification 299.0x, 299.8x, 299.9x).
    RESULTS:
    Of 95,727 children with older siblings, 994 (1.04%) were diagnosed with ASD and 1929 (2.01%) had an older sibling with ASD. Of those with older siblings with ASD, 134 (6.9%) had ASD, vs 860 (0.9%) children with unaffected siblings (P?<?.001). MMR vaccination rates (?1 dose) were 84% (n?=?78,564) at age 2 years and 92% (n?=?86,063) at age 5 years for children with unaffected older siblings, vs 73% (n?=?1409) at age 2 years and 86% (n?=?1660) at age 5 years for children with affected siblings. MMR vaccine receipt was not associated with an increased risk of ASD at any age. For children with older siblings with ASD, at age 2, the adjusted relative risk (RR) of ASD for 1 dose of MMR vaccine vs no vaccine was 0.76 (95% CI, 0.49-1.18; P?=?.22), and at age 5, the RR of ASD for 2 doses compared with no vaccine was 0.56 (95% CI, 0.31-1.01; P?=?.052). For children whose older siblings did not have ASD, at age 2, the adjusted RR of ASD for 1 dose was 0.91 (95% CI, 0.67-1.20; P?=?.50) and at age 5, the RR of ASD for 2 doses was 1.12 (95% CI, 0.78-1.59; P?=?.55).
    CONCLUSIONS AND RELEVANCE:
    In this large sample of privately insured children with older siblings, receipt of the MMR vaccine was not associated with increased risk of ASD, regardless of whether older siblings had ASD. These findings indicate no harmful association between MMR vaccine receipt and ASD even among children already at higher risk for ASD.

  • VikingRN

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pu

    EXPOSURES:
    MMR vaccine receipt (0, 1, 2 doses) between birth and 5 years of age.
    MAIN OUTCOMES AND MEASURES:
    ASD status defined as 2 claims with a diagnosis code in any position for autistic disorder or other specified pervasive developmental disorder (PDD) including Asperger syndrome, or unspecified PDD (International Classification of Diseases, Ninth Revision, Clinical Modification 299.0x, 299.8x, 299.9x).
    RESULTS:
    Of 95,727 children with older siblings, 994 (1.04%) were diagnosed with ASD and 1929 (2.01%) had an older sibling with ASD. Of those with older siblings with ASD, 134 (6.9%) had ASD, vs 860 (0.9%) children with unaffected siblings (P?<?.001). MMR vaccination rates (?1 dose) were 84% (n?=?78,564) at age 2 years and 92% (n?=?86,063) at age 5 years for children with unaffected older siblings, vs 73% (n?=?1409) at age 2 years and 86% (n?=?1660) at age 5 years for children with affected siblings. MMR vaccine receipt was not associated with an increased risk of ASD at any age. For children with older siblings with ASD, at age 2, the adjusted relative risk (RR) of ASD for 1 dose of MMR vaccine vs no vaccine was 0.76 (95% CI, 0.49-1.18; P?=?.22), and at age 5, the RR of ASD for 2 doses compared with no vaccine was 0.56 (95% CI, 0.31-1.01; P?=?.052). For children whose older siblings did not have ASD, at age 2, the adjusted RR of ASD for 1 dose was 0.91 (95% CI, 0.67-1.20; P?=?.50) and at age 5, the RR of ASD for 2 doses was 1.12 (95% CI, 0.78-1.59; P?=?.55).
    CONCLUSIONS AND RELEVANCE:
    In this large sample of privately insured children with older siblings, receipt of the MMR vaccine was not associated with increased risk of ASD, regardless of whether older siblings had ASD. These findings indicate no harmful association between MMR vaccine receipt and ASD even among children already at higher risk for ASD.

  • VikingRN

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pu

    EXPOSURES:
    MMR vaccine receipt (0, 1, 2 doses) between birth and 5 years of age.
    MAIN OUTCOMES AND MEASURES:
    ASD status defined as 2 claims with a diagnosis code in any position for autistic disorder or other specified pervasive developmental disorder (PDD) including Asperger syndrome, or unspecified PDD (International Classification of Diseases, Ninth Revision, Clinical Modification 299.0x, 299.8x, 299.9x).
    RESULTS:
    Of 95,727 children with older siblings, 994 (1.04%) were diagnosed with ASD and 1929 (2.01%) had an older sibling with ASD. Of those with older siblings with ASD, 134 (6.9%) had ASD, vs 860 (0.9%) children with unaffected siblings (P?<?.001). MMR vaccination rates (?1 dose) were 84% (n?=?78,564) at age 2 years and 92% (n?=?86,063) at age 5 years for children with unaffected older siblings, vs 73% (n?=?1409) at age 2 years and 86% (n?=?1660) at age 5 years for children with affected siblings. MMR vaccine receipt was not associated with an increased risk of ASD at any age. For children with older siblings with ASD, at age 2, the adjusted relative risk (RR) of ASD for 1 dose of MMR vaccine vs no vaccine was 0.76 (95% CI, 0.49-1.18; P?=?.22), and at age 5, the RR of ASD for 2 doses compared with no vaccine was 0.56 (95% CI, 0.31-1.01; P?=?.052). For children whose older siblings did not have ASD, at age 2, the adjusted RR of ASD for 1 dose was 0.91 (95% CI, 0.67-1.20; P?=?.50) and at age 5, the RR of ASD for 2 doses was 1.12 (95% CI, 0.78-1.59; P?=?.55).
    CONCLUSIONS AND RELEVANCE:
    In this large sample of privately insured children with older siblings, receipt of the MMR vaccine was not associated with increased risk of ASD, regardless of whether older siblings had ASD. These findings indicate no harmful association between MMR vaccine receipt and ASD even among children already at higher risk for ASD.

    The point is yet again there is no linkage.

  • VikingRN

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pu

    EXPOSURES:
    MMR vaccine receipt (0, 1, 2 doses) between birth and 5 years of age.
    MAIN OUTCOMES AND MEASURES:
    ASD status defined as 2 claims with a diagnosis code in any position for autistic disorder or other specified pervasive developmental disorder (PDD) including Asperger syndrome, or unspecified PDD (International Classification of Diseases, Ninth Revision, Clinical Modification 299.0x, 299.8x, 299.9x).
    RESULTS:
    Of 95,727 children with older siblings, 994 (1.04%) were diagnosed with ASD and 1929 (2.01%) had an older sibling with ASD. Of those with older siblings with ASD, 134 (6.9%) had ASD, vs 860 (0.9%) children with unaffected siblings (P?<?.001). MMR vaccination rates (?1 dose) were 84% (n?=?78,564) at age 2 years and 92% (n?=?86,063) at age 5 years for children with unaffected older siblings, vs 73% (n?=?1409) at age 2 years and 86% (n?=?1660) at age 5 years for children with affected siblings. MMR vaccine receipt was not associated with an increased risk of ASD at any age. For children with older siblings with ASD, at age 2, the adjusted relative risk (RR) of ASD for 1 dose of MMR vaccine vs no vaccine was 0.76 (95% CI, 0.49-1.18; P?=?.22), and at age 5, the RR of ASD for 2 doses compared with no vaccine was 0.56 (95% CI, 0.31-1.01; P?=?.052). For children whose older siblings did not have ASD, at age 2, the adjusted RR of ASD for 1 dose was 0.91 (95% CI, 0.67-1.20; P?=?.50) and at age 5, the RR of ASD for 2 doses was 1.12 (95% CI, 0.78-1.59; P?=?.55).
    CONCLUSIONS AND RELEVANCE:
    In this large sample of privately insured children with older siblings, receipt of the MMR vaccine was not associated with increased risk of ASD, regardless of whether older siblings had ASD. These findings indicate no harmful association between MMR vaccine receipt and ASD even among children already at higher risk for ASD.
    Not in any reality are you even remotely accurate.

    You have placed your identity as the father of a dialed child. Perhaps counselling would help you gain perspective.

  • AutismDad

    Its junk science . It doesn’t explain the 97% with regressive autism that IS NOT INHERITED

  • AutismDad

    DEFINED. As in they can by their power, define what is or isn’t based on criteria of their choosing.

  • VikingRN

    In this large sample of privately insured children with older siblings, receipt of the MMR vaccine was not associated with increased risk of ASD, regardless of whether older siblings had ASD. These findings indicate no harmful association between MMR vaccine receipt and ASD even among children already at higher risk for ASD.

  • VikingRN

    The general consensus is that ASD has a genetic etiology, which alters brain development, affecting social and communication development and leading to restricted interests and repetitive behavior [36,75]. Supporting this is the “epigenetic theory”, in which an abnormal gene is turned “on” early in fetal development and affects the expression of other genes that are not mutated themselves [76,77].

    Genetic factors — There is increasing evidence for the role of genetic factors in the etiology of ASD [36,50,51]. Evidence for the strong genetic contribution to development of ASD is derived from the following observations [36]:

    ?Unequal sex distribution, with 4:1 male predominance (see ‘Prevalence’ above)
    ?Increased prevalence in siblings of patients with ASD compared with the general population (see ‘Rate in siblings’ above)
    ?High concordance rate among monozygotic twins (36 to 96 percent) [46,78-83]
    ?Increased risk of ASD with increasing relatedness; in a large population based study, the cumulative risk of ASD by age 20 years was approximately 3 percent for cousins, 7 percent for paternal half-siblings, 9 percent for maternal half-siblings, 13 percent for full siblings and dizygotic twins, and 59 percent for monozygotic twins [46]
    Given the complexity of ASD and the diversity of clinical manifestations, it is likely that interactions between multiple genes are responsible for ASD and that epigenetic factors and exposure to environmental modifiers contribute to the variable expression [36,83,84]. The wide phenotypic variability also suggests the existence of distinct genes and gene combinations among those who are affected [36,85]. Another possibility is that ASD are caused by variations in copy number (resulting from spontaneous deletion or duplication during gamete production) at multiple independent loci [86-90]. This hypothesis is supported by the observation that deletion or duplication at 15 q11.2 and 16p11.2 accounts for 2 to 3 percent of cases of ASD [91-94].

    The prevalence among siblings of patients with ASD is higher than the prevalence in the general population [36-39], but much lower than would be expected for single-gene diseases [36]. Although male predominance suggests X-linkage, male-to-male transmission in a number of families excludes X-linkage as the only mode of inheritance [36,95]. (See ‘Rate in siblings’ above and ‘Prevalence’ above.)

    Current research is focused on linkage studies in families to sort out the complex multigenic nature of ASD. Several ongoing studies are investigating the correlation of clinical phenotypes with specific genetic profiles.

    Thus far, linkage studies and genomic screens have identified several potential loci for ASD susceptibility on multiple chromosomes, including the X chromosome [36,71,93,96-106]. A duplication in the proximal long arm of chromosome 15 (15q11-q13) has been reported in approximately 1 to 2 percent of children with ASD, usually those with moderate to profound intellectual disability [51,91,92,94,107]. The duplication is usually maternally inherited, with one or two copies of the area roughly corresponding to the typical Angelman syndrome/Prader-Willi deletion region. A “chromosome 15 phenotype” has begun to emerge that is characterized by hypotonia, joint laxity, global (especially motor) developmental delays, seizures, speech delay, social deficits, stereotypies, and a variable pattern of mild facial dysmorphisms [108]. (See “Epidemiology and genetics of Prader-Willi syndrome”.)

    Children with ASD and macrocephaly are at increased risk for PTEN mutations. (See “PTEN hamartoma tumor syndrome, including Cowden syndrome”, section on ‘Autism spectrum disorders and macrocephaly’.)

    Other potential loci are close to known locations of a gene for tuberous sclerosis complex (chromosome 16p) or neurofibromatosis type 1 (chromosome 17) [93,109]. (See “Tuberous sclerosis complex: Genetics, clinical features, and diagnosis” and “Neurofibromatosis type 1 (NF1): Pathogenesis, clinical features, and diagnosis”.)

    It’s genetic………

  • VikingRN

    Abstracts for References 66, 69, 74 and 80

    66
    TI
    Thimerosal and autism?
    AU
    Nelson KB, Bauman ML
    SO
    Pediatrics. 2003;111(3):674.

    AD
    Neuroepidemiology Branch, National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke, Bethesda, MD 20892-1447, USA. knelson@helix.nih.gov
    PMID
    12612255
    69

    Stratton K, Gable A, McCormick MC. Immunization Safety Review: Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines and Neurodevelopmental Disorders, National Academy Press, Washington, DC 2001.

    no abstract available
    74

    Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism. A report of the Institute of Medicine., The National Academies Press, Washington, DC 2004.

    no abstract available
    80
    TI
    Thimerosal-containing vaccines and autistic spectrum disorder: a critical review of published original data.
    AU
    Parker SK, Schwartz B, Todd J, Pickering LK
    SO
    Pediatrics. 2004;114(3):793.

    OBJECTIVE: The issue of thimerosal-containing vaccines as a possible cause of autistic spectrum disorders (ASD) and neurodevelopmental disorders (NDDs) has been a controversial topic since 1999. Although most practitioners are familiar with the controversy, many are not familiar with the type or quality of evidence in published articles that have addressed this issue. To assess the quality of evidence assessing a potential association between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism and evaluate whether that evidence suggests accepting or rejecting the hypothesis, we systematically reviewed published articles that report original data pertinent to the potential association between thimerosal-containing vaccines and ASD/NDDs.
    METHODS: Articles for analysis were identified in the National Library of Medicine’s Medline database using a PubMed search of the English-language literature for articles published between 1966 and 2004, using keywords thimerosal, thiomersal, mercury, methylmercury, or ethylmercury alone and combined with keywords autistic disorder, autistic spectrum disorder, and neurodevelopment. In addition, we used the “related links” option in PubMed and reviewed the reference sections in the identified articles. All original articles that evaluated an association between thimerosal-containing vaccines and ASD/NDDs or pharmacokinetics of ethylmercury in vaccines were included.
    RESULTS: Twelve publications that met the selection criteria were identified by the literature search: 10 epidemiologic studies and 2 pharmacokinetic studies of ethylmercury. The design and quality of the studies showed significant variation. The preponderance of epidemiologic evidence does not support an association between thimerosal-containing vaccines and ASD. Epidemiologic studies that support an association are of poor quality and cannot be interpreted. Pharmacokinetic studies suggest that the half-life of ethylmercury is significantly shorter when compared with methylmercury.
    CONCLUSIONS: Studies do not demonstrate a link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and ASD, and the pharmacokinetics of ethylmercury make such an association less likely. Epidemiologic studies that support a link demonstrated significant design flaws that invalidate their conclusions. Evidence does not support a change in the standard of practice with regard to administration of thimerosal-containing vaccines in areas of the world where they are used.
    AD
    Department of Pediatrics, Children’s Hospital and University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, Denver, Colorado 80262, USA.
    PMID
    15342856

  • Mike Stevens

    Save your breath for someone who hasn’t swallowed the koolaid, Viking.
    AD is a lost cause.

  • AutismDad

    WRONG. 3% inherited. 97% NOT INHERITED

  • AutismDad

    OH YEAH!

  • AutismDad

    Here’s another aspect pro-vac Neanderthals always forget to mention, conflict of interest. http://yournewswire.com/independent-study-that-found-no-mmr-autism-link-not-so-independent

  • AutismDad

    Certifiable….explains your twisted logic

  • AutismDad

    You’re an RN

  • AutismDad

    Practice what you preach.

  • AutismDad

    And all those in prison are innocent.

  • AutismDad

    Where do these numbers come from? Oh yea vaccine proponents…nuff said.

  • AutismDad

    And who was protected from the withdrawl? MERCK, GSK etc?

  • AutismDad

    Propaganda 101

  • VikingRN

    He is a poster child for Internet trolldom.

    Sadly his entire self identity is that of poor me my child has a disability. He needs serious therapy.

  • VikingRN

    Increased risk of ASD with increasing relatedness; in a large population based study, the cumulative risk of ASD by age 20 years was approximately 3 percent for cousins, 7 percent for paternal half-siblings, 9 percent for maternal half-siblings, 13 percent for full siblings and dizygotic twins, and 59 percent for monozygotic twins [46]
    Given the complexity of ASD and the diversity of clinical manifestations, it is likely that interactions between multiple genes are responsible for ASD and that epigenetic factors and exposure to environmental modifiers contribute to the variable expression [36,83,84]. The wide phenotypic variability also suggests the existence of distinct genes and gene combinations among those who are affected [36,85]. Another possibility is that ASD are caused by variations in copy number (resulting from spontaneous deletion or duplication during gamete production) at multiple independent loci [86-90]. This hypothesis is supported by the observation that deletion or duplication at 15 q11.2 and 16p11.2 accounts for 2 to 3 percent of cases of ASD [91-94].

  • stringman

    So insightful. So….you troll when you’re drinking…or vice versa? Please, let us read some of you’re liquor logic. I’m sure we will all be entranced.

  • AutismDad

    Be sure to wipe afterwards

  • VikingRN

    Take up your complaint with up to date.

  • AutismDad

    Sometimes I get beer muscles too

  • AutismDad

    Which means as much as your other rants.

  • AutismDad

    Hardly . Do you put that heart in the freezer overnight?

  • Jack Sprat

    Please provide documentation to support your position.

  • VikingRN

    My comment to you…..

    http://youtu.be/Cd2_LKoTYKw

    I am genuinely concerned that you need therapy. You have an inability to take any perspective other than your own.

  • You’ve got the numbers backwards.

    Autism is 98% Genetic
    “Autism is almost entirely genetic in origin, new research has suggested, with between 74 and 98 per cent of cases down to biological make-up.”

  • The first mistake is treating Barbara Loe Fisher as if she’s telling you the truth.

    That has to be a joke, right?

    This isn’t a partisan issue. This is one area where 89% of Republicans and 88% of Democrats agree. Vaccines save lives. 77% of Americans think childhood vaccines should be mandatory. 72% believe that unvaccinated children should not be allowed in public school.

    No one is arguing that there won’t be a very small number of people who have adverse reactions to vaccines. What is being argued is that grifters like Barbara Loe Fisher, who has made a six-figure income for 20+ years scaremongering and flat-out lying about vaccine safety, should not be treated as credible sources. She’s a crackpot.

    Frankly, I’m shocked at how poorly this piece was researched.

  • Every single state in the Union already has mandatory school vaccinations. Nothing new there.

  • VikingRN

    Providing sourced evidence based reviews hardly qualifies as a rant.

  • johncocktoaston

    Sounds like bullshit because the rate of autism is increasing. Did we all suddenly become genetic defectives, or is the cause more likely environmental? The genetic model of disease is a deflection made by polluters and poisoners… I don’t know what causes Autism, and neither do the “experts”.

  • johncocktoaston

    And in nearly all of the states there is some form of religious or philosophical exemption. Every state has medical exemptions. We are not a medical dictatorship and the state does not own your person and no amount of Madison Avenue manipulation will change that.

  • AutismDad

    And what does that mean exactly, i know you don’t care because its the numbers ALONE that have you citing this. Oddly how I say 97% and this statement from who knows who says 98%. “GENETIC IN ORIGIN” isn’t saying inherited is it? Find a source that say 98% inherited. YOU WON”T. But nice job showing how easily you fall for the lies and twisted spin.

  • AutismDad

    Genertics IS NOT the common denominator in this world wide phenomenon. Not inherited that is. What gene studies show is between 80-97% are of UNKNOWN CAUSE, not inherited. So between birth and 2.5 – 3 years something causes these regressive types to experience hundreds of random/ spontaneous mutations. Guess what can cause spontaneous gene mutation. Aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde, viruses. GEE where can we find those in the life of a baby between 2.5 and 3 years? These chemicals are neurotoxic, genotoxic, mutogenic and endocrine disruptors. They are in SAFE vaccines.

  • AutismDad

    Get lost. Do your own research lazy.

  • AutismDad

    No but its coming. California will soon mandate Gardasil for ALL children and young adults. They now have the established power to do so. Even those who supported the bill will now be part of the VACCINE ROULETTE and will themselves be victimized as their children and grandchildren become victimized.

  • AutismDad

    Nice lie.

  • AutismDad

    Pathetic.

  • AutismDad

    Wrong. You are obsessed to the point of delusion and paranoia. You think all that rubbish you post effects what we think? We already know its tainted and twisted and represents attempts to cover up the real science we need and demand to see. We are not fools.

  • AutismDad

    That’s abuse Mike your specialty

  • You’re right. Every state does have medical exemptions, and I haven’t heard anyone suggest doing away with those.

    That said, the issue of mandatory school vaccinations was decided 110 years ago. It’s black letter law.

    Public health standards ? medical dictatorship.

  • johncocktoaston

    Yes, it is law, right along with religious and philosophical exemptions to those laws that currently exist in most states.

  • Jack Sprat

    What a delightfully friendly encounter AngryDad.
    However, your attitude aside, the genetic anomaly has been identified. Yes their are triggers, and environmental triggers are at the top of the suspects’ list.

  • Jack Sprat

    `Thanks for the flashback VikingRN. If she’s 68 than I’m; holy crap. Thanks.

  • AutismDad

    yea blah blah

  • Jack Sprat

    Have a lovely day.

    VikingRN; in order to reach your intended audience, it may be advantageous to explain matters of substance at the grade three level. In turn a child may explain it to AngryDad.

  • Jack Sprat

    VikingRN; in order to reach your intended audience, it may be advantageous to explain matters of substance at the grade three level. In turn a child may explain it to AngryDad.

  • AutismDad

    GOOF alert!

  • Russell

    Nëgro is not racist, you retards say everything is racist.

  • Yes, the false religion of sciencism is at play here.

  • AutismDadd

    Frankly you Troll every vaccine story to spread misinformation.

  • AutismDadd

    Jack Splat what name did you post as last week? And as all can see a closed profile as all shills have. Monkey see monkey do.

  • AutismDadd

    Lame. 97% harmed genetically, not born with the mutation or inherited. Nice try shill, your lying needs work.

  • Graceds

    Lol.

  • AutismDadd

    Let’s see you do it first.

  • AutismDadd

    babbling fool

  • pg

    Very likely paid poster.

  • ibid

    For what it’s worth, Barbara Loe Fisher does have the distinction of being one person a judge has actually ruled you can call a liar.

    Anti-vaxxer Barbara Loe Fisher Loses Defamation Lawsuit Against Critics
    http://www.dmlp.org/threats/fisher-v-offit